Mahle OC54 Oil Filter vs. MANN W90/29 Oil Filter Cut Open Comparison
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Great video, thanks. I wonder what the total area is for the base holes, Mahle vs Mann. Which one can flow more oil?
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Figuring out the base inlet holes area is beyond my math expertise.
@@WhipCityWrencher Not sure if you can measure the oil holes but if you post the dimensions, I will do the math and post back here the results. The Mahle should be simple, just the diameter of the holes. For the Mann I need the width and length of the slots.
@@advrider9143 Sure, the Mahle oil filter inlet holes are Approx. .25" and the Mann oil filter inlet holes are Approx. .26" x .32"
@@WhipCityWrencher Correction. I made a simple math error. The correct oil flow areas are as follows:
Mahle 0.3927 square inches.
Mann 0.3036 square inches.
@@advrider9143 Thanks! You should delete the post with the wrong numbers.
They are both quality filters.I would be happy with both.
MAHLE is a GERMAN company who have factories all over , including here in the UK , i worked in a Mahle factory in Scotland for 20 years which as well as all the usual Genuine and also patern parts we produced for almost every major manufacturer, hundreds of thousands of them weekly , we also had and still have a dedicated Racing section where 1 off parts for Formula 1 cars are produced.
If you look on the front of the Ferrari F1 car it's got the MAHLE logo.
if you look closely at the packaging of the Mann filter, the bottom line shows an icon (maybe for "compatibility?) and "Mahle OC 54" !!!
@@Anson_AKB That's a thing MANN FILTER does sometimes: they write on the package the equivalent filters from other manufacturers.
Many filters have cross references to other brands. It is especially common on filters sold in bulk to auto repair shops.
Ferrari F1 uses Mahle pistons
In 1984 when Harley Davidson introduced the Evo engine one of the improvements in it over previous engine's were it's low expansion pistons, they were made by Mahle for HD.
Hy guys im from Germany and live near to MANN factory. i work in a Facility for people with disabilities, please by MANN products they giv people with disabilities work! She made good products to fair priceses and all made in Germany! So please Supports people with disabilies and by MANN products. Thank you!
Most Ttuck and Taxi services in Germany use MAN filters they are good!
That is so sweet ! Thank you for sharing :)
Mann filters are a big reason why my 1986 Mercedes Benz 560 SEL has lasted over 38 trouble free years.
BLABLABLA, facilities like that are also around Stuttgart and they build proucts for Mahle as well, my brother works in one of those.
@@merylpelosi8485 While the first filters which were build in in the factory have been Mahle filters, lmao. Like the Pistons in your car and 50% of all cars on this planet! But it's ok to think the Mann filters are the reason the Mahle products inside your engine are not breaking. Mercedes, Porsche and Mahle are located in Stuttgart, like Behr, the company which build the radiator of your car and parts of the ac. Behr is mostly owned by Mahle for almost 15 years now. So there are even more Mahle products in never Mercedes' and Porsche's and BMW's and Audi's and VW's, also in some French cars, a lot of Japanese brands and so on.
have used MANN filters for nearly 40 years, never had an issue
Have used random manufacturer filters for more than 20 years, never had an issue too.
@@robertolaggo9141same here
I like the Mann filters and had been using them in my Suzuki Grand Vitara. Where the filter is located you really need to use a cup socket for removal. Unfortunately the flats at the end of the Mann filters seem to differ from the likes of Bosch, Fram and Blueprint and genuine Suzuki filters and the cup socket slips on the flats where as it's a good fit on the other makes. It makes removal a bit of a pain due to the filter location. I have tried three different cup sockets and none fit the Mann filter properly.
i only use Mann for my car too :)
Good Luck having an issue with a filter tho 😂😂😂
MAHLE makes great products, I used their bearings and gaskets on my engine rebuild.
Most of your engine original parts probabky where mahle. I know all the PSA engines were all mahler parts.. pistons, rings, bearings etc etc etc
I'd rather not give money to China.
All this is meaningless, you need to find out the filtering capabilities of each one, that is how much crap each filter removes
100 % CORRECT.
Amen.
It does show two well made products. At least you know it's not cardboard and glue filter.
@@davidwickboldt712honestly don't care what it's made of, with or like.
Does it work well?
Does it last?
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Yeah, he's wasting ten minutes of the viewers time.
Both are actually good products. Used them both.
