What Can United LEARN from Arsenal? 🤔 ft James B
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- What Can United LEARN from Arsenal? 🤔 ft James B @JamesGoonerverse
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Arteta inherited a squad that had Mustafi, Sokratis and Guendouzi. Ten Hag inherited a squad that had Varane, Sancho and Ronaldo. That just sums it up really.
Comparing arteta and ETHs situation is the quickest way to let people know u didn’t watch arsenal back then lol
I saw ceballos nutmeg laca feigning an injury....😭😭😭😭
I guess u forgot the Ralph and Ole seasons and the last 10years before ETH. Just shows you have a selective memory
Not only did we get 60 points in 8th, we were only SIX points behind fourth place. Statisically we were 3-4 best side from January to May which is what pulled us up the table so we werent consistently bad with little spending compared to watching united all season.
What a trophy for Arsenal!😂😂
79 comments on a united fan channel 😂😂😭
And you didnt have 65 injuries
@@SportXUtd you were shit from game week 1 without said injuries. Nothing has changed. Attacking players have been there all season and have largely been pathetic in terms of play style
Nice to hear someone balanced without all the stupid hooliganism. I am actually paying attention instead of using the video as a white noise.
Flex we need see u and James do show like this more often proper football talk make it happen
Yeah unlike when talking to dickheads like KG and ex. Lol
My favourite guy from AFTV….James B
Yes the only one i like. And i am an arsenal Fan 😅
Could Hear them talk for hours. Big up! 👍
He is nice and polite but also talks rubbish. Said he wants to see Zinchenko back in the team for one lol. Zinchenko is terrible and cost Arsenal the league
@@ps5andstuffhere yeah, I hear you and the celebration for the draw against Man City? I remember some Arsenal fans were not happy about him celebrating a draw.
Not sure about that. Nobody wins at Man Cheaty
Varane has played a lot. Basically the same amount as Maguire this season. Not sure why everyone assumes he was also missing this season but Maguire wasn’t
I appreciate a video like this.. no bias just real perspective
Where is Cam?
Arsenal's Scientist super poindexter James is truly a diamond!
James so respectful with it
The amount of money ten Hag has spent is a false equivalency. Theres a reason we’ve sacked everyone involved in sanctioning those purchases.
People forget that antony and Casemiro signed on the last week of the window when the glazers sanctioned panic buys due to missing out on so many targets and losing the opening two games. Whilst ten hag sanctioned the signing of those players he didnt decide the fee and that late in the window having missed so many targets was basically faced with them or nothing.
The second season they bought early to make up for the failure of the first window. The club didnt want to miss out on hojlund knowing the striker market was barren and there was competition for Mount. The idea was always to sell Martial, Maguire and McTominay and use the funds to get the senior striker, midfielder, centre backs and full backs we needed. But once again the club failed to make sales and ten hag was left with a back line that cant play his football.
Hes made plenty of mistakes and Im not confident hes a good enough manager to turn it around. But the failure in the transfer window is on the club more than on him.
Definitely gotta check the stats before saying Hag situation is the same as Arteta situation
Man Utd were coinciding 15 shots a match last season with fit squad.
I disagree when people say ETH doesn’t have a style of play. He actually does - play out from the back with players who can’t do it. Give the ball away needlessly. Have big gaps in midfield.
Wingers who can’t cross or pass to hojlund. Concede from cutbacks regularly. Don’t mark from corners. Don’t mark from short corners. Let people run past us. Don’t tackle. So he does have one!
Who signed Antony, his winger who isn't able to put a cross
Regardless of what happens for the rest of the season Manchester United need to change at least the starting 11. They have too many injury prone, weak mentality and overshielded players. On top of that they get paid too much and that is why they don't feel like they have to perform every game, because they think the club doesn't have the balls to get rid of them. As for ETH play a couple of Academy players that have the hunger to run after every ball with a define style of play.
