First Look: Tesla Model 3 Drive Unit

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  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
  • This short clip shows the entire rear subframe complete with drive unit and suspension pulled from a salvage Model 3.
    The drive unit itself with inverter and full lubrication sump weighs just under 200lbs/90kg. I have more videos in this series showing more detail on the drive unit, inverter, and motor. Check here: / ingineerix
    Let me know in the comments below what kind of videos you'd like to see on Tesla tech. Don't forget to subscribe, as there is a lot of cool stuff coming!

Komentáře • 290

  • @shepherdsknoll8
    @shepherdsknoll8 Před 6 lety +21

    I just completed a road trip from CA to Mt. Rushmore in the Model 3. The motor (and car) performed flawlessly. The motor really is a thing of beauty. Never temperamental, always ready. You can pass multiple vehicles in a blink. I had it up to 120 mph in the Wyoming plains, there was plenty left.

  • @youchris67
    @youchris67 Před 3 lety +8

    I see where the Tesla design engineers got their idea for the drive system for their automobiles: Subway cars and the French TGV drive units! The Tesla drive units look very much identical to that on electrified propulsion trains! However, scaled down for automobiles--pure genius! Bravo!

  • @carlknott1081
    @carlknott1081 Před 6 lety +28

    Such a simple and elegant design that could produce such an amazing performance. There is no freaking way those super complicated and costly to build internal combustion engines and transmissions can compete with this.

    • @zolikoff
      @zolikoff Před 6 lety +4

      They do compete if you're talking about manufacturing cost. It's a lot cheaper. Cost to run/fuel is another story.

    • @jonragnarsson
      @jonragnarsson Před 5 lety +7

      ICE's are dead. I'm amazed how much progress has been made in the last 10 years.

    • @bob15479
      @bob15479 Před 5 lety +1

      @@zolikoff I think he's talking about the drive unit. The drive unit is far superior in most any way to ICE. The current drawback is obviously the heavy pricey battery, but that will change with time.

    • @stefensmith9522
      @stefensmith9522 Před rokem

      Range and charging availability. 300 miles isn't great range and if you live in an apartment a lot of people around the county simply don't have access to a charger and who wants to work all day just to get off and sit at a charging station waiting for your car to charge. On the other side of that, if your buying a $60-$100k tesla than you probably not living in an apartment complex 😂

  • @karenrobertsdottir4101
    @karenrobertsdottir4101 Před 6 lety +71

    Wait a minute... removing the whole rear drive assembly involves disconnecting only 3 electrical cables, 2 brake lines, 2 glycol lines, 2 shocks, and 4 bolts? That's amazing! That's fewer connections than my motherboard...
    Have been thinking about having mine raised, whether through spacers or custom coilovers. Such a simple design should really keep the labour down!

    • @benjaminmaier1990
      @benjaminmaier1990 Před 6 lety +17

      The whole car looks build with an amazing level of simplicity. If you watch other teardown videos its really interesting how clean and tidy everything is, compared to any other car, be it EV or ICE. Somebody put a real effort into the whole concept.

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith Před 6 lety +1

      Just curious, why do you want to raise it?

