Finding Arthur's Old House In Red Dead Redemption 2 & Who REALLY Murdered His Wife And Son! (RDR2)
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In today’s Red Dead Redemption 2 video - We are attempting to find Arthur's old house that can briefly be seen in one of the trailers and who really his wife, Eliza, and his son, Issac...
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Finding Arthur's Old House In Red Dead Redemption 2 & Who REALLY Murdered His Wife And Son! (RDR2)
Why is no one watching
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I have a hunch. But I honestly think Micha was the one who murdered Arthur's Wife and Child. Everyone has seen how ruthless Micha was, it'd only make sense.
quick answer for everyone this video offered no information on who killed his family
I subbed to you adam
Thank you!
Already knew that Ross is a master clickbaiter
Lol I thought I was alone
Thank ya
This is like one of those essays, where it should be like 200 words but you manage to string it out and make it 2000
Underrated comment lol
Thats literally all this dudes videos
And got nothing
Anyone else just sit on your horse listening to Arthur say “easyy boyy”
lol
BOAAH
Someone's uploaded an entire video of Arthur just talking to his female horse. You're welcome 😁
I did😂
Eaaaasy boooaaaay! I love that.
The problem is, Arthur doesn't have an 'old home'. He lived with Dutch and Hosea since he was like 14. Before that, he was an orphan.
He clearly states that he used to visit Eliza and Isaac. But it's not his home.
I mean, it really depends on how you look at it. Let me elaborate:
-if you consider Arthur's house as his own legittimate property, no, he does not have a home, since the house belonged to Eliza
-if you consider Arthur's house as the place where his girlfriend (they weren't married, but they were involved in a relationship) and his son lived and where he regularly stopped by to stay with them, then technically he did have a home as in a place his family lived
It really is a topic that changes depending on what your vision of it is
@@Momo_Kawashima I don’t remember Arthur saying he and Eliza had romantic feeling for each other, just that he knocked her up. It’s similar to John not really loving Abigail when he knocked her up.
So it’s probably that Arthur doesn’t consider Eliza’s house his home bc he’s not In love with her. Kinda like shared custody
@@paperbag4477 if there wasn't a feeling he wouldn't have kept visiting them till they were ultimately killed, he was a Mr. Noone that coulda just walked away and forgotten about it (and let's remember that till Arthur got tuberculosis he didn't care about pretty much anything, his spiritual development began once he realized "oh shit I'm dying here and there ain't no way of preventing it"). He had some moral obbligations but no legal, and he wouldn't have cared much about neither. The fact that he did care enough to regularly go visit them means that he did care about both his son and his broad
@@Momo_Kawashima I’ve edited my previous response .
Also you can knock a girl up, not love her, but love the son you’ve both made. It’s more common than you think bruh. They’re called baby mommas/daddy’s.
@@paperbag4477 it's never really said in depth, so one can't give an exact answer, but apparently Arthur cared enough for both to spend time all together. Arthur never mentioned visiting "the boy", but visiting both him and his mother. Otherwise he could've just taken his son out and brought him fishing. I grew up in a divorced family, and let me tell you, never once my father had shown the slightest will to share time with me and my ma', sometimes it even seemed like he was eager to start a fight. My theory (cause with such a vague backstory you can't pull out much) is that he did put dough in the oven, realized what he did and shortly after developed feelings for Eliza.
For the John part, the two characters are complete opposites, Arthur may have started developing more a bit before dying, but even at the start of the game it's clear that John's skull is so thick it would deflect a cannonball, John's feelings for Abigail and Jack started to grow well into the story, even if his son was already around for some years he would've risked freezing in snow trying to leave them behind if he got the chance, repeatedly. Arthur, even in his previous mindset, would have had a proto-conscience kicking in instead
He has never been to Ohio, you learn this when Penelope Braithwaite asks him if he’s been there.
good point!
True
Goes to show he has no idea what he’s talking about and just lengthening click baits for views
He was talking about the serial killer and how he goes around killing people in different states.
He literally says he's never been there
1. The scene in the trailer shows the house with a chimney and what looks like an electric pole near a barn/shed and overall the structures just show some pretty midwestern architectural vibes for this time period.
2. There is no broken tree behind the graves. The grass is longer meaning that the land surrounding these graves is not very humid and is drier, maintains suitable moisture, and is pretty much a great farming environment. Long grass also means long roots which is what a lot of farmland in the midwest is known for as it was hard to plow the land do to how "tight" the grass would make the soil, also not causing the type of muddy environment you'd find in the bayou. The bayou is more sustainable to crops like rice, sugar, cotton and citrus trees that thrive in hot, humid weather in much more muddy, nutritious soil. (Rough explanation, but you get it!)
