How Much MORE EXPENSIVE Are Ducatis? (Not Worth It?)

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  • @jeanbouchard5324
    @jeanbouchard5324 Před 2 lety +187

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    • @FriskyDecisions
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    • @jeanbouchard5324
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    • @junmeigarage
      @junmeigarage Před 2 lety +5

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  • @drewedwards8933
    @drewedwards8933 Před 2 lety +71

    If you’d like some twisted rationalization: A Mazda Miata is considered “cheap” right? And often purchased as an impractical 2nd car? So I can get a vehicle for half the price of a Miata, with half the wheels and 10x the style? A Ducati sounds downright frugal right? Right?

    • @Turshin
      @Turshin Před 2 lety +4

      Maybe a brand new Miata but, you can pick up used ones for 3k. That's 4 used miatas for one Ducati. 4 vehicles you can drive all year long even in the snow (very fun), cheaper to insure, and you change the timing belt every 100k miles. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @seanbeaman7414
      @seanbeaman7414 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Turshin they don’t sell for 3k anymore

    • @kkmaxg8543
      @kkmaxg8543 Před 2 lety +4

      @@seanbeaman7414 Still, you can find a used Miata much cheaper than used Ducati. I also believe maintenance on a beat up Miata is much cheaper than Used Ducati as well.

    • @iamdeancoulstock
      @iamdeancoulstock Před 2 lety +2

      I accept your rationalisation- thank you.
      Source: Bought a panigale two weeks ago

    • @Turshin
      @Turshin Před 2 lety

      @@ub3rn00bster yes I did. Big slides

  • @Thunkedmypants
    @Thunkedmypants Před 2 lety +10

    "Stay away from early 2000s Ducatis"
    *me: laughs nervously on his 748*

    • @AT2Productions
      @AT2Productions Před 2 lety +1

      Take care of her and she'll take care of you. I have an '05 Monster, love that thing, never getting rid of it and can never ride it enough.

    • @atour31
      @atour31 Před 2 lety

      @@AT2Productions same here! 2005 S2R!

    • @brianbelcher7279
      @brianbelcher7279 Před rokem

      How is it?

  • @Dunno_ian
    @Dunno_ian Před 2 lety +39

    Yamm as a fellow economist you know that a sample size of 1 can't do any justice to even suggesting real evidence. I think you need to buy at least 25 to support your hypothesis ;)

  • @dennisfoulk2144
    @dennisfoulk2144 Před 2 lety +44

    I've owned my 2008 1098 since it was new. It has over 67K on the odo, and hasn't been ridden much in the last 3years, due to other commitments on my part. I bought it because I love the looks, sound of the dry clutch, and uniqueness of the desmo valve train. In a drag race, equivalent year japanese bike are certainly quicker (being honest). On track days (and it's been ridden on many) it'll run with any of the japanese bikes, and typically better due to handling and brakes (I'm just an intermediate club racer). Another issue is it's not an easy bike to ride fast, it'll work you hard, but give back everything you give. Mine has Termi exhaust and race ECU but has stock forks and a shock with only a spring change. Again being honest, I didn't buy the thing looking for the best deal on performance, but rather because of the emotion it brings when I ride it. I do my own maintenance and figured out after the first valve checks that the published frequency was BS, and now only do them about every 15k (similar to japanese bikes). The truth is replacement parts are more expensive, and I tend to replace more than is necessary at each service. So again in full transparency, the bike I typically track day is my Kawasaki zx6r because I don't care if I skittle it down the track (because it's just a cheap bike) and it invokes no feelings. Where the inverse is true with my 1098, I dropped it once and felt gutted for days (only scratched right fairing and broke mirror). Last the Kawasaki is also a 2008, and it only has 3990 miles since new, guess that tells which goes out of the garage more!!!!

    • @ntdscherer
      @ntdscherer Před 2 lety +3

      Ari Henning and Zach Courts were quicker around a track on an old GSX-R1000 than they were on a brand new Ducati superbike. Possibly Ducatis have gotten slower.

    • @dennisfoulk2144
      @dennisfoulk2144 Před 2 lety +3

      Not arguing with others being faster on a gsxr...as rossi couldn't ride one but stoner could. My statement was regarding my club racing experience...where I've beat gsxr 1000's on both my 1098 and zx6r 600...and been beaten by Japanese 1000's on both.

    • @roryherk1805
      @roryherk1805 Před 2 lety

      Bravo my fellow Ducati dude my 2008 s2r1000 is my baby

    • @08Ducati848.
      @08Ducati848. Před 2 lety +1

      I love my 09 ducati 848. Recently hit a brick on the highway causing a bad tank slapper and hit a jersey wall at 80mph. The right side fairings are busted but the only bad damage was my front rim. Seeing my duc beat up hurts my soul. I feel like I've lost a family member. I've rode many bikes and owned a cbr600 and r1 but neither have invoked the same level of pure joy as my duc 848. That bike is worth the extra time and money. It's like owning a muscle car. It takes effort, patience, and alot of curse words to keep her tip top but boy there's nothing like it when your on a stretch of road with nothing but the sounds and feelings a duc seduces you with and my God is it all worth it. I don't care that a R1 will beat me in speed, I ride cuz I enjoy 2 wheels not cuz I wanna hit 186mph. Riding is a way of life not a race. Enjoy the journey and any of the duc SBK's will turn that enjoyment to 11. I went in knowing cost over time would be higher for my duc cuz I knew part of the cost is cuz of demand. There is simply more people buying parts for a gsxr then a ducati 848. Simply put a bigger demand makes for a bigger supply. Gsxr's are nice bikes but I look at them as the "Honda civic's" of the bike world. Yamaha r6, r1, gsxr 600-1000, and Kawa zx6-zx10s are common bikes. They are great bikes for sure but I love being the only ducati 848 in my area. I love when people see or hear it and go "damn what is that?". I've changed my battery, stator, and voltage regulator and all 3 only ran me $300 and did it myself. The value check only needs to be done every 15k, the dealer says 7,500k so you come back more often. The forums are very clear most maintenance is on pair with the big 4 brands.