In the case of the Mahle filter, this is a clear testament to European standards and QA/QC overseeing Chinese production. As a global sourcing professional, I can tell you this - not everything made in China (or Thailand or Czeck Republic) is crap inferior quality. I’d be just as happy with the Mahle filter as the Mann.
Totally agree mate good stuff is available for china but a lot people just want cheap so they make more selling on
I also agree and mostly it is just made in China or so but by the German standard/ design. Than they better put designed in Germany, Switzerland and so on the item. Czechoslovakia made very good tools, machines and cars before ww2. I still think that German, our own Dutch and American tools and machines have the best quality.
@@gerhard6105 I bought some cordless stuff couple of years back, the firm that sells them is in my city but they get them made in china which is different to just buying in china to then sell on, there man goes out 3 or4 times a year and the quality is great
@@johngibson3837 yes, exactly.
It looks like the MANN has been cost engineered a bit more, possibly to keep it competitive price wise whilst retaining expensive German manufacturing/labour. The Mahle on the other hand is built with cheaper labour but perhaps to what would be a more costly design. The really important bit though is whether the designs meet/exceed the required performance for their intended service life and I think the answer is yes for both brands.
I've used both brands and can't fault either of them. Perfectly good filters. I'm usually a bit suspicious of Made in China parts, but Mahle is a German company that manufactures in China and clearly has strict quality control in place for its products.
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But you can not say wich one is better without a particle scan of the oil ;)
@@Tsripper69 Oil filter efficiency is overrated. Some of my first cars didn't even have one and did alright.
I would say, pick any well known brand filter, and oil. Much more critically is change often, whatever brand, like once a year or every 6000 miles/10.000 km no matter the instructuons says you can go x2 - x3 the distance.
@@Rimrock300 This is my angle on oil changes after 40 years of driving:
Change your oil only according to mileage. Every year is BS and a waste of good oil and money. If the manufacturer specifies 10 000 Ks, you can stretch that to 15 or eve 20 000. Sure, that might mean slightly more engine wear, but do you really want to one day bring your car to the scrap yard with a still perfectly good engine? Let your engine get old and worn at the same pace as the rest of your car.
Fascinating. Replaced lots of these but no idea how they are constructed, Thanks to whoever made this video.
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This was a positive surprise because of how thorough you are with your inspection. I learned a lot about the filters during the video. Thank you for that!
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I'm a Brit that's lived in beautiful Germany for 11 years. The auto factors here have great ranges but my go to for many years, even in the UK has been Mann filters. Never a bad product so far.
I used all the time MANN products on my Volvo D5 till two years ago, I needed quick and oil filter but couldn’t get one so I used a Mahle and I have to say, the engine runs a wee bit smoother. Didn’t expect that outcome but I can even notice a more balanced oil pressure with the Mahle.
Running a Mann interior Air filter, works a hell of a lot better than the Hyundai OE.
@Rich77UK yeah german weather is veautifull and uk call 27 celcius heatwave... 😂😂😂
I have worked in a Mahle filter factory located in Austria as an electrician for 5 years, maintaining and repairing the machines that made filters like this. And the Factory produced both Mahle and Mann filters, which is interesting
This proved more interesting than I would have expected. Well done.
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Worked a lot with both brands at a previous dealership. Haven’t had any recalls or issues with any of the two brands ever and the quality is what other brands are aiming at. My work was to make filter catalogues for off road and heavy on road equipment.
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People see 'made in China' and immediately assume it will be poor quality.
Others like myself, who have worked in the motor trade, in parts departments, know there are many different levels of quality of production, even in China. Yes there is some utter shyte, but there is also some very good quality Chinese stuff too.
There is an argument for not buying Chinese because of the political reasons of the CCP, but that doesn't have any bearing on the quality of the product.
Many quality brands of car manufacturer, have lots of their OE spec parts, (yes even on German cars), made in china.
It's not where it's made, it's whose quality standards it's made to.
I explain to people all the time that there's a big difference between "Bob's oil filters" that are made in China and Mahle filters that are made in China.
In the case of Bob's oil filters some guy named Bob who wanted to start an oil filter company went to China and sought out an oil filter manufacturer and made a contract with them to make his filters, which are essentially what they already produce, but print Bob's name and company logo on them and package them in a box printed with Bob's name and logo.
In the case of Mahle it was Mahle themselves that built the plant in China full of their spec production equipment along with everything being made to their standards, so essentially the filters are identical to the one's made in Germany.