    • @karenrobertsdottir4101
      @karenrobertsdottir4101 Před 6 lety +11

      Winter and bad roads (I live in Iceland). My land is off a (short) bad road in the countryside. But even in town, ice and deep snow have done serious damage to my Insight quite a few times. Low cars aren't good here. I'd also love the possibility to do some "minor offroading" (hence my question about water depth in the other thread). A large chunk of our country is only accessible by these highland roads which are unpaved and generally little more than "some guy drove a bulldozer through here". The major ones are mostly just washboardy and potholed, but the minor ones cross lava fields and stuff like that (I will *not* be subjecting my Model 3 to lava fields! There's no chance the suspension could take that. But being able to do the major roads would be nice). Large rivers are bridged, but streams and standing water are not. So again... clearance.
      Best option would be one that lets me change between summer mode (normal height) and winter/offroad mode (elevated). Was thinking that a simple way might be air suspension + larger tires, so you get both the benefit of air suspension raising it and the extra height from the tires. And said tires could be winter/offroad tires, kept on an extra set of rims, for easy swapping. The problem with that approach is that the front control arms stick out over the inner lip of the tires with only a finger's width of clearance. There would have to be some way to mount the rims slightly further out to avoid hitting it. But obviously I wouldn't want "summer mode" to be mounted further out; that'd clearly be an efficiency (aka range / charge rate) hit.
      Without changing tire sizes, spacers could give some extra height, but they'd permanently lock lower suspension positions off from me. I've been told that given the slack in the lines, probably the most you could raise a Model 3 through spacers would be about 2". Which means that if you have air suspension too, probably no more than 1". In that case, the "low" setting would be like the "normal" setting, and "normal" would be like "high", with "high" putting you about an inch over that, and "Very high" a touch more. Assuming that Model 3's air suspension will have similar settings to Model S's.
      Custom coilovers would at least let me adjust the height. But really, the best would be if I could adjust tire size, either instead of - or in addition to - spacers or coilovers. The more clearance in winter/offroad, the better. If I could go from 45 to 65 on the tire aspect ratio, that would add almost two inches, which - with air suspension as well - would bring it up to +3" at low speeds, a touch less at moderate speeds. Might even be able to get away with higher than 65 on the aspect ratio, so long as I never drop the air suspension to "low" with them on. With 1" spacers that could potentially even bring it up to a max of +4". Serious height! But the spacers would be an extra cost and - again - lock off "low" from me in summer mode.

    • @thinlet1
      @thinlet1 Před 6 lety +10

      Hate to make this a male female thing, but I have noticed women in Iceland (Europe) consistently answer very technical stuff that I'd hate to say I rarely hear in the US. Probably because education is not only free, its great too. If I am wrong, I'll be happy about it.

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith Před 6 lety +4

      ok, so basically a Tesla Subaru. That would be a cool thing...

  • @Kuth70
    @Kuth70 Před 6 lety +25

    It's amazing how a tiny motor like that has the level of performance that can push a 4,000 car 0-60 in 5.1 (I think drag times had it as low as 4.6)

    • @simonalvarez5129
      @simonalvarez5129 Před 6 lety

      Yeah, DragTimes got 4.5-second 0-60. But Tesla seems to have throttled it back to 5.1 secs in a software update.

    • @Pimpmedown
      @Pimpmedown Před 6 lety +1

      AWD version can do 3,3ec with optimized tires!

    • @Kuth70
      @Kuth70 Před 6 lety

      If only I had the money to get the dual motor performance. My finances only allow for the single motor.

    • @Pimpmedown
      @Pimpmedown Před 6 lety +1

      well thats already a very nice and fast car! I would love to have any of them.

    • @ladsongeddings100
      @ladsongeddings100 Před 6 lety

      That's the beauty of electric motors; small, simple and full torque immediately!

  • @oisiaa
    @oisiaa Před 6 lety +38

    This is the most advanced electric motor in the world and Tesla's ace in the hole!

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn Před 6 lety +2

      Actually nearly everything about Teslas is very advanced.

    •  Před 6 lety +3

      Because you would know if it's advanced or not.

    • @majstealth
      @majstealth Před 6 lety

      what is in there that isnt at least 100 years in use? come back when it runs on fairydust...

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn Před 6 lety +3

      +majstealth The permanent magnet activated reluctance motor is possibly the first time in mass production, and it's a major advance since it's highly efficient. Silicon Carbide power transistors have probably never been used in EVs before, etc. Also more efficient. Those are two major examples, among others.

    • @Mrbfgray
      @Mrbfgray Před 6 lety +1

      Loanword Eggcorn
      Batteries and electronics YES. I don't know about the drive unit. Manufacturing methods and structural design of the cars are not even up to minimal industry standards in terms of build efficiency, weight minimization, etc. (I'm using Munro for as my primary source of information here)

  • @masjuggalo
    @masjuggalo Před 8 měsíci +1

    I think I need this for my Honda

  • @WatchRichRebuildsChannel
    @WatchRichRebuildsChannel Před 6 lety +7

    Great video man. I cant believe how much smaller the motor is compared to a Model S or X. It almost looks like the one Tesla had in the electric Smart cars for a few years.

  • @Amin_2k
    @Amin_2k Před 2 lety

    Didnt expect it to be so simple. Amazing

  • @soulofjacobeh
    @soulofjacobeh Před 5 lety

    I'm impressed that little plate stack can cool the motor. I knew the motors are fairly high efficiency and don't have a ton of thermal loss, but wow that's still something.

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 5 lety +1

      These plate-stack type heat exchangers have a LOT of surface area, so with fast moving oil/coolant it can handle a lot of heat transfer.

