"CURSE ON THE GYPSIES" --- Part 1 of 2 (Excellent Documentary!!)
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- "Curse on the Gypsies" is a one hour History Channel Documentary that aired in the late 1990's and then quickly disappeared, becoming unavailable and out of print. It tells the story of how Linguists traced the historical roots and true origin of the Gypsies back to their original homeland. A fascinating look at the history of the Roma culture over the last thousand years. Watch now before the video disappears again.
This video is from a 1990's videotape recording of the TV program. The videotape was copied to DVD, then the DVD was copied to the Computer and the MP4 video file downloaded to CZcams.
See Part 2 here: • "Curse on the Gypsies"...
Sorry, Part 3 failed to upload after several attempts.
I review comments but I do not get involved in a battle of opinions. Watch the movie for information and learning purposes. Realize that Poverty and oppression can force people to live outside of society's rules in a quest for survival. So do not judge, criticize, and generalize a race of people until you walk in their shoes, or bare feet as the case may be.
In 1920 a caravan of Gypsies were passing thru my family’s town. One day they approached my Great Grandmother and asked if she could help feed their baby. She agreed to help and they left their beautiful infant daughter with her. Promising to come back for her. They never came back and that beautiful baby became my Aunt Dot. One of the best, most wonderful people I’ve ever known. Our family still treasures the pretty little orange dress with red embroidery she was wearing that day.
@Win that’s exactly right! Just more love!
Hi , Do you have photo of that dress?
Gypsies's ancestors and my ancestors use to live together
Wow!
How do you say they never came back but you still have your aunt??? You confused me ma'am
My best friend in middle school was a Gypsie. I was young and I didn't know anything about their social stigma. She was a straight A student and her dad was a hardworking man. She was an only child and was such a good person. She would even share her small allowance with me. I just learned now what people are saying about them here on CZcams. Her mom would even invite me to have dinner with them at their house. She was originally from Hungary and came to the U.S. a child. The Gypsies I met were good people.
Thank You. Racist Cruel People Do Exist. Say We Are The Savages Yet History Sings A Song Differently.
Well she was definitely not normal because they don't usually send their kids to school
@@beverleylumb8048 that really varies a lot between communities now adays, i'm a university student as is my three siblings. But there are still people taking the kids out of school at an early age.
Listen im a gypsy i can tell u that even the worst of our ppl if u came to them that u need food or u hungry and they have as a little bit they will share it with you even after they will not have anything but stilk with out thinking we will not let u go with hunger.. but if u came and tell them us.. that we worst of the worst ppl they will curse u out .. we are very very simple ppl just many cant see into us .. romani means in our language human .. and we are the most human likes like majority of them good hearted ppl
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and knowledge about us, my best friend was a Philipino we still keep in contact for the past 10 years... PHILIPPINOS ARE THE MOST POLITE PEOPLE I HAVE EVER MET IN MY LIFE!!
And thanks to my Asian friends they made me smile laugh and be good person and made me feel like I was equal just as them and they were the ones that made me to be a proud Gypsy rom... I will never forget my roots and my culture...
I disagree with many of the commenters. I was born in Mexico city, and when I was about ten, I met a group of gypsies who lived in a big old house ( I don't know if rented or their own) a couple of blocks from my house
They befriended me and my friends and invited us to eat with them.
They didn't have any furniture in their living room, but carpets and cushions, where they sat to eat.
The women were house keepers, and most of the men worked in a nearby garden as gardeners and manteinance workers.
They never stole anything from us, and they entertained us with tales of magic.
My mom told me to invite them to our house and so I did. They were honest and reliable friends.
Rocío Aguilera ..... Lovely ❤️‼️
S K thank you. Little ass is probably 13 yrs old.
I am sure glad no other races do that . Think about how uneducated you sound .
S K I’m a American gypsy my family came on the boat from Romania all though I choose to deal with people in my community only there are many gadre aka non gypsies that are close members of the family and are considered family once we accept you your family for life I speak for American gypsies can’t speak for the tem aka gypsies from other places then the us
off the grid people
Back when History channel showed actual History . Now its a reality show channel
Just now? Lol it’s been a reality show channel more than a decade
I now call them the hillbilly channel
So the history of the persecution of the Roma people isn't "history"..
So what's "history" by your defintion?
You're right. Watch - Gypsy child theives documentary
"Reality" show channel...
Can we all agree that what has happened to the history channel over the years is nothing short of a crime!?
Kenneth Kellogg I concur.
I don't even subscribe to cable no more cause it's mostly trash..
Agreed
amene to that
It's due to the democratization of media. Now almost every American has TV and cable in their home, so now the History Channels programs must appeal to a wider general audience. Since, no matter how unsettling the fact, there are differences in people. The democratization of media has had the unintended consequences of killing artistic quality. If you want something that's of quality, then don't make it something 'everyone' can appreciate and understand-- don't democratize it. "For everyone or for all" equals of no aesthetic value. CZcams has higher quality media, because one person or a few people are expressing what they find valuable this has its negative consequences, but it's also the formulation that facilitates high quality media.
My grandma's family was Hungarian gypsies and its something she never talked about and I only found out about well after she passed. Wish I would have knew sooner to actually learn this history sooner, but it's neat learning about a culture I never knew about.
Love from Hungary ❤
Mine too!
Possibly a good book to read is bury me standing
@@rodneymacomber6337 A great title for a book
If you were a hungarian gipsy now, you wouldn't want to talk about either.
We are ppl. There are good roma and there are bad roma. There are good people and there are bad people, human. Peace and love around the world
Blessings
Well said.
Ft
They escaped from India and people gave them name Roma or Gypsy , they wouldn’t say where they were from or talk about it…. I wander what was so bad that they fled early 1970 and 1980
This.
Two years ago when the RomaTaxi
driver in Bucharest almost understood my conversation with my wife in the
native tongue of Rajasthan, a north western state, I decided to spend time on
this and find out how.. According to records Roma left India around 1050. They
were the tired soldiers of the army of great Rajput King Prithviraj Chauhan who
fought 17 wars with Mahmood gajnavi. All Roma belong to warrior tribes. They
did not want to fight and some went west and some went down to south India
where they still are in their red and yellow colour clothes and huge moustache.
On the way,Roma took words from Persian (like bibi for Kaki) and many other
tongues including Greek( drost for road). They somehow lost their last names of
fine Rajput warrior tribes . Roma may try to find surnames like Sisodia,
Chauhan, Shekhawat, Nainavat etc. But they kept first Indian names until 19th
century like Bihari and his daughter Panna of Romania, both great musicians.
Today Roma use many of the words from Rajasthani, Hindi and of Sanskrit origin.
Few are ek do trin yak nak bal angusth bersh diwas sassu sussro saalo Sali
chora chori cior(chor) gia sov kammes thalle upral purano maal and so on.
