Turbulence: Reynolds Averaged Navier-Stokes (Part 1, Mass Continuity Equation)

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  • čas přidán 1. 04. 2021
  • One of the most common strategies to model a turbulent fluid flow is to attempt to model the average, or mean flow field, by expanding the velocity field into an average and a fluctuating component. This video introduces this idea of "Reynolds averaging" and shows how to obtain a mass continuity equation for the mean flow.
    Citable link for this video: doi.org/10.52843/cassyni.tcxvxy
    Check out the excellent notes by Lex Smits: profs.sci.univr.it/~zuccher/do...
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Komentáře • 61

  • @enterprixe
    @enterprixe Před 3 lety +105

    Steve, I love your turbulence videos. Just want to point out that I think you missed a "1/T" multiplying the integral when you calculate the mean velocity.

    • @Eigensteve
      @Eigensteve  Před 3 lety +40

      Yikes, you are very right! I am pinning this comment so it is at the top.

    • @arkadii8017
      @arkadii8017 Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly! I also bugged at that moment. If not dimensions of both sides of equation are not the same.

    • @thunder852za
      @thunder852za Před 3 lety +2

      I was worried I was missing something. hehe

    • @erockromulan9329
      @erockromulan9329 Před 2 lety

      Thank you! I thought I was going insane!

  • @karthikchandrasekar484
    @karthikchandrasekar484 Před 3 lety +31

    I am astounded by how fluently you are able to write backwards. Incredible lecture!

    • @oleksiishekhovtsov1564
      @oleksiishekhovtsov1564 Před 3 lety +11

      The video is mirror flipped in post production 😉
      Edit: I just realized Steve is actually left handed... I'm dumb

    • @kamalkumar945
      @kamalkumar945 Před 3 lety +2

      @@oleksiishekhovtsov1564 Thanks ☺☺

    • @user-lq7lg5jt4k
      @user-lq7lg5jt4k Před 3 lety +3

      ​@@oleksiishekhovtsov1564 he's joking come on :)

  • @studyatnight1022
    @studyatnight1022 Před 2 lety +2

    this video should be watched by entire mechanical engineering student who excited in fluid dynamics field. Thank you, SIr!

  • @quaka96
    @quaka96 Před 3 lety +15

    I'm an aerospace engineering student mostly focused on control engineering and I have to say - although I don't pursue any fluid dynamics anymore - you are the best professor I have seen so far. Your style of teaching is absoluty extraordinary. It's good friday, exams are over and here I am watching your videos out of pure curiosity. Your control videos helped me a lot in my studies but this turbulence series isn't even relevant to my studies but it is sooo interesting. Thank you so much for that!!!

  • @michaelmello42
    @michaelmello42 Před 3 lety +21

    I think it's important to let the general audience know that the derivation begins with the non-dimensionalized form of the incompressible Navier-Stokes and continuity equations. Non-dimensionalization of the continuity equation is less of a concern since it retains its original form but the N-S equation may initially confuse those less familiar with the non-dimensionalized form. Thank you for a great series of videos.

    • @ferrari8595
      @ferrari8595 Před 3 lety

      Michael I agree, but still a great video 😍😍

    • @christosvasiliou219
      @christosvasiliou219 Před rokem

      yeah you are right. first we have the implification of reynolds number, that can actually cansel out some terms weather its value is 1, plus the non-dimensiolized navier stoke equation

  • @ricardonunezandrade6106
    @ricardonunezandrade6106 Před 3 lety +2

    I've just finished my Master's and this is so much better than any class I had during graduation some 10 years ago. I wish this was available earlier! This serves not only as a refresher, but your ability to summarize a complex topic in a concise video is remarkable, makes it easier to organize the thought process and keep in mind the important ideas while deriving the equations. Thank you!

  • @adchen1912
    @adchen1912 Před 3 lety

    Hi Steve, your videos about fluid and turbulence in general are so interesting and easy to understand. I have been studying for my turbulence course and your contents help me clarify these concepts a lot. Please keep making more of these awesome videos. Cheers!