    • @paweljacenko8103
      @paweljacenko8103 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I love Ducati by sound and look but
      Ducati is over complicated expensive and not solid as Japanese or Germans

  • @tshadow6
    @tshadow6 Před 2 lety +10

    Wow! This video made me appreciate my 2007 Triumph T 100 Bonneville! I do my own oil changes @ $60. My valves go 12K mikes between adjusting. I was able to fix two oil leaks myself. I did spend about $1K getting my 14 year old stator coil and ECU replaced. Plus my insurance is about $200 a year. I love paid off, reliable, ea$y to maintain motorcycles.

  • @justinmckeown9029
    @justinmckeown9029 Před 2 lety +5

    Ducati ownership is certainly a labor of love. I’ve had 4 and my longest run is now over 10 years. Cost of ownership is hugely mitigated when learning how to service them yourself and if it’s a labor of love, why not? I wouldn’t advise just anyone to get one, but if you’re a diehard enthusiast, it’s certainly worth it.

  • @williamcb78
    @williamcb78 Před 2 lety +78

    Japanese 🇯🇵 all the way dude !! The only “emotione “ I’m interested in is unimpeachable reliability !! 😉

    • @InsanitiesBrother
      @InsanitiesBrother Před 2 lety +7

      I like reliability... but I also like a 1301cc VTwin... I say this as someone who recently had a £1300 service =D (There was quite a bit done)

    • @jesseonamotorcycle
      @jesseonamotorcycle Před 2 lety +9

      I have a Ducati but I love Japanese bikes as well. When it comes to reliability I feel like it depends on how you treat your bike and maintain it.

    • @dubzc5895
      @dubzc5895 Před 2 lety +1

      Unless it blows up after a power commander. 🤣🤣😅 Too soon?!

    • @disbsam333
      @disbsam333 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jesseonamotorcycle I have a Ducati and they are so worth it. I got a 2012 Monster 795 for 1/3 it's new price (In Vietnam) and one year of hard riding and it still runs well. They are surprisingly reliable. Desmo in Vietnam is really cheap also. The way they sound and deliver power is really amazing.

    • @jesseonamotorcycle
      @jesseonamotorcycle Před 2 lety

      @@disbsam333 nice sounds like its a lot easier to own a Ducati in Vietnam! 👌🏼

  • @andrewpiercy1023
    @andrewpiercy1023 Před 2 lety +23

    If one is willing to own a Ducati, own it long term, and wants to save a bit of money, just learn to do all the work yourself and buy the tools for it. Not all of the service items are really required unless you’re Troy Bayliss and can notice that your valves need to be adjusted because when you were passing Casey stoner in Valencia you noticed a slight power loss from 3 laps ago in turn 3

    • @kleinbottled79
      @kleinbottled79 Před 2 lety +5

      Like, 'checking the suspension' every 7500 miles... wtf is that? If something starts to go wrong in your suspension you feel it. If I were to own a Ducati I would definitely be doing most, if not all, of the work. Yet, somehow, that doesn't make the Japanese bikes any less the winner. I'd rather be riding than wrenching at the end of the day.

    • @andrewpiercy1023
      @andrewpiercy1023 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kleinbottled79 agreed!

    • @dennisfoulk2144
      @dennisfoulk2144 Před 2 lety +2

      Absolutely agree, do your own work and regardless of brand, you'll have a better and more reliable bike!

  • @glenwallace6314
    @glenwallace6314 Před 2 lety +4

    I have a 2014 Multistrada that I paid $13000 for with only 2500 kms. I have had around 30 bikes and nothing comes close to it in my mind. It is my Sunday afternoon, sunny day ride. I bathe it in SPF 30 and hope to keep it for a long time to come. I have cheaper bikes to spread the milage around. My only regret is selling my 2007 Buell Ulysses to raise the money for it.

  • @Fisceroghr
    @Fisceroghr Před 2 lety +5

    Hands down my favorite outro so far. Little shady guys yelling at me through peepholes gets me every time.
    Not that I need to be told to watch more Mammy Boob at this point.

  • @leoncaples2947
    @leoncaples2947 Před 2 lety +11

    I'll settle for that new Grom-like Honda, thank you very much.

  • @gadelavega
    @gadelavega Před 2 lety +9

    Service costs in the US are insanely high, so probably any machine that has not been designed with US costs in mind will be expensive to maintain there. And once the paying power barrier has been crossed, anything can be charged higher just because the owner can pay it.

  • @Beastmode_Mr2
    @Beastmode_Mr2 Před 2 lety +23

    When I bought my panigale v2 a few months ago there is a maintenance plan they offer. The plan was expensive at around $5,xxx but it’s for years of maintenance on the bike, just take it to any Ducati dealer and I pay nothing for the oil changes, valves and whatever else. Saves me on the long run, of course I have to keep the bike stock for this to still be covered but I don’t mind. I’ve wanted a Ducati since I was a kid, just having one is a dream come to for me. To me it’s worth the cost to ride one of the worlds sought after motorcycle brands.

