What Happened To John Carpenter's Halloween?
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- Despite it being made for only $300K, John Carpenter slasher classic would go onto become the most profitable Indie film until Blair Witch came along. From the William Shatner mask, to trying to get Dennis Quad to play Linda's boyfriend, there's plenty of interesting tidbits about the film. So let's see what happened to John Carpenter's Halloween.
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The opening reveal to the murderer being a little boy is still effective to this day. Jamie Lee Curtis also impressed in her first major role!
And the same thing happened with the adult parody! Jamie Lee Clitoris also impressed in her first major role in that industry, Halloweenie! The chemistry between her and the actor playing Michael Plowhers was electric ⚡
A perfect example of you don't need gore and body parts everywhere to make a good horror film.
The 78 original is my absolute favorite horror movie and one of my favorites of all time of any genre
I agree with Donald Pleasence. It's better not knowing anything about Loomis other than the fact that he's hunting Michael. LOL, it's almost the same as you don't really need to know Michael's backstory.
Everyone that seems younger NEEDS to be fed all these reasons why with backstory and exposition. I don't get it.
@@christopherdell9601it’s a lot of give and take. People want answers but not all of them …. They just don’t know that
This is the one movie I could/and have watched countless times! Just never gets old or tiring. The most fun is watching it on the big screen! I never got a chance to when it first came out, seeing as how I was only a year old at the time. lmao But over the last 10 years or so I think I've seen it at the theater like 6 or something!
I'm a Kansas City native and was lucky enough to catch Halloween on opening night at the tender age of 11. I didn't find out until 2007 that I had seen the film before the rest of the planet and I've taken fans to the spot where it opened. Fast forward 45 years and I've caught them all on opening night, even Halloween 5 and Halloween Kills. Interesting trivia, Paull Rudd of Halloween 6 and a few other films grew up a few miles from me. Tom Kane, Loomis voice actor from H20 (along with a ton of other voice roles) went to my elementary school although he was some years ahead of me.
Donald Pleasence there is no replacing him.
technically there is, because he's dead. sad times.
@@cbawitlife That's why I boycotted the Zombie films...because they tried.
@@tgriffin3059 what about halloween kills?
@@cbawitlife I refused to see the new trilogy on different grounds. They cancelled out all the sequels. Well, 3 of those sequels are among my favorite movies. But had I known that they would try to introduce Loomis into Kills, that would have been one more reason I'd have stayed away. The fact is, I have been slapped in the face again and again by the people who make these films. They have made clear that they do not want my money. So I'll give them their way.
Nice! Micheal Myers is a universal monster at this point, like Frankenstein and Dracula, and his story will always be retold and reshaped for new stories and generations. Some of those films will be atmospheric slashers like 78, Part 4 and Kills. Others will be weird like Season of the Witch, Part 6 and Ends, and I love every single one of them and cant wait to see the next timeline.
An absolute masterclass in film making that still holds up 45 years later! Nothing at all happened to Halloween! They've been unsuccessfully attempting to duplicate it for decades. Never gonna happen!
What happened? It became a masterpiece 🎃🔪
Totally agree! And Michael Myers became a legend!!
I was six or seven the night Halloween debuted on HBO. I can remember my father calling me over to watch the end of the film with him. I can remember sitting on his lap when Michael chased Laurie back to Tommy Doyle's house. I remember thinking what is it that would scare my old man so. Then Michael sat bolt up right and the two of us freaked out! Thankfully, moments later, Dr. Loomis appears and shot Michael clean off the balcony. I thought, finally it's over. That's when my old man whispered in my ear, "How much you wanna bet, he isn't there?"
And he wasn't!
I was petrified. Not only was Michael still alive and on the loose, but my old man was a psychic!!
His premise for Halloween 4 sounded amazing. I wish more of those ideas were present in the new trilogy
yes, i agree! his premise sounds much more interesting than the last trilogy. keep in mind that carpenter was also offered a shot at directing an even later era halloween sequel. they asked for his idea and he said he wanted to shoot michael myers into outer space! it was rejected, but evidentally someone at the other 'camp' liked it enough to make jason X. in halloween : the curse loomis listens in to a radio talk show about myers and a caller states 'why don't they just shoot him into outer space?' also, halloween II 1981 was ALMOST shot in 3-d, but the studio didn't want to cough up the dough. and ... back when cannon owned the rights to texas chainsaw masaacre, they wanted to make a michael myers vs. leatherface film!
