Low Profile Coolers vs. 7800X3D
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- CPU behaviour & thermal optimisations for 7800X3D. 12 low profile coolers comparison / benchmark.
Timestamps
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00:00 - Intro
00:07 - Test System / Hardware
00:15 - R7 7800X3D CPU Specs
00:23 - 7800X3D Performance (Stock)
01:40 - 7800X3D Performance (Optimised)
02:24 - Cooler Comparison / Benchmarks
03:02 - Outro
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System Specs
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- BC1 Mini v2: www.quietpc.com/st-bc1-mini-v...
- Asus Rog Strix B650E-I Gaming WiFi: amzn.to/3FMmeQa (paid link)
- R7 7800X3D: amzn.to/45O7KdJ (paid link)
- 32GB Gskill Ripjaws DDR5 (2x16GB), 6000MHz, CL30: amzn.to/3DLOwt7 (paid link)
- PSU: SilverStone Extreme 850R: amzn.to/3YiMl9X (paid link)
- SFF Cables by CableMod: store.cablemod.com/?ref=62250 (affiliate)
Coolers
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- Noctua NH-L9a chromax.Black: amzn.to/30dUpPj (paid link)
- IDCOOLING IS-47XT amzn.to/3qcso8l (paid link)
- AXP90 X47 Copper: amzn.to/3BBmeR2 (paid link)
- AXP90 X53 Full Black: amzn.to/3tTMTpj (paid link)
- IDCOOLING IS-55 amzn.to/3q8JvrJ (paid link)
- Noctua NH-L12 Ghost: amzn.to/43SEhOn (paid link)
- Scythe Big Shuriken 3: amzn.to/3ipbWLe (paid link)
- DeepCool AN600: amzn.to/3ObGjmQ (paid link)
- AXP120-X67: amzn.to/3OdOroI (paid link)
- Noctua NH-L12S: amzn.to/3yGEd5P (paid link)
- Thermalright SI-100: amzn.to/42HY839 (paid link)
- Noctua NH-C14S: amzn.to/3fCYYYj (paid link)
- Noctua NH-U12A chromax.Black - amzn.to/3FCMkEf (paid link)
- SilverStone Vida 240 Slim - amzn.to/3DG0Fjj (paid link)
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This is just the comparison I’ve been looking for! Thank you!
Happy to see the AN600 in the comparison!
Would have loved to see Thermalright's AXP-100 Full Copper too. I assume it would outperform the AXP90-x53 Full Black, but I am very curious on how much. Although anything Thermalright full copper is virtually impossible to buy, at least here in the US.
Thanks for this. Very informative. Was surprised to see that the thermalright fan spins at 2000RPM at just 60%.
Wow, this was something I needed. I was about to go for the is-55 for the 7700 but I've always wanted the 7800X3D in a SFF. Knowing there's a better cooler for it (AN600), I might just op for the 3D instead 🤗 thanks!!! It's great to see both cooler options are available and at an affordable price here in the PH.
Good information quickly. Well done.
its really awesome the power these low profile tower coolers have when applied to real world cooling. Unless you're putting your CPU under stressful synthetic loads, or trying to really push your silicone luck, you don't really need an AIO. Air cooling is making a grand comeback
Awesome data!
Thanks to your recommendation, i got the axp120 insteas of the is55.
Very useful and detailed comparison!
Cheers for the vid.
I've ordered the L9A to pair with the 7800X3D to put into my FormD T1, looks like I'll be doing the NF-A9x25 chromax swap to help thermals stay a bit more manageable.
how are the temps? have an l9a on am4 right now and thinking of just getting the am5 bracket instead of buying an axp90 36
@@sam-gz1ql my workload never loads the CPU, so I've never seen above 75°C at 25°C room ambient at 70% fan speed (I didn't even do the fan swap) 😁
@@AxleLotl wow nice, and do you think the fan swap helped at all? I don’t know much about how swapping fans helps or hurts temps
@sam-gz1ql I didn't do the fan swap, I was going to and I have the fan to do it, but after doing some tests, the extra static pressure wasn't needed. (:
I am thinking of changing to an AXP90-52, though.
im going to buy x47. thank you sir
Hey man, your channel has been a mine of data that I was looking for, thank you for doing the work! Well worth the sub!