Any large corporation whose products in the past 30 years started showing up with made in China written on the box are all essentially selling you the same exact product they were when their plant was located in Germany or the US or wherever it is they oriented from, they simply moved their plant to China along with enough management to oversee production to make sure the standards are held to the same level as before.
All that said I still try buying products made in countries that have free societies, I try my very best not to support communist systems.
@@dukecraig2402 Yep, expanded on my comment perfectly, I'm 100% in agreement.
Regardless of quality, who wants to give money to China?
What we should steal from them because they have the audacity to make something of equal quality but cheaper?
These are both German companies. MANN is a native filter manufacturer. MAHLE is a general automotive parts manufacturer. MANN builds by far the best filters and is the development partner of most German car manufacturers.
This
In this instance the MANN doesn't come close to the MAHLE, and you can litterally see it.
@@dirkfolscher3001 Hardly. This is not a test, but a series of personal and subjective preferences. MANN is the manufacturer of OEM Porsche oil filters. These oil filters are manufactured precisely according to Porsche specifications and with MANN development experience. All components of the oil circuit are matched to each other. In the case of oil filters, it is not about which oil filter has the most pleats, the thickest filter paper or the finest pores. It is about whether the filter mass remains dimensionally stable, whether the flow rate meets the OEM's specifications or whether the pressure gradient between the inlet and outlet is correct ... for example.
Mähle isn’t generic as someone posted (general automotive parts manufacture) they actually supply OE Daimler Benz, ZF as well as many others for OE fitment , they’re suppliers to Audi with OE BEHR coolers… General..? Not really, manufacturer of OEM ? pretty much…
Mahle ist Top! 25 Jahre Erfahrung mit Mahle! Preis Leistung Überragend.
Totalmente de acuerdo, y eso que siempre me ha gustado MAN pero la prueba que has hecho es evidente.
Muchas gracias por tu aportación
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I use Mahle in all my cars Mahle OX339/2D, Mahle OC49, Mahle OX152/1D, Mahle OX254 and Mahle OX636D.
Right now I have the first and last of those on order along with some 4L Castrol 5w-30 and 10L of 10w-40. I/m not about to cut up new or old ones so thanks for the show.
Cans are more sturdy than inserts, but the inserts on the v8, the OX152/1D, never gave me any problems on removal.
Most importantly need to be changed on a regular basis. 👍🏻
I agree, Mahle. I like more holes on top plate. 👍
Plus far better filtering medium.
@@user-sf7kl9uh7k how could you come to this conclusion? You have not filtered anything
@@will-ever I've watched the video, have you?
I like that the Mahle filter had a gasket at the top inside to prevent leakage past the filter element.
Great! Thank you so much for that!
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Nice video a de very good job. Of course , 2 more tests ( not easy to do ) should be done:
1 - differential pressure between inlet and outlet with the same oil, quality , flow and pressure .
2 - opening pressure of the release valve ( very important with dirty filter and cold conditions).
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Great review. Excellent. Thank you for sharing. Cheers.
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Great video ! Btw i have been using Mahle filters on my car for years and its good to know that an expert prefers Mahle over the Mann Filter .
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Hi Pete. Not much information was given to you but you did a great job, as usual; both the filters look good. You did a great review,👍TFS
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thanks Pete, and thanks to Anonymous for sharing. Both filters look to be very well made. The bypass valves are tight because those old 911's had really strong oil pumps. They held between 10-17 quarts of oil (depending in the year/model) and that pump had to push all that oil to the front of the engine to the oil cooler (Basically the oil did a job cooling the motor) The 4 inlet holes in the Mann is wild but they might not need more due to the oil pump and the pressure it creates. I would use the Mahle and change the oil every 5K on the dot but I think the Mann is acceptable due to the volume of oil those motors hold. I still like filtration quality as the #1 factor.
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@@WhipCityWrencher anytime, Pete!
dry sump system
Great review, cheers Whip! Mahle for me
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Date format, DD/MM/YY... The way it should be 😄
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Very interesting and useful video. 👍. Great care and attention to detail taken in the disassembly and measurement of both oil filters. I use a Mahle OC306 filter, on my BMW R1200R, which is changed annually with the oil. (these small Mahle filters are made in Austria and marketed as MAHLE Aftermarket GmbH, PragStr. 26-46, 70376, Stuttgart, Germany)
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The "made in" is the decider for me, I try to use Mann for everything.