3. The story kind of hints that Eliza and Arthur's son were located more towards the eastern section of the Midwestern states (Illinois, Indiana, Ohio). This can also be drawn from the fact that Duch and Hosea formed their gang in this central area as John was found in Illinois shortly after Arthur and the gang rarely moved before Blackwater. With the exception of Hosea, who only adventured around independently from the gang with Besty. They probably did adventure into the more civilized parts of Eastern United States and Arthur could have fooled around with Eliza and visit every few months, but if those two graves are of Eliza and Isaac the environmental features do not match at all.
4. Also, I do not believe a pretty much single-mother making a waitress "salary" in the 1890s would be able to support a place such as the house in question.
I can see the environment that was shown in the trailer is different than it was shown here, I think Arthur sends her the money every time he have some after a robbery and also we know they had alot of money in blackwater and Arthur I think had 3000? Or 300 I don't remember, I think he is the one who bought the house and made her stay with their son
@@Jasmine-qw9nv Playing through the game multiple times, I honestly can't find where that information is exposed. Do you remember where you found it? I know the game's algorithm is programmed to give different outcomes with certain choices, I feel like I tried most of them, but I could be missing something.
@@briannalake6819 very late but, I believe the other commenter is talking about the conversation with Rains Fall. Arthur mentions how he'd stop by and send money every now and then. I can vouch and say I heard this information in-game as well.
@@myaxoxo I definitely caught that part where Aruther talks to Rain Falls about supporting his family! It pulled on my heartstrings! I meant the exact amount of money was never exposed or that he bought them a house with his money and made Eliza stay home to raise their son. His rhetoric implies that she already had a place where they hooked up and he'd stop by for a few days after his son was born to do right by them, but nothing more.
I think you're right so this isn't Arthur's old home, it would be Eliza's only,
Nevertheless i'm pretty sure her parents or someone lived with her because she was only 19, she couldn't mantain an house and her son otherwise moreover someone buried them
The home from that trailer could be definitely Eliza's.
His house is not in the game because he said he never came so far to the east
More precisely, he said it was a long time since he had gone that far east.
I was saying that too
Yes and he said that he hates Lemoyne and the swamps
Joseph 21 that makes sense why he hates it because it reminds of them
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Violets are Violets
I got clickbaited
So did you
That's where you're wrong kiddo
Doesn't rhyme
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Hahaha its not like this comment is on ever single video he post
It’s true violets aren’t blue they violets
It's sad to hear about the hard life that Arthur endured, it makes you want something more for him in game. Can't imagine my own son dying, would probably kill myself.
Like this 🙁🔫
The real question is what happen to Boadicea Arthur's old horse
It probably died 😔
You mean the one he has at the beinning of the game? Charles has it if you compare both, he called it Taima
@@EduardoMartinez-pd5ix no his horse died before the game. We know thats charles horse from the mission.
@@trey1215 oh I thought he meant Taima
QuantiumTronax Arthur's horse that looks like charles' is Appaloosa the one that is Anthony foremans horse when you rescue Tilly from radleys cabin
You know what I think? I think that it was Dutch who murdered Eliza and Arthur's son. It was taking Arthur's attention away from gang activity. If it continued Arthur would have wanted to stay with her and raise his family. it would have gotten to the point where he could not leave them alone for fear of his past catching up with him and them taking revenge on his family. So he would have wanted to be there to protect them and Dutch couldn't stand there thought of Arthur 'betraying' him like that.
I think Micah killed Arthur’s son and wife
@@elianaloya6049 Micah has only been around for 6 months, I think Eliza dying happened at least 10 years before story mode events.
It was Uncle
Yea that probably is it therws probably hints
maybe eliza and isaac left because of arthur criminal activities , maybe we can see isaac morgan and jack marston in rdr3 together as main protagonist
9:07 that doesn’t sound like Arthur at all
My guess is Eliza was the cut love interest, even though the way Arthur talks about her seems to indicate that she was little more than a one night stand. That seems more likely to me than it being Sadie, Mary Beth or anyone else. If it was her then my guess is those missions would have taken place very early in the game. I would have preferred that over the Mary Linton stuff. If they were going to cut a love interest I wish it had been her.