    • @JoeStanek-vu7rl
      @JoeStanek-vu7rl Před 3 měsíci

      What does that have to do with maintaining a 16 year old bike bought used?

  • @timsretirementjourney8323
    @timsretirementjourney8323 Před 2 lety +14

    If I want a reliable motorcycle at a reasonable price it would be Japanese for me every time. Some of the other brands look and sound cool I'll admit, but the big 4 have something for almost everyone.

    • @jesseonamotorcycle
      @jesseonamotorcycle Před 2 lety +2

      Couldn’t agree more with you Tim

    • @2lbsTrigrPull
      @2lbsTrigrPull Před 2 lety +3

      I owned older Hondas and now newer Yamahas. I've done 25000km on my Tracer 700 with changing the tyres once, changed oil and filter every 5000km even though it only has to be done every 10000km and after 20000km I changed the spark plugs, air filter and adjusted the valves myself. Only exhaust valves were on the tight end and needed smaller shims. Besides that the bike is doing fine. Can't compare it to any other brands especially European bike brands but I'm happy with the performance so far. Never had broken parts on my Hondas or Yamahas. The 700 is now going to be four years old and I still haven't had a bulb going bad. So much for those reliable LED lights that will cost you a fortune when they break...

    • @timsretirementjourney8323
      @timsretirementjourney8323 Před 2 lety +1

      @@2lbsTrigrPull it's a great testimony for Japanese reliability. A couple of years ago after not having a motorcycle for 30 years I bought a 1988 Katana 1100 and it had 113,000 km on it at that time and i was about the 7th or 8th owner so you know it didn't live an easy life. I had to do a major tune up and have the carbs redone (since it has sat for over a year) but it runs good and has been fun for me over the past couple of years. I guess that's my bit of a Suzuki testimony. When I was younger, after a few Brit bikes and many reliability issues I turned to Honda (CB 450, 750, and 1100F) and torture them as I did I couldn't hurt one.

  • @jesseonamotorcycle
    @jesseonamotorcycle Před 2 lety +10

    Ducati knows how to make a beautiful bike 🔥

    • @ashokathegreat4534
      @ashokathegreat4534 Před 2 lety

      For the prices Ducati ask for their bikes, I cant imagine what the Japanese could create

    • @brianbelcher7279
      @brianbelcher7279 Před rokem

      @@ashokathegreat4534 the fireblade vs v4s

    • @Jason-ip6wq
      @Jason-ip6wq Před 28 dny

      @@ashokathegreat4534ninja h2

  • @hisdadjames4876
    @hisdadjames4876 Před 2 lety +2

    Great work, Spite👍 Rarely have I seen a more convincing proof of something I thought was blindingly obvious in the first place!😂

  • @yossiezlatopolsky5585
    @yossiezlatopolsky5585 Před 2 lety +5

    9k for a 07 gsxr1000?? i got mine in great condition on offerup for 3k you just need to shop around and stay away from dealerships my whole bike cost me less then the exhaust on a ducati!!

  • @ReQuiem_2099
    @ReQuiem_2099 Před 2 lety +19

    Yeah, this is great, but what if Ducati is “just too pedestrian”? What about my dreams of owning an ‘05+ MV Agusta F4 1000? Tell me that 312 KPH unicorn was forgotten by insurance companies!

    • @emberducati9237
      @emberducati9237 Před 2 lety +7

      Press F for your wallet

    • @onlyfoolriding8223
      @onlyfoolriding8223 Před 2 lety +2

      My 19 MV Dragster was $55/mo for comprehensive. But I'm also 37 with no accidents and good credit, so there's that.

    • @emberducati9237
      @emberducati9237 Před 2 lety +3

      @@onlyfoolriding8223 i think the fact that your bike isn’t classified as a “sportsbike” probably saved you some ducats too

    • @ReQuiem_2099
      @ReQuiem_2099 Před 2 lety +1

      @@emberducati9237 Yeah, agreed. I'm 38, but have one big hit on my record that I had to account for when buying my 1st bike. Went with a sub-500cc naked with low reputation of hooliganism.

    • @exnihilo415
      @exnihilo415 Před 2 lety +2

      MV? Too mainstream! Get have your personal assistant get Bimota on line 1 and your Swiss banker on line 2.

  • @somebiker3459
    @somebiker3459 Před 2 lety +1

    I really enjoyed this video, y’all should do more stuff like this with comparing prices of ownership

  • @hapyharyhard0n581
    @hapyharyhard0n581 Před 2 lety +4

    i own 2 Ducatis. ....ive never seen the dealer. i do do all my own work and actually enjoy going inside a desmo engine. .....if i owned a GXSR, id do the same though.

  • @Shantanu_Upadhyaya
    @Shantanu_Upadhyaya Před 2 lety +12

    Yammie,
    Thanks alot for motivating me to be a rider. I bought a 220cc used motorcycle (on EMI, of course), and the emotions while turning the throttle on cannot be put on words.
    Thanks alot for enhancing my life!
    Love and respect from India.

    • @kleinbottled79
      @kleinbottled79 Před 2 lety +1

      Glad you took the leap into riding. Can I ask what EMI is?

    • @Shantanu_Upadhyaya
      @Shantanu_Upadhyaya Před 2 lety +1

      @@kleinbottled79 it is Equated Monthly Installment, where you need to provide the bank some amount every month to complete the payment (similar to credit card payment).
      In India, we have option to pay No Cost EMI, which means we don't have to pay interest on the amount we are taking from bank.