    • @soulofjacobeh
      @soulofjacobeh Před 5 lety

      @@Ingineerix I guess I'm used to our data center style plate stack Heat exchangers. We don't usually have very fast-moving fluid so maybe that's the difference.

  • @BlackTalon53
    @BlackTalon53 Před 6 lety +3

    Amazing to think that all this is held on by just four bolts! The forces those fouur bolts have to withstand at full acceleration must be insane.

    • @WatchRichRebuildsChannel
      @WatchRichRebuildsChannel Před 6 lety +8

      Well if you think it an old muscle car drive train is only held in by 4 bolts also. 2 front motor mount bolts and 2 transmission crossmember bolts.

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 6 lety +5

      They are BIG bolts!

    • @carlknott1081
      @carlknott1081 Před 6 lety +1

      Like @Watch said. Not to mention electrical motors deliver strong but very smooth power. Unlike high power ICE cars you need to do the dump the clutch at high rpm thing to deliver the power violently or the car just would not go.

    • @Joe_Blo
      @Joe_Blo Před 6 lety

      BlackTalon53 Probably should refrain from any Dukes of Hazard stunts with those cars.

    • @dotancohen
      @dotancohen Před 2 lety +1

      The whole Space Shuttle stack was held up by eight bolts - four in each SRB.

  • @sagarmeena0210
    @sagarmeena0210 Před 6 lety +38

    engineering marvel

  • @antn8387
    @antn8387 Před 10 měsíci

    such a great compact design.

  • @surplusstock8778
    @surplusstock8778 Před 3 lety

    Excellent bit of kit for an Ariel atom style car,weld chassis around it and place batteries for weight distribution

  • @luismendoza9049
    @luismendoza9049 Před 2 lety

    Wow I’ll be replacing that today on a salvaged Tesla hopefully it’s straight forward

  • @TRYtoHELPyou
    @TRYtoHELPyou Před 6 lety +29

    Now let's build one of these to bolt up to an F150....

    • @Pimpmedown
      @Pimpmedown Před 6 lety +7

      one? make it 2 and there you go: 4sec 0-60mph. That will be a nice F150

    • @aussie2uGA
      @aussie2uGA Před 6 lety +3

      Four, one at each wheel. The it's true 4WD without all the mechanical torque shifting/locking differential complexities.

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith Před 6 lety +1

      Pretty sure the Tesla pickup will have basically the same drivetrain from the new roadster. 2 M3 rear motors and 1 M3 front motor. All of them will of course be geared lower. This will give incredible control over traction, and also dynamic stability while towing. Should be pretty amazing...

    • @Pimpmedown
      @Pimpmedown Před 6 lety

      haha i am damn sure those will NOT be on the pickup. The pickup will have the same as the Truck. The ones from the roadster will be way too expensive for such a car

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith Před 6 lety +1

      You do know that the Roadster and Semi both use M3 motors, right? I would expect the Tesla Pickup will be very expensive too btw. 65k+

  • @gjwestonable
    @gjwestonable Před 4 lety

    Absolutely fabulous piece of engineering. I recently had a new E class as a hire car the big manufactures have so far to catch up in design. I know their quality is better most of the time :) the gap is closing though. I always said my next car will be petrol then electric, it will be electric now.

  • @stefan_jank
    @stefan_jank Před 3 lety

    This looks like it is really simple to work on

  • @konquer247
    @konquer247 Před 5 lety +3

    I would LOVE one day to fit this into the back side of my VW
    I think it would be great.

  • @coreythompson315
    @coreythompson315 Před 3 lety

    Teslas are definitely game changers!

  • @JJJandak
    @JJJandak Před 6 lety +61

    This thing is so hot! Simple, powerful, beautiful..

    • @MrShimizoo
      @MrShimizoo Před 5 lety +1

      Apparently simple , for simple minds. The complexity is shifted in the control hardware and software management unit.

    • @edbo10
      @edbo10 Před 5 lety +5

      @@MrShimizoo beats having to disconnect a zillion cables and lines to work on the car

  • @TheRealMrLaserCutter
    @TheRealMrLaserCutter Před 6 lety

    A manufacturer should make or sell something for conversions or Self builds. That would be the ultimate environmentally friendly car, one you can rebuild and upgrade forever.

