I'm just getting into videography and just purchased an S5 (a decision informed by your videos) as well as this XLR interface and I have found the sound to be fantastic (I need good sound because my background is audio). Josh, I have found all of your recent videos since I've subscribed to be highly relevant to what I'm doing and the surrounding accessories I need to purchase so I just wanted to say thank you, you're doing a great job and you're helping me a lot in getting myself set up. Keep it up! 🙂
Hi Jesse! Thank you so much for the kind words and for supporting the channel! Really glad I could be of help to you and your recent purchase choices (congrats on getting the S5 btw, you're gonna love it!). If there's any topics you'd like me to cover in the future then just let me know and i'd love to!
I needed this video 3 weeks ago before I shot a singer's masterclass running my boom mic straight into my S1's 3.5mm jack and a pair of lavs into my S5ii's 3.5mm jack. I hadn't realized how much interference I was getting from my boom set up (Deity D3 Pro into a long 3.5mm extension cable) and my inexpensive Rode Go mics. Hissssss. This trained musician's ears tore my product apart and caused two weeks of extra audio work in post to recover. I didn't know what I didn't know. So I'm at least upgrading to an XLR workflow with the DMW_XLR1 and a cardioid XLR mic (maybe the affortable Rode NT5) and I'll figure out the lav side of the equation later. I usually shoot doc work so "natural" sounding audio has been ok, but I need to step up my game. Having XLR quality but still going straing into camera feels right for my one-man-band work.
XLR1 audio quality is superior. Maybe not as high as Sound Devices, but so very convenient. Just pray nobody trips over the XLR cable and rips the device right off the hot shoe. The Smallrig GH5 cage has a "Helmet" option available to protect the XLR1. Sadly not available for the S5 cage.
Definitely a convenience factor with the adapter but I actually thought the Tascam sounded a bit better in tone. I use a Sound devices MixPre 3-II for recording audio and it’s a pretty small recorder for what it is. There are a lot of convenient features with it as well lie auto mixing and having App Store support for recording 3D sound, automatically removing noise, or recording/mixing music directly on the unit that makes it a better value than proprietary adapters. I think if the cost of these adapters were lower then I’d more readily buy into them but I’d need one for my Panasonic cameras and something different for other cameras. Nice video though and I enjoyed it.
I think the Tascam does have a nicer preamp, but for convenience, I do say that the XLR1 wins. Of course, it's designed to be a quick and easy method for recording good quality XLR audio, whereas the Tascam is a little more dedicated, so I guess that's to be expected. However, I was expecting the difference between the two to be bigger than it is, so for that reason I'm quite impressed!
@@JoshCameron no that makes sense and with good mics and doing your part on the sound level checking then I do believe most options can provide acceptable results. There are a lot of great affordable sound options these days. I’m not suggesting people need to spend $600 on a Sound Devices mixer (or even $400 on a Panasonic one). I think Zoom and Tascam make affordable options in the $200 range but sound is an underrated part of production for most. People will listen to lower quality video with excellent sound but crappy sound in 8K with the greatest b-roll is still gonna be a hard pass.
Yeah completely agree with you. Sound is the most important part of a production, especially when there's a lot of talking/narrative. I learnt this lesson the hard way but now I can happily say that I have invested in the right equipment for me to get the sound I need :)
I have used both and the XLR1 is better. Also my Tascam (sold) crashed more than once. My mics are Sennheiser MKH50 and MKH416. If you need ambient noise reduction I highly recommend Izotope RX.
if you use premiere you just highlight the two clips in your timeline, right click and select synchronize from the menu. takes about 3 seconds and is hardly an inconvenience.
Hey Josh! I'd love your advice regarding using the XLR-1 with my XLR Boom mic (Deity S-Mic 2) with a Rode Wireless Go II lav. I do need to record two people with the Rode lavs, but I'm okay with getting a mono track if that's the max I can get with this setup. Is there a way to record BOTH the XLR inputs and the 3.5 mm mic inputs simultaneously while recording? And would a XLR-3.5 adapter work with the Rode on the DMW-XLR1?
Awesome video!! I have a question. I noticed when using xlr1 you cant set up bit rate unlike gh5. So S5 is recording in 16 bit or 24 bit? I'm a bit disappointed can't set up bit rate. Thanks
Cool unit thanks for sharing!! Does it have a slight latency? Is the audio perfectly in sync? Some people said there's a up to 4 frame drift, have you noticed that?