    • @georgeperkins4171
      @georgeperkins4171 Před 2 lety +1

      Lookup "shadetree surgeon" he loves all bikes.

    • @caronfernandes4625
      @caronfernandes4625 Před 2 měsíci

      pulsar 220f?

  • @carlmayer691
    @carlmayer691 Před 2 lety +3

    Agree w/Dennis Foulk for the most part. I owned a 999, w/ an FBF race spec BCM 102mm overbore testastretta, Pistal 13.5:1 pistons, Ohlins aftermarket NOT the SHITTY CRAPPY OEM 'Ohlins' 54mm full Termi, DP ECU, etc etc... I learned to maintain the clutch, do the valves, belts. Belts can be tighten to spec using a 5mm hex wrench believe it or not !!.. dry clutch can be torn down, basket, pack removed in 5 minutes. The radiator removed in about 8 minutes. Amazing motorcycle ...IIRC the 999 won more championships, Euro Superstock races then any other Ducati superbike. WSBK was at one time referred to as the Ducati Cup in the 2003~2006 era when the 999 won everything. You can do belts-which are good for 9K unless you race the darn thing. Easily replaced by owner, cost about 1/2 OEM parts....$125 bucks from CA Cycleworks IIRC..been a while. Valves are easy to check on the testastretta and testastretta EVO ..forget the Paingale-engine must be removed !!! Parts...well I own a Triumph Daytona 955 too....a grip set for the Ducati $101 bucks. To include RH grip mounted to throttle tube, LH grip vs....$22 for the Daytona !!!!! I would bet both are made from the same outside vendor. Performance parts are expensive...but OEM part for OEM part Ducati are insanely expensive PLUS it takes forever to get parts. Took me 9 months to get my 2nd magnesium cam cover from Italy. 6, 12K Service for the Daytona 955 about $400, $800 for the Ducati. But it's not about MONEY when you own a Duc, there is something far far more enjoyable, that deep intrinsic feeling being a "Ducatista" ...owning one of these racing motorcycles from Bologna !!!!! Too bad we can't post pictures here !!!!

  • @cmaz8547
    @cmaz8547 Před 2 lety +1

    Ive had a Ducati for two years with no problems. What I have a problem with is wiping this smile off my face, every time I get on my Ducati (sorry, but a Japanese bike doesn’t do this!?!!

  • @conscious4895
    @conscious4895 Před 2 lety

    lots of great info, Spite!

  • @Buildingexcellence11
    @Buildingexcellence11 Před 2 lety +4

    I can tell you as a F3 800 owner, the insurance cost is real. Shop around and you can find a good deal. Same for bikes

  • @alkiou3613
    @alkiou3613 Před 2 lety +5

    TurboBusa is so close to being revealed!

    • @mackenzieharris5259
      @mackenzieharris5259 Před 2 lety

      Still like a month out. the subscriber count over the last 100k has been moving up painfully slow.

  • @jacquescrusan9500
    @jacquescrusan9500 Před 2 lety +5

    Y'all are skipping over the unknown diamonds ducati has made in their air-cooled line of bikes. I have 2 of them. 2012 Monster 1100 EVO, and 2005 800 SuperSport. They are by far the most user-friendly and DIY friendly bikes I've ever owned. Mind you, I own a KX250f, a ZX6R, and at one point a FZ-07. Fairings are super simple to take off, engines are just as easy to strip down, and valvejobs can be done with relatively basic hand tools. I've done my own valvejobs with both my ducs for the past 3 years, as it's only 4 valves instead of the typical 8. $10.00 shims, $50.00 sprocket holder, a 6 pack of beer and 3 hours on a saturday. mid-00's supersports are selling for about $3-5k overall, and the vast majority of them are in fantastic condition.
    Tl:;DR: Liquid cooling is not the way to go with ducati if you're looking for cheap fun. But if you get step to the side and go for air-cooling, it's the least expensive route to go european as far as initial and long-term price.

    • @atour31
      @atour31 Před 2 lety

      I second that! Bought an air cooled S2R 2005 monster in mint condition (5000 miles) for less than $ 4K. Insurance costs nothing! And the bike looks way better than current monster!

  • @Hondatech26
    @Hondatech26 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the cutout of Yams head just chilling on the shelf lol

  • @robertsole9970
    @robertsole9970 Před 2 lety +1

    If you get a Gixxer you have to get Oakley Blades too. Add that cost in.

  • @kublakhan5360
    @kublakhan5360 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you Japan for all the wonderful motorcycles. Big four leads in all categories. Who won the most super moto races. The big four!

  • @keithgill4299
    @keithgill4299 Před 2 lety +12

    One factor you missed. How easily can you afford the difference. How much does a few $1000 matter to you. If you've saved every penny for a year, then it matters a lot. If you're Tom Cruuse, probably not so much.

    • @Turshin
      @Turshin Před 2 lety +1

      I'm pretty sure at this point they give Tom Cruise bikes.

    • @AT2Productions
      @AT2Productions Před 2 lety

      You don't have to be some washed-up former top tier actor to afford a Ducati. I'm by no means rolling in the cash, and yet I own a Ducati with plans to add another one to the garage.

    • @keithgill4299
      @keithgill4299 Před 2 lety

      @@AT2Productions Of course not. But, the more disposable income you have; the easier it is to justify the additional cost.

    • @AT2Productions
      @AT2Productions Před 2 lety

      @@keithgill4299 not all models are as extreme as this video and others talk about. Not every model offered by Ducati over the past 20+ years has the same level of investment. Or are we to judge all manufacturers by a single offering in their lineup from one time period?