  • @aussietesla7821
    @aussietesla7821 Před 6 lety +1

    Great info and tremendous work you put in... Could you do some camera training to reduce our dizziness. ie don't constantly rove and wobble the camera from one part to the next. ta :)

  • @trinvanao3352
    @trinvanao3352 Před rokem

    hi, i'm having problem with tesla car, now the screen shows errors like :rear motor disabled,unable drive,park assist disabled, do you know where the problem is, help me.!

  • @stuartjakl
    @stuartjakl Před 4 lety

    I am assuming "Front" is the end with the orange power cables?
    Can you show us what captures the coil springs on the top?
    And could you put a shock in place so we can see its mounting point and orientation?
    It is interesting to note the use of welded fabricated steel sections for the sub frame vs the aluminium on the Model S.
    Thank you for posting this!

  • @scottfranco1962
    @scottfranco1962 Před 6 lety +2

    Love these videos. What are you going to do with this line of work? Become an independent service company on Teslas?

    • @faustin289
      @faustin289 Před 3 lety

      What's wrong with the "CZcamsr" line of work?

  • @slavko321
    @slavko321 Před 6 lety +5

    How can four bolts hold this huge powerful motor?

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 6 lety +4

      It's a pretty small motor (200lbs), and the bolts are definitely up the task of the dynamic forces.

    • @JBoy340a
      @JBoy340a Před 6 lety +2

      Airliner jet engines are held on at 3 attachment points connected with one pin each. Good engineering design is the key.

    • @joseanza868
      @joseanza868 Před 5 lety +1

      The front 2 bolts has 128nm and the back ones has 168nm I use to torque these bad boys till I got laid off😒

  • @BunkerBlog
    @BunkerBlog Před 5 lety

    I want to see how tuners of the future will modify EVs. Everything looks very clean and simple on this car!

  • @suchasreallife
    @suchasreallife Před 5 lety

    Two of these under and early wrx, oh man

    • @apricity69
      @apricity69 Před 5 lety

      Model 3 rear track is 62.2”, GD WRX rear is 50.3”. So 2.9” narrower total, or 1.5” per side. (GC is narrower still.) You’ll need fender flares or different wheels. Subaru used 5x100 wheels for Imprezas but gradually went to 5x114.3. Same as the Model 3. However, Model 3 uses 14mm studs instead of 12mm studs, and “medium offset” of 35mm or 40mm instead of Subaru’s “high offset” of 45mm to 55mm. Then there’s the hub bore: 56.1mm for Subaru, 64.1mm for Tesla Model 3.
      The bigger deal would be mounting it. Luckily, we already know the spare tire well in the trunk can be cut out. Subaru also used a saddlebag gas tank that can be removed. Stock rear trailing links could be ditched too. The. You either need to weld parts of the Subaru rear subframe to the Tesla subframe, make adapter brackets, or modify the Subaru chassis to accept the Tesla subframe. Another handy plus are the two access panels Subaru used for access to the top of the gas tank.
      Using the Tesla rear springs would be a puzzle, but some air suspension “bag over” kits don’t use them. Instead, the damper attachment points do all the work. Luckily, the GD has some very high rear strut mounts that are very sturdy.

  • @AlexanderThickstunsChannel

    I’d like to know if I could have permission to use a short clip from your video where you show the wheels, drivetrain, and motor for one of my videos. I’ll be talking about how there are less drivetrain losses in Tesla vehicles and I can think of no better way to show this to the audience than what you captured here. Very good video! They are really fun to watch and learn about the car.

  • @Deetroiter
    @Deetroiter Před 3 lety

    I don’t think Tesla gets enough credit for how workable and interchangeable the parts on the model 3 really is. By modern standards, thing is like working on a 3 cylinder geo metro

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 3 lety +1

      Way less moving parts! Engineering is not even in the same world!

  • @superluminal89
    @superluminal89 Před 4 lety

    Question: Tesla motors are, supposedly, capable of getting up to 18,000 RPM. But this assumes work being distributed to both tires. What if the motor had to spin only one tire? How fast, in terms of RPM, could it get up to then?

  • @ufotrailers7131
    @ufotrailers7131 Před 6 lety +1

    Wow so much instead of such a small package very impressive!

  • @andresgraneris9850
    @andresgraneris9850 Před 3 lety +1

    En los carros de Metro los motores están dentro de la rueda

  • @juggernautherculesgarcia6076

    Hello, can I put the ludicrous Tesla motor drive unit in a Hummer H1 ?