Agreed
@@johnrunion5357 From what I understand, Carpenter's pitch for 4 was that Michael was going to be brought back more from Haddonfield's fear of him. I guess though that Akkad was afraid it would be compared too much to Elm Street. I kinda get it, though. That was in the middle of Freddy Mania.
@@CustodianVirgil that is one idea carpenter had. later he was asked again and replied he wanted to shoot michael into space.
@@johnrunion5357 lol a classic Carpenter troll. From what I've read, he was fed up with Halloween at that time.
Bought this and H2 on a double vhs cassette at around 13yrs old. Watched both that night in bed and never looked back! Was my first taste into the Halloween franchise after growing up with Freddy and Chucky.
Halloween is also the first supernatural slasher before the Freddy's and Jason's and Chucky's etc, etc which I also love, the originality of the concept of what Michael Myers is.
The first will always be my all time favorite 💕🎃
Greatest horror movie in history.
Fight me!
I grew up in the golden era of VCR. John Carpenter's movies were the best.
I saw this film on television for the first time when I was like 13 or 14 years old and had a terrible night after it 😀
Still Halloween & Friday the 13th got the Best Atmosphere in all of Horror Movies...
Oh yeah I Forgot Fright Night also. In my Humble Opinion!!!
The Original is Still
The All-Time Champion.
Forget the sequels and remakes.
And wannabes movies that followed this like Friday the 13th.
Several of the sequels are outstanding.
@@titusmccarthy Friday the 13th is not a Halloween wannabe. The first one is closer to Agatha Christie than John Carpenter...
Michael Myers The OG of Horror 🗡
Yeah he is way before Jason and Freddy
@@genecide6869 😈👍
Hell yeah
thanks for this. FINALLY some love AND respect for halloween 1978. most videos now give credit to friday the 13th 1980, which would literally NOT even exist if not for halloween, for starting the slasher cycle of the late 70's-early 80's. friday did add gore, but it was a halloween copy cat. they did not have the technical skills of carpenter and co. so they HAD to go for the shock of the gore. in 1980 halloween STILL ruled supreme. everyone said it was far scarier than friday. even the opening and the finale of when a stranger calls 1978 ranked higher with horror fans back then than friday. it seems many horror fans TRY to re-write horror history to suit themselves.
When this movie came out, I was five years old we waited for three hours in a long line to see this movie well worth it, but I don’t think today’s young people could take standing in a line that long
The reason the original is talked about the most is due to the way its subtlety in the way Michael methodically stalked Haddonfield. No sequel has tried to take the same approach and it shows.
I was in junior high back in 1978. One Saturday night I was having a sleep over at my buddy's house. He said his older brother was going to treat us to some movie that had just come out called, Halloween. We went and saw it. I had never been so terrified in my young life. That night when it was time for bed my buddy fell a sleep, I stayed awake with the light on. Every couple of hours my buddy would wake up and tell me to turn off the light. I would reply, "Sure, I will in a minute". Needless to say that light stayed on ALL night long. Scary then but now a cherished childhood memory that I wouldn't trade for anything.
What can you say about this film.....but totally amazing
Imagine if Michael Myers fought Jason V, interesting plot twist and fight/Battles.
Nah the whole Jason vs myers thing is corny
"I shot him 6 times!
I shot him in the heart, but ...
He´s not human!"
R.I.P. Donald Pleasence
Wow, did not know that Donald Pleasence refused to call his wife.
It became and has remained the greatest horror movie ever made, almost 45 years later!
I REMEMBER BUYING THIS ON DVD AT BLOCKBUSTER VIDEO BACK IN 2009 AND I FELL IN LOVE WITH THIS MOVIE AND THE KILLS IS SUPERB. WITHOUT A DOUBT MICHAEL MYERS IS KING.
The greatest horror movie ever put to celluloid. My mind cannot and will not be changed.
Great Video of a GREAT Movie 😀
Friday the 13th is my favorite series but Halloween first movie can hold up in 90z 2000 2010's ect. Friday the 13th a little slow like most older movies.
My favorite horror film ever my favorite film across all genres.❤
1978 halloween will always be my favourite 👍
Wow a lot of new info in this video. Props’
I would argue that Italy was making slashers years before the USA
Maybe so but they didn't popularize the genre or push it into the mainstream. Being first isn't any good if you have no momentum.