    • @keithgill4299
      @keithgill4299 Před 2 lety

      @@AT2Productions Not sure why you're addressing this to me. I own a Ducati.

  • @philip2685
    @philip2685 Před 2 lety +2

    The xx98's are very easy to pull apart and service and fix. Just need that extra love because it's the small stuff that makes the bike expensive if you always ha e it done by a mechanic

  • @ruthlesshatchet6353
    @ruthlesshatchet6353 Před 2 lety +1

    I always go with the big 4, but I admire the beauty of Ducati it is hands down a flex on my poor Kawasaki.

  • @paulburgess3088
    @paulburgess3088 Před 2 lety +2

    Followed you all the way to the end and you were basically correct about the Ducati. Having experience with a 2000 900SSie I can attest to most of what you have said. But then at the end you made a fundamental, and really basic error when adding everything up. You forgot, or deliberately omitted the modifier from the 1098 column. It's called "SOUL". The 1098 has it in spades (Actually ALL Ducatis have it) and it negates ALL other costs. So, the Duke (Hail to Bologna) is way cheaper, actually free to own and the GXR is a piece of expensive crap. :-)

  • @mannygsxr
    @mannygsxr Před 2 lety

    Cool vid!

  • @ChristopherPhillipsDev

    It's like those old spice commercials: look at me, I'm on a horse. Now a boat. I'm watching Spite, and then Yam's goofy face on the shelf. Back to Spite! No, hey, over here on the shelf 😂

  • @JohnConnor12
    @JohnConnor12 Před 2 lety +2

    I was beginning to have Yammie withdrawals

  • @mikeukrainetz
    @mikeukrainetz Před 2 lety +2

    Add in roughly a grand at each service for me... I need to bundle it up and ship it 2400km to the dealer. Just reached first service interval on the PV4 and while I can do the oil change I can't reset the system.
    6k for an exhaust means it'll be stock for it's lifetime.
    Even getting rid of the mirrors for bar ends was nuts.
    ...but it's a fantastic bike after the burns heal lol

    • @titanium7992
      @titanium7992 Před rokem

      It's not a requirement to add a Termi exhaust. My Toce exhaust wasn't nearly that expensive and sounds spectacular. Plus I don't look like everyone else.

  • @Speedytrip
    @Speedytrip Před 2 lety +5

    Cool video, but it would have been interesting to compare more recent motorcycles (ducati vs japanese). Ducati have been stretching out the valve adjustments, but it's probably not cheaper, just less frequent than it was.

    • @Rick1984FL
      @Rick1984FL Před 2 lety

      Or worse, even more money, even if less often.

    • @Speedytrip
      @Speedytrip Před 2 lety

      @@Rick1984FL very possible, a valve job on the multistrada v4 must not be a bargain.

  • @robertwilliams4486
    @robertwilliams4486 Před 2 lety +13

    How many hours is one of those valve / belt inspections? I was trying to get a final cost difference, a summary like ‘over 25K mile the Ducati is 22% more costly’.

    • @TDub_ADV
      @TDub_ADV Před 2 lety +5

      I think it depends on where you are by around where i live a full desmo service was about $2000 including the belts. Depending on the bike its a full days work for a tech. Spare parts are also very costly. I had a 2011 Multistrada and parts i got for it over the years like a front brake lever $160 for stock, rear brake caliper $400 etc. Expense of ownership is one of the reasons i no longer own it.

    • @markkharouta9733
      @markkharouta9733 Před 2 lety

      the service report on my 2016 hypermotard for desmo stated 6.9 hrs. @140/hr was 966 bucks labor. Parts were additional 440 putting me around 1400 total for the service. :(

    • @hpkiunzy
      @hpkiunzy Před 2 lety

      where i live. desmo service is 1800 CAD it takes around 12 hours and independant shops aren't willing to work on ducati excepts for basic maintenances. Suzuki valve ajustment costs between 350 and 600 $.

    • @AT2Productions
      @AT2Productions Před 2 lety +1

      @@TDub_ADV $2000 including parts? You're getting robbed on the labor. Yes, I own a Ducati myself.

    • @TDub_ADV
      @TDub_ADV Před 2 lety +1

      @@AT2Productions Yes, including belts, shims, shop supplies etc. Yes, the labor was not at all cheap. The euro bike dealers around where i live are charging ~140 an hour for labor and the 2 dealers near me wrote it as a 12 hour job on that bike plus parts. Thats over 1600 just in labor. As another person posted, independent shops wont touch it because they do not want to have to invest in special tools that only work on one brand of motorcycle that they do not see very often. IE. a device to harmonically tension the belts. My local indy shop would not even put tires on it.
      Bottom line is they are wonderful motorcycles but very expensive to own especially if you ride them a lot. I was doing a desmo service on that Multi every two years which is about 15k, right on the book schedule for the 2011 model year. So after two years of ownership i already had to dump 2k intro a desmo service and another 2 grand+ for multiple sets of new tires and front brakes brakes since they were spent by then too. So over 4k total in maintenance/upkeep after 2 years. After 9 years of ownership i put almost as much into maint of that bike as i did to buy it. I put a lot of touring miles on it and maintained it by the book, i also did everything i could myself just the big jobs like valves and tires went to the dealer. If it was 100% dealer maintained i cannot imagine the cost since even something as simple as an oil change costs over $400 at my Ducati dealer.
      Compare that to the Honda that replaced it. Two years in and about 15k later and i'm in it for about $100 in oil changes and 40 bucks for an air filter, and one set of tires for ~700 thats it so far. Next year i will need tires again at some point and will need a valve check/adjustment but i can do that myself easily with no special tools needed and my local indy shop has no issues putting tires on a Honda.

