Such a lovely comment mate! Cheers ❤️ I’ve forwarded on the kind words to Abie and she’s chuffed! I think you may have just secured Active Idea’s second video with Abie! 🙈
My experience is that the WHR is very sensitive to where one has the watch on the arm. The manual says it should be worn two ”fingers” above the wrist. When I wear my Vertical atleast that distance from the wrist bone it works really well. Lower down it is hit and miss.
Yeah, it’s a shame that the sensor IS so sensitive to the placement on the wrist. Lots of people are all shapes and sizes so that probably explains the mad variation of accuracy (I also get quite good accuracy) but then I have seen some people’s experience be the complete opposite (pretty terrible). I must admit, I’m really digging Suunto at the moment and if they can release a “10 peak pro” with reduced bezels, TOPO maps & a new HR sensor… I would have my perfect adventure watch 🤭😍 Fingers crossed 🤞🏽
My question to abby is, would you not consider pairing a chest strap. Its my experience that nothing compares to the accuracy of a chest strap no matter what the brand of watch is, especially with weight lifting or cycling. But even with running i found Garmin, polar and suunto not great unless paired with a strap on a workout or run.
Thanks for the comment ❤️ As Abie mentioned in the video Abie does struggle seriously with extremely bad eczema (feel free to follow Abie on her public insta for those updates) so basically all straps are off the cards for 90% of her training. Also, many women struggle with the lack of general comfort of traditional chest straps (hence Garmin’s attempt at the ladies HRM-fit). Having a more accurate wrist-based HR sensor is also hugely beneficial for better accuracy of resources (body battery), resting heart rate, spo2 and sleeping HRV. For all these reasons.. she would welcome an improvement in HR accuracy ❤️ Hope that helped 🌟
I have no idea if I’m honest. The battery life is so good on Suunto I’ve never wanted to kick it out of ‘best’ gps. For my recent 100 mile ultras for example, I don’t charge the vertical and still finish with over 30%. I’d only flick it into “good” if I was doing like a week long expedition and forgot my charger 🔌 All the best mate, thanks for dropping a comment ❤️
What can you tell about steps counting? It seems to me 9peek pro does it not correctly! You con collect 2-3 thousands, just sitting and watching tv if you move your hands…((
From what you’ve said there it would be over counting steps.. but I think the greater concern is undercounting steps, the watch needs arm movement to register steps other wise it will register zero. So if it is counting the odd step sitting down it’s probably making for the deficit of missed steps when actually walking. You have two aspects of accuracy .. you have validity & reliability.. I think the watch reliably reports steps so you can confidently make comparisons (“did I achieve more steps than yesterday?” For example) but the validity of is it ACTUALLY measuring the amount of steps is questionable ❤️ Hope this helps
✌️👈 Just an FYI, Doesn't mean Peace. Winston Churchill used to do it alot. Have you read the £5 note with ole Winston "I have nothing to offer but blood, sweat, toil, and tears" Sounds very peaceful 🤔.... 🐊🐉🐙🦎🐍🐲. Nice review though, abbies cool
Thankyou for the history lesson 🤣 I did some Googling in genuine disbelief and to my surprise you were actually completely right haha. So thanks for the heads up 🙏🏽 Makes you objectively reflect on your behaviour.. ask those (“fundamentally… why do I do that”) existential questions 🤯 Wild. Thanks for the kind comments, I agree, Abie is cool 👍🏽
Tbh, this is all optical HR sensors at the moment, doesn’t matter what watch unfortunately. Shame about the steps, I have no idea how how accurate Suunto steps are compared to competitors. I’ve just quickly tested it against the Garmin Vivoactive 5 (video review coming soon). TEST: ---Arms swinging (40 steps walked)-- Suunto: start: 6846 finish: 6888 = 42 Garmin: start: 2591 finish: 2630 = 41 --Arms 90° completely still (40 steps)- Suunto: start: 6891 finish: 2891 = 0 steps Garmin: start: 2632 finish: 2673 = 41 step --------------------- Conclusion: it does seem you’re onto something here. I have heard people complain (and found it myself) about Garmin’s sensitivity (you’ll gain steps while driving a car for example). But it does seem like Suunto could definitely increase there sensitivity (algorithm) for people who don’t walk with dramatic arm swings 🤣 I know personally I would walk a lot with my hands in my pockets (especially in winter) or texting on a phone (the the watch on that same arm) which I now know would not be counted as steps 🤭
