Forget The 911! The Porsche 928 Is Peak Porsche Sports Car! (1979 4.5 V8 Road Test)
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The Porsche 928 was a V8 GT, destined to replace the iconic air-cooled 911 when Porsche felt the Beetle-derived sports car had run its course. Sporting a purpose-built 4.5-litre V8 in the form of the M28, as well as passive rear-wheel steering, polyurethane bumpers and futuristic aerodynamic styling, the 928 was undoubtedly cutting-edge and had performance to scare Mercedes, Jaguar and its 911 stablemate! The transaxle layout allowed for four seats and a big boot, helping it earn the European Car of The Year 1978, a first for an exotic sports car! Now, 45 tears on from release, is the 928 the perfect classic Porsche?
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I really enjoy the videos you create on this channel, it's become one of my favourite channels to watch. Phil and Joe are really good Infront of the camera. Well done guys!
Thanks Matt, that means a lot! -Phil & Joe
I’m an ex-Porsche technician, believe me when I say that the 911 is complete rubbish compared to the 928. Ancient body architecture that is full of rust traps, engines that leak oil like sieves and need full rebuilds before 100k miles, 915 gearboxes that won’t change gear, archaic wiring loom, the list is endless.
The 928 is even today the best built Porsche ever, buy one before we go six feet under.
Ps. Please tell the owner to replace that awful single tailpipe rear silencer, it needs the original double tailpipes
Don't 928's have their own issues though?
@@matthewchannel9981 Compared to 911’s, they’re minor, cambelt and water pump every 4 years, is the only real issue. Apart from that anything else is minor, parts though are more expensive for the 928.
@@arthurdardalis don't they suffer from electrical faults?
@@matthewchannel9981 if the wiring hasn’t been butchered by add-on alarm systems, they’re fine. All the circuits are controlled by separate fuses and relays. Very reliable. The only “issue” is that the cowl panel drains have to be kept clear of leaves etc, otherwise water will enter the car, possibly getting the lower line of relays wet
@@arthurdardalis thanks, that's really helpful 👍
One of the best cars ever made.
I've owned two.
Lucky man!
The Porsche 928.... The best of all time...
Still have my 1984!!!!
Porsche there is no substitute
I loved the 928 when it was first launched and love it just as much today. Upset to hear it’s every bit as good to drive as I’d hoped because good ones are now out of my reach financially. Beautiful beast 🥰
I have a 5-speed 89 S4. Manual wasn't only for GTs that year. But I agree, after three 911s, "what a car, what a car."
Hands down, no regrets - still my all time favorite Porsche and one of my bucket list/must have dream cars to this day!
Easily on my top 5 all time favourite cars. If I could afford one I'd take this over anything in Porsches current range. Nothing wrong with the current range though!
Utterly gorgeous - and still (to my eyes) looking modern!
You must love soap bars.
They tried to replace the 911 with a GT car, when all they had to do was wait 30yrs for the 911 to evolve into a GT car. Now Boxster/Cayman's fill that role.
You may be right…the 911 replaced the 928 as a GT due to its increase in size and luxury…though I would like to see Porsche make a 2-door Panamera V8, and call it the 928 Panamera GT.
Of course you can say that now 30 years later 😂
@@gerardmcmillan8591 yes, isn't hindsight a wonderful thing 🙄
I was lucky to own a 928 and a 911 Turbo Targa.The 928 was a much better cruiser.The 911 was very fast but tried to kill me many times.
I always liked the 928 more then the 911 cars. I know they make really good cars these days but to me at least it just feels like they churn out the same car each time.
I had a 1982 manual 928 in 1998, kept it for about 8yrs and it never missed a beat. Very comfortable, heavy on fuel but a great GT car, I loved it.
Very nice!
The only (road going) Porsche that I have really admired, desired.
I have owned 5 different Porsches through the years including this one. It was all black and in my opinion the finest of the lot. I had the stick shift, a 5 speed if I recollect, and that V8 was unbelievably good. Road handling and run experience was top drawer all around. I still regret getting rid of it, but that's what I do - always turned by the next pretty head that walks through the door. My current ride is a Lexus LC500. It's a really fun car too - a naturally aspirated V8. FUN!
Love the 928 ! To employ an overused word: ... "iconic" ...
I've always loved these cars. As much as I love the 911 this is the model I'd want to own.
Totally agree Phil - what a fantastic motor !! If I had one, I don't think I could ever sell it 😀
Couldn't agree more!
No wonder Tony Montana bought one. It is brilliant. And I'd you ask Jeremy Clarkson very fast when you need it
Love the 928 and it would have been a mighty successor to the 911 if only the continued it’s progression as they ended up doing to the 911. Thanks for sharing
they did update 928 for years but 911 is still the wankers choice as its sexier
One of my all time favourite cars
Nice review Phil, i enjoyed it. Also has a model as a kid and loved the styling. Especially these early models.
Glad you enjoyed it!
My father owned S3 us version of 1985. I owned one of last GTS of 1995 buy with less of 5000 miles. Both in auto gear
Thanks for reviewing the 928. A mighty car but they do require specialist maintenance otherwise they suffer badly.
The Porsche specialist in my area highly recommendeds that I do not get a 928. He dreads working on them.
@@bigmacdaddy1234what specifically does he dread? The electrics?