I'm building a high-end Fractal Terra PC, with 7800X3D, Asus B650E-I Mobo and a RTX4090 FE (yet to be delivered).
CPU cooling has been an issue, loads of benchmarks in the net, but most of them are outdated in 2023.
Max clearance I have with the above setup is 66mm, the case would some minor modification of course.
Not knowing what I was doing I settled on a Noctua NH-L9x65. I'm gonna return it and get something else.
My 3 options are:
1. AXP-100 full copper with a 15mm Noctua fan swap
2. NH-L12 Ghost stock
3. ID-55 with a 25mm Noctua fan swap.
What do you reckon might be the most heat efficient and quietest solution? Emphasis on quietest.
Not gonna do any CPU demanding work on the PC, mostly 1440p high-fps gaming.
Hi, please tell me what you finally chose and do you like what you took?
@@potato-cv7ro I settled the NH-L12 Ghost. I also tried the IS-55, but it was too loud for my liking.
@@Pyzio1cssr Okay, thanks a lot for the help.
@@Pyzio1cssr Excuse me, but can you show a photo of how your case looks inside, for example via imgur, or are you uncomfortable?
Thanks for your work! I had problems to decide between the options for the fractal ridge with a 7800x3d.So the axp 120 is the best option.
Are you happy with it ?
@@joaoduarte5989 yeah,kind of. With Curve optimizer and fixed Fan rpm it is alright. But for best results you should consider direct die cooling,which i didnt want for my Build.
hi! thanks for this video, it helps a lot to shrinks a cooler options for my new gear.
im planning to get 7800X3D on my 7.5l case with only 70mm clearance for cooler. originally i got some names, but now i only have few options (NH-L12S, BS3, ID-IS55, and TR AXP120-X67), which one will suit my needs if i plan to switch all the fan to my old Noctua 120x15/120x25? will changing the fan to Noctua improve their performances by significant?
and sorry for asking, but i need to make sure, all this coolers you tested isnt a golden-pick one right? i mean, its the same version as the markets get right? cause ive seen some reviewers get a golden-pick coolers hence the results is quite different from one to another. hope i get some answers from you, thanks! (:
Sorry I missed this. These are all retail units.
Which case ?
Do you recommend 7800x3d with noclua L9a on the Velka 3
Only gaming!!
Will single tower cooler have trouble running this cpu? I just dislike big cooler after my previous build adds more weight to carry around. My games are usually massive multiplayer shooters
Great to see the new AN600 too!
I want to build 7950x in cooj mq6, which cooler would work best in your opinion, l12s, axp 120x67 or an600? I have max cooler height of 72mm and I’ll go with the mesh panel to reduce the turbulance noise from close fans
L12S is likely to provide the least turbulence with fan installed underneath, if that's a main priority. All 3 of these coolers are on par with each other in terms of cooling. It's worth noting that the L12S may not be compatible with all AM5 ITX boards, and one of the heatpipes made ever so slight contact with I/O shroud on my own B650E-I motherboard. AXP120-X67 is the cheapest. AN600 has a better stock fan and similar excellent motherboard compatibility as AXP120-X67.
@@L91 Thanks for the opinion! I’ll probably try an600. Is the fan swappable to noctua or it’s good enough to not swap? I might not like the lighting it has, can you turn it off?
@MamukaOkriashvili the included fan is decent, but you can not turn off the white lighting, but you can swap the fan with nf-a12x15 or SilverStone Air Slimmer which is slightly better is my understanding.
@@L91 thank you! 🙏
I hope you would've included alpenfohn blackridge, i appreciate if you compare the thermal result of it on 7800x3d with all low profile coolers
I opted not to include it this time round since it's not officially compatible with AM5 and requires work arounds, such as modifications to mounting hardware. I did include it in the previous comparison with 7600X & 7700X: czcams.com/video/xiYoYa7c_uU/video.html
Do I need to set the 75watt limit in the AiTweaker/PBO tab and the 75000 limit in the Advanced/AMD Overclocking/PBO tab or just one of the two?
Just do the advanced setting
The thermalright axp 120-x67 is not compatible with AM5 Mobos so how did you test that with a 7800x3d?
