Ford Pines 30 Years in the Nightmare Realm FULL TIMELINE! (Gravity Falls Journal 3 Lore Explained)
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The Gravity Falls episodes Not What He Seems, A Tale of Two Stans and The Last Mabelcorn uncovered the journey of Stan stranding and saving his twin brother, the author of the Journals, Ford Pines, from the Nightmare Realm and interdimensional portal, and how Stanford came into contact with the king of nightmares, Bill Cipher. However, the show never explored Ford's 30 years in the Nightmare Realm - so thanks to Journal 3: Special Edition, we're mapping out the FULL TIMELINE and breaking down the lore! The Oracle, the Axolotl, a prophecy for Weirdmageddon and more!
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Respond to my comment please
@@lilhumbo3644 okay .
@@lilhumbo3644 I replied
It would be so cool if they did a prequel about Ford's time in the portal
@@tayloredwards4968 yeah actually
I want a Disney plus show based around Ford’s time in the nightmare realm
I’d rather a movie or miniseries
Facts 💯.
Or you know another season of gravity falls
Don't give 2020 ideas
We all do
Ford is a complete badass. I wish we got to see all of this animated
That would be cool 😎🥰
T
Yeet
That would make alot of money
I've thought about doing this ever since rumors of stan having a lost brother between dimensions first arose.
They should have made spin off about Ford's adventures
It's headcanon to me that Ford went to Amphibia and the Boiling Isles in his adventures in the multiverse.
Yes yes yes YES YES YES!!!!!
I think it’s more convincing that he went to the Boiling Isles because of a short line he recited in Gravity Falls. He said something very similar to what Eda mentioned when explaining the world to Luz. If you know, ya know
I’m the owl house they said that a few hundred years ago a human came to their realm
Oh, he definitely ended up in the Boiling Isles somehow. I love that so much
That’s what I was thinking
For those who don’t remember, on the Journal 3 pages where he discusses Bill’s true nature, he states that the blood on the pages came from Bill’s constant trips through Ford’s mind. The pages stated that Bill’s actions in Ford’s mind made Ford’s eye so sore that it bled.
I’m impressed Alex was allowed to write that, and if that portion of the text was visible in the show (specifically, in Dreamscapers and Weridmageddon 1 where the first few pages of Bill’s Journal 3 pages are shown), I’d be even more impressed.
Alex was able to have bleeding possessed animal heads chanting "ancient sins". We shouldn't be surprised that Disney let Alex write about a bleeding eye.
Yeah, grabbing my journal 3 book the first time we see this is "UPDATE: several hours after the experience with my Muse, I experienced a burning pain in my right eye. Probably just a headache. I have attached a monocle to this book to help me read with one eye until it goes away. I hope it doesn't bleed. . . . Very odd . . . " With a pic of it next to it
I love how the gravity falls story is still going on in books
We don’t need a season 3, the show ended perfectly
Ik but It kinda ended way soon so maybe just a side story of a character or a movie or something
What would happen if they completed the zodiac? I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!!!
Epilogue special on Disney+? Maybe.
No
yeah tbh in my opinion I'm not saying it will but I don't want it to flop or something or end up like other good old shows that's still continuing today where they're just... bad
This makes me wonder, what would’ve happened if Ford managed to defeat Bill before he got sucked back through the portal? Would his interaction with Stan have been any different?
I doubt it would have been able to kill Bill himself. He has precognition so he probably ALLOWED Ford to get that close, since he knew the rift would open and the Pines would get mad at each other, making it harder to stop him
@@ZeRandomizor what about the the thing he tried to use againts bill if he didnt miss maybe he could of killed bill
@@ZeRandomizor I mean he failed to predict a lot of things in the finale
It may be a bit late to answer this, but I think so. I imagine that if the portal opened after he defeated Bill, he would've been a lot happier to have been brought back and maybe even thankful towards his brother. However, I'm not sure whether that would've been enough to mend the relationship between the Stan Twins. In the series it's only when everything comes to a head with Bill and Stan sacrifices himself that Ford finally acknowledges his own mistakes and realizes that his brother isn't the bad person/bad influence that everybody including himself always thought of him as. I'm afraid that without that happening, Ford and Stan's relationship wouldn't be fixed and Ford would end up kicking Stan out and closing down the Mystery Shack for good. Also, it would further increase his hero complex and his belief that he doesn't need anybody else.