  • @Mr.DMZ.
    @Mr.DMZ. Před 2 lety +2

    I did my own valve adjustment and timing belt change on my Ducati monster and that was a nightmare. But I did save so much money doing it myself

    • @jaimeruiz521
      @jaimeruiz521 Před 11 měsíci

      Practice makes perfect. I imagine that after a while you'd get it down easier and easier

  • @gerryryan2302
    @gerryryan2302 Před 2 lety +2

    Must be me or where I live but my Ducati was very similar insurance as any other breeds I’ve had . Services were similar except if belts needed adjusting . The higher cost of buying is probably irrelevant as the re sale is also higher..The thing I was slightly annoyed with was the fixings and fittings being cheap and made of cheesium .

  • @razu1976
    @razu1976 Před 2 lety

    I have a Scrambler and a 950S, (yes, I am old). The good thing about the service costs being so high is that it justifies buying tools and equipment! My ramp and various tools have probably already paid for themselves with a few DIY brake services and an oil change. You just need to apply some creative logic! Also, messing about with bikes is almost as fun as riding them. But you have to have two bikes if you're going to work on them yourself, because you will run into problems and need parts, tools, whatever.

  • @richardfarabaugh7604
    @richardfarabaugh7604 Před 2 lety

    You know what? When Ole Pappa Yam does the “click the video over there 👉 yeah you over there, click it, Do It! DO IT !! CLICK IT!!!” Etc. I find myself clicking before I know it. So just so you guys know it works. Lmao.

  • @seeul8rwaynekerr
    @seeul8rwaynekerr Před 2 lety +1

    On insurance. The gsxr's are as common as town pigeons. Ducatis as you said are a fine piece of Italian art and highly desirable.
    I'll still take the gsxr any day for speed and reliability overall.

  • @mambamolt_tt73
    @mambamolt_tt73 Před 2 lety +18

    The Ducati V4R is just a timeless masterpiece machine, When you buy high equity quantity and nice luxurious quality assets they will cost a hefty dime but it will absolutely be worth every penny.

    • @m1a1abrams3
      @m1a1abrams3 Před 2 lety +10

      "high quality" isnt as high quality as japanese realiability but for a fraction of the price

    • @LuLu-kd8fd
      @LuLu-kd8fd Před 2 lety +5

      Quality without reliability is worthless

  • @shegocrazy
    @shegocrazy Před 2 lety

    A mate of mine bought a 1299 Panigale a couple of years ago to be stablemate to his R1. He has heaps of money so good luck to him.

  • @treeguyable
    @treeguyable Před 2 lety

    O4 vtx 1800, Cobra pipes,( bought it like that) 08 vtx 1800 , stock, 13 Raider stock, 06 R1, stock. They are all gorgeous, run fine, plenty fast,( too fast). But, I guess a workbench full of stock parts, to make room for " performance " parts, that get you tickets a bit faster, are all in what you like. Gotta love Murica.

  • @adrianhone4038
    @adrianhone4038 Před 2 lety +1

    Yammie PLEASE do a vid on supermoto vs enduro dual sport like the fe350

  • @mtmatt8958
    @mtmatt8958 Před 2 lety +1

    You can get a monster for a pretty good price, if I'm going to get a full fared sport bike it's going to be an inline 4 screamer..But for now I'll stick to my mto7 it's all I need 💯

  • @grey5135
    @grey5135 Před 2 lety

    Damn only 12k from 1 mil subs.... 2021 was the year of the Yam. I'm looking forward to seeing that Turbo Busa

  • @PepperShepard
    @PepperShepard Před 2 lety +1

    “Well I did a ton of research in the last couple of days”
    Spoke like desmodromic valves bruh !

  • @thescoutt1327
    @thescoutt1327 Před 2 lety

    Bro I’m just trying to get my first bike also the yam head in the back is so funny

  • @lopezdad30
    @lopezdad30 Před 2 lety

    Here in SoCal, big 4 dealerships charge $110 per HALF-HOUR on labor!! 😳

  • @langstonwren6554
    @langstonwren6554 Před 2 lety +2

    Ducati = Ferrari
    GSXR = Toyota
    I have a SFV4s. You get what you pay for lol
    And if you own a Ducati I kinda doubt that the money or cost to Maintain would be a issue.

    • @THEREALZENFORCE
      @THEREALZENFORCE Před 2 lety +1

      GSXR = Lexus LFA (fast, best sound ever, best reliability)
      Ducati = Ferrari (fast beautiful work of art, good sound, bad reliability, high maintenance cost, low mileage garage queens that often break down even at low mileage).

    • @THEREALZENFORCE
      @THEREALZENFORCE Před 2 lety

      SFV4s, good looking bike but falls way behind on curvy roads compared to better engineered bike Super Duke R and new Super Duke RR (especially the Super Duke R EVO 2022 with Suspension Pro package), also the new 2022 SFV2 is better looking than the SFV4, and a 6000 dollars 2005 GSXR-1000 obliterates the SFV4 on the streets and on the race track. The power of the SFV4 comes too late (especially on the road) Facts :-)

  • @karstenbonnaire2706
    @karstenbonnaire2706 Před 2 lety

    good video idea

  • @filippnesterov7157
    @filippnesterov7157 Před 2 lety

    What about Ducati Scrambler? Would it be the same much more expensive than others in the same class?

