What If GOHAN was in DRAGON BALL SUPER BROLY?
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- What If Gohan was in Dragon Ball Super Broly and fought Golden Frieza?
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Dragon Ball Super Broly was a reintroduction to one of the most famous Dragon Ball characters from the non-canon portion of the series - Broly. However, this movie was also meant to be a celebration of Dragon Ball as it was the 20th movie, but it really fell short of that mark due to its focus on Goku, Vegeta, and Broly exclusively, while having very little interaction with other members of the cast. This is where today’s what if comes in. I’m not going to be fixing this problem entirely, but I am trying to alleviate it by adding Gohan to the movie. I will say that this is a rewrite rather than a factual What If based on what we already know - I can already see all the “Gohan wouldn’t be helpful” comments so I wanted to make that clear. I will be going over what would actually happen as well when I make my changes. So, what if Gohan was a part of Dragon Ball Super Broly?
After watching the video feel free to leave any and all counter points in the comments below - I love a good discussion.
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Carthu’s Dojo can you still do what if goku was born with god ki.
What if gohan wasn't born? Or what if goten and trunks were both goku's sons or in other words what if goten and trunks were brothers
I'd like to explore the future trunks timeline if goku never gets the heart virus like his effectiveness against the androids if cell still comes as well as buu ect.
You gave no good reason why you made frieza weaker than the movie. Gohan proved he can at least keep in the dispo fight and gohan would never threaten to knock off frieza if he didn't think he could. Instead of making frieza weak you could have just said goku did some training with him. With gohans potential and growth speed it would have made more sense.
I like how gohan thought frieza was planning to make a devious wish but really he just wanted to grow a few inches
Or "five full centimeters"
True but first of all can you really trust frieza because he’s always backstabs other and on top of even after that wish he could have gotten immortality as well.
@@jdc2001prime wait didn't he give up on immortality because it would mean eternal misery to him?
Luis Lazo the OOF 2 I mean it depends for the person and there personality.
@@jdc2001prime and also, what would frieza do with immortality, he isn't a saiyan so no zenkai, and his empire could easily be destroyed by goku and vegeta and he could easily be just stuck being defeated.
I actually liked that the cast was small and focused in DBS Broly.
Same, I mean focusing on the relevant characters is what makes the movie fun. It's called "DBS Broly" so yeah, pretty much on that saiyan.
I liked it because it meant I could just focus on a few people and overload my brain with too many characters
If Gohan was in the movie then he would pull the biggest "uno reverse" to Frieza
@Neeyaw I don't think so because Gohan has kept training since the ToP and I can imagine how strong he has become and this was set a year after the ToP. And I doubt Frieza has been training without a suitable training partner.
@@courtneyward7149 mental training helps
@@courtneyward7149 I thought it was six months
@@slinux8420 true
@Neeyaw yeah right. Gohan is totally in True Golden Frieza power range... And he has more practical skill by comparison. He's not exactly a martial arts master on the level of the OG Dragonball guys, but he still has the edge over Frieza in skill and comparable power
What if Goten and Trunks were trained by their fathers?
Then there would be no gap between the 2. Goten would be slightly stronger bcuz proper tutelage and if Goku and Goten go through gravity....that would incite the half-breeds to get Stronger
This is a good idea but would be much better to do if there is a time skip in the future of super
Jayswin Donley they have a lot of potential so they’ll probably be really strong
What if Pan trained under Goku with Uub well Bulla trained with Vegeta. and Marron trained under the turtle school master Krillin. and uub and pan eventually got married by age 801 after there bonding training together. and marron and trunks got together, Android 18 gettin that capsule corp money!!! and goten got vegeta's blessing to marry bulla by age 801!!! tired of dragon ball being in the 10 years of peace time skip get to the 790s/800s already!!!
MasterFalkner nice fan fiction but that’s not a what if
i honestly see Gohan and Broly becoming really good friends once they get to know each other, Gohan would see a lot of himself in Broly
except Brolys power is far more dangerous and uncontrollable when he's enraged.
@@shadowgl9 same like Gohan
@@user-vs9ds3dc2y but Gohan is usually in control, or he’s arrogant. He never becomes mindless or a rage monster. That only happened once as an Oozaru.
@@shadowsansvii8715 kinda did when he first raged against raditz.
@@shadowgl9 Only thing more dangerous is his inability to control his power.
What if Goku trained with whis before the buu saga/after the cell saga? Beerus wakes up early, still has his preminition, and goes to earth but of course much earlier. Just putting it out there.
Goku couldn't go god because pan wouldn't be around in videls stomach
@@vickywachen3547 Oh yeah thats a good point. Possibly some sort of difference in the plot could happen here or possibly whis revives gine (the only other most likely pure heart saiyan we know of).