For me it used to be the decider for me as well, it still is for some things. I never would buy a Mercedes bult in the USA for example, like the M-Class was, the GLE, GLS are. But conerning filters it doesn't make a difference, cause they are developed in here in germany. And i know chineese can build those as good as the germans, turks, italians, greeks, people from former Yugoslavia or all kind of asians who work on their production here in Germany!
@@escariol I'm a recently retired factory worker, we spent decades struggling against other countries' lower pay and production costs to the point we took a pay cut and it was ten years before we got back to the original wage ignoring inflation. I will always gladly pay a bit more to support European workers.
@@skinnytinny9023 You don't make sence at all! A Bulgarian worker earns about 10% of what a Danish worker earns. So which European worker exactly do you support if you buy products made in the EU but in some of the low wage countries?
@@Bretware904 possible, but Mahle isn't chinese even if it's build there. Or is the Iphone or any other Apple product chinese?
@@escariol Alright then, I'll buy made in the UK from now and on and f*ck everyone else, is that better?
👍 great sharing
A really professional test...thanks for your work.
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Another great video as always. Mahle takes the win on this one.
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Why? How can you tell it works better ?😲
I always like Mahle personally, very solid products. But same can be said about Mann or Bosch for that matter.
Great video. I really like how you show how much variation in design there is and it’s not just a different label on the filter. I’ve always struggled with Mann filters on my car. Especially with low oil pressure on startup. I’m not sure why. I haven’t used them since and my oil pressure issues have gone away.
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Mahle is also German, since 1920 they manufacture for all sorts of industries, also automotive. So I would totally trust it.
I used to work in a filter factory and personally would choose the Mann filter for the reasons of it's likely the Mann filters are probably the oem chosen when the motor was developed (so matched to the specifications Porsche required), next in the views of the centre pierced tube the Mann has steel plate rolled into a tube and spot welded whereas the Mahle looked like it was a pierced spiral strip coiled and continuous (roller) welded, so my question is how rigid is this tube,,getting to the filter media, although the filtering is finer what is the flow rate loss between each side of the filtration media especially in a high stress/loading situation, finally the assembly spring (the one in the bottom) the one on the Mahle looks a nice spring but the Mann's diaphragm spring plate by it's form looks to more positively centrally locate the filter in the filter "can" preventing the filter from "offsetting" to the side, I have other reasons I'd choose the Mann but these are the main ones.
The OE Piaggio Vespa filter has recently been replaced by Mahle. It is a metal cartridge filter which sits at the bottom of the engine. I have noticed that they corrode very quickly, and puncture easily. This didn’t used to be case.
China built a surprisingly nice filter.
China can and does build good stuff, if just whether the companies they build for keep on top of the quality control
@@Thecrazyvaclav ^ this
Mahle is OEM for many car-brands. I always buy my filter for my BMW from Mahle, but those filters are made in Austria.
But you cant tell by watching, the filter paper might be crappy!
@@SuperMegaImbaLord MAN also good, as German Knecht and Hengst brand.
Mahle is a premium German brand they might got the filters made in China but it'll still be to the standard they expect.
the quality of German products dropped slightly, but China gained extreme quality over the years, if you ask me today, i would go for China made products instead of German ones, bcoz i most likely will be getting same quality, but way higher price on German made.
Great comparison. I have seen quite a few Mann filters on German equipment. It is likely the OEM supplier to Porsche. I’d bet old Ferdinand preferred flow rate to super fine filtration in his engines. Just a guess but as much as I prefer a European product to one made in China I’d have to pick the finer filtration and the rubber seal at the top of the Mahle on this one. Another terrific comparative video. Thanks for sharing!
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Mann-Hummel makes filters for many brands of vehicles and OEM and on the shelf filters in the States of brand such as Purolator Boss family, Denso, Mobil1, Wix and Mamy more OEM filters. Mahle are made in China and are made for most foreign and Euro vehicles. They really both vary in design depending on model of vehicle. There is a whole myriad of designs that I have looked over.
Typed on your China made smartphone?
Thanks for sharing Pete! Have a good weekend!
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Absolutely awesome :) Thank you !!!!! Can you believe it ... All this technology and production for a product less then 8$ ( 4$ for the Mahle ) - I think the filter paper itself probably costs more lol ? The question for really smart people .... Is it better to have higher flow with increased filtration material vs. increased filtration and less material ? I don't know about oil but my HVAC dislikes those thick filters ( MERV 13 ) impeding flow .... With best wishes always !
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45 yr experiences in engine reconditioning MANN filter number 1 second Knecht
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I will go with the mahle filter .