Thank you, Journal 3, for filling in the parts of Gravity Falls' lore that the show never gave us.
I so agree, this is like a treasure trove of secrets from the POV of one of the coolest characters
@@snowyoctober I just wish it had been televised, even if it's just for a miniseries: Ford's Journey Through the Multiverse.
i kind of rather it this way it gives us the opportunity to see things from ford's viewpoint in the show it has to be dipper's since he never actually knew what ford was doing and never knew who he was until stan explained it.
bro the easters eggs in that book to the series is awesome like for example the misspelled misquito bites
Love that we’re in 2021 and we still are getting gravity falls content, this shows fandom will never die 😌
@@kuba7857 facts
GF, timeless
@sir. gaming 🎶Come grab your friends🎶
The Two Dimensional Dimension is literally straight out of the 1800's book "Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions" by Edwin Abbott. Like the whole shape class system and everything. That's really cool
I'm reading it right noe
Was there a movie about that, or was that something else
@@glittergirl1240 THERE WAS IVE WATCHED IT IM PRETTY SURE THERES TWO VERSIONS ON CZcams (sorry caps but i’ve never seen anyone talk about the movie version)
There's an amazing fanfic about Bill Cipher and Flatland called Flat Dreams. It's on Archive of Our Own by PengyChan. I highly recommend it, it's awesome and well written. They even wrote a second part with side stories and more character development that didn't fit in the original work.
Technically, the Oracle WAS referring to Ford himself, as he is the one who fired the shot on the memory gun.
Almost a year late, but technically the Oracle is referring to both Stan’s as they have almost the same face, possibly even the other Pine twins is they grow up to have close enough family resemblance, and all 4 were important to defeat Bill
actually i think its stanley why? beceause he looked like ford when he killed bill the oracle probably got confused between the two just as much as bill because of that.
The oracle: The Face of a Hero. The one who will stop Bill Cipher.
Me: Stanford?
The oracle: I was talking about Stanley.
@@thephoenix4093 That's what it was implying, yes. But Ford is the one who actually, you know, pulled the trigger on the memory gun and erased Bill from existence.
@@Joe-rz3fd yes but i think that ford feels diffrently.
Just another goofy episode filled with silly jokes for kids.
“A sixty foot monster made of fingers and teeth”...
@@spector1892 that aint sound like jokes for kids
Rick was here
Suddenly get Rick Rolled
@@pefiyeplayz280 and because they meet up he tries desperately to avoid human relationships because they could mean doom for his loved ones. Or something around that rick is an ashole after all
*tHe EnD oF tHe wOrLd*
I can’t believe the fandom isn’t dead. I love it, I’m not alone
In gravity falls nothing's forgotten
Nothing is ever forgotten here and no soul is alone. Welcome home friend! 😊
You will never be alone.
@@dream_walker9726 🥲
@Smartness_itself I just watched the show for the first time tvsu year so I hope you’re right about that
I thought this was going to be a new series...
Same. I'd watch it.
It’s possible that’s the new show that’s being made lol
@@nahhhhhhhh271 It's not :/
in pretty sure the stuff in this video was all written in the journal by ford after he came out of the portal.
Me too
@@snifflypig by Alex hersh dude
I didn't know that this had a timeline lol
i had a seizure trying to read this, but I agree
@@leggyladdie I'm sorry if you didn't understand at the beginning I'm using translator
@@alecs1139 it's okay I understood just fine 👍
Yeah, in the Journal 3 it said what happened to Ford
@@alecs1139 better translation: I didn’t know that this had a timeline lol
Yay! Finally someone covers this! Ford’s Multiverse shenanigans are one of the most fascinating-and least covered-parts of GF.
The guy’s had a rough time...