The Halloween Extended Edition is great.
The key point about “Halloween” that all the copycats (and its own sequels!) kept missing: The charm came from it being a slasher movie without graphic blood and gore, based on the suspense from stalking and the violence we don’t actually see.
What happened to John Carpenter’s Halloween?? It became an all time horror classic and has only aged like fine wine! Love. This. Movie.
One of the GOATs
If there was a horror movie that never needed sequels it's the original Halloween.
John Carpenter's Halloween is already 45 years old!
Made over $70 million worldwide being made for only a few thousand dollars
Still remains the most successful independent movie ever made and created the slasher movie blueprint for decades to follow
This made Jamie Lee Curtis a household name and a bonafide scream queen/final girl
The late Donald Plesance gives probably his most iconic performance too
Both of them are the backbone of this story
Yeah it takes over an hour for things to get moving but it's perfectly suspenseful and expertly filmed
Everything from the long camera angles to the hidden cues in the background to long shots full of empty space inside where something will pop out
Carpenter also does wonders with the iconic score
The ending is also the most memorable with Curtis putting up a fight being smart, resourceful, and relatable; this story is overall a loss of virginity for Laurie but since she doesn't go through with it she survives
Pleasance also gives this very in-depth speech summing up why Michael is not human and irredeemable
The success of this would also inevitably lead to 12 more installments all from various timelines (a choose your own adventure) making one of the longest-running franchises in horror history
Carpenter always refers to the villain as the Shape, something that moves in the shadows, hidden, and without rhyme or reason
It also adds to the urban legend of him being the boogeyman in the neighborhood the kids often talk about, nobody can kill him 'Halloween' is a classic for all time while popularizing and defining the subgenre paving the way for other slasher icons with great artistry thanks to John Carpenter
Im still wondering if anyone found the body next to the abadon truck.
An Awesome👏🏻😎🤩Low Budget Film!
Favorite
If Christopher Lee got the role of Dr. Loomis he probably wouldn't be as good as Donald pleasance
There’s actually 12 movies and seven timelines.
There's 13.
the Shat is on the phone
Corrections:
John Carpenter was 30 when he shot Halloween.
The budget was $325,000.
Donald Pleasance was paid $25,000. Otherwise you were spot on.
"Spliff it up"? 🤣
So Great !!!❤🎃
A masked mental Guy in a converted Kirk Mask...
Great movie
🎃 130 days 'til Halloween Silver Shamrock ☘️
This film has aged like wine.
I bet they spliffed it up
I came to his home in Cape An, and asked for my chunks.
The narrator sounds like the filmmaker John waters
A damn classic,that's all I'm going to say.
Halloween is just something you cant remake , i feel bad for my generation we have nobody 😂 horror movies need to make a comeback we need new characters
It got turned into endless shitty cash grab sequels and had the biggest injustice in the history of ever getting a Rob Zombie remake!
Sleep with my closet door open because of this movie
You guys used the word vapid to describe Linda... I'm not sure you understand the definition of that word lol.
Yeah, whatever happened to this small little known film?
This is probably the greatest slasher and Blueprint of 80’s and 90’s horror movies. Even some movies today I feel like are influenced by this independent movie
Nah, F the 13th is more influential. Just ask the director of Halloween 2, which tries to mimic the F 13 series. The first Halloween is boring as fuck and I'm sick of people pretending it's not.
@anthonysoto2923 John carpenters halloween is more influential to indie filmaking and cinephiles. Sure friday is more entertaining and popular but Halloween has way more craft and talent behind the camera. I'm not fan of slashers but Halloween caught my intention for how it feels more like Hitchcock film than a average slasher flick.
@@anthonysoto2923you are HILARIOUS.
.... The VERY BEST of all Halloween films! I did like The Return of Michael Myers and Halloween 2018. And thats it!!! All else was total trash.
What happened is the movie was great, and Hollywood got greedy. They forced a sequel and started a snowball of ever growing stupidity in the story and lore.
The 'stupidity' was pretty much centered around 6. After 6, all they've done is make lamer and lamer efforts to start over. The early sequels, that remained relatively true to the original premise, were effective.
Well as the number one fans of this movie lets see how their Canadian narrator screws up the telling of this story.
I digress, he actually did a damn good job on this. Much better than his other screw-ups on some of the other horror movies that he does.