Romani words are from pre Muslim era in India and hence pure Sanskrit lik hiv
for snow or ice.Please go to the following in CZcams to see more. “Romani an
Indo Aryan Language” and “Roma girl from Kosovo finds her roots in India” All
Roma had moustache which was necessary for Rajput warriors. Purity codes of
Roma are still practiced in India like a lady not entering the kitchen during
few days of the month. Roma break the plate if animal licks it. My mother used
to give them to beggars. Roma had also carried our proverbs like” while
choosing a daughter in law believe your ears more than eyes” meaning reputation
of the girls family was more important than her beauty. Would native Europeans
choose a daughter in law? Roma eventually lost their religion but Sara kali of
southern France has favourite Rajput deity of Goddess kali. The deity is
immersed in water body like we do in Rajasthan. “ Dr. HancockDr. Ian Hancock:
Keynote Address at Romani Studies Conference, UC Berkeley There should be no
doubt that Roma are our lost pral and Pena. Hats off to them to keep the
language and culture alive even after 50 generations while we melt away in two
generations. Any Roma may communicate with me on shree709@gmail.com
I am a 65 years old factory owner from Hyderabad, India originating from
Rajasthan where Roma come from.
It is very happy that you noticed us, I hope the Indians and the Gypsies unite soon.
@@georgivekilski3054 I have read so much about Roma. I am in regular contact with an Italian Roma Adriano, who calls me kakosa. I know so much about you all.
I am sure you are part of us. From Rajasthan or Rajputana as it was known.
Other parts of India have nothing in common. It is only one state in India.
I have a Roma maid ( who came to South India during same time) and I exchange her words with Adriano. Hundreds are same.
We lost them as our family left Rajasthan only 100 years ago. You maintain the classic language.
Best of luck.
@x y I have given talks on this subject to interested groups, mostly with Rajasthani origin.
Please read about Prithviraj Chauhan and generally on Rajputs. You will be proud of your ancestry.
I am not a Rajput but from trader community of Rajasthan, while you are from warrior or soldier community. Any king has to be a Rajput anywhere in India.
Write to me for any question.
@@shree709The Rajputs are patriots and soldiers from North India, sir, which I don't understand why the great Prithviraj Chauhan spared Muhammad Ghori when he defeated him in battle 18 times. This means that he was a great leader who made the wrong decision about his enemy. I should have killed Muhammad long before.
@@georgivekilski3054 Yes. You are right. An enemy should not be spared no matter weak or strong.
The history also says that after 18th war Prithviraj Chauhan was captured by Ghori and blinded. Later Ghori wanted to see his archery as a blind person who could send the arrow kust by noise without seeing the object.
And he killed Ghori in this demonstration.
Iam a proud Roma ❤ 🙏 .. and it’s a miracle that we survived as humans and our language music dance our culture survived with us with out a country since the 10th century while we were hunted down slaved tortured mass murded that’s us 💪🏼 ❤ 🙏 .. and I love all of our tribes ❤
Yes Frank tell the world the whole truth we've sufferd
Sa O Roma, babo babo, sa O Roma odaje
@@ccn8741is
Probably the most peacefull culture , to think they never gone to war in so many centuries . The only thing Is that i wonder what Is the filosofy that kept so many pepole together for so long.
I'm from the uk and whenever the gypsy ladies would knock on the door selling pegs , ribbons and lace my mum would always buy some and invite them in for tea and cake 🙂 ❤
Good documentary. I'd met Tom Merino in 2000 when he had been hired to do a film project for a local arts mansion in my hometown. I'd been 16, and invited to be a production assistant, and I enjoyed working with him on that project a lot. He treated me with respect, and I heard he had raved to my parents about my excellent work.
I can honestly say that from my own experience people will take advantage of you the first chance they get, and it makes no difference what race they are. Conning people, scamming people and getting over on people; is a problem in all races. I watched my dad, a kind, generous man; get taken advantage of all the time. Race doesn't matter.
Yes Amen.
You got it
❤
sounds like gypsy talk
Cuteladybug, May GOD ALMIGHTY BLESS YOU .....very true statement here.
My grandfather was raised by gypsies, and he had his physical features, his way of dressing, he even wore gold jewelry. I believe that he was the son of gypsies and that when he lost his parents he was raised by the rest of his family, an aunt or something like that.
You should get help to find his history , you’d be very happy to learn it .
Your ancestors are Indian 😁
@@kasturipillay6626 If you're right! He had that phenotype, brown skin, green eyes, not very tall, and thin. I had never analyzed him that way. I'm happy about that !!! 🙏😂
@@validesultana 🥳🥳🥳👍
@@validesultana that is why I realized that I was Roma 2% of the population has hazel eyes and of course being thin with curves and arched eyebrows Fuller lips darker complexion. I did hear that they DNA tested to the Atlantis region Neolithic era, which is where Hazel and blue eyes black hair blonde and redhead originated genetically. so I'm wondering if that wasn't the actual origin then start migration towards India and then back up again
My favourite book of all time? "The Gypsies" by Jan Yoors. At age 17 in the 1970's it was a second bible to me, alone & on my own in the world. Valuable lessons about indifference to the material world & acquiring possessions.
I want to check out that book now! Thank you!
What’s it about?
Love the idea 'indifference to the material world'... Wise!
@@JohnSmith-rk6jy It's the true story about a young european boy, the son of artists, who by a fluke of fate becomes the adopted son of a family of gypsies & lives with them for many years, while still maintaining contact with his parents. It's about the lifestyle & value system, the ways of survival of these gypsies & the various gypsies family groups they meet along the way. It's about freedom & adventure & an unshackled love of life. He also wrote two more books on gypsies: the Gypsies of Spain, with lots of photos, and, Crossings about WWII & coming to America.
Thanks for the recommendation I’m gonna check this book out! My father came from gypsy decent…I didn’t know him well…my mom took me to another state to keep me away from my fighting, partying, bad gypsy family! I wish I had known them better…especially my father…he was a different kinda a man with little to no education…with 22 brothers and sisters I know he had a rough life!
I am a traveling train riding hitchhiking hobo. I can understand and relate to most of what the Roma have had to go threw as we hobos are treated the same way. LEOs harassing because we ain't part of their town, people turning you down for work when they supposedly need people. People thinking they can go threw your stuff when ever they want ect. It's infuriating but I live a free life style that only most people can dream of.
I would love to hear more, my friend. 🙏🏾
To the Texas Roadrunner: the blues music sometimes tells the story of a hobo...Are there still real " hobos" in the USA? It needs a lot of courage to be constantly on the road... And the solitude!!!
I rode trains like that a couple of times yrs ago, it was fun but not fun enough to want to do as a lifestyle.
Even Hobos have a cellphone and internet.... AIN'T IT JUST AIN'T IT 😜 lols.... I use to Hobo trains around the hills of Virginia... I knew there schedule.... Mostly Coal trains and timber and lumber in around the Coalmines and Coal camp.... Just so happens the lumber yard was near my destination as where the Coal was being delivered as well 😎...
How do you eat?