Ford really deserves a hug
@@leahdolly3483 WE NEED A MINISERIES ABOUT IT
The part where Ford met Parallel Fiddleford got me thinking. PF mentions how when someone makes physical contact with their parallel self, the dimension collapses. If that’s correct, then how does Dimension MAB-3L from Lost Legends not implode? Plot hole or exception?
Perhaps it’s only if a new one touches their counterpart from that dimension. It stands to reason that if two different counterparts met in a universe that was home to neither and then touched, then they would not implode that dimension since they aren’t breaking the laws of said dimension.
Because they aren't in each other's dimensions, there in a pocket dimension that belongs to none of them.
AH YES. D4C PLUS TWO
Also that was in the paradox dimension, and given paradoxes maybe it just works by different rules or is more unstable in general.
I'd love to see Alex Hirsh make an official Gravity Falls prequel (Before Season 1, starting at Ford and Stan's fight) around Fords time in the multiverse, for it sounds like good possibly multi-seasonal story of Ford and the Nightmare realm.
So technically, Ford could’ve went back home at any time? Especially when he came across the alternate version of Earth that had its own portal machine. Maybe he chose to stay in order to learn how to defeat bill
He had this opportunity only in that dimension (after 30 years). His weapon was almost ready and his plan was great. He didn't care about his home dimension. He just wanted to destroy Bill.
Not really- Ford didn't have the ability to specify what dimension he could go to (mostly he just took random portals or rifts he found). He was also worried that if he went back, he'd be endangering people he cared about to Bill's wrath.
For whatever reason, Bill had his sights set on Gravity Falls as the epicenter of his take-over, so Ford intentionally avoided going home so Bill couldn't follow him. Alongside just... not having the tech to choose dimensions.
Ah yes, good old sixer was fun to have around.
No worries, Bill. I'll encourage Ford to visit your statue. Sorry that you couldn't colonize a new dimension. You can have another chance next melinium, though.
Maybe after meeting Rick, he provided Ford with a way to jump into different dimensions, as Sanchez was said to be the only person capable of doing so.
Which sanchez
@@iliketosaytruecomments3326 rick
@@onlyoneofyourfries8002 which rick
@@iliketosaytruecomments3326 sanchez
@@boobiegaming Which Sanchez?
I’ve always thought that Ford’s multiverse adventures deserved their own miniseries or something (I guess it would be somewhat similar to Infinity Train, traveling through endless worlds and all). I know, I know, Gravity Falls had a perfect run, but still, I want to see this animated!
I love stuff like this, it feels so roundtable.
What I love about the alternate Earth is that it implies that Bill tried to manipulate Ford more than once
What exactly do you mean? It sounds interesting
@@yumestar19 I'm saying that, because of the fact that the alternate reality were Ford never fell into the portal exists in Gravity Falls cannon, and because Bill exists in-between dimensions, it implies that Bill tried and failed to take over multiple alternate versions of Gravity Falls, and finally succeeded with the version of Gravity Falls that we watch in the show
@@williammerwin1850 ah thanks! This makes total sense! But why is there no parallel Bill xD Just imagine ten Bills trying at once to harass Sixer xD
@@yumestar19 Actually, i just imagined Bill harassing multiple versions of Ford, not the other way around
@@williammerwin1850 Of course that's also an option xD
I’d definitely be up for a miniseries chronicling Ford’s 30 years of dimension hopping. Especially to see those parallel Earth dimensions.
"Where he prepared to face the forces that drove mcgucket into insanity"
WeLcOmE tO tHe GaLaR rEgIoN
T H E T R E E
Please tell me that gravity falls is getting a spin off about Stanford trying to get home after Stanley traped him in a different dimension
it's not, this was all in journal 3
much sad :(
BUT Alex Hirsch is making a new series of something
@@snifflypig oh and plus alex hirsh gf made owl house! :D
I love Gravity Falls so much
yeah but too bad it's owned by disney
@@ryanmatthews3609 i wish hbo would buy the rights like infinity train
@@yeetbaljeeet5435 me too or even let netflix by the rights to it instead since there totally killing it with the animation industry(for the most part)
I always wanted to know what happened to him
Lol
Oh, that said "1 second ago"
I thought it was uploaded 1 year ago
same
Same
same
@@ejaydoesstuff “samr”
@@tammyoldman6083 no.