Best Horror movie of all time! The real boogeyman!
One of the best horror movie's of all time the music the suspense and in my opinion they should have stopped with this one
Why?
@@tgriffin3059 It didn't need sequel's
@@jamesmorant1406 The people who paid their hard earned money to see those sequels....and who have continued to buy them on vhs, dvd, and blu ray for the past 4 decades....preferred otherwise. And I'm very glad they did, since several of the sequels are among my favorite films.
@tgriffin3059 It didn't need sequel's should have stopped with this one or Halloween 2
@@jamesmorant1406 No movie 'needs' to be made. There is an audience for it, and people willing to finance it, or there ISN'T. With Halloween, there always has been. Supply and Demand. Great thing about the 80's...the audience was king. If we wanted it, they'd make it...
You can’t kill the boogie man John wick could
What happened? It became a classic that’s what happened lol.
The timelines are actually pretty clear. The latest trilogy just uses the first film. It got real bad in the end.
In his defense, she was supposed to be babysitting him but instead she was getting it on and Michael meanwhile is outside across the street in the dark when the movie begins. So, did she deserve to die? No. But still a shitty babysitter
They should have left the film alone wasn't a fan of new ones seemed bit awful rob zombies Halloween 2 😅
First viewer I think 🎉
Yes, HOWLING 2 was so awful.
There is a current release
actually titled ' The Boogeyman '
that's ranks far above all the
HALLOWEEN sequels combined.
Doubtful
There is really nothing else to say about this. It's the best horror movie of all time..
No it isn't not by a long shot.
Don't we already know what happened? It got ruined by greed.
Sure, people make sequels out of greed. They make the originals for the same reason. Welcome to Earth.
Really?
Almost everybody involved with the film, including Carpenter himself, has said that they needed a mask and, given the low budget that they had to work with, shoplifted the Captain Kirk mask.
Jaime Lee Curtis is now an Oscar winner! She's obviously moved on. Why can't you?!
If Jamie Lee has, indeed, moved on, I can only say...GOOD RIDDANCE!!! That is one DISMALLY ugly old woman.
Halloweeen again?! Yawn! 1981 3 werewolf movies and 1978 Magic lookback. That came out the same year.
Do an anthology as originally planned but we'll keep getting a continuation of the same movie. hollywoodland movies are pretty dull and stop paying to see them until something actually interesting comes along. that will probably take decades.
Yeah, they continued because people wanted to see it. Apparently, they still do. The recent films were quite profitable. There is still a large audience for the basic Halloween premise.
@@tgriffin3059 In these situations and others the people are stupid.
@@filthymcnasty5625 'Stupid'? For going to see something they like? Hardly...No, the word you are seeking is 'unpretentious.' Back then, people just did what they wanted.
@@tgriffin3059 If you can understand for a primate. Where did you get stupid from I didn't type that are you putting your own meaning to what has been typed. Read again to get the point. Type about being pretentious. People said even back then what I've typed.
I treasure 1978's Halloween movie. And the original6 sequels becuz I enjoy Donald Pleasense's Dr Loomis character and performance. I reject the remakes and latest reboot retcon movies that wipe out Dr Loomis characater in the sequels and Pleasense's performance (boo!) and I liked Danielle Harris' character Jamie Lloyd. I just wasnt invested in Laurie Strode and even less invested with them retconning her relation to Michael. No offense to Jamie Lee Curtis, I liked her in True Lies. But that new trilogy makes the claim that Myers is not superhuman...that contradicts 1978's film and with the amount of damage he cops in the new trilogy it contradicts their own claim that he isnt supernatural.
Nobody "wiped out" Dr. Loomis. Donald Pleasance passed away, and they WISELY chose not to recast him.
It was PERFECTION....for it's time and era. It had never been done before like this. It was lightning in a bottle. However, it doesn't hold up with everything that's come afterwards. It's a great story, but definitely overacted. There were innovative camera angles. But by today's standards, it's slow as molasses. The ONLY THING that still holds up with this movie after 45 years, is the MUSIC. I tried to properly remake HALLOWEEN after the Rob Zombie failures. The Weinstein Company/DIMENSION FILMS owned the rights at the time, and in 2013 they were holding a screen writers competition on Facebook. And they wouldn't let me participate because I wasn't IN the United States at the time. I was overseas, serving my country. After the failed UNIVERSAL STUDIOS Pineapple Express Trilogy(H40, HALLOWEEN KILLS, and HALLOWEEN ENDS), there's only one way to properly restart HALLOWEEN from scratch. It needs to be turned into a streamed series. More than likely on Peacock. Completely changing the story for the better to modernize it. With no woke garbage permitted.