@@vickywachen3547 maybe they'd get broly with the dragon balls?
@@kwamemwangs2173 they didn't of brolys existence but they could just wish for another so that could happen but if Paragus showed up I think that would be cooler cause of his hatred of vegeta and he wouldn't have broly with him to fight vegeta.
@@vickywachen3547 they still have broly
I think it would be a little funnier if Gohan was in the Great Saiyaman outfit, maybe he's at conference and doesn't want to mess up his work clothes, or he is saving people and can't get a Gi in time. Just imagine seeing Frieza's face when this caped, helmeted warrior take the Dragon Balls.
yeah and if he did that broly wood be dead gogeta wodo kill him as gohan not smary eought to wish borly off the plaent
Freeza: "Ginyu, is that you?"
Great saiyaman: "No, I am the great saiyaman, and I will defeat you evil doer."
*Strikes pose*
Freeza: "Oh, good, it is you ginyu."
@@ssjgotenks2009 Godzilla tried to read this and fucking died
That would be badass having Gohan and Frieza being enemy to each other.
both are unnaturally strong compared to the rest of their race
@@saiyanc137 true
Yeah true seems like it would be an interesting rival
@@saiyanc137 to be fair we only seen 4 of frieza race, cooler(whose not canon but I'll still mention him here), frieza, frost, and king cold.
@@demarkus4566 there is also "Chilled"
It makes no sense for frieza to be weaker because nothing different but gohan fighting is new
6969subs Noviews he definitely weakin frieza to do this
6969subs Noviews he definitely weakin frieza to do this
6969subs Noviews he definitely weakin frieza to do this
Frezia could defeat piccilo and gohan workig together
Golden Frieza and Gohan are close in power, Frieza outsmarts Gohan and one shots Piccolo
Gohan:NO I CANT LET FRIEZA BE 5 CENTIMETRES BIGGER!!!
Yee we can’t let that happen never
Gohan being the only one who actually cares about the actual wish would be hilarious
"NO! WE CAN'T LET HIM DO THAT! IT'S NOT NATURAL GROOOOWTH!"
Ok fine, this is actually pretty cool I admit. I mean yeah no SSBroly or Gogeta and Frieza is dead which sucks because what was the point of having him come back AGAIN only to be killed off so soon but STILL. Not bad.
I would have loved to see this in the movie up until the death Friza. I feel like he's grown to a necessary evil now for the story. Feel like he should get more of build up before being killed again.
Like I would really enjoy another movie where Friza returns to his home meets his brother, some events happening that bring them into conflict, but then they decide to over throw Beerus with the aid from another G.O.D, which would then bring the Cold Brothers into conflict with the Z fighters after somehow either sealing or restricting Beerus
TerraEmperor1 frieza will never challenge the god of destruction. No matter what.
@Barbell King then Goku activated ass pull ultra instinct. If cooler is going to come back, then it has to be after Moro arc for sure because by the time it has happened, Goku has mastered ultra instinct.
Do a what if vegeta got the heart virus instead
Underrated idea.
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This
Trunks: •_•
How would that work?
Fantastic writing there! This is why i like your videos; you come up with ideas that are completely feasible in the Dragon Ball lore. Not only that, but in certain situations, dare i say, your writing seems better.
What if vegeta abandoned the saiyans to train after beerus visits planet vegeta
I do not understand??
I think he means What if Vegeta abandoned the saiyans to train after Beerus visited Planet Vegeta.
@@sweetandsover776 i think he meant what if vegeta when he was still a child got beerus to train him when beerus was visiting planet vegeta.
@@mms7328 I think he meant what he said
@@ireallydontcare8359 not exactly, vegeta sees how beerus humiliated his father, and in a fit of rage, charges beerus, but beerus catches his fist, knocking him down, vegeta is humiliated and torn apart, beerus tells him " your strong, but power is not all that matters, no matter how strong you are born, or the natural talent you have, training will always ne superior" and with that, vegeta vows to train, namekian, yardrat, anything he can do to train, no longer the proud saiyan, now the most intelligent and knoledgefull fighter in universe 7
I came back here when we have now Gohan beast and Black frieza ...