So all my lost nerf bullets went the the nightmare realm.
I got hit in the eye.
Bill Cipher good. Jkjk ILY. And it’s where my hair ties went
Yup
Also all the socks i lost went there to
And my little cousin to
17:52 OMG this scene makes so much sense now that ford has an actual reason to punch stanley.
I miss Gravity Falls so much. I’m glad we have shows like the owl house to remind us of it.
Agreed. The Owl house really scratches that itch that gravity falls left.
Infinity train scratches that itch for me
Truly a new golden age of television
@@Betito1171 I like those shows a lot actually I want more
Watch Amphibia! There's a crossover episode....ere sort of, but Alex Hirsh reprises his roles...err sort of.
There's a Disney multiverse.
Gravity Falls was a overrated series 🔺
Damn I just finished rewatching gravity falls and this is just perfect timing
How was Ford able to jump dimensions? We know that he used a wormhole to escape the Nightmare Realm but how did he travel to the other dimensions and eventually back to the Nightmare Realm? Did he just find more wormholes or did he use a device to jump realms?
He found Rick Sanchez .
He had an anklet that let him travel through dimensions
@@cruizing6397 wait really? where did you get that info?
i like to think he met rick sanchez
I agree he met Rick and Rick told him how inner dimensional travel worked
Why doesn't Stanford just take a shotgun into the multiverse
bruh
@@Jkslay686 am i wrong though
@@firefistzzzzzztheanimator1442 no
@@firefistzzzzzztheanimator1442 but he had a gun eventually
Lol yea
The two dimensional dimension is an obvious homage to the novel "Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions" by Edwin Abbott Abbott. That novel also likely provided some inspiration for the character of Bill Cipher (the main inspiration was the Eye of Providence). Bill is an equilateral triangle, which would have been considered part of the lower classes in Flatland. In Flatland, innovators are imprisoned or suppressed and members of lower classes who are intellectually valuable are usually killed. This is somehow reminiscent of what Bill said about his own dimension and the justification he provided for the genocide he committed.
in this dimension, there are round earthers
@@boobiegamingwell in the book a 3d sphere did interact with the 2d people so...
I think with Dipper he saw something in him he saw in himself that’s why he trusted him so much
I have a question.
How Ford became so tough and wise when he returned from the portal? We saw him being a selfish and scared nerd before Stan pushed him through the portal
@@dedi621 it was 30 years later and the things he saw would of hardened him lmao, him being “selfish and scared” was him being paranoid from being tricked by bill and feeling like he’s set off something horrible (which he kinda did lol)
They really should have made a spinoff show about him and his adventures there
2:00 According to Probabilitor, it's "Dimension 46 Apostrophe Backslash"
46'\
To quote Luz, that's a spinoff I'd watch.
Me, someone who's been heavily involved in the fandom for over two years and already knew all of this: So, I've allowed myself to be hurt for nothing?
I literally need any gravity falls news
Bill cypher is supposedly soos
@@firefistzzzzzztheanimator1442 no way
@@firefistzzzzzztheanimator1442 yeah
Bill realy wanted revenge on the mystery twins soos wanted the shack so at night bill gives the shack to gidion
@@firefistzzzzzztheanimator1442 nah
Soos is way to kind hearted for Bill
“You know, if Ford’s journey would’ve happened today, he would at least have some rocking music to listen...”
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Imagine how awesome it would be to get a series on disney plus about stanfords adventures
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I’m excited for the Rick and Ford one!!! IM PUMPED! CANT WAIT!!!
Its been 6 months 😔😔
Me during any frame with ford in it: *inhales* *high pitched screaming* the journals!
I thought the “the opposite of Bill” message was referring to the axolotl, not the oracle
or a "very polite purple square"
Same. Maybe the oracle got it's power from the axolotl, like oracles in mythology got their power from a god.