Hey Josh, quick question: is it possible to mount the DMW-XLR1 on the S5 when the nitze cage and top handle are in position. It would be great if the DMW-XLR1 could fit just inside the gap on the underside of the nitze top handle, instead of having to remove the top handle whenever I use the DMW-XLR1, as my monitor is attached to my nitze handle. Any thoughts? Great content btw;)
Video files out of camera have stereo audio so there are always two tracks. With this unit, you can either merge both XLR inputs to centre (equally in left and right tracks) or record the individual tracks to the left/right channel. ☺️
Are you listening with studio headphones? I've been recording/editing audio for 20+ year, and thru my studio headphones (the gray cups seen in all podcasts now) the Tascam has less low end clarity and high end presence, resulting in a more mid-range or "nasal tone". The DWM sounds clearer, more balanced , and seems to capture the full spectrum of frequencies, which means you can EQ it any way you wish. This is akin to shooting raw or Vlog, which looks overblown until your LUT or color grading is applied, and then the results compared to other methods is significant. Tascam has been around for a half century, many great products, but this DR60 seems a bit cheap. (perhaps there are EQ settings in the menu that could make it sound better?)
Still recommend this? I also have the same tascam unit you use. Is this still part of your audio kit or have you decided to stick with the tascam? When shooting client interview work, what do you do with the tascam? Do you mount it under your camera, a stand, leave it on the floor? I also use the rode wireless go 2 mics for redundancy, what’s the best way to use them with this audio adapter and a shotgun mic at once? Thanks!
Hey which would be better to record an indoor interview, Rode lave mic going into a zoom h1 handy , or the Panasonic DMW-XLR1 hooked up to a rode boom mic. im just concerned about picking up the room noise vs getting the voice directly into the mic using a lav
Shotgun mics will always give you better sound rejection since they're directional and will pick up the majority of the sound from whatever you point it towards. As long as the room you're in isn't too loud in terms of its ambient noise, then I'd go for an XLR Shotgun mic over a lav any day of the week :)
Rode sell an adaptor VXLR+ to convert the lav mic into an XLR mic so you can run that into the XLR1 device. I have used both a boom mic and a lav mic on interviews and in certain situations the lav can pick up less room noise. The key is to get the lav up high on the collar. Closer is always better.
Thanks Josh. I use the Rode Wireless Go II with my S5 bodies. I have found the Rode mic doesn't work well with the ZOOM H6. For some reason with the H6 I get a good amount of hiss when using the Rode. Have you tried the DMW-XLR1 with the Rode Wireless Go II or other wireless mics?
Great video and you’ve got me thinking now - I sometimes record my audio with Rode wireless go mics, is there a way this DMW XLR attachment could enhance something coming in from those ?
You'd need to adapt the connecting cable somehow, or find a cable that goes from 3.5mmm to male XLR in order to connect the receiver to the XLR1. I'm not too sure how stable that set up would be though and you may still get some interference due the inferior shielding on a 3.5mm connection. Defo worth trying though!
@@JoshCameron the interference (if any) would come from the frequency being crowded in a wireless mic system more than a 3.5mm connection unless someone used a pretty long cable (like longer than 10ft or 3m for those used to the metric system). XLR is more important for long cable runs due to the connection being balanced… but the cable construction quality will matter in both instances. One could adapt a 3.5mm cable to an XLR adapter out of convenience but I doubt it would enhance quality. It actually might decrease it by lengthening the signal noise due to a longer pathway. It’s probably easier to just connect the 3.5mm device directly into the camera or external device. Many have sync delay functions as well. I typically have my camera run the HDMI to my Ninja V but I run my Sound Devices MixPre 3-II directly onto the camera with all sources going into the mixer. I can monitor and have everything synced from the Ninja V while recording as well.
I'm not sure actually, you'd need an adapted cable with a male XLR in order to connect it to the DMW-XLR1. I'm not sure how stable that cable would be though.... definitely something worth trying out!
Hi Josh - when I monitor the audio using this device, I only hear audio from one side. Is there a way of listening to it in both ears? Kind of like a dual-mono situation?
Hey Josh - did you set the audio to 96KHZ and 24bit inside the camera for the DMW? I've not had a chance yet to try a side by side on the different settings (I think the default is 16bit 48khz), but this may up the quality to more like the Tascam.
Josh, a question not related to this video per say... did you get the kit lens with the S5? And is the lens barrel that slides in and out with change of zoom.. is it loose to flopping up and down and side to side a little or is it completely snug?