  • @SergioHidalgoAero
    @SergioHidalgoAero Před 3 lety

    WHAT have I just seen? is incredible, going right now to the next episode

  • @varshitjain5808
    @varshitjain5808 Před 3 lety

    Steve, I just need to say thank you very much. I just started my thesis on the turbulent boundary layer flow in the Hypersonic regime using a RANS simulation and your videos on Turbulence are really helpful and interesting. I am following these as basically a lecture on RANS as i dont remember anything from when i actually studied them. Thanks a lot

  • @sergeipravosud1848
    @sergeipravosud1848 Před rokem

    One of the best explanation I've ever heard! Thank you for this short and nonetheless informative lecture, Prof. Brunton!

  • @theremin_monkey
    @theremin_monkey Před 3 lety

    I work in applied ML research but come from a fluid dynamics background. You have just reminded me how fun this is and I am going to brush up on my vector calculus. Thank you.

  • @tennisfreak312
    @tennisfreak312 Před 2 lety

    Hi Steve, thanks for all of your CFD videos and how in depth you make them .

  • @DuarteAlbuquerque24
    @DuarteAlbuquerque24 Před 3 lety

    Awaiting for a second part. Great video.

  • @danielhoven570
    @danielhoven570 Před 3 lety +1

    Cant wait for more! Best content on YT

  • @oigxam1
    @oigxam1 Před 3 lety

    Dr. Steve I really love your videos keep explaining this awesome topics

  • @pipertripp
    @pipertripp Před 3 lety

    Really cool. Thanks for the recap at the end. That was very useful. I'm just trying to get the "big ideas" out of this series, so I appreciate that. Fascinating stuff, no doubt and I'm excited for the next installment.
    Well, you gave "zed" and honest go. ;-) I'm sure the international crowd appreciates it.

  • @BorisKorneev
    @BorisKorneev Před 5 měsíci

    Great video! It also would be very interesting to learn about ensemble averaging and URANS models for unsteady flows

  • @BenNBuilds
    @BenNBuilds Před 3 lety

    I love this series! great video

  • @CallOFDutyMVP666
    @CallOFDutyMVP666 Před 3 lety

    Excellent content please keep up the amazing work!

  • @erockromulan9329
    @erockromulan9329 Před 2 lety

    Just finished a MSME and one of the last things I started studying was turbulent flows. Now I am gearing up to write a proposal for a scholarship and will be applying to come study this with you hopefully Fall 2023 as a PhD student! I will have my ducks in a row - I promise!

  • @indianakbar
    @indianakbar Před 2 lety

    this really helps me a lot sir, thank you so much!!

  • @KM-om1hm
    @KM-om1hm Před rokem

    You teach so good that even a 15 year old like me can even understand

  • @elfarouk3306
    @elfarouk3306 Před 2 lety

    your voice make me relaxed

  • @rogelv8td
    @rogelv8td Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the video

  • @deemotion
    @deemotion Před 3 lety +1

    It's was amazing thank you!

  • @firstcommenter202
    @firstcommenter202 Před 3 lety +1

    Mod-06 Lec-35 Derivation of the Reynolds -averaged Navier -Stokes equations

  • @fredsfaction
    @fredsfaction Před 3 lety

    You are the best! Thanks!

  • @souadtahar4012
    @souadtahar4012 Před 2 lety

    I really like it, Thanks a bunch sir

  • @ramanujanbose6785
    @ramanujanbose6785 Před 2 lety

    Steve I follow all of your lectures. Being a mechanical engineer I really got amazed by watching your turbulence lectures. I personally worked with CFD using scientific python and visualization and computation using python and published a couple of research articles. I'm very eager to work under your guidance in the field of CFD and Fluid dynamics using Machine learning specifically simulation and modelling turbulence fluid flow field and explore the mysterious world of turbulence. How should I reach you for further communication?

  • @pinakibhattacharyya7853

    Hello Prof. Burton, could you please mention what sort of accessories one needs to record such excellent lectures..what are you using?