For the past 10 years I have been friends with a Romani family they are some of the greatest people I've ever met in my life they would do anything for you I have gotten so close with one of them that I call him my uncle I love the Romani culture I love listening to them speak in their native tongue I have had dinners with them we have gone out together they have made me feel like I'm one of the family
We love u too 🙏
I love other cultures, have nothing against anyone. But let me tell you about when I was 17, I worked at a Sheraton hotel in Billings Mt. The gypsies rented out many floors as they were having a wedding. The other maid gave me one of their floors. I was pregnant with my first daughter so they thought they would be nice to me. They were, especially the grandma, who talked to me so long, when I went to my maids cart everything was stolen off it! Lol good memories
Well i don't know much about gypsies but i wonder how they survive
Lol At least they paid by renting the rooms. Tour groups and other hotel guests including hotel staff grab whatever they can off the carts, more often the high quality expendables.
My Panni from Poland used to tell me that the "black Irish" had the same reputation ,kinda,as gypsies.....labeled people,just as today.✌️
I went out with a gypsy girl for awhile.A genuine Hungarian speaking gypsy. She told me she was going to change peoples minds about gypsies cause everyone was wrong thinking they were thieves. Then she stole a hundred dollars from my sixteen year old son. Good times.
Yeah working in a hotel that happens a lot 🤣
I’m a Roma and I’m very proud of it. Opre!
Con San??
Punjabi girl 👏👏
Con san means kaun se
Indian people ✌️
My last name is OPRE and my grandfather was from Northeast Hungary. I have no info other than that. I’ve always believed I had a Gypsy spirit but when I asked my father of the possibility.....I was basically told to shut up. Please message me if you have any info that might help me establish my roots
i had heard all the stories, when a group of 4 horse drawn traditional wooden horse drawn carriges stopped to camp near my town. This was about 20 years ago in the UK. I went round the camp site armed with a massive block of cheese, 4 loaves of proper nice bread and 3 bottles of vodka. My only intention was to learn more about them. What a fun, drunken night! They treated the "tourist" so patiently and told me so many stories, knowing that,that is what i was there for. I walked the 3miles home and still had some tobacco left for the morning.
I would enjoy hearing them tell stories too
Nice way to explore!
Lovely anecdote.
Not the same people as in the east. We have a settlement of them right near me in russia 40 houses but there are hundreds live in shanty houses and many chldren literally smell like putrid grabage. Theyre also not lliterate. My area is considerd extremely dangerous for the city.
@@Lyle-xc9pg No running water, no electricity, the working-age adults being shut out from the job market and the children from the local school system - you are right, that does produce dirty, smelly illiterate people...
I married a Czech gypsy, and it took his mother until her death to accept me LoL....my girls are exceptionally beautiful, and very proud of their lineage! History has not been kind to these people and it's time to honor their wonderful culture 😔
True!
czcams.com/video/aNUYGRn3W9Q/video.html
@@deepakpanwar6204 I've watched this...it's amazing 🐍
@@michellebattersby3243 I am an Indian and I felt that we also should know about them with more-2 details. Tnx for checking it :) :)
Are you crazy?
I'm an American living in Romania for the last 8 years. There are many gypsies here. They do wear long skirts, they collect metal for the scrap yard, they live differently for sure, they are louder than the Romanians. I was almost robbed on the metro but being from Chicago I'm always on guard. I felt someone behind me on the train, felt a slight touch on my purse, and I turned to see a Romanian woman (not a gypsy) with her hand still in my purse. I yelled at her and pushed her. Because I spoke in English she backed away from me like I was from outer space, lol. I've never had any bad encounters with gypsies.
And you know she wasn't a gypsy how? BECAUSE SHE WASN'T WEARING LONG SKIRTS? Moron.
How did you know it was Romanian?? Many gypsy are blonde...
True. Gypsies in Romania are dressed as romanians, not necessarily in those "long skirts" às you say. That behaviour, pickpocketing, is specific to gypsies.
Maybe she was a gypsy. I didn't ask her, lol. As for wearing long skirts, many still do. I work with a few gypsies (they themselves say they are) and no, they are not wearing the long skirts.
I worked with a woman from India. I asked her if there were any Romany people still living in India-- like some that may have stayed behind or others who went back-- and she had no clue as to what I was talking about, nor has she ever heard of those people. She did say that 'if' there are Romanys still living in India, they would be living in the hills and outskirts of the main cities of Calcutta or Bombay. They referred to those particular people as 'Hill People'.
She was almost right without a clue. But not the ' hill people' they refer to today, who are north easternrrs and have mongoloid features. But gypsies were ' hill people': of ancient central india, specifically Banjara Hills, which is now the poshest part of Hyderabad, Capital of Telangana State.
@Zodinthara-jo5yi That is interesting. Are there any Romany people left in India though?
@@CreekTribe No, not anymore. Those ancient people of Banjara Hills, were not exactly a tribe, but a caste. Which means they used to be from the mainstream society but according to some folktale, were condemned by the priest or king to roam around forever or until some particular time. It's is not strange as Hinduism can be very strang, like theres the thugees, from which the word thugs came, who were religiously condemned to rob and kill strangers by strangulation and have a seperate Goddess Bhavani. In the light of some aspect of Hinduism, I am not surprised by the fate of the Romany people too.
@Zodinthara-jo5yi This is awesome! I'm completely amazed and yet blown away by all of this history I barely knew anything about.
Most of the Gypsies that the United States is familiar with are the Romanchal. Which are a mixture of English and Romany --Not to insult your intelligence by any means. I've noticed that Romanchals do not have the Eastern Indian features, but more like Mediterranean. Often times, they will pass themselves off as Italian or Greek to avoid persecution.
I used to watch that one series, My Big Fat American Gypsy Wedding, but I can't say for certain if those are real Gypsies. It's an interesting show....very 'Over the Top'.
My father told me that even in the United States, many Eastern Europeans, along with the first generation Americans, will show disdain towards Gypsies; which he was correct about, because I've seen it first hand. I've been criticized for my refusal to share those prejudices with those from the Hungary-Romania region. When my grandparents were children in Appalachia, there were traveling showagons that would come through their towns. These showagons were huge in the early to mid 20th century, and they consisted of a variety of performance arts. Many Gypsies would travel with these Showagons, partaking in the activities. The locals were often warned to keep their children close because of the phrase "Here Come the Gypsies". And just like in this documentary, people used to believe that they stole children. That belief was definitely nationwide and not secluded.
Gypsies Are a mixture of ethnicities, hence they’re melanated in skin and eyes as in they’re not considered white.
I grew up in Latvia in 1980s. there was a distinct Gypsy (Rrom, as I learned from this feature) neighborhood. They sold hashish for living. (I went there sometimes) I thought at that time that it was a scary neighborhood, but now that I recall it there was nothing scary but the occasional corrupt police raids. The people were nice and there were always flowers in their apartments.
Idolising drug dealers? Great....
@@nerylhales1857
Which part of my comment gave you the idea to refer to it as "idolizing" ?
@@nerylhales1857 The word 'apartment' should be your clue. To rent an apartment you need money either from work or .....selling hash. I'd prefer they sell hash than grift and steal. Is it ideal? No. Is it causing harm? Probably not much. My government sells hash.
My ex son in law is Rom I found the culture fascinating!. I also was saddened for all they went through! I loved the food!! Speaking of music his brother is very famous in Bosnia as a musician.