  • @jeanbouchard5324
    @jeanbouchard5324 Před 2 lety +2

    Is it just me or there wasn't any videos the last two days?

  • @averageamerican4478
    @averageamerican4478 Před 8 měsíci

    I had the opposite, I priced out a 2010 ducati street fighter vs a 2006 cbr 1000rr, both were 6990.00 but the insurance was 400 dollars more per year for the honda vs the ducati.

  • @Favk21
    @Favk21 Před 2 lety +1

    Inspired by your 1098 videos I checked some insurances for it. So many variables that affect the stuff but still... I was kinda shocked that (in my case) 01' R6 was slightly more expensive to insure than 07' 1098.

    • @marl0nbrand01
      @marl0nbrand01 Před 2 lety +1

      With fair authority I can tell you It's the amount of claims a certain bike gets over its production life that spikes its cost to insure more so than engine size or MSRP.

    • @Artistree-hg4lz
      @Artistree-hg4lz Před 11 měsíci +1

      I've used my sticker off my 92 fzr 600 on my 00 yzf r6, and going over Donner's Pass one year at 120 mph the cop was I think taking a piss
      I figured he won't bother , but many miles up ahead I was impressed he was coming
      But I seem him before he could clock me on his gun, I slowed down and pulled over
      (And was aware he hadn't gotten me radared)
      He was having trouble believing my cycle was a 92, and said the numbers were pulling it up as a 2008 ? He contacted my insurance and it came back insured
      But he wasn't completely satisfied, as he was inspecting my vin sticker on the frame he asked me in a way sort of he said
      Don't these motorcycles have numbers stamped into the frame somewhere
      (Which was literally inches to the right on the gooseneck.
      But my reply to him was "have you ever rode motorcycles" he said no, and my immediate reply shrugging my shoulders was "I don't know"
      I lied, send me to hell, after everything taking a good couple of hours, he informed me that he wasn't going to ticket me for taking so much of my time and let me go
      Oh I forgot initially when he got me pulled over, he asked what's my hurry, and I honestly said, I like riding fast, the roads are great and traffic was spread out enough that conditions were perfect, and they were.
      I'm afraid that won't always work for me, but that time was great, insurance on a motorcycle, I don't expect to live through any wrecks, insurance is a scam!

  • @bensahar215
    @bensahar215 Před 17 dny

    I got Panigale V4 for my first bike ever and not even thinking of trying anything else!
    I just can't get enough of the sound, looks and handling! It's perfect!

  • @kashsres1064
    @kashsres1064 Před 2 lety +1

    Hands down Ducati 1098 is the most beautiful bike of all time. A piece of art.

  • @ninjaguysith
    @ninjaguysith Před 2 lety

    You can buy a 1 gallon jug of Yamalube from you local dealer for under $30. My local dealer in L.A. sells it for $26.99.

  • @MichaelTexas70
    @MichaelTexas70 Před 2 lety +1

    Next video... do a price comparison between a 2008 Suzuki Car and a 2008 Ferrari

  • @oldbag3043
    @oldbag3043 Před 2 lety +3

    My mate had a Ducati and people would say to him, nice bike how you getting home, because they always break down

    • @daniePM
      @daniePM Před 2 lety

      I daily ride a old 2007 ducati, it never failed me.

    • @keithgill4299
      @keithgill4299 Před 2 lety

      37,000 mls on my last one. 3,000 mls on the new one. That's almost twice round the equator.. No problems with either so far.
      Where was your M8 riding that they always broke down? The moon.

    • @Mr100asd
      @Mr100asd Před 2 lety

      maybe 20 years ago .. THAT'S BS

  • @nonoone1
    @nonoone1 Před 2 lety

    There's no video to click on when Yammie is begging us to click on one at the end lol

  • @matth8924
    @matth8924 Před 2 lety +2

    In defense of Ducati, the newer models (anything 2015+) are MUCH less maintenance heavy. On the panigale valves are done every 15K miles, and belts are no longer used. Still expensive, but early 2000s Ducatis really are incredibly expensive to maintain.

    • @AT2Productions
      @AT2Productions Před 2 lety +1

      Only if you pay someone else to do ALL the work for you. Yes, I own a 2005 Ducati, and the only service I hand off to others are the valves/belts.

  • @Rick1984FL
    @Rick1984FL Před 2 lety

    Well this is perfectly timely since I’m debating the supersport versus the rs660 and not sure which way to go
    I guess it doesn’t matter both are Italian

  • @nickclarkuk
    @nickclarkuk Před 2 lety +1

    Feeling smug owning a Honda CB500F as my daily commuter 😁

  • @muffinatordlux
    @muffinatordlux Před 2 lety

    I sold my yellow 1098... when i started my business.. :(
    I miss my baby...
    She looked just like that... everytime u post with a thumbnail of this bike i have instant fond memories...
    Buy a Ducati... you will love it.. and miss it one day...

  • @kz900r4
    @kz900r4 Před 2 lety

    Damn I have some court records from way back and it costs me 287$ a month with state farm... and that's with my wife as primary operator 🤣

  • @grudzien9784
    @grudzien9784 Před 2 lety

    Check out Yamees face in the left corner lol :)

  • @ftby59mikeD
    @ftby59mikeD Před 2 lety

    Good comparo, but I suggest buying a old two valve air cooled Duc & a service manual. All the joys without the broken wallet!👍

  • @treeguyable
    @treeguyable Před 2 lety

    No grease on the pegboard, 1/2" breaker bars, way up high in 2 ring holders, new looking socket sets hanging, bench, no stains, clean enough to sit on. Wish my shop looked that un used.