Hey Josh, I tried shooting a video using the RODE NTG2 and DMW-XLR1 earlier and the sound was unusable, I had a similar experience running phantom into the mic I use for podcasts. Can't tell at this point if I have a faulty unit or simply a dodgy XLR. :( if you have any tips they would much appricitated. Great vid :)
Have you enabled the "XLR Mic adapter" setting in camera? If you haven't and this is switched off, then you'll get a lot of hiss and a horrid noise floor. Also, make sure you record your audio at around -16db/-12db so that you have headroom to play with in post! Hope this helps mate, and if not then feel free to get in touch again and i'll try my best to help!
Hey Josh! I’m considering the DMW-XLR1 on my S5IIX, so I can have an XLR shotgun mic on camera and the 3,5mm audio jack for, let’s say, a wireless solution like the Rode Wireless Pro or sth. similar. However, I’m not completely sure how I would rig that thing up while also attaching a top-handle…have you run into that issue and solved it somehow? Thanks!
I'm running into this issue. The Smallrig 3082 top handle allows for height adjustment to accommodate hot shoe XLR units. You'll likely need to use one of their cages though. I'm going to play around with some other options and see what else I can figure out.
@@ywmedia that’s exactly what i got in the end. works great. however, it would have been cool if the handle could be attached via nato rail and not two screws…but that’s my only con.
@@lorenz_paulus Glad to hear it's working out! I assume that you need the "regular" S5II/x Smallrig cage (i.e. not the Black Mamba)? If there's enough clearance you may be able to attach a nato rail to the cage and a nato clamp to the bottom of the handle.
@@ywmediai’ve the "regular" smallrig cage (4022) for the s5iix; however, i think that said top-handle (3082) can be installed on the "black mamba" version (4024) as well (judged by the holes on top). thanks for the suggestion! the cool thing about the regular smallrig cage is that it already is formed like a nato rail on the upper edge, so you don’t need to mount a nato rail there!
@mipmipmipmipmip I put a cheese plate on top of my Tilta cage and did end up working. It's not super sleek/elegant though. If I find a more low profile cheese plate, it might work out a little better. The main thing is the Smallrig Top Handle is thinner/higher at the connection point, while other top handles sit too low or are too thick.
I'm just getting into videography and just purchased an S5 (a decision informed by your videos) as well as this XLR interface and I have found the sound to be fantastic (I need good sound because my background is audio). Josh, I have found all of your recent videos since I've subscribed to be highly relevant to what I'm doing and the surrounding accessories I need to purchase so I just wanted to say thank you, you're doing a great job and you're helping me a lot in getting myself set up. Keep it up! 🙂
Hi Jesse! Thank you so much for the kind words and for supporting the channel! Really glad I could be of help to you and your recent purchase choices (congrats on getting the S5 btw, you're gonna love it!).
If there's any topics you'd like me to cover in the future then just let me know and i'd love to!
@mipmipmipmipmip it depends what you want to record!
I needed this video 3 weeks ago before I shot a singer's masterclass running my boom mic straight into my S1's 3.5mm jack and a pair of lavs into my S5ii's 3.5mm jack. I hadn't realized how much interference I was getting from my boom set up (Deity D3 Pro into a long 3.5mm extension cable) and my inexpensive Rode Go mics. Hissssss. This trained musician's ears tore my product apart and caused two weeks of extra audio work in post to recover. I didn't know what I didn't know. So I'm at least upgrading to an XLR workflow with the DMW_XLR1 and a cardioid XLR mic (maybe the affortable Rode NT5) and I'll figure out the lav side of the equation later. I usually shoot doc work so "natural" sounding audio has been ok, but I need to step up my game. Having XLR quality but still going straing into camera feels right for my one-man-band work.
XLR1 audio quality is superior. Maybe not as high as Sound Devices, but so very convenient.
Just pray nobody trips over the XLR cable and rips the device right off the hot shoe. The Smallrig GH5 cage has a "Helmet" option available to protect the XLR1. Sadly not available for the S5 cage.
The ease of use of the XLR1 does make it a winner for me as well - a great little device for capturing clean audio without too much hassle!
@ed Jefferson small rig makes an adjustable top handle. Check it out
@@guidedvisionsmedia What does that have to do with my comment?
@@edjefferson9175they make something similar for the S5 cage brother. If you own an s5 the XLR1 can still be rigged up to a cage setup
Great intro to the XLR1...have a shoot next week and wanted to simplify my kit and editing and you explained it perfectly
It's a nice little XLR setup and works great - good luck with the shoot!
One of the best investment I've made for my interview kit🤙🏽.