Carthu this was fire bro 💯🔥
Loved the video keep up the content
I like how there’s actually character development in this what if cause there isn’t much in super
Great vid
I like this story because, it would’ve gave gohan the will to fight again and would’ve also added broly to the Z fighters, we would’ve had a big 4 instead of just goku and vegeta
Carthu ur the best i like your vids keep making videos like this
Carthu I luv your videos I’m the biggest fan
Oh Man, Gohan & Piccolo Vs Frieza, That Sounds Like A Dream Fight To Me, I Would Love To See That Animated, Oh & Vegeta Being Mad At Goku For Frieza's Revival Makes Sense, Because Of U Remember, Not Only Was He The One Who Offered The Spot For Him In The TOP, But Also Made A Deal To Revive Him, Of They Win, So Even Though Beerus/Whis Were The Ones Who Revived Frieza, Vegeta Has Every Right To Be Angry At Goku, Because He's The One Who Made The Deal To Begin With, Granted, They Would've Lost In The TOP Without Frieza In There, But Still, Vegeta Being Mad At Goku For Frieza's Revival, Does Makes Sense, Even If He Kinda Earned It For Helping The Z Fighters Win TOP
but goku wasnt going to actually commit to his part and even frieza realized that
@@DrPepperFan I Don't Think Goku Is The Kind Of Guy Who Would Back Up From His Own Deal... *VEGETA* However, Would
Brilliant Thumbnail Carthu!
Nice dude
Day one of asking Carthu to do "What if The Super Saiyan God ritual was done on Vegeta"
Boy, you gonna be waiting for a while, I've been asking for my what if for a while
I don't see much of a difference in the story
Yeah Gilberto Lara i think am with u i want that what if too
Vegeta would be stronger than Goku for a little time
Not in character for vegeta to apologize.
He said sorry in the cell saga
Love these
I live the way you write your what if’s pleases more dragon ball content
Yo, the thumbnail is kinda hard ngl 🔥
Great video.
Would love to see a "What if Goku actually taught Gohan Super Sayian 3?"
Or what if goku and gohan both unlocked ultimate form
Ultimate form is stronger
two possible moments :
1 : at the realm of the kai
2 : after Buu saga
What if Gohan trained with Vegeta after the Cell arc?
Maybe Gohan would be way stronger than Goku's ssj3 and Vegeta would definitely be stronger than ssj2 Goku
@@taecampus vegeta would have no need for power so babidi woudnt get the energy from majin vegeta
Yay everyone is saved.....oh wait gohan is stronger the untrained gohan gave buu half the energy needed to revive a gohan who kept his power from the cell games and greater should be at least twice as strong as originally.....
As soon as they reach the ship of babidi maybe Vegeta has time to kill pui pui
Buu is revived....but with a stronger ssj2 gohan and ssj3 goku maybe they can kill buu there right away before he powers up anymore
Goku goes back to otherworld
Time later beerus wakes up fights dead ssj3 goku is still the same fight
But when they get to earth without buu beerus is not as pissed off still wanting his ssj god then when they realize they are one saiyan short whis revives goku and the story goes as the original
We have a gohan who does train however is weaker than the original due to the lack of his potential being unleashed
He would do better in resurection F for sure
But once in the tournament of power would be weaker way weaker
Even if they win the tournament
Without buu moro would kill goku and vegeta
And if not the earth would be conquered by the red ribbon army due to everyone being too weak to stand against cell max or maybe even the gammas when goku and vegeta get to earth Even if they are strong enough to beat them its already too late
@@danielgonzalez-vm5lj hmmmm, I would disagree mate. You are massively underestimating Gohan's potential. If anything, if him and Vegeta kept training together after the Cell games, Gohan would still be pretty broken. I would even say he'd be just as strong or close to his Potential Unleashed form. Even if Babidi used Gohan's ki to bring back Buu quicker than the original timeline, I think even Vegeta (who's been training with Gohan at this point) would be enough to finish Buu. Not to mention, the Beerus, Res F, Uni 6, Black and ToP Saga takes place 4 years after the Buu Saga. Which means 4 years of training for them. During this point, Gohan would've been close to ssj Vegito's level.... which is not really threatening to Beerus. But if things played out like in the movie (or similar), Goku uses ssj God but would get beat by Beerus again. However, with version of Gohan, I'm sure he would definitely join Goku and Vegeta to go train with Whis. Freeza would get bodied, Universe 6 would lose to 7. The only issue would be that Zamasu would essentially carry out his plan like in the show, but with another Gohan's body since he's the strongest outta the group.
What if bulma actually united the whole 7 dragon balls not only 6 😆 😆 😆
If you're referring to the events of Dragonball Super Broly, then she would have got the wish to be 5 years younger as Broly will probably be killed by Gogeta's Kamehameha.
May be sorta late but I loved this video ❤️
This is awesome.
Good way to spend my break at work
I enjoyed the hell out of this one thank you for this great what if.
In this version of the movie, Gohan doesn't want Frieza to grow by 5cm.
"Youre gonna stay short and like it!"
@@taecampus"Accept you're horizontally challenged, FRIEZA!"