I'm not sure where you got this info from, but it isn't accurate. Unless you mean AXP90 coolers, but that also isn't accurate imo
Out of curiosity, what thermal paste are you using?
ARCTIC MX4
Would an IS-55 see any improvement from swapping out the slim fan for a 25mm or 30mm?
Swapping slim fan for 25mm thick fan or otherwise doesn't really provide additional cooling when it comes to coolers, simply better noise profiles
I'm deciding between the L12s and the AXP-120x67, but the results from your videos seem to be conflicting.
On one previous video you made, the L12S beat the AXP, but now here the opposite is true.
have you tried the Noctua-L9x65 with this Cpu 7800x3d?
I haven't, sadly. Its definitely not on level of existing 67mm coolers and I'd be surprised if it beats the AXP90-X47 Copper by much if at all. All speculation, of course.
The Thermalright AXP90 X47 Full Copper is such a beast
Surprised by where the IS-55 is ranked
AXP90 copper coolers sure do change up the dynamics. I'm not too surprised by IS-55 myself. The L12 Ghost, however, is just an enigma on Zen4.
I would've expected the IS-55 to perform just below the AXP120 X67, and certainly not be worse than the AXP90 X47.
@Notorious544d it doesn't perform as well on Zen4, unfortunately. It performed similarly in my 7600X, 7700X testing: czcams.com/video/xiYoYa7c_uU/video.html
Does the AXP90 X47 FC fit on the Gigabyte B650I mobo? Seen some people say they had to dremel the backplate or dent the pipes to make it work
I was also surprised. I think Hardware Canucks tested on 7000 processors. In their tests IS-55 performed similar to AXP-100 Full Copper. Wonder what could cause the difference.
But now that I think of it, they normalized their results on output noise.
Surprised that IDCOOLING IS-47XT has so low performance. Why did it happened?
I wonder, why there is so much difference in perfomance on AM4 and s1700 platforms? Сopper TR AXPs VS IS-55?
I've not tested AM4 with most of these coolers, so I can't say anything concretely, but in my experience, platforms and CPUs can change the narrative. Feel free to link other sources.
@@L91 Sorry, I actually mean AM5 and two of your test.
@@cryptosol160 I've not tested the IS-55 and AXP90 coolers on AM4
Why aren't there any of the AXP100 models in this comparison?
CPU coolers aren't cheap. I don't have any. Unfortunately, not every cooler is going to be shown or been tested. Take your pick.
@@L91 Thanks for the fast answer! athought I missed something. Do you think AXP100 would perform better than the axp90 models?
@iDoPew I cannot say for certain, but I believe so based on comments I heard. You can always look for comparison online and cross reference other coolers
Hey man can you please test the Black Ridge with a 120MM slim fan on top. PLS! That would be so helpful, you can even do it with the is55
You mean 25mm fan on top of IS55, instead of 15mm thick fan, which offers like 1°C improvement. Adding slim 120mm on top of the Black Ridge does offer improvement, but then it's 63mm tall at that point and in eyesights of AXP120-X67 and the likes. It's also not how the cooler comes.
@@L91 hey thanks for reply. O i forgot is55 came with slim 120mm. I am considering the black ridge and the x67 for my formd t1`, yes I know with 15mm slim 120mm on top its 63mm, but for me that means I can give my cpu fan or my gpu fans more room in my Formd T1. Which performs better at same noise level: axp120-x67 or black ridge with a slim 120mm fan on top ?
@zafert85 Black Ridge will very likely be quieter due to reduced turbulence if you run the fan underneath the BR at low RPM and top fan as desired. It's also worth noting that BR is not compatible with AM5 and has some caveats with motherboards
@zafert85 Black Ridge will very likely be quieter due to reduced turbulence if you run the fan underneath the BR at low RPM and top fan as desired. It's also worth noting that BR is not compatible with AM5 and has some caveats with motherboards. This is why is didn't test it with 7800X3D
@@L91 I will use 100% top fan , because i have lp ram not vlp. What would performance be like compared to axp120?
Are these tests done with expo enabled?
XMP, mine isn't an Expo kit, Gskill Ripjaws DDR5 6000, CL30
@@L91 xmp can’t be used with same numbers on amd motherboards?