@@ActiveIdeas i first knew it when i pushed kids cart for few kilometers uphill and imagined i made a big work, but all that endup my day with only less than 2000steps through the active day :D also suunto coach is a joke, alongside HR on wrist. I try to catch my breath after deadlift session, feelink pulse twitching in my head, all that for watch to show my HR is 90. And after training it shows light training, recovery 3hours. Sure, was more like 3 days
The step situation really does suck tbf 🤣🤣 But with gym sessions like deadlifting most people would wear a chest strap because all watches would be wildly off during this exercise. Something about the arms being tensed and going through alternative movement gaits which optical-HR sensors don’t like. I’m really hoping for a Suunto 10 peak pro with a reduced bezel size and new HR technology.. this would be my dream watch
Sleep has been really good for me actually! Like impressively good! The new software update of naps seems to be working great as well (on race not sure when coming to peak pro or vertical). Yeah body battery (resources) is weird, no questions asked Garmin have got that one right, much more information making it actually useful
Thanks for a great review, looking forward to your next one Abie!
Cheers Andrew! ❤️ Abie’s already over a week into testing the AMOLED Race! So the next shouldn’t be long 🌟
Thanks. That was refreshing and informative and entertaining on the same time. Well done!
Such a lovely comment mate! Cheers ❤️ I’ve forwarded on the kind words to Abie and she’s chuffed! I think you may have just secured Active Idea’s second video with Abie! 🙈
@@ActiveIdeas Oh yes! That was actually the intention behind my message. Glad that it worked. 🙂
It really worked 🙈🔥
Have a question for Abie!? Drop it in the comments and she'll get straight back to you ❤
Let’s goooo! 🔥❤️
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I just got the Race Sunnto a beautiful looking watch I'm going to test it for a while to see if I'll keep it. Thanks for review. Big up from London
Welcome to the club brother! Let me know how you get on! Me and Abie are dropping our Suunto race video tomorrow 🔥 Big up from Norwich
My experience is that the WHR is very sensitive to where one has the watch on the arm. The manual says it should be worn two ”fingers” above the wrist. When I wear my Vertical atleast that distance from the wrist bone it works really well. Lower down it is hit and miss.
Yeah, it’s a shame that the sensor IS so sensitive to the placement on the wrist. Lots of people are all shapes and sizes so that probably explains the mad variation of accuracy (I also get quite good accuracy) but then I have seen some people’s experience be the complete opposite (pretty terrible). I must admit, I’m really digging Suunto at the moment and if they can release a “10 peak pro” with reduced bezels, TOPO maps & a new HR sensor… I would have my perfect adventure watch 🤭😍 Fingers crossed 🤞🏽
My question to abby is, would you not consider pairing a chest strap. Its my experience that nothing compares to the accuracy of a chest strap no matter what the brand of watch is, especially with weight lifting or cycling. But even with running i found Garmin, polar and suunto not great unless paired with a strap on a workout or run.
Thanks for the comment ❤️ As Abie mentioned in the video Abie does struggle seriously with extremely bad eczema (feel free to follow Abie on her public insta for those updates) so basically all straps are off the cards for 90% of her training. Also, many women struggle with the lack of general comfort of traditional chest straps (hence Garmin’s attempt at the ladies HRM-fit). Having a more accurate wrist-based HR sensor is also hugely beneficial for better accuracy of resources (body battery), resting heart rate, spo2 and sleeping HRV. For all these reasons.. she would welcome an improvement in HR accuracy ❤️ Hope that helped 🌟
I use the polar sense pro which is an optical heart rate monitor for the upper arm. .. works as well as a chest strap. And causes less irritation. ...
Thankyou! Funny enough I was looking at Polar arm straps on eBay today.. think I’ve found one 😍
Nice video. You have any idea what difference between GPS mode “Good” and “Best”. I see in manual both are 1 second fix and not dual band.