Long days and pleasants nights
Cool. I know there is a community of this people in Huntsville Alabama
Iam a filipino from philippines.Lately I've been wacthing documentaries among rohingya minorities of burma. Also heard of about gypsies stories of world war 2. How these people were slaughtered,massacred,persecuted that sort of things. Now, I've just got this question: "What's the difference between the corpse of a prince and the corpse of a gypsy??" Same thing as: "If a king died today,and a gypsy man died also. Would there be any difference between their dead bodies??" There will be no difference except that the dead king will be given a royal funeral with a lot of honors,while there's nothing on the gypsy man except the grieve of his loveones. We are all the same. No matter how genius a man is,,once he died there will be nothing of him.
Yes
the difference isn't the dead body the difference is a mans character. are they cheaters liars and beggars? seems that way
You are a person gypsy .the real name of gypsy in England needy boy I am . One must learn not what words say but what they mean religion come upon gypsy religion think gypsy not understand what they no for what the gypsy no would make most religions crumble should not a starving child just take if they are hungry instead of being offered should I ask a lord if I can drink at a riverside or should I just drink .my people forget where they come from because the last place we came from we got murdered we have always been moved on for 10 thousand years we have had to follow religion because if not we die all religion has forced my people's legs apart .because for who they are gods people .can you imagine the world if the church came out and said jesus was a gypsy and his people are the real gods people .any one who needs to no about religion should look in to Buddhist it's the closest thing to it
Bro live with them and see if you will still feel the same afterwards.
@@kimzafra Bro I have .never talk of the poor and their needs you will curse yourself and your family bro
I remember when this was broadcast. Thank you so much for posting.
My cousin’s husband is from gypsies. Their kids have blond hair and dark skin and eyes. They look very different than the rest of my family but in a good way. They are beautiful children.
In the UK Gypsies will refer to themselves as eg a White Lea or a black Lea, a white Sheridan or a black Sheridan etc . Within one family some children will be very fair or very dark.
I'm part Gypsy, part Jew, part Slav. None of my ancestors had a homeland. Its no mystery why I've wandered my whole life.
@@niteblaster1 that sounds like a you problem.
Wow interesting
Answer is india
And slavic nations what???
Jews are Semitic. Gypsies are Indian. Slavs are Baltic.
I just saw a group at a hotel. A female from the group literally started a small fire near the property, in the grass, and cooked up some food! I was impressed.
Interesting. When I was a kid I was absolutely fascinated with them. I read every book about them. I found the women and girls to be very strong and beautiful.
Gypsy women are the best!
To summarise gypsies emigrated from the northern regions of India around 1500 years ago.
minnie mouse no, the basques lived and stayed in romania
@- - thats today.
the basque are original gypos
they are also a genetic outlier.
the gypsies of today are very different than the people called the same word thousands of years ago, or even hundreds.
look at who is called a Nasi today vs when germany was going to war with the world
different ppl.
make sense?
but yea, the basque ppl have an outstanding history ppl dont talk about.
they know they are from atlantis and have accounts of where it was and how it happened to fall.
makes a lot of sense when you look at their explanation, and follow the genetics of ppl. thet literally go hand in hamd.
also, dont trust the dates ppl use. every country/cult had its own dating system.
ad 0 could have literaly been 500 years ago.
minnie mouse we are not from India you dumb ass
not true
The word Gypsy comes from the word Egypt, also know to mean those from little Egypt
And Gypsies/Romani’s are an Indo-Aryan race, This means that they come from a time where aryan warrior race was mixing with Dravidian like races of India, Warriors and peacekeepers
And Romani’s along with many other cultures like the true Jewish people have been treated very bad historically and still are to this day, for many reasons, usually out of fear and envy
Anybody with certain ancestry in America’s are treated very poorly - especially if they do not live up to standards of how Americans see them as a people. , and otherwise we are whitewashed as communities - bullied -
People all wanna be like “gypsies” nowadays witht their free spirit tattoos and Facebook posts about being a gypsy because they went on vacation 4 times in a year
Yet they continue exploiting our people and expect us to settle for less and less while we are abused in different ways,
Being a minimalist and it being greedy doesn’t mean that I want to hand over everything I do have
That’s why Romani people call non-romani’s gorgers. It means like gorge- to eat a lot at one time, gluttony a way of saying greedy and gluttony and pig like.
My Grandpa was Serbian, grandma was british, and grandma on otherside was Scandinavian and grandfather Métis (French and Native American)
And people treat me like shit my whole life in Canada
America’s are not free countries
I lived in southern Spain from beginning of the 60s till 72. The Gitanos were hard workers, kind, truthful and very communicative. They worked for my father and never disappointed us. A totally different experience compared to some gypsies from Romania., Bulgaria and Hungary.
Yes, I seem to hear very different stories about these people depending on the place. Eastern Europeans seem to be very hostile to them, see them not as hardworking people but just as thieves and scammers who make pariahs of themselves everywhere they go. But it in Western Europe and the west in general, they seem to be generally liked and admired.
because east euros are like that and treat people like that
you know, unenlightened savages
@@iknow2145 Or, maybe the ones in Eastern Europe are really different from those in the west. Maybe they've absorbed the worst aspects of the cultures there. Or maybe it's just that Eastern Europeans are poorer and poor people tend not to romanticize or idealize other poor people that much. At any rate your comment seems a tad bigoted, painting all Eastern Europeans with the same brush.
During the early 60s I met a young Gypsy King and his family. I am still in contact with them.
I remember as a child I met an entire family of Gypsies who lived in Williamsburg Brooklyn New York on Stagg Street between Leonard Street and Lorimer Street. I loved the parties and festivals that they threw. I don't know why people are DEMONIZING them for they are truly very lovely people. The media had a role in DEMONIZING the Gypsies. Including Hollywood studios were GUILTY of portraying Gypsies as evil people. I trust them MORE THAN I TRUST ANY AMERICAN POLITICIAN!
Romney community I love the scotch, Irish and English gypsies as well. Most gypsies are good people
There’s a good chance that those gypsies in Williamsburg are related to me. I am a gypsy by mother and father. If I may correct one thing, there is no actual “King of the Gypsies”. We’ve always been way to proud to bow down to anyone, including one of our own. It’s kinda in our blood. It is for this reason, among others, that over the centuries, so many gypsies were killed. Refusal to acknowledge, and or, submit to authorities.
@@robert_costello I'm a scotch traveler.
@@robert_costello
Do you remember a person named GEORGE who lived in the Projects down the block from the house where the Gypsies lived. He was a BLACK kid around 15 years old? He used to hang out with a Gypsy friend of his from Stagg Street named Nicky who had a Grandmother named Maybelle.
There was a Gypsy family that had a Place in Greenwich Village on West 10th Street next to the Firehouse. There was a little Gypsy boy named Jack who was about 9 years old and he was a Gypsy Prince. They lived in a place where they also had their business as FORTUNE TELLERS. We went to a beach on City Island and it became a Gypsy Festival.
@@bohemoth1 I think you’re talking about the Bimbos, but then again, there are fortune tellers every 3 blocks in the village. You might’ve been mislead into believing that we abide by a monarch or a hierarchy. I fear that you might have been a punchline in a fairytale story that’s been told for thousands of years. It’s an inside joke. We do listened our elders, especially when it comes to trouble within.