I liked the Mary Linton stuff
I have a feeling the cut love interest was actually more to do with Sadie Adler
what??? mary linton created a side of arthur we never saw
Clearly its not the House of Arthur Morgan
Arthur Morgan well you should know of all people 😂
Was your home in new Austin
I think Micah killed your girl and son.
Those kids deserves it boy
Dutch van der linde all them year Dutch
I remember in one of earlier missions Arthur claims he never have been to the East that far. And only Hosea is the guy who knows the place a little. I doubt it's an Arthur's house.
I forgot I was still subscribed to this guy
Same i Unsunscribe
Same
Lol
I unsubscribed but his videos keep coming up
Same
I think the scene with arthur walking away from the graves, might be in a future dlc and we will learn more about Arthur backstory and the black water massicare.
Maybe
that scene in trailer #3 arthur was walking in great plains near new austin.
Massacre*
idiot the scene where he walks away from the graves is created by this clickbaiter
mrbossftw: write that down! write that down!
Why does bad things only happen to Arthur 😢😢
Ik bro
John? Sean? Are you serious?
@@notguilty8626 John is a happy guy and has a ranch and a wife and a kid. Thats not bad at all
@@ropatigodinet1987 what about Sean
StayInSchool_YT OFFICIAL Sean died nothing really happened to him
Like how Arthur just brought up his son and one night stand girl, maybe Rockstar just put that in just Incase if they want a pre-quel focusing on Arthur again idk
Nez oh man that would be amazing
Next vid: what happens if Arthur jumps off a cliff
My thoughts exactly lol 😂
But the title might be :" Do never ever jump of this cliff or this will happen " 🤣
Good idea
New dlc thought Arthur’s past
Or you could play as Arthur growing up in RDR3
true
Ted Napier that’s the same as arthurs past 😂
Ted Napier I’ve been thinking about that too since we love arthurt so much then they might make another game of him
@@teddynow that would be cool but i think we should go further in time and play as dutch in the beginning when he formed the vander lind gang and how he met colm and wat happen to Annabelle which the game would have Arthur so it wouldnt be the last we see of him
I'm so happy I got Red Dead Redemption 2
You got but I haven’t
It would be cool if they made a DLC about this
Quite interesting that Arthur never avenged them.He realy believed that revenge is a fools game.John should had taken his advice.
It can't be the serial killer because arthur said that 2 bandits shot them for 10 bucks
Another point to argue against the serial killer having killed Arthur’s son and lady, is that Arthur claimed they were shot and killed.
Serial killers typically kill in a pattern, with traits and in a style that is somewhat unique to them.
In the case of Edmund Lowry Jr., he tortured his victims with bladed weapons, typically flayed them, sawed their bodies into pieces, and then displayed their headless upper body via hanging them by the wrists. Then he would leave their decapitated head somewhere nearby with a message written on the back of a map (a map leading to his killing chamber, almost as if he was daring someone to try and come after him.)
Never ONCE was he known to kill any of his victims with a firearm of any kind. Not only that, but Edmund’s MO was the pursuit of pleasure through murder, not to gain profit.
So, given what Arthur told about the murder of Eliza and Issac, the motive and the means, simply put, do not match the serial killer’s profile in the slightest. So...yeah.
It's not that deep my guy
@@nikobellic2479 yeaa but me 4 years ago thought it was that deep😅
@@RedAngelXV aight
9:10 well… that’s one heck of a low honor ending there.
I noticed u always have a lot of Trolls. Lol. Love your videos!!!
the devil punishes those who wastes everyone's time with unnecessary 10+ minute videos...
FToast 724 personally I click on vids to see how creative the comments are
123 samuraisword7 and that’s about the only thing these videos are good for 😂😂
@@Toastavcoubt ahhh I love seeing children who are new to the Internet.. buckle up kiddo
“I don’t know if Eliza was his wife or if she was just the mother of his son” boy how do you not know she wasn’t his wife, they literally say he’s never been married and that she was just some girl. 😂 this guy’s videos are such a waste of time
You dig so deep into your investigations. Great work
Rains fall is my favorite character for seeming so wise someone you could have really learned some life lessons from
A token of a bygone era
Hell no his missions are so boring
Umm so I was playing red dead 2 and I finished the game I went back to the ranch and then I see Charles there I don’t know if it’s a glitch or what but I’m very confused
Yh i see him sometimes at familly dinner
He visits sometimes, but after a few visits he moves to Canada.
@@randyismael2950 red dead redemption 3 will take place in Canada. Charles will be the main character lol
Same
Dude same I was like What??
