ROYAL ENFIELD HIMALAYAN 452 || POSITIVES & NEGATIVES || FIRST RIDE IMPRESSIONS
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- Royal Enfield Himalayan 452 Review - Positives & Negatives
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Chapters
0:00 Introduction
0:30 About Himalayan 411
2:25 New tires & Grip
3:00 Showa USD Forks
3:43 17 Lt Fuel tank
4:22 New Switchgear
5:08 Ergonomics
6:10 Engine Pros & Cons
7:02 Complaint #1
7:37 Complaint #2
8:08 Complaint #3
8:22 Complaint #4
8:05 Complaint #5
Positives:
* The engine is quite responsive and you do feel the 40 horses working, as the revs climb up.
* Crosses 120 kmph in absolutely no time and still has enough juice left
* Feels very stable both at crawling and highway speeds. Slightly experienced rider can escape keeping their feet on the ground even at crawling speeds.
* Ergonomics are extremely comfortable for short riders. The seat is big enough to keep taller riders happy too and offers a very natural riding posture.
* Suspension if fabulous and you can crush everything that the roads throw at you. Moreover, even with the huge range of travel, the suspension never feels wallow-ey
* Instrumentation is the best in business with it's new age design and useful features.
* At the launch price, the new Himalayan is superb value for money and perhaps one of the most well rounded package in the segment and a segment above.
Negatives:
* Engine heat is quite evident and you do feel it within a few minutes of riding the bike in regular traffic. In jam packed roads, the heat dissipated from the engine is a lot (almost like previous generations of KTM 390).
* Mild vibrations start creeping in from 4000 rpm onwards. However not bothersome, as long as you are wearing good boots and gloves.
* Not as beginner friendly off the road like the previous model of Himalayan. The rider has to be sufficiently skilled to be able to give some beans to the engine to have fun off-roading.
* Under hard braking the front forks compresses a lot. While using brakes during a turn, it can get a bit scary.
* Not the most beginner friendly.
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Thanks mate from Western Australia. This is the best balanced and pragmatic review I've seen.
I am so glad that you liked the video. Thanks a lot for the encouraging words. 🙏🏼
Happy motoring
Excellent review! I like the way you pointed out the minor lixe and dislixe especially the front frame attachment that will definitely fill up with water here in the UK.
Another honest review, plenty of positive remarks and made my decision to order a Hanle Black, tubeless for march 2024 the correct one.
Seems like quite a lot of machine for a mid-size mixed use motorcycle and looking forward to getting mine on the road.
Next task will be compiling an accessory list, engine/sump guards, riding lights and the rear pannier topbox combination!
Awesome decision. I too am waiting the for cross spoke tubeless version to be launched. I will pick it up the day I get any news about it's launch.
Which colour did you select? I am going for the Hanle Black but will add the lower engine bars with the larger sump guard, plus radiator guard, which I will get powder coated black as I think it will tidy up the whole area. Not sure the silver area looks as good on the black bikes, maybe silver is ok on the other colours? Looks like plenty of sales coming toward Royal Enfield next year.@@FTRClub
I too am looking at the black one itself. In fact during my discussion with a few other showroom owners, most bookings made are for Hanley black itself. I do like the Rally color scheme too.
Lovely Review.. you have explained all the important things on the bike..
Thanks a lot bhai. I could have covered a few things related to off-roading, but I was running out of time
Thanks for the honest look at the Himalayan
I am really glad you liked it sir 🙏🏼
So glad you made this video. I rode the Himalayan recently. I was taken back by the motorcycle. I felt engine performance bit rough and hard downshifts in all gears. NOSEDIVE was killing me because my riding style is a bit fast. TOPHEAVY weight of the motorcycle will not let me have fun it. So I withdrew my booking and booked KTM adventure 390 X.
Yeah the front dives in quite a bit and can scare riders who aren’t used to riding such bikes. 390X is very balanced choice and I don’t think anyone needs more power than what the 390 motor makes.
Good choice buddy. Nose dives existed even on 411. With the new one having bigger tank top heavy character, I can only imagine. A person who is used to agility will never buy a Himalayan
Great review. I was a fan of the 411, but this 452 far outshines its old sibling. South Carolina US
Honest, crisp! Thanks for that and speaking about its -ves as well.