Flex finally got the big gun from AFTV
There was an Emery before there was an Arteta at Arsenal. United should remember that. Arsenal ‘process’ precedes Arteta
Great video this lads good measured discussion
Either way. ETH absolutely deserves another season under a new structure.
If you look at the games with arteta, you see an identity with the player quality.
Mikels team. was good but the quality wasnt there. when the coaching got on, the 5th position arsenal was a revelation of what would happen. last season was flair and this season is more solidity. The identity is now ingrained at the core! next season i am. excited at what Mikel would do. Tenhag has no identity.. yet! even with his injury challenges
James is elite I can remember first seeing him on DR during the euros and I said I like this Italian guy and i still do.
With the injuries, the available United team is about 6 to 10th best in the league. So we all need to calm down. TH should be given time.
5 year contract is a must
100% our team is worst than Newcastles and Chelsea yet all touching distance with each other, but now Poch is the messiah and Howe is untouchable
Lovely guest!
Ten Hag no clue about the Premier League
Yeah he only finished 3rd, knows nothing.
What do you mean ‘Rashford hasn’t been playing’ flex, he’s played most of the season and no one was talking about Eric Baily and Mata. The fact of the matter is we still have players recruited by a load of managers
flex please remember he said we are challenging for top 4
Man united need to pay players off to leave and sign players that actually want to play for the club.
There are comparisons between the club's and their situations, like Arteta and Arsenal, whoever takes control of Manchester United next season, they will have to be absolutely ruthless in culling failing players on huge wages.
What has been positive is that the new bosses have started to bring in new sporting and technical directors to start the process from scratch, which is what needs to happen at United.
The next step is to bring in younger players from around the World, as well as using home grown young players, and develop them together into a team for the future.
If the club choose to keep Ten Hag and give him time to take on this process is another difficult decision that the board and sporting directors will have to take.
The thing is, in my opinion......... too much has gone on between Ten Hag and the current squad, they don't seem to buy into his plans and process and this could continue so, if it was my decision to make, I'd look elsewhere.
The 2 managers name's that are constantly being thrown out there are Potter and Southgate, these might not excite their supporters but they could be the perfect managers to stop the rot, steady the ship and start developing a young team. They could bridge the gap between now and a point where the team is ready for a top quality manager.
The wildcard is Tuchel......... if it was The Arsenal and the 3 names were in the mix, I'd go for the German.
after a season ..you lot will still call out those managers...tuchel out..southgate out..clown fans...always blaming managers each time...be patient
You got your studio back lol😂
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This season went off the rails, but I'm of the mind TH needs another season. Let's see what INEOS/Glazer model can do for the club and TH.
Simple answer, arty has a style of play ten h doesn't.. i get it arty had ybe power to terminate contacts!! Give him the keya because if not same thing will happen the next!!
Liverpool had worse injuries like season but managed to finish 5th because of Klopp....He sold hendo, fabinho, keita, milner..Revamped the whole midfield and still finished 3rd with a carabao cup...Ten hag needs to tweak his tactics, get the players to play his pattern of football & inprove his talent ID...As for arteta who is a low budget pep, he will go bald before winning the epl as long as pep is still around...
65injuries but anyway did liverpool finish in ucl last season ETH did
James waffling at the beginning. No one has ever seen what Poch has been doing at Chelsea so why is he getting a pass? Because they’ve had a handful of games they’ve played well in but battered for 3/4 the season. Because you can say Manchester United have also had spells during the season where it looks like they’re going to get going even with more injuries.
The one and only, James AFTV!
And where is the tactical view flex? I like the show with james as guest tactical view
You said arsenal were tribble but they won FA, how will a bad team FA cup
You lot seriously need to stop using domestic cup competitions as a barometer. That season in particular there was a 4 month break. Go through the players that Arteta inherited and look at where they went and where they are now. He had to replace the entire team.
