What are the Best Tattooing Voltage Parameters?
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- In this video Gaston from FK Irons will go over the myths and facts regarding voltage for the different tasks such as lining, shading and color.
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this shows the lvl of service and conetivity that you guys have with the customers. i was asking this exact question yestersday everning and now you guys made a video already =) and thanks i will give it time and figure the machine and get most out of it.
thanks again Don Gaston un gran saldo para usted y toda la familia de FK Irons =)
I think this is the reason your machines work and feel the way they are ..!!! Because you and probably most of the pro team understands that there is no right "anything" ... I can never stress enough about that... you hear these questions all the time ... what is the best machine, ink, needle and so on for a specific job...? well there's no such thing, if there was, everybody would only use that... theres different things for every different individual, style, technique, skin or effect you want to achieve... Testing yourself, and trying different things untill u get where you want is the only way.... i know it takes time, effort and probably finances, but then again the result will definetly worth it... when u see yourself knowing all these stuff and how to achieve all these effects ... Thanks for the video and thank you for what you represent in the trade !!! Too bad your on the other side of the world... would've loved to meet you and the team !!!
theres nothing kind in what i said :D just an observation as of why you guys are doing such a great job... yea i know you do with some occasions ... will try and follow where you guys go and try and attend those conventions aswell... if you have a like a schedule or something it would be great.. since i would need to know atleast a couple of months ahead so i could avoid bookings in that specific period of time !!
I was posted up next to some one at convention who was also using the edgeX and I asked him what voltage he ran his machine at, and he gave me a different number for every cart size he used.
I, on the other hand, use the same voltage for lining and shading and just adjust my hand speed to accommodate that.
I agree with gaston here, that it's important for you to find what works for you, and unfortunately there isn't a blanket answer for everyone.
I recently moved to rotary and asked myself the same question, to find the answer I drew a load of squares on a practice skin and started down at 5 volts lined the first one then moved up a bolt each square until I found my hand speed is suited to 8.5 volts for lining I then went back and did the squares again with a 7 magnum and noticed I got smooth blends at 6 volts that's how I came across my baseline voltages
Edit: with a coil machine I line at 120-130 cps and shade at 90-100 cps I don't know if this helps anybody
I also run my coil machines liner from 120 to 135 and shaders from 90 to 100 maybe 115 when packing
My real question is why doesn't anybody ever talk about how much Amps, the Duty, or the STL to run smoothly and perfectly if anybody has the answer would gladly appreciate it.
Thanks for your time
@@miltoncruz8022 I don’t even do any of the stuff I said in that initial comment I wrote 11 months ago since then I have been shown how to set my machines up by ear by an old traditional artist and honestly since I’ve stopped worrying about the numbers my machines run better and I tattoo better
Can someone please give this newbie a solid answer why am I reading that coil machines need a higher voltage for shading vs lining and you guys are saying the opposite? Also rotary pens should be the opposite higher for lining and lower for shading idk whg
@@Kingf3arless coil machines need whatever voltage they need it is not set in stone from one machine to the next, just slowly raise your voltage until the machine stops making a weak crackly sound and is producing a steady hum and that is the voltage it needs the numbers are irrelevant, also that cps I was mentioning was the speed of the machine not the voltage
I have many pieces of art by others, I feel I’m very hygienic, I know I’m very hygienic, I have no desire to work on others, I would like to work on myself only, you have a great way of getting across all of the finer points without judgment. So thank you and I shall be following your guidance to understand the bigger picture
absolutely correct! Color Effects; fading, solid & crispy. to achieve their particular settings are each required an amount pierce per second & adding amount softness of give. Volts amount will less or increase the amount pierce per second & the amount hit force impact. by applying Give will soften the hit impact on much amount pierce result for crispy color that doesn't damaging the skin. "its great video!"
Really a great point. Everyone’s skin is different, unlike the pad of Bristol board where every sheet is going to be the same to work with. Kudos.
Just bought a Galaxy III with power liner settings I as usually work with solid and fat lining; this video might a little bit understanding how to find my own path properly, thanks mate !
I also run my coil machines liner from 120 to 135 and shaders from 90 to 100 maybe 115 when packing
My real question is why doesn't anybody ever talk about how much Amps, the Duty (Sometimes I hear Duty on coils should never pass 45 or 50 Duty , my machine run duty from 55 to 70 the most. Running from 6 to 7.5 depends the jobs and size neddles im moving or area etc. )or the STL to run smoothly and perfectly if anybody has the answer would gladly appreciate it.