@@ZeRandomizor There was art of the Axolotl in her lair, so absolutely
if only ford had some more screentime in the show then some people would've warmed up to him and something tells me that he should've been better off as an antagonist rather then a another protagonist in the show
I agree to a point. As a Stanley junky, I can safely say that Ford was an antagonist til the end when he woke the bleep up. Ah yes, it took your clearly depressed and remorseful twin brother killing himself to save his family for you to realize you're an aaaa-hooooo. Not to mention, he worked for thirty years and risked the world to get you back home.
Clap clap
Noice...
But seriously, pretty sure that Ford going through the portal was the only reason Stanley was still alive til the twins were born. Something about "A Better World" really makes me uncomfortable. Stanley just took the journal and left with the words you said on his mind? Something tells me Stanley might not be in that world anymore.
And Ford calls it "A Better World"...
I love Ford, but only because Stanley does...
@@airitindeparrotin6018 really? uh okay.
No, he's perfect as a protag
@@gonhunter3994 no he isn't!
@@ryanmatthews3609 nah, Ford is amazing mate
Poor baby he learnt to be strong in the nightmare realm & fight for his life.
Hey
At 17:05 it shows that Ford was shooting multiple lasers from his quantum destabilizer; but why he said that he can shoot only 1 time when he was with Dipper ?
@@dedi621probably because bill had his Physical Form now
I love that gravity falls to me never felt like a kids cartoon.
Have you guys ever done a video on the similarities between Gravity Falls and DuckTales? The reason I'm asking is that I just binged the entirety of DuckTales in preparation for the series finale, and after seeing everything play out in that show essentially all at once, I can't help but to draw parallels between it and Gravity Falls. Both shows focus on identical siblings meeting their great uncle and getting wrapped up in all kinds of dangerous, often supernatural situations and uncovering secrets and mysteries while evil forces conspire against them. I talked about how I thought a crossover special or movie between Gravity Falls and The Owl House would play out, but I can honestly say that I wouldn't mind seeing a Gravity Falls and DuckTales crossover take place. The Pines and company would probably end up crossing into the DuckTales dimension because I honestly can't picture the Ducks as humans. It could work, especially considering we've already seen Stan and Soos' frog counterparts in the form of the Curator and Frog Soos on Amphibia. Just imagining everyone's reactions to the fact that they've turned into anthropomorphic ducks has already got me laughing.
no bro I'm sorry but a gravity falls and Rick and Morty crossover 👌👌👌
It would be cool to see a season worth of episodes (14-20) with Fords time in other dimensions on Disney Plus.
Dude I read this on my Gfalls book :D
Edit: 25 likes 😳 thank you
me too lol
Good for you.
@@snifflypig nice
@@matthewstahl2487 thanks 😊
@@elijahdwaineandalahaw5225 You're welcome.
Holy shit! So that's why Ford punched Stanley!! Everything makes sense!!
Imagine if they made a spin off show where the story is what happened to Ford
I would love a movie of this whole thing
Rick and Fordy's excellent adventure
Wait, so if Bill had a fight with Ford right before he returned to his dimension, why was Bill surprised by Ford's return in The Last Mabelcorn? They were JUST fighting eachother before then. Plothole?
He was just toyin with him
the show had such a good ending and wrapped up so well but I still want a season three.
This is why I think they should make a movie about all of Ford’s adventures from Journal 3.
This honestly makes me respect Ford more and what he had to go through
Haha Ford must have loved Cynn city since he was so smart and good at math
The fact that Rick and Ford were partners is fucking insane.
I need an entire movie about the canonical AU where Ford didn't get shoved in the portal! What happened to Stan?! Do Dipper and Mabel still go to gravity falls for the summer?? Is the tent of telepathy the only major tourist attraction in gravity falls??? Is Pacifica no longer the most popular kid in gravity falls because thanks to the Institute of Oddology, being weird is a more valued trait in gravity falls than being rich and pretty?? THESE ARE THINGS I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!!
If he didnt go to the portal he wouldve maybe either gone crazy or became famous because he would reveal his findings. And he prob become rich and study more and dipper and mabel would prob still visit tho. Stan would prob still be mooching off his brother still though.
(Take a shot everytime i say prob)
Wow, I literally just finished re-watching Gravity Falls last night. Gravity Falls is seriously my favorite show of all time. :)
Ok but can we just take a minute to talk about how smooth that transition into the sponsor add was?