@@matthewchannel9981 Yes. He showed me the fuse box on a 928 and it was a total nightmare. Tracing down electrical gremlins is very difficult and requires taking the car apart & following the harness from front to back. He also showed me burned cathodes and resisters etc..and said that was also hard to deal with. Customers do not want to pay his hourly rate to "try to find the problem" and chase down electrical headaches. So he tells his customers to stay away from 928's.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 I've fancied one of these as they tick so many boxes but that aspect of them has always put me off. Interesting even the specialist warned you off them. A Porsche specialist also warned me off a gen 1, 997. Says he refuses to sell them because of their bore scoring issues.
@@matthewchannel9981 Nothing is worse than old car that no mechanic wants to touch. Walk away from it.
18 years is a long run for a car.
It's easy to see why it didn't replace the 911 as it was intended. It wasn't aimed at the same type of buyer since it was so different.
My real-world car of choice from Stuttgart. No mention of values throughout the range today?...
the taillights and wheels like in 3:20 look best on the 928. if i had the money, i would buy the 928 with the biggest HP, the 928 GTS.
Ooh nice choice!
@@ClassicsWorldUK yes, although lookswise i like the 968 a bit more, it looks a bit rounder and a bit more modern, it has same HP. the 968 in shiny intense babyblue with red taillights and those wheels like that 928 GTS in your video. i think those are the nicest cars Porsche made.
911's are crap to drive on a day to day basis. 928 is superior in almost every single way besides a few seconds on the track. I'd rather 8 out front than 6 in the rear ;)
I have both, I like the 928 for cruising, its never a sports car though its a grand tourer
The 928 is almost certainly my favorite Porsche, especially the '83-'86 S version. I didn't care for the rounded-off design from '87 onward.
Excellent video 🚗🚙🚘⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
Registration plate colour scheme is wrong.
Should be on black-on-white plates at the front and black-on-yellow at the back.
Hi, I'm the owner. I had to laugh at this one. It came with the correct plates (yellow/white), but the black plates are legal on pre-1980 cars (even though "period incorrect" after 1973). I'm kind of a "period correct" person, but the black plates just really went with the red w/black and white pasha (and also signal "historic vehicle"). I kept the plates it came with (not originals... if it had those I would have kept them on) and they are pretty easy to switch back.
@@adamkravitz6721
I did know that they're not illegal on pre-'80 cars but that's only a recent allowance due to DVLA screwing up by linking the permission of silver-on-black plates with the rolling 40-year tax-free historic vehicle status. It took them 7 years to realise and haven't forced people who have cars registered between '73 and '80 to go back to the colour scheme that they were issued with.
Your car, your choice, of course but I can't see the point of going down the originality route but then having over-retro plates. Maybe you could go for white-wall cross-ply tyres too ? 😆
Manufactures were dropping the silver-on-black plates years before the 1973 cut-off; there's a 1970 Ford brochure with the new colour scheme plates on.
You failed to test its submersible qualities.... There is no substitute... 😎
The 928 wasn't replacing the 911. It was just an addition to the lineup to appeal to a different consumer base. The market trend was more interested in GT cars.
Feel better?? 🐑 gotta comment
@bob-a-louannamaria7960 You got so hurt by my comment you had to reply. That's some sheep stuff right there. Lol!!
Dance puppet!
Electrics are complex for the time&cost of repairs obviously scrapped quite a few
Maintenance is a nightmare and costly. Timing belts especially. Not for intermediate elbow greasers.
lol just tell us you’ve not worked on anything. It’s no more complicated than any modern car. People like you love to talk about things you know very little about
Seem like truly great cars, but 12ft timing belts that have to be installed by the equivalent of a timing belt surgeon with all manner of pre tensioning devices is a bit off putting.
That is what people who do not know would say. I am a general do ityourselfer and there is no magic to changing the 928s cambelt. It is long yes but follow the manual and it is no issue.
If owners of the 928 just took care of it as Porsche intended these rumors would not exist.
The 928 is a technical masterpiece and extremely well designed.
I'm not a Porsche guy at all but l do like the 928. A very muscular car. I also like the early Panamera.
911's.......meh!
You guys gotta keep the WEF away or you' all be on bikes!
Nope. Weak electronics have many Porsche mechanics avoiding 928 altogether. Magical v8, gotta have manual as automatic of time is a dud, total drag on engine. First turn you make, Porsche steering yes but oh the weight. Just go but a Jag XKR instead, yes, really
LOL 😂 this car weighed just over 3100 lbs. A new Mustang for example weighs almost 3800. That’s 7-0-0 pounds! I have zero interest in adding power to a vehicle that weighs nearly 2 tons. Then you recommend a Jag designed 30 years after the 928 that doesn’t have a manual option?! Lol zero people are coming to you for advice buddy
@@928pcar Both coupes, v8, rwd, and nearly every 928 is an automatic. Same place in a bell curve…
@@computerhelpcc nearly 80% of early 928’s are manual
@@928pcar NOT in USA. Don’t know one 928 owner with a pristine example that doesn’t have yet another problem to handle. Just not worth it. Yes, they were epic in first 10 years after build date. and nowadays, give up and goto superior hardware elsewhere…
@@computerhelpcc I just said 80% of 78-79 were manual. People who buy cheap 928s have to fully restore them yes. They are 40 years old lol
Had my S2 for 6 years now, had plenty of classics before but this is the one i’ve owned for the longest and no intention of selling. Yes there’s a lot of old electrics that can go wrong but most problems tend to be caused by bad grounds, if rubber fuel and steering hoses aren’t replaced it’s a fire risk but no worse than any other FI car with power steering. If you like an analogue project they are great to work on, and there’s endless support from sites like Rennlist.
What year is your S2? Assume you are talking a twin dizzy car. And where are you located? I have a '84 S2 project .
911 is a better investment, if historiy is any guide