I used to work with Rom kids and honestly, they are really kind and friendly people. What struck me most was their poverty. I helped the last wagon residents with homework and came across mothers that did not eat for a week because of lack of food and an entire family living in a small trailer.
Idiot .
You believe she didn't eat for a week. Good gentile
Utter Nonsense 😅
@@thisgame2 Kids with no dental care. Mother was really thin, barely had teeth. People neglect themselves. I also encountered whole families living in one room. I never had trouble with them, not even when I had them as neighbors.
u mean she hasnt stolen in a week
Not mentioned in this Documentary part 2, Very famous Gypsy guitarist Django Reinhardt had a huge influence on Jazz Music with the Guitar.
I LOVE THE GYPSY KINGS
Thank you for this, it's fascinating. I hope that you will continue to attempt to load Part 3 at some time in the future
Back when History Channel actually showed history
I noticed here and there, there are image of Irish travellers mixed in with Gypsies. This is wrong. Irish travellers are distinctly and ethnically Irish. Not Roma. Scotland has a very similar native traveller culture, set apart from the Irish. True, the Roma went to England, so English Gypsies are different to Irish Travellers. Of course there has been some inter-marriage down the centuries in the UK, but generally, Irish travellers do not mix with the Roma, who only really started arriving over here since the 1990s. Recently Irish travellers have actually been granted a special 'ethnic status' in Ireland - Due to them having distinct cultural traits (customs, language history) But many find that a bit over the top, to describe that as ethnically different. Connemara people in the West have hugely distinctive differences than say, Dublin people (language, folklore, customs, sea-faring traditions) So do the Ulster Scots of the North, yet we are all not recognised as having different etnicities. Unfortunately I think it all plays into Identity politics
The Irish Gypsies were called Tinkers.
Not quite right. We've had Romany Gypsies in England for centuries. They tend to look a bit darker than indigenous Brits but centuries of intermingling have made them look more 'British'. They maintained their own traditions: horses, metal work, field work etc and until recently lived in bender tends and then wagons before very recently being moved into permanent sites and housing (although they will often travel on the road in the summer months).
These Roma you now see are related ancestrally to the Romany already here but came over since the fall of the Soviet Union and the joining of Eastern Bloc countries to the EU. There are some cultural connections to those Romany already here but they are quite distinct in many ways.
@@SebNutter well said
Yes, I understand what you are saying completely. People lumping everything into one group. Not knowing or understanding the different groups. Its the same way with the Philippine Islands. It was made into one country. Because of the colonial greed. The name given to the islands was changed to king philipp the Spanish king. Which the natives never saw or agreed to, But the islands is an archipelago, and each was ruled by different ethnic tribe. In other words, when you are colonized you don't get the respect. Its like saying that the Samoans, Hawaiians, and new Zealanders are all the same. Now, on the other hand, what they were trying to say, and what they were trying to do was an idealism, which is what you have in America, different people and cultures into one sect, Americans. Its being boxed in. Compartmentalized. And as it stands today, all the people in the Islands are recognized as Filipinos. Even though there is no "F" in its oral or written alphabet and language. You have to speak Spanish to get the f. And the th sound. Yep. Conbulated as it gets. But outsiders don't know this. Because both sides don't get represented. Thats how ignorance starts. Colonialism ignorance evolved into racism, or should I say birthed.
@@Cat-ik1wo Filipinos, and you have no F ...😀🤣😂😆😅 sorry but that's pritty funny.😂🤣
They are called Nomads in Australia. The power of spirits dwell from within.
Just like my family n extended families.
Peace
Tripper we are Roma
Oh shut up you hippy!
loser
Lol, nobody in Australia calls anyone a nomad!
I've met Gypsies in Spain... I gotta say they were pretty cool and super traditional with their guitar and a huge fire by the beach. People are people at the end of the day.
I am English but my family were Romany we did descend from Punjab region but we are white now we are very mixed now
Punjabi boy 👌👌
@@karanzed q
Once Punjabi, always a punjabi.
Ha ha ha
Pakistan as well, we're a complex mix of NW Indian, Pakistani and Afghani tribes, including the Kalash and Pastums, some of whom are white, blonde , red haired and blue eyed, we arrived in Europe as brown and white people, hence why we were branded as child snatchers in loads of European countries. x
1969 when I was 5 yrs. Old. A caravana of Spanish Gypsis,
Stoped by my house in mexico. and i still remember the whole tribe.👩🦰👨🦰👱♀️🧔
And the DANCING , everywhere there is the wonderful dancing that goes alllllll the way back 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 🥰 💃🕺🏻 my grown son compliments me by referring to me as his Gypsy mom and I’m complimented , I’m Irish Canadian and love to study the history of these wonderful people who have survived and kept their heritage safe and what a RICH COLOURFUL history it is . My great uncle use to have gypsy’s visit him over many years and he would show me what he bought from them or bartered for.I loved his feather duster he had from his friends .❤️😉🙃
I very much enjoyed this documentary. Thanks
Romas always facinates me....its so sad what they went through.
peace keeper007 I respect that ( I’m a gipsy)
Dominika The bxtch -
Do you face discrimination for being roma gypsy in the country you live in?
czcams.com/video/aNUYGRn3W9Q/video.html
When I worked in a tourist town, Mackinaw City, in Michigan, the chamber of Commerce would send out a letter warning shopkeepers that “ the gypsies were moving through, with descriptions of their methods of tricking the workers and how to recognize them… later in college I did my anthropology final on the Rom. My great grandmother was said to be “gypsy”.
I remember in the early eighties the Holland Sentinel had a front page title " the gypsy's are back in Zeeland "
I am a Punjabi, story of Romas is sad yet emboldening and wondrous.
Metal forging technology was well developed during Indus Valley Civilization in North West India 3000 years B.C.
I’m Gypsy end I’m proud of it.
Jawen saste i bahtałe Romałe.
good wer r u from bro ?
Poland but i live in London
@@DelBaggioo r u facing any discrimination in London being gypsy ?
No . But in Poland yes .
Me too #ROMANY Hungarian💯💗
I have had the most wonderful interactions and experiences with Rroma people on some Greek islands and a cafe in Omonia Square in Athens. They are amazing people and I admire their spirit and incredible culture. I am grateful for the richness they shared with me.
Are we watching some old VCR converts . You are a true hero ......
Years ago I managed a small retail shop in a strip mall in Ohio and we had an alarm system of sorts whereby each shop would call one other on a list if there was something everyone should know quickly . One of the things judged worthy of utilizing the system was " Gypsies In The Center " . They traveled in several car load groups and would literally swarm particular shops they thought had valuables that they could use or easily sell . Men , women and even little kids grabbing anything and everything they could then leaving before authorities could arrive. We would just lock the doors and wait until they left the mall. A LEO friend said they think they are a Chosen People and that non-Gypsies are put on Earth to provide for them .
Very judgemental .And stupid....
dude they are a people without a home, which in turn cause them to have no economic system. the global community did not give them a chance like the Jew. if they were given the same they would of be owner of the store.