He repeatedly says he's never been that far easr, or that far south, so definitely not imo.
You can find plenty of grave sites in game.
I always suspected it could be Micah and his father that killed the son & mom
Me too
The only issue is, some online sources mention that “Eliza Bloom” is the maiden name of Eliza Sinclair, Francis’ mother that the protagonist can meet if they do the rock carving mission
In a newspaper in game it says 11 year reunion of the the killing in leymone or something early in the game
It would make a great dlc to play as aurthur as a young man getting revenge on the killers.
he never got revenge aurthur has always believed revenge is a fools game
really love ur videoa man keep up the gooooooood work...
I like this game a lot because of the Arthur's story......thanks you for do many details.
Was it just me, or where those maps hard to read? I actually discovered the mystery of the serial killer by just stumbling on all the clues 🤷♂️
Same here
It could be Arthur’s house, the houses you can see in the trailer match the ones at that place, and it is possible that he had been there but never to Saint Denis because he says he only visited there for a few days at a time, so he probably never left the homestead and just spent time with his family to avoid being spotted by anyone. He also says he hates this place, and the reason he says this is because it reminds him of his dead child and the mother of his child, he probably didn’t want the rest of the gang to know these things so he said he never went that far south before. The Deer doesn’t seem to be a coincidence either. One of the graves is also significantly smaller than the other, which could represent the child.
What doesn't make sense is, you talk and talk and talk but you don't say anything!
You may be able to confirm it, try going there with bad honor and see if the stage on the mantle becomes a coyote
he was there with low honor so it is not true
Love the videos but on a side note, there wouldn't be a missing person poster for someone that was in fact buried.
So, is this Arthur's old place?
MrBoss: Yesn't
4:41 not often my state gets mentioned. Just wanted to say thanks for not forgetting us 😂
Arthur also said some “bastardS” came through (more then one person) so it couldn’t have been Edmund Lowry jr
Arthur told that Braithwaite chick he’s never been to Ohio lol
There was that little house near Roanoke somewhere that had a woman and boy murdered that had been there for a while.
Shot,looked like the same situation, perhaps a little homage to the story.
Was it just the Murfree Brood all along?
They're pretty ruthless
Arthur telling a tragic story about his dead family
Rains fall in the middle of the story:hold on I think I need some herbs
I spawned hear when loading in I dont know if this means anything but definitely weird as I was back at shady belle befor I quit the game and when I spawned back I was thers
I want to play rdr3 as Isaac looking for Arthur. There’s no actual proof Isaac died. He could have faked his death or something and then years later becomes an outlaw like Arthur then starts looking for him then realised he’s dead but then finds the old gang members and all. It would be cool.
Like Michael De Santa
*4:41* when he talked to Penelope he specifically stated he’d never been to Ohio
*7:15* Although Eliza wasn’t missing ever. She was found by the authorities with Issac when she died and was never missing
It was Dutch, he saw Arthur's wife and son as a distraction for him, he wanted Arthur's only family to be the gang
actualy great theory
I don't know...
Two videos in a day
Aidan’s Life, dude he’s made 4 videos in 1 day
Great vid😜
In the trailer Arthur is walking behind the Blackwater cemetery and the crosses are Isaac and Eliza so it can be in GreatPlains but it is close to city so it can’t be in greatplains.
Should've looked at the channel name before clicking.
Deer: *exists* mrbossftw: *It iS aRtHuR*
Haha
No one:
Mrbossftw: u l t i m a t e l y
i think if the house was that house that he used to live in, and it’s in the state of Lemoyne, my guess is it was the lemoyne raiders.
If Eliza was murdered and buried at her house, why would there be a missing poster for her?
I agree. This part of the story was sort of an afterthought story that they never thought would be anything. Now we all want to know.
you right
Wouldnt it be cool if in RDR3 you play as someone in the Blackwater massacre but isnt in the Van der linde gang
Those graves look awfully fresh
The Eliza on the missing poster was seen at valentine and the way Arthur acts he had never been there before the gang goes there
Hold on, I need to pick some herbs.
Love you
I've wondered what Arthur's house looked like and who killed his family.
Trayton Vanderecken it’s not actually his house
Every time i watch one of your videos i feel that my time is wasted
Imagine the ending when Arthur dies like a short video where Arthur's ghost is walking to the home and they are waiting for him
Best part of the video is at 11:33
Thanks 👍
Because the replay button is there?
The two graves, one looking perfect (because it's recent) and the other is falling apart (because it's older) can't be his wife and son! They died together and were buried at the same time. Those two graves aren't theirs!