Thanks for your time and great video hands down
I didn't hear or get no kinda answer. I was hoping for some kind of direction. But noooooo he gave me as much knowledge as I had before the video. Thanks
After watching this video my theory has been pretty openly proven, essentially the voltage on the tattoo gun is the tattoo artist version of the knife shape/weight for a chef.
Each chef uses a knife that is perfectly weighted for them and its often sharpened in a specific way as well.
Easily my best way to compare as chef is my job I was just trying to study up a bit on tattoo things to assist my fiancé who is a beginner tattoo artist and painter so I could help her understand more easily :)
much needed for an aspiring artist such as myself. thank you 💕
wow i understand naw finally sumone was able to explain this to me lol 😂 i huess i gota find my sweet spot i rum my voltage at 8.5 and shaders at 6 or 7
Jhonn G I’ve heard liners ud want to stay at 5 and bigger needles like shaders need more volts to adjust pushing the bigger needles, how does that sound to you?
I was running my shit at like 18 volts lolololol
@@djyond3rr wtf!! Lol
Good, underrated video. Thank you my guy.
Well there’s general speeds that have to correlate together in order to achieve certain styles so there has to be a general volt for small medium large and xl size mags and liners
I love these videos. I look forward to more. Also the end of the year is approaching, in your lining video you mentioned your Cartridges will be released soon......can't wait
thank you . Stay tune here and on social media!
what nationality are you Gaston ? Also love to see you not holding back anymore and speaking freely. Your info and thoughts are priceless to artists like me. Always had allot of respect for you from day one. Thanks for taking the time to do this, truely a builder who cares about his customers and I will always respect that.
Thanks alot, this is by far the best video on the subject, i just started really getting to learn the fundamentals of the must know, and ik ive been haveing those exact questions myself, which now i feel as if that question has been fully discovered. Ty1
So for cleaner lines in a script lettering tattoo, do you recommend lowering the voltage or do i stay on the higher side? What has worked good for u
What’s the good voltage for liner and shader ..?
very nice, you should just add some "text" during the video, when you give the voltage and other stuff it should appear for a better understanding
FK Irons u'R the best!
it was a stress free lesson most people make videos on here an try to make you watch it cuss you out on the video an they don't even know what they talking about wrong advice on the subject, so this was a better, an helpful video make more
Very very good!! Advise... maube the best ive seen on youtube!!
Always giving great advice 👍🏼
Hola amigos! buenos videos , podrian colocar subtitulos en español a los videos ??? seria el hombre mas feliz del mundoo!! muchas gracias!!!!! saludos muy buenas maquinas!!! SAludos FKIRONS family!!
Love ur stuff dude!!! Keep on keepin on!!!🔥🤘🏼much respect all the way from West Africa 🤙🏽
Is voltage universal no matter what machine you’re using? Like if I’m using a certain rotary pen, and I like 6v for lining .. say I get a new machine would the needle go just as fast in this new machine as it did in the old machine if I set it to 6v? Idk if this question even makes sense since I’m new to tattooing lmao just curious if you can expect similar results in different machines using the same voltage
Yup I just learned that my lining go for 6v and my shading go for 5v its all different and it changes everytime you need to figure it out
lol it feels so weird for me ,i line at 9v
Almondbray Mejia I line with 7.5
I line with 8
I line @ 7.2
thanks FK iron for tips😊😊😊
Such a great answer thanks!!
niceeee i just picked up the critical gx1 so i cant wait to use it
Great break down I been ask the same question a number of times.
Thank you
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Great video. Hello man. Buy the Spektra Edge x, I have no autoclave, so I'll use the disposable grip with cartridge needles Cheyenne, my question is ... can the driver bar become contaminated? Could you clean only chemicals? Any suggestions? I'm sorry I'm new at this. Thank you :)
Wath IS the voltage for exactor 3 for paker?
I still a lil confused as to which do I adjust if I'm shadding I usually set my power pack to around 9 from there do I adjust the screw on the machine to go up or down I'm speed or do I leave the screw and turn the power supply down instead this is where I'm a bit confused thanks
Thank you for your great advices
Agradecería un monton que este lo repitieras en español . Tengo una stigma beast v2 y no se si comprarme otra igual o comprarme una vuestra y los voltajes para línea , sombra y rellenado me interesan aparte de las temperaturas del motor en trabajos largos , yo tengo de 10w el motor . Muchas gracias por todo y perdón por las molestias .
Not helpful at all, he could of explained the theory of high vs low voltage for shading and lining. So basically "don't ask me and figure it out yourself"
Dude you just said you can't help give a voltage after making a video about voltage. Thanks for the advice mmmbud..