Yeah none of us think that.
hey that seems like you are right i want them to prove me wrong but I'm always disappointed
I'm half gypsy from my father's side and was raised in white environment because my father was abandoned to whites when he was 7 years old and he grew as a hard worker in the country in a white family. So I have quite a good vantage point for both worlds.
I am also annoyed all the stealing and all kinds of bad stuff i read on newspapers gypsies have done and how it gives a bad reputation to all gypsies even the good, honest ones.
But learning about the history of gypsies have widened my perspective. In my country for example often used saying is: "gypsies ha been living here for 500 years and still haven't learned how to assimilate into white culture". I usually say: "it took 90 percent of that 500 years for you whites to realise that even gypsies should be allowed to have a roof above their head".
It's worth to consider if most of the bad traits gypsies have comes from how they have been treated as long back as we know their history. Of course there are useful skills learned probably from whites.
If you aren't allowed to stay, have decent home and same basic necessities like every other human beings how can whites expect them to go to school that might open doors for a job in the future. If you don't have roof over your head, food on the table,etc... it's basically impossible to find time for anything else. Then again how many are willing to give a chance for a job?
Here's an interesting, eye opening article how gypsies always are pushed aside. Everybody know jew holocaust but barely anything about gypsy holocaust. Between 1933-45 Loss of Gypsies was greater than jews but all we hear is jews and they've been overcompensated for their loss while gypsies were forgotten:
web.archive.org/web/20120121233930/www.radoc.net/radoc.php?doc=art_e_holocaust_porrajmos&lang=en&articles=true
Man, how do you upload a vhs tape.
philastine with Super Ultra Technology of First Generation
😭🤣🤣
I think you convert it to a dvd, and upload it to your our computer.
@@imjustsaying364 was that funny for some reason?
Actually yes, I find it amusing how quickly technology changes and advances. I remember pre VHS, the rise of VHS & the battle with Betamax, and then the demise... it’s interesting and amusing to me...
Ay man am an Gypsy living in Europe, my family for many generations have lived here.
Europe has the largest Roma population worldwide
The Caliphate was different from what the Ottoman Empire was. So the way the documentary portays them two, as being identical because Islam was the official religion of both is simply wrong. The Turks are a distinct ethnic entity from the Arabs
you lie,
Turks are not arabs .
First who said Turkish are arab?
The non arab are 70-80% of the Muslim so if you are Muslim didn't mean you arab,
The ottoman empire was caliphate after they conquer Egypt and force the last caliphate Abbasid to give up the title, and before of that they were empire without religion authority control
@@waterfull2907 he did not say the Turks were Arabs ... tch. Read properly!!!
@@waterfull2907 That's what he said, genius.
Muslims are Muslims! No matter what race…
I am proud of my Father’s Hungarian heritage me and my 8 siblings was called Gypsy in Germany.❤️🔥🎶🦋💫
Yes but are you actually gypsy/Romani or are you just Hungarian?
my grandmother was a Hungarian gypsy my dads family where gypsies from Spain
@@tommym4167 bro always remember you have blood of warriors in you. You have blood of rajput clan the most prestigious and high status class in india. We share blood
A book anyone interested in this life style should read is, Bury Me Standing ( The Gypsies and their standing ) by Isabel Fonseca
Fabled ,feared, romanticized , and revield, the Gypsie - or Roma - are among the least understood people on earth. Now a diaspora of twelve million , their culture remains largely obscure, but in this book they have found an eloquent witness.
Thank you so much for this information. I'm going to
get the book !
As a Brit I find it annoying that some races are lauded for upholding their culture and traditions yet as a Brit were called racist and xenophobic when we want to uphold ours, some races are lauded for keeping their ethnicity yet again were racist or xenophobic if we want to keep ours. There are a lot of double standards in the world. Roma are from India , it’s common knowledge now
Don’t listen to it, they only do that to one group and there’s a reason.
What is yours?
I agree. I’m sure it would feel extremely annoying if the entire world complained about me in my native language 😂🎉
@@israelgarcia7801 meaning? You’ve not added any context to that
. . . English. The world complains about the British in the English language
my grandfather on my mum's side, was Roma from Chez he left the family because of strife in the group
The irony of constantly talking about slavery and abuse when not mentioning the fact of how women and children in this "culture" are treated. Innnzest, domestic violence, child marriage is ubiquitous. This is a very romantic depiction.
What a load of shit
additionally, and for the same reasons - balance - they should mention WHY they have always been hated and rejected - thievery.
@@arielstrafing5225 jails are full of youre type .
Stereotyping as usual for your race.
@@bohemoth1 well ! ask people from Spain what they say about this topic, you will be sorprise !
Wonderful documentary. Thank you
Amazing vid, luv it❤❤❤❤
WE ARE SO AFRAID OF PAST,WE SPEAK NOTHING OF FURTURE.
Please do not be. Your culture is a music to my ears.
This back when History channel made good television
thank you for shareing this.
Nice to see you Mr. Shani Rifati in this documentary, regards from NYC
People loves you as long they dont know where your from. If they do they will stereotype u and ignores u
When I was a teenager I worked at a carnival, the booth next to us were gypsies. Well I didn't know it then, but I was fascinated by them. Dad and mom were trapeze artists. They lived in Sarasota FL at Circus World.for the winter and traveled carnivals in summer. I was friends with the daughters. They were blond hair and blue eyes. Parents were very guarded with the daughters but they were nice, i had a good impression of them.
We're blue eyed, blonde and red haired Roma Gypsies, comes from the mountain/Hindu Kush tribes and nomads. x
@@GoldieDawn they come from affairs with Saxon, Hungarian and Mountain Romanian (Moți) farmers in Transylvania with whom some gypsy clans lived very closely for centuries.
What a fascinating people. I can't wait to learn more.
... thanx for posting this ... I recorded all the prog on v h s .. loaded to laptop not bad quality .. took it down after a copyright issue with some little thing I uploaded ... youtube threatened to shut my account ...still got the video tape somewhere .. kushti bok mush..
This is brilliant
Persecuted because they can't be controlled. Same today.
I'm so intrigued with the Gypsy culture! Growing up as a little girl, we would go to the cemetery to visit my grandparents however, I had to go and visit the GYPSIES!!! Evergreen cemetery in Newark New Jersey has a huge amount of GYPSIES buried there! SINGING SAM STEVENS is buried there as well!
I'm Roma and proud of it!
So you actually belong to Rajasthan :)
Mel Holmes you should be proud:)
Mel Holmes Me too Brother
czcams.com/video/aNUYGRn3W9Q/video.html Yes rajasthan
They must be absolutely supreme warriors. They survived toughest challenges, ever possible to survive for any human group in last 1000 year in the world. Their journey is inspiring. We love our Roma brother & sisters. With love from India...🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳
Will you please take them back?
@@rumble1925 A little racist don’t you think
Do you know how bad they portarit india????
Those Roma Gypsies who now live in Europe (and have done for 100s and 1000s of years) do not like Indians and do not see them as brothers and sisters lol. Ask any Roma what they think of Indians…you will not like the answers!
@@scruffyo4460 majority of Indians don't give a damn about gypsies....only very few like the one who commented above has such interest and that too because of political reasons......