I do buy a lot of items from china they have improved in quality 👌 recently
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Nice comparison. Love that you had to decode the mysterious German shortform date, that all the World uses apart from North America.
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personally on my truck I have always used MANN filters and I have never had any problems
We all know the legendary Volbo Redblock, it uses Mahle pistons :) both mann and Mahle is good filters and is the only ones i use in my own cars and in my customers cars.
i´d go with the mann. mor filter surface area means longer before the bypass valve opens. but to be honest. i´d take what ever arrives first. both companies are flawless.
Before I retired I was working on German made equipment we ordered parts for it. The packaging was all German. But when we opened it the stickers all said made in China.
Yes.every western bigger company has factories in China 😂.cheap work force
Yea, other countries like Germany have very different disclosure laws when it comes to where a product is made, in the US the package must show the country of origin, in other countries they're allowed to put the company's home country on the package and then the country of origin where the product was made on the product itself, by doing it that way you don't know where it was actually made until you get it home and open the box.
There's been companies caught here in the US advertising "Made in Germany/UK/France etc etc" who had people in those countries unboxing products and removing the Made in China stickers from the product then shipping them to the US distributors, by doing this they had people in the US buying products they thought were made in those countries and paying highly elevated prices for what they thought was "European craftsmanship".
I remember about 10 years back there was a new line of motorcycle helmets on the market that people were paying ridiculous prices for thinking they were made in Germany, turns out the helmets didn't pass European or American DOT safety standards, the shell's broke much easier than they should have once an agency started testing them even the padding on the inside wasn't up to the claimed standards, as soon as the trouble started and it became public knowledge that the helmets were actually made in China from normal plastics and other substandard materials the company's website went dead and nobody could get a hold of their offices which turned out to be an apartment or something like that where they were unboxing them and removing the labels then taking the reboxed helmets around the corner to a shipper and shipping them to the US.
I would go for the MAHLE filter because it restricts less oil than the MANN filter. For a sports car you need that the oil passes fast through the filter so therefore the MAHLE is better.
Less paper and more holes.
Mahle of course, it has a seal that the Mann doesn't have, it uses a spring at the bottom that is much more efficient than that plate, so I have no doubts.
I would say that the Mann filter would flow a larger volume of oil, whereas the Mahle filter would remove smaller particles, ensuring greater purity of the filtered oil. I would guess that the Mahle filter would become overwhelmed with contaminants much more quickly than the Mann filter, so if you're looking for a longer service life I'd go with the Mann filter. I work in the car parts supply sector, and European manufacturers tend to qualify Mann filters as OEM parts on their vehicles, so maybe they know something we don't!
Yes, cheaper. Oem always go for cheapest.not better
I bought a genuine Hyundai oil filter from the dealer, opened the box, and it's a Mahle filter. That's what I tend to buy, although I also buy Mann or Hengst. They aren't the metal can type, they're the paper cartridge type that fits inside a plastic cover.
Do Hyundaia i30 1,5 DPI 2021 rok kupiłem dwa filtry Hyundaia i Mann - jeden niebieski drugi Mann czarny- oba made in Korea a puszki metalowe taki sam kształt i rozmiar - różnią się kolorem i nadrukiem. Przypuszczam że są z jednej fabryki.
You are good with both....
I would go with the MANN. Nice even center with a slightly smaller inlet creates a negative pull through the filter media. And. It’s German on a German car. There is no substitute.
Mahle filters are developed in Germany, the manufacture of it specified and controlled by Mahle Germany. Does not matter where the factory is located
@@Rimrock300 It does matter when bean counters at Mahle outsource production to China to boost shareholder profits, destroy jobs here in Europe and the price tag for consumer ends up cheaper by pennies only.
Excellent video. Thank you.
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Thanks for taking the time to make the video. Would have been interesting to compare the beta-values. But then, of course, we are talking about costly testing equipment.
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Mahle are a top top company with very good reputation in the OEM and aftermarket world.
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Ann also rebrands purflux- i got one for diesel filtre purflux- clear readable and mann filtre with Brăila/blind style point laser burned
I have a 2005 crv. Previous owner had mahle oc617 oil filter fitted at a dealer and i bought the same filter twice. All 3 of them leaked! Seems like the rubber gasket is garbage.