Always! :-) I am really glad that you found the video helpful.
Sounds very nice, but I don't think I would want to lose the low end torque on my 411 long stroke. I ride dirt roads all the time and very little highway and I think I would regret losing the unique relaxed tractor torque of the original Himmy.
Great point. Off-road, technical trails etc is where you'll really miss the bottom end torque because that's when the bike's engine is usually below 4000 rpm or so tackling terrain. If you ride such roads frequently, you will definitely miss the grunt of the Himalayan 411.
Exactly my Himmy produces 30 h.p. and 30 torque with a cam ,Freeflow air filter and exhaust.I am converting to Carb which will give me tuning control. If I then put in a 462 overbore kit I will get 35 h.p. and a bit over 35 ft lbs. of torque.No stupid unnecessary riding modes ,ride by wire,EFI ,deleted bottom frame rails ,aluminum bore ,water pump,radiator,upside down forks that drain out when leaky to go wrong . I do not get 6 gears a bigger tank or more clearance .All unnecessary.
@deltabluesdavidraye That’s individual’s choice I’d say. I too don’t think ride by wire & ride modes were necessary. However, since competitors are giving the same features (BMW G310 GS, KTM 390 Adv etc), Royal Enfield too decided to play along.
I still fail to understand the need of too much electronics in Adventure motorcycles. It just makes the bike more vulnerable.
@@FTRClub From my perspective the electronic gadgets are just more things to break. I can see the logic behind a map on the speedometer for those who want to explore the highways, and the electronics is fine for street use, but my bikes are always covered with dirt and mud. The switches are a problem. My headlight stopped functioning on one of my bikes the other day and I had to disassemble the switch and clean it. Simplicity has its benefits. With that said, I'm not criticizing the new 450 in any way, if I were in the market for a new bike, I would not hesitate to buy it. But like you pointed out, upgrades on the 411, like the seat, and engine can come close to the new bike, while maintaining the grunt of the long stroke. I installed the Fuelx pro, and plan on doing the upgrades that you mentioned above. If you do the upgrades correctly you can get close to 40 horsepower. One guy from the US had his bike dyno at 40hp. I know he replaced the cam, piston and such, and the air filter along with the exhaust, he also changed out the stock CPU for the Powertronics. Afterwards he changed out his front sprocket to give him better highway performance. The first thing I want to change out is the cam, and the reason is simple, my bike constantly stalls at idle, and I am thinking that it might be the auto decompressor going bad. I have tried everything else and nothing seems to fix the problem.
that missing bottom end is what makes acceleration fun in the jseries😊
Well, the J-Series does have some decent low end grunt even below 3000 rpm.
@@FTRClub and hunter’s tuning makes it quicker revving than the rest 2
Good one👍🏻
Thank you so much 😁🙏🏼
With DOHC, it may be possible to add some lobe separation, and move the power down some in the rpm range.
Negatives.Deletion of frame rails givi 1:45 ng less engine case protection. Unneccesary ride by wire and riding modes.And biggest problem a Aluminum cylinder bore .No steel sleeve.Nickasil or not that is not good.
Hello!
Can you please tell whether Spark Plugs are easily accessible like previous Himalayan...!!??
Yes it is.
The lack of low end, and the vibrations at speed are deal breakers for me. Thanks!
I agree with you. I wish the motor made a bit more torque at lower revvs.
Re Himalayan 411 will be missed.😢
Hello FTR Club, can you please do comparison of Scrambler 400X vs Himalayan 452. Because you are one of few of people who are very passionate about biking/riding and provide un biased reviews. Thanks
First of all, thanks a lot for watching the video and for you kind words.
Let me check if the Triumph dealership nearby agrees to give me the Scrambler 400X. They are very reluctant to give the bike for anything more than 5minutes and that’s very less to know about a bike and speak anything good or bad about it.
Both RE and Triumph dealerships are hardly 2kms apart, if I get the Triumph it would be very easy to compile the video
India's best selling motorcycle 2024 might be another 350 ^^
Complaint #2 is not a con because it is an adventure bike and for off road or very bad road you need really a long travel suspension otherwise the shocks will directly come to your wrist.
Great video brother. If i may ask, are the wheels steel rims or aluminium?
Aluminium
Steel
Those are steel rims buddy.