  • @80Vikram
    @80Vikram Před 6 lety

    Can you please create video ( animated can be useful ) how this whole things works ? With explanations for each of the terms like inverter, sub-train, drive-train, coolers etc Thanks in advance :)

  • @markstevens2937
    @markstevens2937 Před 6 lety +1

    found this channel through Electrek

  • @DanFrederiksen
    @DanFrederiksen Před 5 lety

    The suspension seems like odd geometry to me. Is that common practice? I guess it's to have the spring off center for the drive axle but I think I would prefer a symmetric design and maybe use two coilovers if necessary. Also I don't care for the concept of a sway bar, particularly not with a low CoG like M3

  • @nathangold3054
    @nathangold3054 Před 6 lety

    Could you put a measuring tape on and see what the approximate sizes are?

  • @LoanwordEggcorn
    @LoanwordEggcorn Před 6 lety +1

    Love the videos, but the nearly constant panning is almost giving me motion sickness. A few fixed camera positions and a laser pointer would be a lot better camera technique.

  • @aaronthorpe379
    @aaronthorpe379 Před 6 lety +7

    Where do I buy my Tesla crate motor?

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith Před 6 lety

      Exactly what I'm thinking watching this.

    • @jmatt98
      @jmatt98 Před 6 lety

      Aaron Thorpe get the small block v8. Much more powerful.

    • @michaelramsey82
      @michaelramsey82 Před 5 lety +1

      @@jmatt98 I don't think anyone's cross-shopping Tesla motors and V8s. If you want an electric motor, no old-fashioned dinosaur juice burner will suffice.

  • @FlorentHenry
    @FlorentHenry Před rokem

    What happened to both tires?

  • @Edgar-Friendly
    @Edgar-Friendly Před 5 lety +1

    Needs a Corvair attached to it.

  • @alencaviles5799
    @alencaviles5799 Před 3 lety

    thank you for sharing!!

  • @gscorp9156
    @gscorp9156 Před 2 lety

    Как же классно спроектирован, прям наслаждение для инженера внутри меня

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 2 lety +1

      He wrote: "How coolly designed, direct pleasure for the engineer inside me."
      I replied: Я говорю "Инженерное порно"! (I call it "Engineering Porn"!)

  • @surplusstock8778
    @surplusstock8778 Před 3 lety

    Would this be water proof if not covered?just thinking of using it for a kit car

  • @Panda-qf3bw
    @Panda-qf3bw Před rokem

    I get to make these for a living woohoo

  • @artazamngmnt
    @artazamngmnt Před 3 lety

    How much does the whole thing weight?

  • @ry77801
    @ry77801 Před rokem

    How fast in the dual motor Tesla 3 ?

  • @smogne41
    @smogne41 Před 6 lety +37

    Those are gonna be great for EV conversions once they are hacked!

  • @jeffv2074
    @jeffv2074 Před 4 lety

    If you ever played with hobby grade Radio control cars then your pretty much set. The only difference other then size is the ESC (Electronic Speed Control) on RC cars are far more advance in technology the motors come sensored or sensor-less and the ESC are user friendly and easy to tune. I'm surprised no one has attempted to replicate it for a full size EV. It would make life so much easier.

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 4 lety

      Sorry, I don't know of any hobby ESC's using SicFETs, and definitely none are near the total efficiency of Tesla's. Running a sensorless feedback system in a large traction application is very difficult, and has all kinds of issues.

  • @upaiaq
    @upaiaq Před 4 lety

    How wide is it from wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface? disc to disc?

  • @putuudayana9323
    @putuudayana9323 Před 3 lety

    Semakin canggih tesla . Bisakah tesla ke indonesia.

  • @youngdizzp
    @youngdizzp Před 2 měsíci

    How much does all of this weigh without the tires and will a transmission lift hold it?

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Motor is 200lbs, so probably 350lbs for the whole thing.

  • @satsafe7456
    @satsafe7456 Před 3 lety

    How easy would this unit be to retro-fit into a vintage VW camper.Brilliantly simple.

    • @alexforget
      @alexforget Před 2 lety

      Seems pretty simple compared to an engine.
      I wonder for the battery pack and all other electronics.
      I heard that all the electronics communicate and need correct id to function.