I thought when Arthur was dying it was Edmund making those sounds before laughing
Arthur origin story! That would be a bad ass game
Most likely, Arthur had already managed to find them. How else would he have known that it was all for $10? His wife and kid weren't able to tell him. Arthur must have been told... presumably the only person(s) who could've told him are the culprits.
That makes sense
But I don't think Arthur would let them get away with that
@@unknownguy1727 revenge is a luxury he can't afford
Just for $10...WHY
back in the Wild West it was $295.33
Yeah I know people that’ll stab you for $20 and your shoes.... in 2019
50$ was 2k so 10$ was about 200 something
$10 was a lot of money in the 1800’s. People were buying in cents back then. Though it still didn’t make it right to kill Eliza and Issac. I don’t know if Arthur ever specified how many burglars there might of been, but I think there were 2. And this might sound crazy, but I think Joe and Cleet were responsible for the loss of Eliza and Issac. If those 2 are willing to start a gang with Micah, then they are definitely willing to rob some poor woman’s home to make a quick buck.
Erik Allen except Micah and his henchmen probably didn’t know Arthur at that time.
Dude the picture on the wanted poster for Elisa Bloom is the same picture as the one in Arthur’s “tent” at the gang camp on the nightstand
You have to think though, regarding how he'd never seen a big city before, that when all that had happened Saint Denis may not have been a big city at the time. It might not have been so developed by then. You also don't know how long ago it was compared to Arthur's age now (which I'm not exactly sure of his age in RDR2, personally), so it still could be that house given that information. I also realize this video is a year old but I just stumbled upon the channel/videos. lol
nope they said multiple time they never went that far east. wrong
I’ve seen the graves that are in the trailer in the game cuz I came across them I just don’t remember where 🤦🏽♂️
OOF
Who else loves rdr2 and loves visiting these videos in case they've missed anything 😍
Anyone else see the faces in the sand of the graves or am I just re-kindling leftovers from my trip👽🤣🤣?
Anyone knows the name of the song it plays after Arthur rides back when arriving back from guarmo
Outlaws for life
Unshaken
I Feel So Bad For Arthur First His Wife and Son Died Then He Died Of Tuberculosis 😭
At least Arthur can be with his family 😓
Blue Assassin True 😔
It would be good if they showed Arthur's wife and son coming for him when he dies
It’s not real u dumb fool
jax0259 Yeah
Interesting video Mr boss
Although it says Hagen orchard
Arthur was not a farmer before
I feel one of the Laramie May of been the perpetrator of the murder of his wife and son
I like the idea of going furthur back and playing as one or both of the Callender brothers starting furthur out west in some new states or territories leading up to the blackwater massacre and why they were so far east to begin with.
Maybe they could elaborate on some of these things it seems like the gang mostly ran around out west before moving or being pushed east.
possible story line: Arthur has to get revenge/"redemption" for his wife and son
Dutch Plan Der Linde - undead nightmare 2 with a zombie Arthur
Why would you care Dutch ?.
**lives in ohio and got shook when ohio was mentioned**
They should make a rdr3 that's about author and issac and elysia and you get to live his life then after a while when you finish you get an option to become issac or elysia
Maybe the house is close to new austin or blackwater as blackwater is like a prarie which is what we see in the trailer
Roses are red
Violet are blue
I got clickbaited
Just like you
Great info!! Keep up the good work!!
If you talk to charlotte up past annesburg she asks if arthur has been to chicago. He says "for banking" so maybe he couldve met them there
We're going back and back in time if we keep talking about aurthers past
I have a theory of who killed his family and you've already seen them been exacuted and had a hand in there deaths are you ready for this it's the montaz brothers 😀🎉🎉🎉 remember that mission
What chapter and location to on can this be found?
Just saying that I live in the northeast and there is a connection of streets called lemoyne
that means nothing
Your point?
It Louisiana and something mixed in the south not in northeast
I think its funny how arthur didn't even try to fight back when you don't throw the skull
Look at the background from the two crosses photo to me it looks like the great plains so somewhere around Blackwater
Mr.boss you’re impressive,how can you find all these informations.Really I am impressed.
The future is Tron So who’s video did he steal this content from exactly?
Assassin_8881 Reddit! All the answers are on Reddit!
@@BladeDaRazor Just because Reddit has alot of info doesn't mean all of it is from Reddit
he reads the reddeadmysteries subreddit
JmanGaming Channel you’re right