Bro don't bother arguing with other fans right now. As an Arsenal fan we should all be united with the team. We have a great manager great squad and we're building.
Plus we get to watch good football every week, fuck what fans of other teams say
Dortmund are not the best team in their league yet they could win the champions league
Best video
Flex it’s not a whole different crop you name the same Players under different managers who are on the books and not available it is the same players causing issues
The situation at United is very similar to Arsenal’s 4 years ago and it’s going to take a large investment of time and money from the board to fix.
United currently have a squad that looks mostly uncoachable on swollen wages who would be undesirable by clubs. So to rectify that they’d have to either wait contracts out or buy players out of their contracts.
Then they’d have to start a fresh with some names that don’t excite them but are steady and would play for the badge at least. From there it’s a case of slowly sprinkling in better players until the squad is where they’d want it to be.
Utd can learn how not bottle things when the pressure. We the masters at it🤣🤣
I love how Arsenal fans are going round like our club is the messiah and everyone can learn so much from our journey 😂. Let’s win a prem first. I’m a gooner btw
Can't win against man cheaty until guardiola leaves
Never! We need to get rid of this inept manager honestly...There's no comparison between him and arteta
UTD PLAYERS won't RUN 😢😢😢😢😅😅😅😅😅
I don't think it's similar
why do people keep using arteta and arsenal as the benchmark when they’ve won nothing in nearly 4 years, weird af
It's the direction that people want to be towards...man city directions would be illegal and a crime for us to copy
@@tuanmohdarfantuankhusairry2977we spend just as much money as city. They are the benchmark in this country.
@@sunsetstranger I'm not talking about transfers and spending
Well you need an arteta counter in united fan channels. The amount of times his mentioned and the analogies made between both is significant.
If he didnt win anything in 4 yrs why is he brought up on these channels 🤨
@@tuanmohdarfantuankhusairry2977 they are innocent until proven guilty.
4-1 asernal win
Learn how to come second?
Give it a rest mate, it's about being relevant again first. To actually compete for a change. Then you can talk about wining major trophies again. History matters, but if you are staying in that past how is that helping at the moment? Is it wining the club any trophies?
@@Julian.nailuJimagine thinking united are irrelevant. Whenever united lose the whole internet explodes, irrelevant tho
@@Johndoe-gf7eu and who cares about the internet? Is there a section in the museum about this bit? Aaaa yes the 'if we lose, the internet breaks' champions... That's what this club has become. Flexing about anything but it's football. The most important bit.
Why I see plans from other clubs and never someone from the academy . To see what he is doing and are the plans in the buildup . TH knows what he is doing. It’s a buildup in the second year after 10 years crap . Ask the people who know what is happening . Instead asking fans not even see all the Man Utd games.
I am gonna say something controversial ETH is better than Arteta I give it to the coming session lets see where they all finish.
He already finished ahead of him twice so why would the third season finish decide it lol
@@elarabymohammed1 time , Arteta hasnt won anything apart from FA cup. Ten has at least when he was with Ajax. Actually Arsenal will loose tomorrow.
@djuojay by your logic , this is Arteta's 1st gig as the head. He's only been a coach for less than 5 years, but Ten Hag has a body of work more than 10 years at the job.
Deluded
There's nothing to learn. The manager dictates the fortunes of a football club. Arteta was a shot in the dark and Arsenal hit on him, but he still needs to win a major trophy. It's Pep's era right now. United need to find the right man for the job, if they believe it's Ten Hag then back him, if not then get rid and find someone else.
There's always something to learn, both clubs fell from grace so they needed to get back to challenging again, Arsenal have done that using a blueprint that United could copy. Arteta's first job was to mend a broken relationship with the supporters, he went about that, then the recruitment strategy changed from the second season, going for young but experienced players. He always took the blame on himself, he said 'my chest is here, hit me guys'. And for a first job he's challenging Pep and Klopp, that by itself is remarkable unless of course you are all about trophies and no process!