I'd heard bad things about gypsies all my life, but just assumed that it was more racist crap that someone had dreamed up for whatever reason, and then, in the '90s, I had to go to the Czech Republic on assignment for my company, and ran into them first hand. The locals seemed genuinely terrified of them, pointing to the ubiquitous bars on the windows that people had put up to protect themselves against break-ins. I still had doubts until I went out for a beer with my hosts, and a couple of Roma came in; they grabbed two chairs next to the TV, changed the channel without asking, drank a few brews and acted pretty surly toward the other patrons, then left without paying (one of them pulled up his shirt to show a gun in his waistband as they left), and I have to say, their body odor was nauseating (and this was in a country which has very different standards of personal hygiene, of which I'd already become accustomed) beyond belief - I was seated a good thirty feet away, and I wanted to leave just to get some fresh air. Admittedly, that was just one experience, but it left an impression; can't say that I've adopted the animus, but I'm more understanding of the Europeans' views now
Regarding the personal hygiene, just so you know, in the Czech Republic a lot of the Roma communities are only allowed water and power for two hours a day.
Skidamarink ADinkADink I don't even need two hours myself to keep myself clean every day, come on that's a lame argument ! So they had access to water and electricity for 2 hours EVERY SINGLE DAY !!! Are you telling me that you cannot have a full body wash in a bath tub in 10 minutes ??? I'm not supporting the other man's argument that Gypsies are largely unhygienic, on the contrary the Romany Gypsies I know in England are very clean, cleaner than most in fact ! I'm just saying if your going to refute claims like that you can't be using that one !
@@skidamarinkadinkadink9580 They'd get 24/7 access to water and electricity if they actually paid their bills like the rest of us do. (Source: I lived in Prague and now live 5km away from Lunik IX in Kosice, so I know what I'm talking about.)
I also had a bad experience of the Roma whilst on a visit to my family in Dublin ( Republic of Ireland ) . My husband was having a coffee and I was going to a shop when an old gnarled gypsy begged for money . Stupidly I opened my bag to and husband with a waiter ran towards me . Five males had surrounded me without my knowledge.. scary situation for this foolish old eejit .
Experiences like this explain why this bad reputation lingers. Obviously not all Roma people do this kind of thing or condone it, but stereotypes rarely come out of thin air. Using women, children, and old people to beg is one of the most despicable practices they’ve unfortunately become known for.
I am from Germany and had lots of Roma and Sinti Friends who made me feel ,ore welcome than my own family..They are a fascinating group of peoples and their history goes back all the way to India more than 5000 years ago
You litlebit wrong we be just slaves in North India for 400 years originally we coming from Abraham we lost tribes from Izrael
My mums side of the fam are of romani gypsy and Irish traveller ancestry, settling around Northumbria, Kent, suffolk and surrey for a few hundred years, im still tracing my roots there, and my dad's side are ancestors of william bradford and palatine immigrants who moved to Pennsylvania then later to suffolk, to think how both sides have survived prejudice and travelling these long journeys just amazes me of their courage and determination to live
i would very much like to meet a person from this culture...love learning about ppl different from myself.
Regina Moore just go to GypsyLand
As a child I'd say I was probably a bit prejudiced. I didn't trust them as my only interactions with them had been very negative - a group camping out on our small property without permission and absolutely trashing it, and (in a different country) attempting to kidnap me. As you get older though you realise that there are awful people (and, likewise, lovely people) in literally any group. We have moved and travelled extensively all my life, and I am yet to find a group for whom this doesn't apply.
Right on...👍
So, other groups of people tried to kidnap you as well? That’s very interesting. Which were the other groups that tried to kidnap you? That’s very sad you had to go through that, sorry to hear ❤️
They trashed the camp site and on one occasion tried to kidnap you??? Nuff said.
Nashti zhas vorta po drom o bango!
Nice for you to learn
Very proud to be Romani ❤️ thanks for uploading this video.
Proud to be the shittiest race that ever existed? Nice then, we LL take care of u also
Kelly H - 👍💕🙏🌺💃
@@christianemontazer1825 they steal rape and kill. How can they be appreciated is out of my comprehension
Proud Sintasa
R so does every other race so why should we not be proud you dumb fuck
Family legend is that Gypsies stole my great,grandmother's younger child,a boy. The children were walking and a wagon of Gypsies came down the road in Whitemire,S.C.. The children started running, and the youngest could not run fast. He was light skinned child with green eyes, never to be seen again.
Bull shit
@@jimgorman6506 who's gonna kill em just tell em move on when youve wrapped up yurr crap,
Yes - most likely true. In Portugal years ago a small boy went missing. They found him in Spain about 10 yrs later with the Roma. It was all over the news when they found him My husband said its not the first time in his country (Portugal).
SC as in South Carolina?I ask because I really didn't think there were ever actual bands of Gypsies in the Southern United States.
@@gregorywellssr7857 u Rumney
My first and last encounter with a fortune teller was in Boston, Mass. In 1972/73. I had 10$ in my shirt pocket, another 5$ under my shoe. During the meeting, she tried to touch me all over.I got scare and ran away. Then found that money in the pocket was gone. The 5$ under mr shoe was intact! Btw that was on Washinton St. right next to China town.
use all have it wrong about use all have it wrong about I'm trying to talk into this phone is not well minus see you guys can't even spell you guys got it all wrong about the home OMG ome is Grandma you have no idea what are gypsies you heard so many different stories that's why you don't know the difference in real ones and fake ones use all try to figure it out dummies cuz you don't know what's real and
Does anyone know the name of the song at 9:13 ? Or where I can find that footage?
I respect them immensely... Because they are survivors!
I think the problem of persecution for nomadic tribes come from the fact that they try to keep their identity instead of being absorbed and assimilating into the nation or community they occupy. In doing so they create suspicion and distrust from those around them. They appear to be trying to serve two cultures and their motives and loyalties are suspect. Nothing creates distrust more than speaking a foreign language in public. It is akin to whispering at a party. All relationships, especially enduring relationships are founded on mutual trust. When your loyalty is suspect the tiniest betrayal is amplified.
Assimilating does not mean someone has to give up their own religions, languages, and cultural identity. You can be a part of a society without giving up your roots. No one ever told white people colonizing south Africa, the Americas, and India to "assimilate".
I agree that this does adds to creating tension. But it is a brave thing to maintain ones individuality, while being persecuted, and staying the course non the less. Most ppl in this world aren't built for that and dont have the backbone for it!
"Serve two cultures". So all of us have to choose one culture to "choose"? Like punks, hippies, bikers, video-nerds, gays, Mexican-Americans, all are suspect because they have more than one (WASP?) "culture"? C'mon. We all have more than one culture. Those who like cosmopolitan or nomadic cultures, however, are persecuted (Jews, Gypsies) by us who stay more in one place. But don't blame THEM for our prejudices!!
Never thought about it this way. Thank you for this!
exactly what I was thinking. Very similar to jewish people who were hated in every land they travelled to
In Puertorican oral history it was passdown to me a story that some of my Spanish ancestors were Jipsys like we say in Puerto Rico. The story goes like this..They came with the Spaniards Conquistadors becuse Cristóbal Colón had to get people from at the time prison and jail some of them had life sentences or where sentence to death..so they had to go..no one else wanted to go with Cristóbal Colón.. So if you go my town we look like middle eastern/ Indian people ...they love to sing and always have this stories..