Slow as molasses? Maybe if every contemporary horror film wasn't in a rush TO GET NOWHERE you would beg to differ. The pacing is superb in Halloween. No one can or HAS been able to match what Carpenter did with this film. It's not just that there is little death and gore in this film, its that you are forced to canvass the entire frame. I've seen a lot of films that come out "We're Carpenter-esque" and they really aren't. There's so much going on in the mise en scene that goes unnoticed. The use of colors, the frame, everything hasn't been fully grasped since he did it in '78.
Sad to see that the death of the human attention span began with the Boomers and they passed it on to the Zoomers.
@@xensan76 good thing I’m neither.
@@dustinhogle3844 Can't fool me, Boomer. The random capitalization of entire words gives it away.
@@xensan76 Bahahahaha
They need to let ends be the end. I love Michael since the 70. I started hating Jason after the final chapter. A maggot head running around is stupid and unrealistic. Let Michael stay dead there is nothing left now accept butchering a icon as this point. Let it die and let’s just rewatch the ones made and remember how awsome he was. No more Jason’s!!!!
Nothing, nothing happened to Halloween 1978, its a classic. What you need to do is ask what happened to Halloween Ends, thats the real investigation 🗣
It was chewed up and shit out by Rob Zombie and Danny Mcbride thats what happened.
Halloween is not without its flaws. Terrible dialogue and some of the performances are ridiculously amateurish. Halloween is ok but it's definitely NOT the best horror film ever made.
Unpopular opinion but the first Halloween is boring as all hell and is my least rewatched out of the big three. It's on par with the boring first entry into the Friday the 13th series.
The slower pace allows for immersion...but immersion requires an imagination.
@@tgriffin3059 it's a boring old b movie slasher with tame gore and a slow SLOWWWWWWW pace. I just don't get it with these fanboys at all. Fk I watch season of the witch waayyyyy more than Halloween. That's saying something about the lack of quality in the original. I can't help but feel that all the die hards for Halloween 1 aren't being 100 percent honest with themselves.
@@anthonysoto2923 The deliberate pace is part of the brilliance. It begins to feel like real-time, so that when things DO begin to happen, it's as if you're watching real events unfold.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The only good Halloween film is Halloween 3.
2, 4, and 5 are all outstanding.
Donald Pleasance, Jamie Lee Curtis, and the character of Myers seem to be operating in an entirely different and better movie than the rest of the cast. Whenever the three main characters are on screen its a gothic experience, when ths rest of the cast shows up, its a student film. Not sure if this Carpenter's intention or just happened.
REVISED and more objective RATINGS
HALLOWEEN 1978 10/10 Come on! You knew this would be the 10/10
H VI PC ✝ 9.5/10 ✝Dying Dr. Loomis X Mentally Scarred Tommy = PHENOMENAL! ✝
RZ (with alt end on DVD) 9.5/10 JLC is good. But Malcolm McDowell rules!
H V 9.5/10 Chilling, Comical, Ends With Bang!
H KILLS 9/10 It's a Hunter's Moon! Loved Cast Reunion!
H III 8/10 It was unrelated. But SO WHAT?!
H IV 8/10 No real flaws to honest.
H ENDS 7/10 Healed wounds from RESURRECTION. But then flaws appear.
H II 6/10 With alt end where Jimmy lives.
H VI 6/10 Loved first half. But you had to change the ending.
RZ 2007 5/10 Loved first half. But another male hero had to be degraded.
H2O 4/10 Loved the first half. But them the Mary Sue came in.
H II 3/10 You had a great ending. And you had to change it.
H 2018 2/10 Can we please bash the male characters more?
RZ II 1/10 Oh wow. It's better than RESURRECTION.
RESURRECTION zero! This need surprise no one!
Highly overrated. Slow, terrible acting. Good theme though.
The Rob Zombie remakes sucked ass. Just a bunch of unnecessary cussing and blood. The new ones (2018) were stupid af, also.
Eh, this movie’s documentary has been done SO MANY TIMES. Pointless to do your own.