Awesome man, great little system right? :D
Definitely a convenience factor with the adapter but I actually thought the Tascam sounded a bit better in tone. I use a Sound devices MixPre 3-II for recording audio and it’s a pretty small recorder for what it is. There are a lot of convenient features with it as well lie auto mixing and having App Store support for recording 3D sound, automatically removing noise, or recording/mixing music directly on the unit that makes it a better value than proprietary adapters. I think if the cost of these adapters were lower then I’d more readily buy into them but I’d need one for my Panasonic cameras and something different for other cameras. Nice video though and I enjoyed it.
I think the Tascam does have a nicer preamp, but for convenience, I do say that the XLR1 wins. Of course, it's designed to be a quick and easy method for recording good quality XLR audio, whereas the Tascam is a little more dedicated, so I guess that's to be expected. However, I was expecting the difference between the two to be bigger than it is, so for that reason I'm quite impressed!
@@JoshCameron no that makes sense and with good mics and doing your part on the sound level checking then I do believe most options can provide acceptable results. There are a lot of great affordable sound options these days. I’m not suggesting people need to spend $600 on a Sound Devices mixer (or even $400 on a Panasonic one). I think Zoom and Tascam make affordable options in the $200 range but sound is an underrated part of production for most. People will listen to lower quality video with excellent sound but crappy sound in 8K with the greatest b-roll is still gonna be a hard pass.
Yeah completely agree with you. Sound is the most important part of a production, especially when there's a lot of talking/narrative. I learnt this lesson the hard way but now I can happily say that I have invested in the right equipment for me to get the sound I need :)
I have used both and the XLR1 is better. Also my Tascam (sold) crashed more than once. My mics are Sennheiser MKH50 and MKH416. If you need ambient noise reduction I highly recommend Izotope RX.
Thanks for this Josh! I've been looking into changing my external audio from my H4N and this video has really helped!
if you use premiere you just highlight the two clips in your timeline, right click and select synchronize from the menu. takes about 3 seconds and is hardly an inconvenience.
You can do that in FCPX too, I just never do it that way :P
Thank you! I'm about to start a new project with tons of external audio, and I've always synced manually. This will save me heaps of time.
Hey Josh! I'd love your advice regarding using the XLR-1 with my XLR Boom mic (Deity S-Mic 2) with a Rode Wireless Go II lav. I do need to record two people with the Rode lavs, but I'm okay with getting a mono track if that's the max I can get with this setup. Is there a way to record BOTH the XLR inputs and the 3.5 mm mic inputs simultaneously while recording? And would a XLR-3.5 adapter work with the Rode on the DMW-XLR1?
Nice review Josh.
Cheers Nick!
I have two of these for my GH5 & GH5s.
Awesome! Defo worth it!
Would this work with Leica SL2-S? They don't have any xlr adapter but they are closest to the Panasonic body and technology etc.
Awesome video!! I have a question. I noticed when using xlr1 you cant set up bit rate unlike gh5. So S5 is recording in 16 bit or 24 bit? I'm a bit disappointed can't set up bit rate. Thanks
Cool unit thanks for sharing!! Does it have a slight latency? Is the audio perfectly in sync? Some people said there's a up to 4 frame drift, have you noticed that?
Hey Josh, quick question: is it possible to mount the DMW-XLR1 on the S5 when the nitze cage and top handle are in position. It would be great if the DMW-XLR1 could fit just inside the gap on the underside of the nitze top handle, instead of having to remove the top handle whenever I use the DMW-XLR1, as my monitor is attached to my nitze handle. Any thoughts? Great content btw;)
hello, if you use the two xlr entries does the file have separate tracks? Thank you and congratulations for the work!
I'm not 100% sure on this since i've not used it in this fashion yet. I can double check for you though and let you know :)
@@JoshCameron thanks!
Video files out of camera have stereo audio so there are always two tracks. With this unit, you can either merge both XLR inputs to centre (equally in left and right tracks) or record the individual tracks to the left/right channel. ☺️
I'm hearing less nasal vocal sounds from the Tascam compared to the DMW-XLR1. So I prefer hearing the Tascam.
Are you listening with studio headphones? I've been recording/editing audio for 20+ year, and thru my studio headphones (the gray cups seen in all podcasts now) the Tascam has less low end clarity and high end presence, resulting in a more mid-range or "nasal tone". The DWM sounds clearer, more balanced , and seems to capture the full spectrum of frequencies, which means you can EQ it any way you wish. This is akin to shooting raw or Vlog, which looks overblown until your LUT or color grading is applied, and then the results compared to other methods is significant.