Cool information
Which town in Puerto Rico?
Cristobal Colon married and lived on Madeira Island.
Fascinating. Thank you :)
Awesome documentary.
Born & bred 3rd generation New Zealander but something my grandmother taught me was ..." my mother said that I never should..play with the gypsies in the wood..if I did she would say..naughty girl to disobey!" Born in the '50s...most of us were taught this nursery rhyme...sad...
Classic history channel I love it
What an excellent enlightening history absolutelly brilliant
Good documentary. Thanks to the poster for recording this on VHS tape and then digitizing!
I am Rom and was brought in the late 70s within that culture. It had its hardships but it was equally beautiful and a natural way of being, which for me, although, not brought up religious, is how I imagined how God intended our freedom to look like.
For me it was paradise on earth - I look at us as being the last of the magical species that one day will only be written and read about like many things lost to mythical lore.
There is good and bad in all - there are many fascinating stories that I've heard, seen in my time - where our people came across Christ on the Silk road after his Crucifixion travelling with his family.
The Daughter of Christ and Mary Magdalene, Sarah Tamar who spent alot of her life in Alexandria Is the patreon saint of our people and known as Sarah la Kali - goes hand in hand why were called Egyptians and why we were messengers for nobility among other roles.
There are tales we aided Robert The Bruce in the 1300s in the Battle of Bannockburn - not as Roma but as Templars - hence why William Sinclair (builder of the Rosslyn Church/Grail family) gave protection to Roms and we took his name.
I disagree. I don't believe magdalene was wife of the true christ, I believe it was Cleopatra who was mother of Sarah kali.
My mum’s name was Roslyn. Maybe that is why!
@@joltjolt5060 not only is Magdalena the wife of Yashua but his spiritual successor, in her right, the feminine Christ and Tamar is their daughter who herself was a great prophetess she is nostradamus which basically means Our Lady.
@@miriamwells35 there you go and you have the name of Mary
I am a Romney gypsy and I am proud of my heritage and don’t hide it
In the end we are all here for the ride :) love this documentary . Love you gypsy
Sadly, here in France, we have constant problems with the Roma. Only a couple of weeks ago I had to rescue my local bar owner from two who were bullying him into changing some fake euro notes.
Once you understand you learn to deal with their scams and pickpocketing. Despite being in a very rural area you soon learn not to leave anything of value out in your garden as their children are often mooching around looking for something to take. Recently a neighbour had a scooter stolen. Fortunately the police went straight down to there publicly funded camping ground and got it back before they'd moved it on.
Such actions are exactly how stereotypes grow. Sad.
Ytcarol, so we should keep such things a secret ? If this is truth, I had trouble WTH them in So Cal.
@@ytcarol Oh god its the same exact thing here in russia, We have a settlement of them right near me (40 houses) but there are hundreds live in shanty houses and many chldren literally smell like putrid grabage. Theyre also not lliterate. My area is considerd extremely dangerous for the city.
WOW they are guilty of what whites,blacks,latinos you cant even use that crime to say all gypsies do this you sound ridiculous every human in any race are doing things like that but here you are singling them out.
@@lovelylady1966 Im part roma and sorry but there is a high incidence of some races or ethnicities doing certain behaviours more so then others, stereotypes from for a reason. Get over it.,
I wish History Channel would go back to this type of programming and get away from those stupid contest programs
Both my grandparents were Romany travellers.never ripped anyone off or expected anything for nothing.never claimed a penny and worked all there lives & raised 10 children along with the numerous children they took in when there parents were struggling.this misconception of gypsys robbing every town they went through is a newish thing because of a few bad apples that aren't even proper gypsys but are free loaders that think everyone owes them something because they're gypsys.real gypsys are proud people ,so wouldn't accept handouts or rob anyone.so before you tie all gypsys together please speak to them 1st and judge them then .!!!
Herby Hannan look we all need help once in a while or vice versa. It sucks when people become shameless and stay free loading though. That's when there's a problem
@P Ciprian i mean thays nonsense. We could say that about pretty much any people in any country. Im a romani, and il be honest i alwayd warned to stay away from townies because they live in dirty places and in general very touchy about new people, as in a bit stupid and slow. I found out this was not true of course, but in a general statement of this subject, most townies are ignorant and stupid and rather than taking a relaxed attitude they fear it and dislike it instantly.
@P Ciprian yes but your genralising and going off simple experience. Im not saying your wrong or arguing for that sake. Im simply saying calling a Majority of hige people, who are more global than most others, lazy and workshy is silly by fact. Life on the road is hard, harder than most people realise. And the reason many, as far as i know in our family is for tradition and a preference of that way of life. Now you can have an opinion on that way of life but simply to call a huge majority lazy and theives seems a bit beneath you. You seem like a very reasonable fella, im not at all a erse to the idea that travellers and can be bad, i know as i have seen it. But the when talking about whole race, as with any race, it cannot be said that majority of a certain race is bad, for example white folks in america , despite a heavy number being trump supporters , are not right wing nutjobs.
@P Ciprian so your saying that all gypsies , in the main, will forever be theives?
@P Ciprian that sounds like silly gorja sayings that rooted in anti gypsiism. Also the real reason that you let Slaves go is that they should Not have slaves surely!? Im sorry but through every traveller i know, none of what you have said can be called true, because nearly everyone in my life faces this sort of silly ideas everyday, where settled people have this fear. Watch out the gypsy will take your kid, its un their blood to be bad, cross my palm with silver. Bullshit. Our ancestors did what they had to, at one point it was legal to murder us on sight. For simply drawing breath. Thats not ok and no one should defend that. Your ancestors , all of europe really, are key to the fact you were all scared of gypsies. Scared because gypsies travelled around, were different. Plain and pure jealousy began right then. The ottomans did it first but europeans took it to a level where it ends in genocide. Awful way to look at life
The Gypsy families I've met are the most loving, family orientated people I know. People need to put their bigotry in check. All of the negative things that people say about the Rom/ Gypsies can be said about some of the people in any race and culture and nationality.
You're very ignorant, sorry
Lynn DeBeal I see this was posted a year ago, so have they eaten your children and disappeared yet?
You're mistaken
23:04 enter the Australian Shepherd and i was literally thinking about if they were Gypsies dogs and I thought it may have been a reach but they came to be in the Americas from Basque Shepherds and the dogs they brought... what is so funny I recognized it when the shadow was on the water that my theorizing was correct it was just strange that I was just thinking of it and then watch this the next day. I've been raising Aussies for 30 years and had really put a lot of time and energy into my genetics to trace back to a dog that was built a lot like that one in the wagon train, they also have the blue-eyed genetics in their black dogs. It was recessive it had been bred away from and then was able to be brought back out. 7 years ago I named my mini Australian Shepherd Gypsy because it suited her, little did I know how accurate it was! I am so glad I noticed that
The other cool thing I noticed was I had wondered how our surname Otto had the connection and basically this explained it! So cool