@ozzracer XMP kits does the same thing as Expo. Its just OC profile, it's the RAM timings that matter. Its not called XMP in BIOS btw
I picked the Noctua NH-L12S for my gaming setup
Did i fucked up?
If it fits on the motherboard, that would be a no :)
no more burn issue regarding to the 7800x3d?
I know it's kinda late but it was only the asus cross hair x670e that were blowing up but that has been fixed with a Bois update
@@PigDog-iu9noBois update
@@MitchellTheMitchbois
It would be nice to see them compared using the same fan. It's time to rebuild in my SilverStone FTZ01S and the decision for CPU cooling is to reuse the NT06-Pro cooler with a SilverStone Air Slimmer 120 slim fan (instead of the Noctua fan I had on it), or use a 240mm AIO (SilverStone VD 240-Slim or Asetek 670LS). The AIO will fit inside the case above the motherboard if the HDD tabs are bent down; however, it would only have a single 120mm fan slot usable. Both types of coolers would have a slim fan pulling from the bottom and dispersing down draft air flow onto the motherboard, as well as the ability to add a second identical fan on the outside of the case side panel (if one doesn't mind the asthetic) to create push/pull. I'm curious about the performance since it is impossible to find reviews/tests newer than 2015 of the NT06-Pro using a good slim fan under it and two good slim fans. It's also just as difficult to find tests of an AIO using only one fan position. Other competant builders I've talked to only speculate that the 240mm liquid cooler with one 120mm fan would be the better performer than that large air cooler using the same one 120mm fan.
What is going on with the L12 Ghost?
Can't believe the AXP120 is outperforming it by that margin
It's having a very rough time on Zen4, and even rougher with X3D, landed about on par with X47FC with 7600X & 7700X. I've literally no idea. I'm going to chat with Noctua as I don't get it either. Though they didn't seem at all surprised by my last benchmarks with 7600X, 7700X. The X47FC is an incredibly powerful cooler for its size and punches well above its weight class of 47mm.
@@L91 Yeah that sounds like a good idea. The X47FC seems WELL worth its price, holy cow. That little thing for sure does pack a punch.
Out of curiousity; I would like to do a 7800X3D build in the Fractal Terra (sigh, I know.) what cooler would you actually recommend? CPU cooling feels like such a tough topic for that case in particular! Appreciate all the hard work you put in, these videos are extremely helpful!
@Zqott tough call, since I've no experience with Terra, I'd suggest chatting with our dedicated Fractal group over on Discord: discord.gg/sffgurus
@@L91did you use the Noctua AM5 Offset mounting kit?
Thanks bro. This shows that an l9i SFF build probably should stay away from the 7800x3d
NH-L9a can work for gaming but not well suited to multicore.
Would love to see the axp90-x36 tested. :)
Performs near identical to L9a
@@L91 wonder if adding a 25mm fan on the x36 would improve the performance above the l9a then.
@JSpaceCraft you could add 25mm to either of these coolers, doesn't improve performance, only slightly better noise profile. At that point, the cooler would be 47mm tall, but would get absolutely obliterated by AXP90-X47 FC for thermals
Do you know how to undervolt a 7945hx on a laptop? I can get into the secret bios but theres nothing that says unlock undervolt anywhere like the intel. But theres 100s of other settings. Ive got an alienware m18
I don't have experience with laptop CPUs, sadly 😔
That -20 on all cores is probably not stable. One should test each core separately for hours on end with many different instruction sets. Some sissy french guy has this stress test software called OCCD or something, and he moronically made it a subscription only thingy with no perpetual license I think. Give him the money for the month and finish all your core tests within that month and cancel the subscription.
😂
Surprised that the axp90-x53 did so much better than the is-55!
AXP90-X53 Full Black in all copper cooler and not to be mistaken with X53 Black. The copper AXP90 coolers perform unbelievably well for their size on Zen4 and LGA1700.
@@L91 I'm glad they also sell an all white version of this cooler :)
Telling people to set negative offset on curve optimizer is terrible idea. Not every CPU can do that , mine cant even handle negative 5. You just made random people with bad luck crash their PCs.
I apologise, I'll make sure to highlight disclaimers better in future. I'd also point out that one shouldn't take everything you see/hear on Internet as gospel as rule of thumb