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MAHLE is primarily an Engine Components Manufacturer.... and they are No.1. in my Opinion in building PISTONS.... that is the reason why there is in arabic no actual word for "Piston" excluding " MAHLE."... Mann-Filter is the Head Company for building the popular WIX Filters over in the U.S.... just to give you some information.....cheers from Germany (i use both Brands , they make great products !)
Purflux filter is very good too!
Mahle makes some of their filters in Mexico now, and and I believe Brazil also. Using Mann on the old Audi 2.7T Allroad 6MT
Two great brands. I don't have the most experience, but the only time I've ever had an o ring split was a MANN. I'd still use them again though
1990 Porsche. Now that brings back memories. Loved Porsche back then. Gorgeous little cars.
Yes, Porsche, Mercedes, BMW and VW built solid cars then and mostly built in Germany.
Use Mahle on my defender and the benefit is that the special tool for removing it fits whereas for any other filter you have big space issues.
I just replaced my LR3 oil filter with a Mahle oul filter made in Austria
I enjoyed your review :)
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I would prefer the Mahle. Despite being made in China it appears to be of better quality media and workmanship
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Being a BMW dude (E39), Mann appears to be the go to company for filtration. I also use them in my Alfa Romeo 156 and 166. I've used Mahle before, but never found one that was Made in China before.
Hello. I would go with the MANN filter because the filter element has a higher density, so it resists the passage of fine metal particles well over time and behaves better in the dilation effect due to the high temperature to which it is subjected! Greetings! Marian Rusea - Romania 🇷🇴
I like the way you have to explain the date stamp on the Mann filter 🙈🙈
I might be wrong but I think the Mann filter has a higher flow rate due to the larger surface area and lower density allowing more oil to get back into the engine.
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Mahle make pistons for Ferrari and Alfa Romeo amongst others... if it’s made in a Mahle factory, then it’s going to be A1 quality.
Bmw uses mahle for oem filters, and i always prefer mahle to mann, both are good but i see better attention to detail on mahle filters
The micron rating of the filter media is important; despite the microscopic difference, they may be the same.
Which does Porsche recommend/use? What level of filtration do they specify?
Could exceeding that specification (filter too fine) cause premature clogging, leading to filter bypass and engine damage?
Very interesting, I wonder if Mahle has an advantage with the spiral, lifting the media folds off the holes .... would be interesting to see how 2 used filters would look like after a light wash off to see if the media fins get sucked onto/into the holes and if the spiral makes a difference in dirt disposal on the inside media fins
Both are German brands with high quality standards. Tesla is an American brand, but you can also have Teslas made in China and Germany. The question is who did it and how, not where
Im familiar with Mahle as they made pistons for my old Bultaco and my Husqvarna motorcycles 80s
I tried different filters over the years. The only one that gave me issues was Champion. Oil light flashing at every start. But was bigger than the rest. Maybe didn't hold enough oil pressure. I don't know.
Last filter i bought as OEM has the Mahle logo written so i might stick with them for a while
Thanks for sharing
I agree, Mahle
Thank you for this deep comparison. It's interesting to see an oil filter taken apart. However, based on what you shown, you cannot make an assessment which one does a better job filtering oil or is more durable than the other. Both are top brands.
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Great video WhipCityWrencher our manufacture uses Mann Filters. Thanks
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those ridges in the Mahle serve a purpose: forget the rough holes: that spiral groove accelerates and directs fluid flow which the other don't: porbaby increases efficiency 4 fold..... also in the beginning: if there is no movement (like in an oil filter) metal-to-metal contact is what you want...an additional gasket just adds to more leak....
As a dayli mechanic Mahle is a top brand and the most common in use
Mamn filters used to be good
I realise you can't test everything but I think a flow test would tell us some good info, I've used Mann for decades in my VW/Audi shop, never had a problem not once, to me Mahle are makers of pistons (never seen filters for sale) so I'd be surprised if their filters weren't top notch.
I try to avoid Chinisium products as much as I can, but, with my 2005 Volvo XC90 and living in the Philippines, most of car products are made in China. Still, I prefer Mann filters over others.
As much as I try to avoid Chinese made products, i have to give this one to Mahle. It would seem that the baseplate holes would flow more while the media would filter better.
Which is not how oil filters work. It's not about as much flow as possible, or the thickest filter possible. It's about having the exact oil flow the engine needs, and the exact amount of filter thickness, etc. MANN makes filters for Porsche OEM, they're designed specifically for Porsche's and come in them when you buy them The MAHLE filter is a generic filter, one for all design pretty much, and not specifically made a specific engine.