Sorry Mr Gaston for this question that many people find annoying but can you please provide examples in terms of CPS ?
Omas Samo I agree a document with CPS with different cams and different voltages would be awesome for a baseline. I’m sure with today’s technology I could figure it out on my own. It would be awesome to have a CPS for each cam for every .5v or even 1 in the normal operating range. Let’s say 6 -12.
Thanks for the info bro 👍🏽
What in your opinion would you set the voltage on a hurricane power supply for lining,no instructions please help!
Derek Bermingham if you need an instruction manual with your power supply to tell you what voltage to set your machine at , you should really really really take a step back and re learn your fundamentals before ever putting a needle into someone’s skin. Tattoo machines don’t come rite instructions. 🤦🏼♂️
Thanks man! Good machines by the way! ;)
Why can’t I find the CPS or Stitch Count at max voltage on spektra edge? I’d like to match my voltage based on this info to where I was running my CPS on my coil machine. Thank you
holaa, para cuando XION en español !!! abrazo dani de palermo buenos Aires !!
tengo una halo2 y una direkt2 que le compre a tu hermano q me envió desde Rosario, son maquinas super pro y super eficientes y confiables, me encantaría ya que se sos argentino hagas videos en español.
everybody should feel the voltage by himself I think :) good video again hohoho :) thanks
Amazing!!
Im curious about the CPS of the xion through its different voltage parameters..? Can this information be made available or can I find it somewhere? I am having trouble gauging it. It bounces around on my powersupply that normally reads these things.
thanks...
Hi Hello can u help me pls I'm beginner.... what do u think wich stroke is better for shading 4mm or 3.5 and for color packing
Well most the vids on correct voltage on youtube dont give you an answer. If i can
help anyone out here then id say ive been advised by tattoo artists to use 6 volts for lining, and 7 for shading and colour work. I personally use 9 volts for both, i just find with the voltage turned up you get a better mark on the skin when your passing a line or doing tight circles for colour or shading.
DINOROCKS I run my liners at around 9 as well. I run a Mickey Sharpz and push usually between 5rl-8rl black and grey . I run most of my stuff at around 9and light shade at around 7 . When I started I always heard “7.5 - 8 “ and that’s just too slow for what I like to do . It’s good to have a rough idea . But tuning is going to always be personal preference really . Although there IS such thing as “too much” if your machine is getting too hot .
And cartridges , omg ! Annnooooying . The ones I’ve used have a tough spring and I’ve had them break off before from having to over push them . I can stand cartridge systems ( on a coil machine at least ) . I’m sure they’re good for some . But I can’t get used to them at all. Haha . I’ll stick to the “ old ways “
@@freddude1493 Dude dont you think that 9 volts leaves a better mark than say 6? I started out on a low voltage and the lining was just leaving faded marks.
DINOROCKS the voltage doesn’t really make that big of a difference , besides just getting the machine to move the way you want it to . It’s more the tuning . How the throw is and how hard it’s hitting . I set my needles at a really long stroke and then just know how deep to tattoo just from feel and experience. If the lines are fading you’re either not hitting hard enough or not going deep enough. Or not stretching the skin properly and the skin is moving with the needle . There are a lot of factors . But yea , turning up the voltage IS one of them . But if the machine isn’t tuned properly that will eventually just hit a plateau of useful change and just over heat the machine . It’s a combination of speed , impact , stroke . Stretch and speed of actual hand movement . If the machine is tuned well, you should be able to line at a low voltage . But you’ll know if it’s too low because it will just bog out and not push anymore .
@@freddude1493 Thanks for the info.. My machines are professionally tuned, so should do the job..I still need to practice with the depth as ive mainly been tattooing on myself and it stings so i tend to go in less, maybe thats the issue.
One question what are the Neddels u use for color .
saludos desde Cuba bro
Does voltage variety from machine to machine? Would 7 volts on one power supply feel weaker or stronger compared to another power supply?
In technical speaking. Volts are all measured and dispersed the same in every machine. Typical new age wireless rotary machines usually instantly stop after the machine isn’t able to run that voltage you have it set too anymore. It would technically be false advertising if they say a machine run 12 volts and they test it and it doesn’t. It’s all the same
Also you wont have to worry about charging batteries with a power supply. That’s the actual difference between wireless and wired
Well there!!! Lol best answer I ve heard ❤️
Omg your English is perfect
where can you get that tattoo machine the one in front of you
awesome.