  • @rvvr
    @rvvr Před 2 lety

    Yeah. Did those same numbers in 2019 and had the same results. So I bought myself the next best thing; a 2002 Honda RC51 for under 5K. And yes, although I would still love to own a Ducati, my RC51 does a great job at filling that void. Besides, who wouldn't want to own a bike that Honda built just to beat Ducati and then actually BEATING them!!!

  • @East_TX_LCR
    @East_TX_LCR Před 2 lety

    That yam mask sees into my soul.

  • @chucksolutions4579
    @chucksolutions4579 Před 2 lety +1

    I have a ducati, live in a city and own two other vehicles (I am the only driver), I pay less than 300/year insurance

  • @mattsloop2736
    @mattsloop2736 Před 2 lety

    My 2016 Ducati monster 821 cost 320$ a year for full coverage. I got 3 bikes insured.

  • @Simone-rx7ip
    @Simone-rx7ip Před 2 měsíci

    Ducati and MV Agusta are known to be expensive to buy, repair and maintain, also Aprilia (because it's need to be repaired every 2 days maybe.. 😅). But i think that here in Italy is possible to have and maintain a bike like these with similar costs of a Japanese one because here everyone, and intending really everyone knows how to repair a Ducati or MV Agusta with minimum cost and energy, literally everyone. I think this is one little fortune to live in Italy ❤

  • @runescapefire3
    @runescapefire3 Před 2 lety

    Haha seeing the insurance for the Ducati makes me happy that I only pay $186 a year for my z400.

  • @mohawkdriver4155
    @mohawkdriver4155 Před 2 lety +1

    "Old farts"? I resemble that remark.

  • @Faceless_Chat
    @Faceless_Chat Před 2 lety

    So who won that giveaway Honda??

  • @schurkensohn7001
    @schurkensohn7001 Před 2 lety

    Just bought a new Supersport 950 perfect timing :)

    • @Trancepotato
      @Trancepotato Před 2 lety

      Congrats, I bought one last month!

    • @schurkensohn7001
      @schurkensohn7001 Před 2 lety

      @@Trancepotato how is the bike? Mine is coming around April next year.

  • @armyofshea7941
    @armyofshea7941 Před 2 lety

    Insurance on my 2007 BMW R1200RT is $358 a year for full coverage plus riding gear loss. Kinda crazy since only 18 year olds buy and instantly yeet these things like 10 times a day.

  • @UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart
    @UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart Před měsícem

    19:55 LOL

  • @Chigoesandflea
    @Chigoesandflea Před 2 lety

    Just get old....Ive learned to do most work myself, slowly collected the tools. have Ducati mechanic friends that do the belt for $240.
    Oh, and insurance for 1984 Toy PU, 1990 F250, 2008 FJ Cruiser , 2004 Lexus 470, 2014 GSXR1000 and 2008 1098S is a whopping $1400/year!
    Added the Duc for about $160/year. Combine with 45+ years of riding experience and few get past. (new $28,000 V4s)

  • @livingon2wheels
    @livingon2wheels Před 2 lety

    I've never owned one but I'd love to ride or own a Ducati.

  • @TheDucatiPilot
    @TheDucatiPilot Před 2 lety +1

    You buy a Gixxer to "have a bike". You buy a Ducati because you're a motorcycle enthusiast. I'll stick with my V4 Speciale. 😉

  • @kaylafruetel2003
    @kaylafruetel2003 Před 2 lety

    Eh, it depends on the exhaust. I know a lot of people willing to pay more for an exhaust like Akrapovic but less if it is almost any other exhaust.

  • @KenBurr
    @KenBurr Před rokem

    I usually prefer shopping in person but can't beat Amazon.. one day delivery, K&N filter and 4 quarts of valvoline for $42 🥵

  • @mtmatt8958
    @mtmatt8958 Před 2 lety

    That yellow Ducati is itching for a black/grey wrap

  • @chadgruver4423
    @chadgruver4423 Před 2 lety

    Thank goodness the new Ducati's have much longer service intervals.

  • @crispyviz9533
    @crispyviz9533 Před 2 lety

    Recently i own a Street Triple RS which costs me about 700€ per year. I called my insurance for information about the Street Fighter V2 prices. The SF2 would be about 40€ cheaper than the RS... Germany

  • @just_one_opinion
    @just_one_opinion Před 2 lety

    Intro song was from Uncharted X. sweet

  • @Villani_AV
    @Villani_AV Před 2 lety

    First time I heard a non nyer day a long Island town name correctly🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @mattsloop2736
    @mattsloop2736 Před 2 lety

    But the 1098 looks so much and you see gsxr's everywhere. Plus that sound is amazing.

  • @hendrickparks7326
    @hendrickparks7326 Před 3 měsíci

    I have a 848 and 1098. Both are 2009 and I have mods that total 11,000 bucs.

  • @alexturnqest6202
    @alexturnqest6202 Před 2 lety +5

    So the main point of this video. Buy an Aprilia rsv4 and save “some” money.🤣

    • @getdownmikelove
      @getdownmikelove Před 2 lety

      Save more and buy the Tuono V4

    • @robertsole9970
      @robertsole9970 Před 2 lety

      With those plastic tanks? Plus constant vapor lock…. Nope

    • @dancarlos1216
      @dancarlos1216 Před 2 lety

      Aprilia is no cheaper than a Ducati in any way, not sure why people think it is.

  • @Eclispestar
    @Eclispestar Před 2 lety +2

    Get yourself a 100 cc 2 stroke. Gass prices going up