  • @maclarke74
    @maclarke74 Před 3 lety +1

    Steve, can you do a video on moving boundary heat transfer problems?

  • @elarabibabas6928
    @elarabibabas6928 Před 2 lety

    When saying function of x and t , does this mean that flow is only x dependent concerning space ? Because there is a gradient in y direction in the flow profile as you draw it.

  • @sjh7782
    @sjh7782 Před 3 lety +4

    When introducing the time averaged by the integration at the beginning, shouldn't it be normalized by T? i.e., 1/T*(the integral)? Otherwise as T goes to infinity, the integral goes to infinity as well.

  • @mariogalindoq
    @mariogalindoq Před 3 lety +2

    The equation that you wrote at 5:12 for U mean, shouldn't be multiplied by 1/T with T being total integration time?

    • @mariogalindoq
      @mariogalindoq Před 3 lety

      Sorry, I didn't read the comments before writing this one.

  • @saurabhpal9951
    @saurabhpal9951 Před 3 měsíci

    Hello Prof. Steve, can you please clarify my doubt about differentiability of fluctuating velocity term in Reynold's decomposition. It is randomly varying component in space and time ( that's why we are talking about its mean and variance) then how can we define its spatial and temporal derivatives in traditional calculus way?

  • @sahajjain2146
    @sahajjain2146 Před 3 lety

    When you speak of time averages of derivatives, do you meant time averages of spatial derivatives?

  • @haiminghuang1542
    @haiminghuang1542 Před rokem

    When you calculate U bar, the contribution of u'(x,t) is included, right ? Then you add u'(x,t) again. Are you double calculationg u'(x,t)? As I see it, U bar should be the time-invariant term, but the integration is along time domain....So I am confused. Could you please explain it?

  • @maxgh1234
    @maxgh1234 Před 3 lety +2

    8:48: Could someone kindly explain to me why the inequality holds? It seems strangely counter-intuitive for me. Thanks in advance:)

    • @giovanniiacobello2866
      @giovanniiacobello2866 Před 3 lety +3

      Hi Max, just think that overbar is an average so in general the average of the product is not equal to the product of the averages. Simple discrete example: a=[1,3] b=[5,7]. Average a=2…Average b=6 so their product is 12, but instead average ab=(5+21)/2=13

    • @maxgh1234
      @maxgh1234 Před 3 lety

      @@giovanniiacobello2866 oh wow, what a brainfart. Thank you for clarifying:)

  • @vindhiman
    @vindhiman Před 6 měsíci

    May be I am making a mistake but I could not figure out how average of sums is equal to sum of the averages. Instead average of sum is average of the sum of the averages. Let’s say both, u and v, have an average between 0 and 1. The sum can be higher than 1. Whereas if I sum up u and v and then calculate average, it will be below 1. So, bar(u+v) = bar(bar(u) + bar(v))

  • @ponyexprss1
    @ponyexprss1 Před 2 lety

    Not really related to your topic, but as i watched your video, I became mesmerized that for you to write on glass and for me to see it, the letters should be a mirror image. So i started thinking that you are amazing to be able to write in a mirror image. That seems improbable so came up with the thought that the camera is looking at a mirror of you writing on glass.
    Am i right?

    • @CutleryChips
      @CutleryChips Před rokem

      You can flip the video on your computer

  • @Turcian
    @Turcian Před 3 lety +1

    "IT'S GONNA BE A MESS! ... but kind of fun :)"

  • @roderickdewar1064
    @roderickdewar1064 Před rokem

    Okay good

  • @WhenThoughtsConnect
    @WhenThoughtsConnect Před 3 lety

    wow impressive the ability to write backwards

  • @mohamedelaminenehar333

    Wow 😁😁😁

  • @foxyninjaa
    @foxyninjaa Před rokem

    Was sat here thinking how impressive it is he can write backwards, until I realised he probably just flipped the video, I'd like to be wrong though!

  • @liaregulus
    @liaregulus Před 7 měsíci

    where is the rho?