11:51 I bet this is where kakegurui is set
Anime?
Why did soos say he ate nothing but his hat for the last 3 days when his time wish was the infinity pizza🤔
What a coincidence, today me and my sister were whistling the Gravity Falls theme song together
I would love to see a spinoff show exploring his time in the nightmare realm
5:40 wait wait wait wait so your telling me God in gravity falls is an axolotl?
Nice
Yes type bill death massage reversed
I feel like I have to watch this video a couple of times. Not only for the great content but by how it answers so many questions!
Fun fact: The creator of Gravity Falls and the creator of Rick and Morty are good friends
Bill Cipher still being alive sounds like the perfect ploy for Crisis in the Multiverse where many franchises are forced to join forces from DC, Warner Brothers to Disney to stop Bill Cipher. Would be a great crossover if Comcast let's it happen.
9:50 I wasn't expecting Shadow the hedgehog music, but it sure was a pleasant surprise.
This video was amazing! 😳👍🏻
Okay now that makes perfect sense. How you came up with this astounds me.
18:42 but he didn't had enough screentime in the show because disney wanted to rush it
Can't blame it on Disney. Alex was burned out.
@@jameswilson8433 burned out?
@@ryanmatthews3609 He was exhausted. The show suffered constant issues due to its creator Hirsch's lack of experience in running an entire show (he was only 27 years old when it started). By the time the first season wrapped, Hirsch was so exhausted that he seriously considered ending the show right there, leaving it forever on an incredibly tantalizing Cliffhanger. It wasn't until he shared his plans with Jon Stewart, a huge fan who was horrified at the idea, that he decided to press on for another season. The Disney Channel execs weren't very happy about losing one of their most acclaimed shows so soon, and forbade him from revealing the plan to end the show to the public until the season was almost over, spending the entire time in between trying to talk him into continuing it to no avail. When the announcement finally couldn't be put off anymore, Hirsch was a complete stand up guy about it, making clear that the two season run was entirely his own decision and the fans shouldn't blame anyone at Disney for it, and ultimately came out of the experience with a highly acclaimed project he got to end on his own terms, about the happiest ending to the story possible. (Explained from TV Tropes.)
@@jameswilson8433 uh okay but hirsch doesn't know it yet but the only thing he did was well.. delay the inevitable
I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS LETS GOOOOOO
Finally ! I have been waiting sooo long
Moral of the story: Curiosity killed the cat.
Love to see an entire series on Ford journey in nightmare realm, maybe even make it darker for young adults bc obviously bc we're the kids who originally watched Gravity Falls when we were younger that and it is a realm of nightmares.
Dippers mom: what did you do this summer?
Dipper: well-
Mabel: WE FOUGHT UNICORNS AND AN EVIL TRIANGLE NAMED BILL!!! :D
I really miss this show❤️
I'm glad it ended such an awesome way
This is amazing 👍 keep up the good work and keep doing these videos
We need this to be a TV show.
Let's be real, ford is just a kid friendly rick sanchez
Congrats on 1 mill good work keep it up
I wish we could either get this or reverse falls as a series it would be so good
i want a series based on ford a prequel and what he did in portal
Yo! What if they made a spinoff series on Ford's adventures in the portal? I would LIVE to see that!
Season 3 should be story about Ford's life in that realm
That was pretty awesome! Thank you!
Thank you for making this video!! 😍😍😍
He probably got into that mindset because he was told he had the FACE of the hero. When I read that in the book, his attitude and clear irritation at Stan saving him made more sense. He also seemed to realize it before they switched.
This is so good please make another
3:57 wow i never knew that bill cipher is a fan of mr.beast
Wait, now i dont judge Ford for being so rude towards his brother bruh, it makes sense now
Holy fuck this show is way more cooler than I thought
We need a show about this we really do i watched gravity falls... but never finished it thank you all gravity falls videos for making me remember ❤❤❤❤❤ May god bless everyone! Now I’m going to watch gravity falls tommorow I’ll come back here when I’m done!