@@FTRClub yeah sorry..i dont know why i said aluminium 😅
@@FTRClub i take it back...these are aluminium rims...not steel rims..spokesnare stainless steel
👽🤖
Please make a comparision video with the ADV 390 series!
Yeah that’s on top of my list. The KTM Adventure-X and Himalayan are closely priced and it’s worth comparing. I will try to shoot the video in a day or two, as soon as I get hold of the KTMs.
Hi Sir.. I have booked 452 last week. My purpose will be purely long touring and not much Off-roading. Do you suggest me to reconsider or any other Motorcycle u suggest for long touring
For touring this is going to be a fabulous bike. If your focus was more on off-roading then perhaps I’d have suggested an Xpulse. But for touring and daily commutes, the Himalayan 452 is just perfect. It’s comfortable for both rider and pillion, it has enough space for luggage too, the engine is pretty powerful. Above all, Royal Enfield has service centres in every corner of the country, hence getting things fixed during a tour won’t be any problem either.
Except we have to pay nearly 700000 rupees. Plus I have to say if you think them welds are tidy you need to get your eyes checked out. Good value bike still though you can not expect champagne for lemonade money.
I have owned 3 Royal Enfield motorcycles in the past and believe me the quality of welds on this Himalayan is far superior than Royal Enfield’s previous models.
I know it’s not best in the business, Triumph Speed 400 & Scrambler 400X have far superior welds, but let’s appreciate the improvements that Royal Enfield is making.
Thank you for the wonderful video.
Would like to understand more about "Its not beginner friendly motorcycle."
Do you mean to say this should not be someone's first motorcycle?
I am 5'7.Would it be difficult handling
the 450 considering my height?
I have an avenger 220 cruise which i have been riding for pretty much 8 years now.I might either go for the Classic 350 or the Himalyan 450.
My concern is that according to a lot of reviewers the Himalyan lacks low end torque which will be available in the Classic 350.Plus its a fairly heavy and comparatively motorcycle.Yet to test ride the Himalyan.
The power and torque delivery is far more superior than the Classic 350. Also, even though the Himalayan is marginal heavier than the Classic, it feel very light to manoeuvre.
When you go for test ride, try this:
1. Park both bikes side by side.
2. Pick the classic and pull it backwards as if you are taking it out of a parking lot.
3. Do the same with the Himalayan.
You’ll immediately realise how light the Himalayan feels. Moreover the higher weight of the Himalayan according to the spec sheet is the kerb weight, which means it’s with 90% fuel and all the other fluids like coolant, engine oil etc. With 17lt fuel tank & 90% of it being filled to calculate, the number seems higher.
It’s definitely not a learner bike. If you happen to buy one, I’d suggest attend some off-road training session (usually a 2 day program) to be able to gain confidence and enjoy more.
About the rider height be seat height, at 5’8” I didn’t see any problem. However, keep in mind that I ride an Xpulse Rally day in and day out, which is significantly taller and I have some good experience on handling bikes with tall seat height. I don’t think at your height, you will have any problem managing the bike.
I like how you give a detailed response. Kudos to you.
is it stall a 5 gear, or did it improve to a 6 gear like most bikes?
This now comes with 6 gears. 😊
Tested both took scrambler
I am waiting for Xpuse 440 with a modern air cooled long stroke engine.
So am I. Hopefully Mar-Apr 2024 we should be able to get our hands on one, according to what I understood based on my discussion with the top executives of HeroMotoCorp.
On rodeo rate
Is there a response lag from the engine on low rpm throttle application?
There’s no lag and the throttle calibration is spot on, just that under 4000 rpm the response is sluggish due to the unavailability of the torque.
@@FTRClub Thanks for the reply.
@@FTRClubdid the torque curve not show 30NM at 2.5 K RPM? Still sluggish?
Do you have any idea how much will it be on road price in Bangalore ?
The base version is almost 3.7 including extended warranty and RSA etc. I guess it could be brought down to 3.5 or so if we don’t take the extras.
@@FTRClubwtf 🥲🥲 almost a lakh
@@SachinKumar-cc1eu70k on road tax 😂😂😂😂
Welcome to the Bangalore life. We pay what we earn from our blood and sweat, so that the govt can distribute freebies 😂😂😂😂
@@FTRClub Thank you.. Did you mention in your vdo about when will the bikes be delivered ?