  • @seanericsutton18
    @seanericsutton18 Před 3 lety

    Pretty damn good video

  • @BOT-bv8dq
    @BOT-bv8dq Před 2 lety

    Where can I buy this drive unite

  • @juanr.rodriguez3109
    @juanr.rodriguez3109 Před 5 lety +2

    Wow. Amazing.

  • @Thanhtoanofficial
    @Thanhtoanofficial Před 5 lety +1

    Does anyone know which power of PM SRM motor for this EV?

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 5 lety +2

      On a RWD Model 3, Rated max net power is 202kW/271HP and has a max torque of 416Nm/307ftLb.

  • @onsiteautomotiveandmechani7243

    How wide are these things hub to hub

  • @Alientraveler003
    @Alientraveler003 Před 2 lety

    What’s the price on something like this

  • @OneHonestGuy
    @OneHonestGuy Před 4 lety

    Hi, what was the build date of this Model 3? Thanks!

  • @sailingfreakshow
    @sailingfreakshow Před 4 lety

    Does anyone know the spacing between the outer subframe mounts please. I can't fine this info anywhere, not even on any of the few rear teardown videos.

  • @experienceexperiments7282

    I am from India, mountain ghat is very much in my country, I do not understand how much weight an electric car can climb on the ghat, tell me its information

  • @K5MOB
    @K5MOB Před 4 lety +1

    What is the measurement from outside wheel hub to outside wheel hub? I want to use one of these in a EV swap!

    • @mikaelkenson9901
      @mikaelkenson9901 Před 2 lety

      Did you ever find the answer to this question? I'm looking for the same :)

  • @Hirthirthirt
    @Hirthirthirt Před 2 lety

    is ths narrower than the Model S unit? I want to put some of these in a Cadillac or Caprice landyacht in the future. But I do not want that flush wheels...I want a deep rim-lip, so I need a narrower unit to begin with.

  • @2005manuelram
    @2005manuelram Před 4 lety

    how much does an installation of this system cost to another car?

  • @Reddylion
    @Reddylion Před 4 lety +1

    nice..

  • @aryanrajesh3250
    @aryanrajesh3250 Před 3 lety

    any idea about the shaft diameter?

  • @hughvera3569
    @hughvera3569 Před 3 lety

    some tesla model has 2 motor: synrm(rear) and pm(front)

  • @gregspeth152
    @gregspeth152 Před 4 lety

    I want to put one of these in my 1963 Nova SS . I am in. Anaheim California

  • @karlInSanDiego
    @karlInSanDiego Před 6 lety +1

    What made you pull it out?

    • @hudsojt
      @hudsojt Před 6 lety +1

      I'm pretty sure it came out of a totaled Model 3. You can see the ripped inside sidewall of the tire at 1:27. Also at the 1:00 minute mark you can see the inside rim of the wheel is slightly beat up which would never happen to a newly delivered vehicle.

  • @accordfreak1
    @accordfreak1 Před 5 lety

    are you planning to sell any of the suspension parts?

  • @sparkdog44
    @sparkdog44 Před 3 lety

    So why are they so expensive?

  • @Edgar-Friendly
    @Edgar-Friendly Před 6 lety +2

    Looks to be realistic to swap into a Fiero/MR2 or any RWD car.

    • @RaglansElectricBaboon
      @RaglansElectricBaboon Před 6 lety

      An AW11 MR2 with one of these would be awesome :)

    • @Edgar-Friendly
      @Edgar-Friendly Před 6 lety +1

      I don't see how Tesla would lose money selling drives and other parts. GM does this with their crate engines. If Tesla waits too long, some other company (say, in China) will make "crate motor bolt-ins". There is a replacement for displacement.

    • @greynolds17
      @greynolds17 Před 5 lety

      @@RaglansElectricBaboon and deadly....if you could get the tires to even hook up lmao

    • @apricity69
      @apricity69 Před 5 lety

      SW20 rear track is about 5 inches narrower than the Model 3. Both use 5x114.3 wheels with similar offsets, but 14mm wheel studs to handle the Tesla’s torque instead of 12mm on the Toyota.
      The good news is that the MR2’s rear suspension subframe is held on with about four bolts. The bad news is that those four bolts are in entirely different locations than the Tesla. Worse news is that the bottom of the firewall between the engine bay and the trunk might need major surgery. Good news is some of that’s been done before by a guy who put a rotary piston engine in an MR2 for 24 hours of Lemons.
      Alternatively, you could just mount everything behind the car and create a very long wheelbase MR2. Think outside the box, lol! That would leave the entire engine bay and trunk for batteries.
      The MR2 doesn’t require (conventional) power steering, so that’s easy. You’d still need to figure out vacuum for the brake booster..
      A stock Mk2 MR2 weighs about a thousand pounds less than a RWD Model 3. Whatever the final weight would be, it would certainly be a cool conversion.