Tascam has been around for a half century, many great products, but this DR60 seems a bit cheap. (perhaps there are EQ settings in the menu that could make it sound better?)
Still recommend this? I also have the same tascam unit you use. Is this still part of your audio kit or have you decided to stick with the tascam? When shooting client interview work, what do you do with the tascam? Do you mount it under your camera, a stand, leave it on the floor? I also use the rode wireless go 2 mics for redundancy, what’s the best way to use them with this audio adapter and a shotgun mic at once? Thanks!
Hey which would be better to record an indoor interview, Rode lave mic going into a zoom h1 handy , or the Panasonic DMW-XLR1 hooked up to a rode boom mic. im just concerned about picking up the room noise vs getting the voice directly into the mic using a lav
Shotgun mics will always give you better sound rejection since they're directional and will pick up the majority of the sound from whatever you point it towards.
As long as the room you're in isn't too loud in terms of its ambient noise, then I'd go for an XLR Shotgun mic over a lav any day of the week :)
@@JoshCameron Thanks for the reply will take that advice
Rode sell an adaptor VXLR+ to convert the lav mic into an XLR mic so you can run that into the XLR1 device.
I have used both a boom mic and a lav mic on interviews and in certain situations the lav can pick up less room noise. The key is to get the lav up high on the collar. Closer is always better.
Does the DMW-XLR1 work with the S5 mark II?
Thanks Josh.
I use the Rode Wireless Go II with my S5 bodies. I have found the Rode mic doesn't work well with the ZOOM H6. For some reason with the H6 I get a good amount of hiss when using the Rode.
Have you tried the DMW-XLR1 with the Rode Wireless Go II or other wireless mics?
Hi, is it possible to put this in another place with cable? On the rig with handle, how can I put this? Thanks!!!
I'm not too sure actually... Since the adpater needs that hotshoe connection, it may be a little trickier...
Wich program do you use for editing the video? Thanks for your video
Great video and you’ve got me thinking now - I sometimes record my audio with Rode wireless go mics, is there a way this DMW XLR attachment could enhance something coming in from those ?
You'd need to adapt the connecting cable somehow, or find a cable that goes from 3.5mmm to male XLR in order to connect the receiver to the XLR1. I'm not too sure how stable that set up would be though and you may still get some interference due the inferior shielding on a 3.5mm connection. Defo worth trying though!
@@JoshCameron the interference (if any) would come from the frequency being crowded in a wireless mic system more than a 3.5mm connection unless someone used a pretty long cable (like longer than 10ft or 3m for those used to the metric system). XLR is more important for long cable runs due to the connection being balanced… but the cable construction quality will matter in both instances. One could adapt a 3.5mm cable to an XLR adapter out of convenience but I doubt it would enhance quality. It actually might decrease it by lengthening the signal noise due to a longer pathway. It’s probably easier to just connect the 3.5mm device directly into the camera or external device. Many have sync delay functions as well. I typically have my camera run the HDMI to my Ninja V but I run my Sound Devices MixPre 3-II directly onto the camera with all sources going into the mixer. I can monitor and have everything synced from the Ninja V while recording as well.
could you compare the s1 audio quality with the xlr adapter and without, using probably an internal battery mic?
I would love to but both have been sent back to Panasonic now.. in the future I can try and grab a copy of each again for this :)
How does this compare to the zoom f3 option ?
Can you improve audio quality using that with Rode wireless GO II connected true XLR?
I'm not sure actually, you'd need an adapted cable with a male XLR in order to connect it to the DMW-XLR1. I'm not sure how stable that cable would be though.... definitely something worth trying out!
Hi Josh - when I monitor the audio using this device, I only hear audio from one side. Is there a way of listening to it in both ears? Kind of like a dual-mono situation?
Can the internal audio from the camera be controlled with the DMW, as far as volume?
I don't think so, it switches into an XLR mode in camera so the internal audio becomes redundant really
Hey Josh - did you set the audio to 96KHZ and 24bit inside the camera for the DMW? I've not had a chance yet to try a side by side on the different settings (I think the default is 16bit 48khz), but this may up the quality to more like the Tascam.
Hi! Thanks for watching!
So I didn't tweak any of the sampling settings in camera. In the S5 I don't think you can actually...
@@JoshCameron ah ok. I have three S1 and there are 3 different quality settings.
Shame that the 96Khz/24bit is not supported by S5. Panasonic should enable that.