I have no idea if I’m honest. The battery life is so good on Suunto I’ve never wanted to kick it out of ‘best’ gps. For my recent 100 mile ultras for example, I don’t charge the vertical and still finish with over 30%. I’d only flick it into “good” if I was doing like a week long expedition and forgot my charger 🔌 All the best mate, thanks for dropping a comment ❤️
What can you tell about steps counting? It seems to me 9peek pro does it not correctly! You con collect 2-3 thousands, just sitting and watching tv if you move your hands…((
From what you’ve said there it would be over counting steps.. but I think the greater concern is undercounting steps, the watch needs arm movement to register steps other wise it will register zero. So if it is counting the odd step sitting down it’s probably making for the deficit of missed steps when actually walking.
You have two aspects of accuracy .. you have validity & reliability.. I think the watch reliably reports steps so you can confidently make comparisons (“did I achieve more steps than yesterday?” For example) but the validity of is it ACTUALLY measuring the amount of steps is questionable ❤️ Hope this helps
✌️👈 Just an FYI, Doesn't mean Peace. Winston Churchill used to do it alot. Have you read the £5 note with ole Winston "I have nothing to offer but blood, sweat, toil, and tears" Sounds very peaceful 🤔.... 🐊🐉🐙🦎🐍🐲. Nice review though, abbies cool
Thankyou for the history lesson 🤣 I did some Googling in genuine disbelief and to my surprise you were actually completely right haha. So thanks for the heads up 🙏🏽 Makes you objectively reflect on your behaviour.. ask those (“fundamentally… why do I do that”) existential questions 🤯 Wild. Thanks for the kind comments, I agree, Abie is cool 👍🏽
its support offline map?
No, for offline maps i’d check out the Race or Vertical ❤️
my HR monitor sucks while i am at gym. Also steps dont count if your arm doesnt move...
Tbh, this is all optical HR sensors at the moment, doesn’t matter what watch unfortunately. Shame about the steps, I have no idea how how accurate Suunto steps are compared to competitors. I’ve just quickly tested it against the Garmin Vivoactive 5 (video review coming soon).
TEST:
---Arms swinging (40 steps walked)--
Suunto: start: 6846 finish: 6888 = 42
Garmin: start: 2591 finish: 2630 = 41
--Arms 90° completely still (40 steps)-
Suunto: start: 6891 finish: 2891 = 0 steps
Garmin: start: 2632 finish: 2673 = 41 step
---------------------
Conclusion: it does seem you’re onto something here. I have heard people complain (and found it myself) about Garmin’s sensitivity (you’ll gain steps while driving a car for example). But it does seem like Suunto could definitely increase there sensitivity (algorithm) for people who don’t walk with dramatic arm swings 🤣 I know personally I would walk a lot with my hands in my pockets (especially in winter) or texting on a phone (the the watch on that same arm) which I now know would not be counted as steps 🤭
@@ActiveIdeas i first knew it when i pushed kids cart for few kilometers uphill and imagined i made a big work, but all that endup my day with only less than 2000steps through the active day :D also suunto coach is a joke, alongside HR on wrist. I try to catch my breath after deadlift session, feelink pulse twitching in my head, all that for watch to show my HR is 90. And after training it shows light training, recovery 3hours. Sure, was more like 3 days
The step situation really does suck tbf 🤣🤣 But with gym sessions like deadlifting most people would wear a chest strap because all watches would be wildly off during this exercise. Something about the arms being tensed and going through alternative movement gaits which optical-HR sensors don’t like. I’m really hoping for a Suunto 10 peak pro with a reduced bezel size and new HR technology.. this would be my dream watch
@@ActiveIdeas Also sleep is very off, also no naps!. body battery is weird and kinda useless.
Sleep has been really good for me actually! Like impressively good! The new software update of naps seems to be working great as well (on race not sure when coming to peak pro or vertical). Yeah body battery (resources) is weird, no questions asked Garmin have got that one right, much more information making it actually useful
Guess he's not getting the watch back. Best wishes.
Wasn’t expecting Abie to be such a massive Suunto fan 🙈 But she loves it! 🔥 Should have a Race review next week 👊🏽
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