For people who'd choose Triumph Scrambler over Himalayan : Form over Factor. This one looks ugly and Triumph looks great, there is also the reliability and legacy, and although so does RE but they messed up real bad with their first iteration of Himalayan, it'll take some time for those troubled and tortured souls to take a liking to the Himalayan again. Hope it grows on them.
the old Himalayan even with its small niggles is a legend , scrambler 400 is just a bajaj in triumph guise with better quality than bajaj bikes, but i agree this new one is now a new benchmark😊
50% or ore who bought Himalayan because of its look. Look matters... There can be a surge in the initial days after the launch of this one.. But mark my word. The sales are going to decline..
There are good options with look and performance and reliability..
RE already proved its reliability issue..
By a 2022 himalayan owner
@@lostworld5667 i think xpulse 440 will be good too given in lower segwmnt xpulse is very good so if we plonk that 440 cc into the new xpulse it can be a very good option
and yes ppl have no option but scram411 for now if they want to taste old himalayan
I think bike looks better than previous
beautiful bike!!! Do you think it is beginner friendly? Thanx 👍
Not really, if you want to learn off-roading or riding technical trails coz the engine demands the rider to carry some momentum. If it's only long distance touring that you are planning, then this bike is going to be amazing.
I hope this helps.
@@FTRClub Thank you, I live in Serbia 🇷🇸 in a village but not do not like so much off roading, need more for commuting and touring, so looking forward to see it and decide...I've tried the cb500x, similar bike and was excellent, just I like more the look of the RE 450 ✌️
@@svaralen CB500X is an excellent all rounder (more of a perfect touring motorcycle). Looks is a personal thing. However if I were targeting only commuting and touring and getting the CB 500X and the Himalayan 450 at a similar price, I'd definitely pick the Honda. The engine is so smooth and that motorcycle screams fabulous quality.
The Himalayan looks rugged while the Honda feels sophisticated.
Why nobody never make a video about bikes with a pillion (passenger), nobody says the maximum load weight of the bike!? Do you maybe know the load weight of this RE 450? Thanx ✌️
Cold storage percussion unit
Darn you got that so right 😱👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Some one had dropped bike on both sides...hence all the complaints you are quoting.
Dropping an adventure bike is inevitable. My point is that these weak links should have designed better.
Who is getting on the back of a Himalayan with a Sari on. Even on the 411 first thing I did was remove that.
first of all its Not Himalayan 452 , its just All new Himalayan
You didn’t even see the first 60 seconds after the cinematic shots, before posting your comment, did you?
@@FTRClub 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 wow
Those welds are not anywhere near "neatly done"
RE use same robots as all the other big manufacturers .How well the weld is ground and finished is a difference But Himalayan 450 is finished much better than the Yezdi Triumph 400😂
Well, if you look at Royal Enfield’s existing products, they’ve come quite far from where they were.
I went to book the hymalayan 450 on the showroom.. handle black.. now the RE offer price of exshoowroom is 2.84 laks. I asked the showroom guy how much i will get bike and when i will get? Like that . They told 3 months it will take and the bike if i book now also .if bike price increases after 31 st then they will give on the new price. Not on offer price... Such a big scamming by Royal Enfield... Can talk and check about this .....
This is quite common for all RE models brother. Sadly, there’s a no escaping. What you can probably do is book your bike online via Make Your Own website and that will guarantee faster delivery of the bike.
@@FTRClub if I receive bike after Jan then the bike price Jan price I have to pay????
@@FTRClub they RE scamming by showing 2.84 laks. As a price
GET ND FILETERS 🙈
I agree with you brother. This however was shot and edited (as always) on mobile, hence I didn’t have much room to play around with the colour and exposure. But as you rightly said, ND filters is something I must invest in now. 🙏🏼
I don't tthink anyone with a saree will sit pillion on this bike.
Hehehe.. That's true. 99.99% people will remove the saari guard on day-1 itself.
The reason I highlighted it was that Royal Enfield should have designed it a bit smaller to provide lesser flex. Even an XPulse has a sturdier saari guard which never bends regardless of how many ever times the bike falls on the left side.
Nothing is perfect
Kitna tel fukti hay??
Maan k chalo 1 lt main 28-30km chalegi, agar 100 k neeche chalate hai to.