    • @dotancohen
      @dotancohen Před 2 lety

      @@Edgar-Friendly Tesla is making more money selling Model 3s than they would selling retrofit kits. Every drivetrain they sell as a kit is a Model 3 they didn't sell. But if the chip shortage means that Tesla could build and sell these drivetrains while the rest of the Model 3 is bottlenecked, then that might be worth developing such kits. We're not there yet, though.
      And honestly, I'd rather part a scrap car to retrofit than buy a kit.

  • @danfratamico
    @danfratamico Před 5 lety

    Is the tire at 1:27 blown?

  • @jbarlett
    @jbarlett Před 6 lety +2

    How many total moving parts are in this motor?

    • @TheKimNeeper
      @TheKimNeeper Před 6 lety +2

      Jef b 1

    • @TheKimNeeper
      @TheKimNeeper Před 6 lety +1

      Well 1 and 2 bearings I guess. Then a reduction gear, done.

    • @jbarlett
      @jbarlett Před 6 lety +5

      From a marketwatch article re model a: “The company says its drivetrain has about 17 moving parts compared with about 200 in a conventional internal combustion drivetrain. “

    • @rif42
      @rif42 Před 6 lety

      @Kim Neeper Rasmussen; and a differential.

    • @vanamburgben
      @vanamburgben Před 6 lety

      Jef b idk but model s's have 97 moving parts

  • @fabiofabioaraujodacruz4934

    Quando o ser humano parar de ser egoísta, daí em diante pode ser que teremos uma tecnologia dessa a disposição de todos, o fim do combustível focio na verdade já está atrasado, mas infelizmente rende muito pra poucos, e a maioria é quem paga.

  • @suksesmandirimotor4549

    good simple

  • @shubhammathur4118
    @shubhammathur4118 Před 4 lety

    Hey, I have been working on a maintenance manual project for my company. Can I have your permission to use some snapshots of this video? Thanks

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 4 lety

      Yes, provided you link to my YT channel.

  • @gregspeth152
    @gregspeth152 Před 4 lety

    I need this installed in the back of my 1963 Nova , a Tesla battery . And Detroit speed mini tubs and front suspension! Anyone I. California have the skills to do this ?

  • @Elsonoliveira716
    @Elsonoliveira716 Před 6 lety

    Modern ingennering marvel

  • @Matthewjo22
    @Matthewjo22 Před 5 lety

    Hey I have a question how can I access your training courses

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 5 lety

      I don't have any training courses other than these videos, sorry!

  • @reviewcrewforyou
    @reviewcrewforyou Před 5 lety

    Thanks for your videos. Please help me put this in my 07 Cayman S. I can get fab done but need help on software side. Going to be for road course. i want to break a lot of hearts :)

  • @CyberlightFG
    @CyberlightFG Před 6 lety +1

    Looks like the hoverboard of Chuck Norris.

  • @arturoacosta5274
    @arturoacosta5274 Před 3 lety

    Y porque es Tesla?
    Acaso se usa energía fría?

  • @polopi5451
    @polopi5451 Před 4 lety

    How much ?

  • @C4Enema
    @C4Enema Před 4 lety

    Width?

  • @ankithhebbar7542
    @ankithhebbar7542 Před 5 lety +1

    how many kw is the motor?

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 5 lety +3

      It was rated 204kW, but Tesla recently added some power with a software upgrade, and I don't know what the official rating is now up to.

    • @ankithhebbar7542
      @ankithhebbar7542 Před 5 lety

      @@Ingineerix thank you!!

  • @Rick9482
    @Rick9482 Před 2 lety +1

    To all you Tesla naysayers, just rent one for week and you will understand completely.
    All the things you no longer need worry about mount up quickly. Once realized, there's no going back to ICE.

    • @0xbenedikt
      @0xbenedikt Před rokem

      You're completely right. It takes just one test drive to convince, indeed.