@@MichalJeck I agree. GH5 has it. Still, for voice probably won't notice a difference.
@@MichalJeck Hi, is it still the case?
Can you show us how you rig your camera adding in the new adaptor? Like monitor etc.
Yeah sure! I'm sure I can make more videos based around my CZcams set up so would love to share that with you :)
Josh could I use my rode filmaker kit with the DMW.
You'd have to convert your 3.5mm to XLR with an adapter of some sort, but I can't see why not!
Josh, a question not related to this video per say... did you get the kit lens with the S5? And is the lens barrel that slides in and out with change of zoom.. is it loose to flopping up and down and side to side a little or is it completely snug?
Hi Tim, I didn't get the S5 kit and instead opted for the 24-105. So I can't help with this unfortunately!
@@JoshCameron thanks!
Any updates on S5 that enables 24 bit on DMW-XLR1?
hello, do you know how to disable the center box in mf mode?
Unfortunately I haven't found a way to do this either!
Hey Josh, I tried shooting a video using the RODE NTG2 and DMW-XLR1 earlier and the sound was unusable, I had a similar experience running phantom into the mic I use for podcasts. Can't tell at this point if I have a faulty unit or simply a dodgy XLR. :( if you have any tips they would much appricitated. Great vid :)
Have you enabled the "XLR Mic adapter" setting in camera? If you haven't and this is switched off, then you'll get a lot of hiss and a horrid noise floor. Also, make sure you record your audio at around -16db/-12db so that you have headroom to play with in post!
Hope this helps mate, and if not then feel free to get in touch again and i'll try my best to help!
Never had a problem using this Luke, yes Josh is right make sure you have the camera mic turned off and set to XLR in camera.
@@JoshCameron Cheers bud, I'll get the camera set up and have another crack it. Thanks again!
@@Filmmaker809 Cheers, going to give it another shot now 👍
@@LukeBrownFigmentoFilms, Good luck, but come back to use please with an update.
you can auto sync in premier :)
Do you suggest to purchase this or Rode Wireless Go? I’m getting XLR1 for 190$
Defo XLR1 - XLR mics are far superior :)
@@JoshCameron great
@@JoshCameron thank you so much for the reply.
What Lav mic would you pair with this adapter?
Hey Josh, does it also work in reverse? Might be handy so I can rig it up with a top handle
It needs the hotshoe connection to work, so I'm not too sure how else you could mount it unfortunately!
@@JoshCameron Well that's unfortunate, but thanks for the info. I think I found a solution with a smallrig top handle that can extend.
Ive been looking everywhere and i cant find an answer. Is there a way to connect a rode ntg5 to a dslr with like a shoemount adapter or something?
With a cold shoe connection yeah defo, you just need to find the right mic holder :)
Hey Josh! I’m considering the DMW-XLR1 on my S5IIX, so I can have an XLR shotgun mic on camera and the 3,5mm audio jack for, let’s say, a wireless solution like the Rode Wireless Pro or sth. similar. However, I’m not completely sure how I would rig that thing up while also attaching a top-handle…have you run into that issue and solved it somehow? Thanks!
I'm running into this issue. The Smallrig 3082 top handle allows for height adjustment to accommodate hot shoe XLR units. You'll likely need to use one of their cages though. I'm going to play around with some other options and see what else I can figure out.
@@ywmedia that’s exactly what i got in the end. works great. however, it would have been cool if the handle could be attached via nato rail and not two screws…but that’s my only con.
@@lorenz_paulus Glad to hear it's working out! I assume that you need the "regular" S5II/x Smallrig cage (i.e. not the Black Mamba)?
If there's enough clearance you may be able to attach a nato rail to the cage and a nato clamp to the bottom of the handle.
@@ywmediai’ve the "regular" smallrig cage (4022) for the s5iix; however, i think that said top-handle (3082) can be installed on the "black mamba" version (4024) as well (judged by the holes on top).
thanks for the suggestion! the cool thing about the regular smallrig cage is that it already is formed like a nato rail on the upper edge, so you don’t need to mount a nato rail there!
@mipmipmipmipmip I put a cheese plate on top of my Tilta cage and did end up working. It's not super sleek/elegant though. If I find a more low profile cheese plate, it might work out a little better. The main thing is the Smallrig Top Handle is thinner/higher at the connection point, while other top handles sit too low or are too thick.
I wish I could use this with a top handle! Any suggestion on how it might be possible to fit both?
There is a hot shoe extension cable that was created for the GH5 cages it should work with the S5 as well. But you would have to confirm that.