It's simple iv just finished cleaning my tattoo kit shading just done on both arm s if you put tattoo machine maximum voltage would shred your arm up say like 18 volts never go this high me I keep shading speed around 7. 5 to 8.6 lining you can adjust plus re go over your lines really eazy when I first started years ago I red info then watch tattoo video s then bought everything tattoo carbon machine all what you see tattoo shops use the only difference s is am unlimited because I can print do any design s I want linings eazy shading is what makes tattoo look cool plus if you no how to make the ink thinner I do for light shading mixing certain different colours best thing to do is self learn you self I did to while setting tattoo machine up eazy don't forget rubber band for tattoo machine go's around top end of to keep needle stops it wobbling i the metal tube some tattoo guys don't use rubber band some do read understand and your your own tattoo ist after you have red Learn how to do everything then you can practice on pig skin I had this but I dint use iv got steady hand that's main thing when comes to doing tattoo s Eazy said An Done
Is that possible for a tattoo artist to tattoo at 5 volts ? What can it do to the tattoo ? Lasts not as long as a 10-12?
Its not about the volts its based on how your machine runs. Some you may need to increase or decrease volts to get the right setting for the machine to sound right.
OMG thank you!!!!!!!!!!
Our pleasure!
I wanna buy a rotary. What's the best one for shading?
Probably Spektra XionS or Spektra EdgeX
Jew the man bato !!! Thanks for all the info bro
Sería bueno más videos en español por favor...
12v all day long, set machines to run at that, you never have to touch your power supply ever again therefore the less stuff you touch when tattooing the less the chance of cross contamination etc. And if the power goes out straight onto a car battery and away you go. 😉
Same here. 12v
um this will fuk skin up!!!!!!!!!! on some machines maybe but not all so please people do not go by this, learn you're machine , do not assume this is good for yours.
debería tener por lo menos una buena subtitulación en español para los latinos q cuentan con estos productos y quieren saber más por q no e visto el primer vídeo en español
i use 9 for lining and shading at 10volts and still not good.. 😀
Holy shit!! Your doing some damage then
How do I get ahold of you
can a rotary motor handle 12 volts ?
12 VOLTS GD THATS WHY THEY NEED TO KEEP THE TRADE TO TATTOOIST..YOUR NOT TATTOOING YOUR STRAIGHT EATIN A M/F UP.. AND THINK YOUR USEING A ROTARY AT 12 VOLTS !! IT'S THESE DAMN ROTARY USEIN ASS JITTERBUGS DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING BOUT TATTOOING..YALL USE ROTARY BECAUSE IT'S EASY JUST PLUG IT N AND FUCK EM UP..ITS CALLED APRINTASHIP IT'S LONG ITS HARD SUPPOST TO B SECRETE FOR THIS VERY REASON RIGHT HERE...
@@brianleboeuf8148 crawl back into your cave you fucking knuckle dragger
@@jwilsonfaceget a apprenticeship
Looking this up is a waste of time. Cause at the end its all the same info most of the time... WHATEVER FEELS COMFORTABLE TO YOU AND DO YOUR LINES COME OUT CRISP AT THAT VOLTAGE?. .. ima shoot some info from a beginner myself.. start at 4v and move up see how your hand speed feels and get use to the vibration.. pay attention to what speed feels good for lining for your self.. and change VOLTAGE as needed .. also rap that bby up good so you don't feel as much vibration
thanks so much for your lesson. ......+255
You are welcome
Por favor por lo menos colocar subtutulos,tienes muchos seguidores de habla ispana y ni nos enteramos ,👍🇨🇺
Nice..i got vids up
So basically you’re not going to tell us
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What was the point of this vid I learned nothing
Joe Same, I wish I could dislike a video twice lol.
You said start really low voltage. So how Low?? Be precise give us a number. Thanks man😊
4.5 volts
I appreciate the great information here. But the title to the video is a bit misleading. I’m trying to figure out the best voltage for shading, and I realize it’s different for different people and different styles of shading, but when I search for a specific thing and watch a video like this it’s a waste of my time.
Well, it's sad to say it but unfortunately you didn't add a single bit of knowledge to my understanding of the tattoo world with this video... the things you said are just common sense, nothing new, it is the same bla bla bla that doesn't contribute actually to anything. You are pretty much right when you say that there isn't a "single" "perfect" set up that would work for everyone. However you could have spoken about "ranges" of voltage that wouldn't sound too crazy when doing for exemple lines on thick vs. thin skin. Like that, even though it is not a precise answer at least the beginner doesn't start applying, for exemple, 10 volts where you only need 5.... You need to understand that mostly people with little knowledge will watch this video in the search for at least an idea on where to start...
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the most assuming person gaston
Thanks for nothing
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