    • @Rick9482
      @Rick9482 Před rokem

      @@0xbenedikt I'm a touch over two years into owning a 3LR and driving has never been so enjoyable. I gotta admit, I'm a bit guilty of feeling superior to other car owners. They just don't know.......
      Don't have FSD and never will and just don't use AP. I find the constant reminder by AP an annoyance I can give without.
      Surprise, I'm eighty and still enjoy driving my own car.

  • @Alex-444x94
    @Alex-444x94 Před 3 lety

    its looks so simple... modern ice drivetrains give me look overwhelmingly complicated to me.

  • @Asdesign11
    @Asdesign11 Před 3 lety

    Do you have any contact info? Had some questions. Thanks.

  • @davidturner830
    @davidturner830 Před 5 lety

    Send that to the body shop along with the batt packs and I’ll build you a custom hot rod all the other bells and whistles I can do without

  • @simonac688.
    @simonac688. Před 3 lety

    And it drops out...? wow

  • @80Vikram
    @80Vikram Před 5 lety

    how does it rotates the wheel ?

  • @lambo723
    @lambo723 Před 9 měsíci

    unit avant ou arriere????

  • @mikejf4377
    @mikejf4377 Před 6 lety

    Could you get it to work with just the battery and drive unit, without all the other stuff?

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 6 lety +2

      The minimum needed would be the shifter (SCCM), Pack, and Drive unit. You would have to generate some CAN signals with a separate controller.

    • @mikejf4377
      @mikejf4377 Před 6 lety

      Ingineerix thanks, I think I could get that to work. I think this would be great.

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 6 lety +2

      Contact me when you have a project rolling. I will probably have a CAN controller available by then. These Model 3 components are going into another secret project soon!

    • @mikejf4377
      @mikejf4377 Před 6 lety

      I will, it wont be quick, I like the concept of using the Tesla system, Model S, 3 or X but can't do this quickly. Have been looking at damaged cars via ridesafely.com. getting more in state so shipping isn't crazy. Have you ever heard of MAGNAX, they make axil Flux High speed motors.

  • @WitchDoctor87
    @WitchDoctor87 Před 5 lety

    How much is a good cost for this setup? Also the best spot to get it. Good video ty!

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 5 lety +2

      The best bet is to buy a whole wrecked Model 3, as you'll find you need harnesses and all kinds of extra little parts. I do have a controller that can allow full operation of the drive unit outside of the car. Can use the original Tesla pack or any other high-voltage (250-400v) power source. All it requires is the matching (from the same car) security controller (VCSec), Accelerator pedal assembly, and some custom wiring. Once you are up and running you can then sell off all the parts you didn't use and make most of the purchase back.

    • @WitchDoctor87
      @WitchDoctor87 Před 5 lety

      @@Ingineerix I did find a full setup for a battery for $5,000 of a Chevy Volt batteries setup. Tesla S motor for $11,500. The motor comes from EV West. If you want to see whats all included. Is this a good option? The car I was to use is a Subaru impreza 1998 2.5RS. That is so much for the help. I've never built a car but reading more about electric cars. Its becoming a passion of mine.

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 5 lety +1

      The EV West guys are great, and will take care of you, but on all the Tesla drive units they sell, they remove Tesla's inverter drive board (and thus all Tesla's software) and install a third-party board from Europe. This is throwing away a lot of Tesla's awesome engineering for efficiency, power, and longevity. If it blows up, then what? (And they do!) I offer an external controller that doesn't require any modification to Tesla's drive unit, it keeps it 100% Tesla and makes it work as engineered by Tesla. (All protection features are still active) If for some reason there are any problems it's all standard, so replacement is easy and quick. Also, be sure you can fit a Model S drive unit in your Subi, They are large! Personally, I would recommend a Model 3 drive unit, it's much smaller, lighter, and more efficient.

    • @WitchDoctor87
      @WitchDoctor87 Před 5 lety

      @@Ingineerix You personally sell Tesla 3's? What I'm basically looking for is something that's good performance but also a daily driver. Good performance I mean something that compares to a Golf R or other fast hatches.

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 5 lety

      No I don't, sorry.

  • @hughvera3569
    @hughvera3569 Před 3 lety

    PM or SyRM?

    • @Ingineerix
      @Ingineerix  Před 3 lety

      czcams.com/video/6fkERTvTDGw/video.html

  • @michaelcampanella9724
    @michaelcampanella9724 Před 3 lety

    I have turbo vortex 5.3 ls engine bmw 330ci 2004 I wanna some how slap this under my engine so I have 2 cars in one