2 years laters we get Dragon Ball Super: Superhero focusing on Gohan and Piccolo
Title: what if gohan was in dbs broly
Gohan: having ptsd from resurrection of F
Thumbnail goes hard
Hey carthu quick question do you think manga Gohan could beat golden frieza since he was able to draw with (I won't say beat) Super saiyan Kefla by himself?
I love how you use Dragon Ball Super Broly art. They make the characters look really nice.
Also DBZ Manga art is really good.
Hey! Another cool thumbnail update.
😂👍
Always 🗿
Wow this is just as good as what if Broly listened to Goku, nicely done Carthu
It'd be dope if Gohan showed up At Bulma house with Pan and is informed by Beerus. They've gone to grab the last dragon ball b4 frieza gets it. Realizing the threat, gohan leaves pan with Beerus alongside Bulla, Flying off. Meanwhile SS God Vegeta fends off against Broly. Frieza shoots a near miss at Vegeta then Broly takes advantage and pummels him. Goku scolds Frieza but saves and replaces Vegeta. While they're fight ensues, Frieza is seconds from summoning Shenron. Suddenly 1 swoop and the 4star Ball is in the hand of purple gi Gohan disrupting the Summoning. As Frieza and Gohan argue momentarily then take fighting poses. He informs frieza "The tournament opened my eyes for new ways of improving. Im much stronger now" Frieza vs Gohan commence. SS God Goku is pummeled as well but Piccolo arrives with senzu for 2. SS Blue fights Broly But suddenly gohan has upperhand then shoots a death beam directly at Paragus. Broly sees and goes Rage Legendary super saiyan. With SS Goku in trouble, Frieza smiles, Vegeta and Gohan race to help Goku alongside Piccolo. SSBlueGoku,Vegeta,Ultimate Gohan and Piccolo fight Broly and all are defeated soonafter with frieza resummoning the Dragon. Vegeta nods at Goku and they leads Broly to Frieza who gets Beaten senselessly. Piccolo advises Goku and Vegeta to fuse to dominately overpower him. Gohan insists saying "yes bcuz He will only get stronger as you fight him." As Frieza is beaten gold then normal. Vegeta is taught the fusion by goku & Piccolo rushes off with gohan to keep Broly in check. 15 minutes Broly launches a 2 earth shattering Green Balls with 1 knocking Frieza into a nearby mountain. The other Green Ball is averted by gohan's kamehameha and Piccolo masenko. Enter Gogeta who successfully fuses and instant transmitts to Gohan and diverted the blast. Gogeta then transmits the battle against Broly to supreme kai world for Earth's sake. The battle happens there. Back on earth Broly 2 alien friends convince gohan of broly being "not evil" gohan knew within he had good like goku knew. So gohan makes the wish and Broly is transferred home before the big bang kamehameha hits him. And Ultimate gohan was ready gor frieza agai. But instead flees when Gogeta appears suddenly. Gohan in suprise like "Woww uh dad?" They then defuse and the 3 return with bulma notices All this time Whis was in the background eating popcorn enjoying the whole fight..
The end.
I Enjoyed :)
Eh. I usually like the what ifs here, but to make Frieza die so easily when he got his ass kicked by Broly for over an hour and came out alright?
Frieza Frankly will be more relevant then Gohan for the future as the new n3 behind Goku and Vegeta. Well, Broly too I guess.
Good for the Gohan fans who liked this though.
people say ssj broly is weak because he could beat up frieza for an hour. But Broly was fighting on par with ssj gogeta that is far stronger compared to blue evolution vegeta and ssbkkx20 goku.
He said it was a re-write for this comment to not be made.
I'm ok with the focus on Goku and Vegeta. They're imo the central characters of the Super Arc
"Gohan would simply grab them from the air"
Yeah, grabbing from the air is not quite his speciality.
Part 2 plz
What if Gohan trained with Whis
Super Saiyan green
No, Blanco
@@cosmicarmorsuperman3729 blanco ain't canon
King Explosion Murder it was a joke
Grand Priest Goku MUI
*Bye Jiren*
8:11 goku looks like he was about to go mui
This is a great video. Gohan and Piccolo were badass fighting Frieza. It's too bad there's no SSJ Blue Gogeta and Full Power Broly. But the ending was sweet and good.
Dragon Ball Super: Broly was a story based around 3 pure blooded saiyans driven by fate to meet each other on the battlefield, it makes no sense to include other characters or complain about it if the stories consensus is completely based around 3 saiyans.
Nobody asked you dweeb
@@jswiss8k only you decided to comment after 8 months how does it feel you trog?
I do like the addition of a half-blooded saiyan also being there, though. To serve as a contrast to the pure bloods
I mean, I like it, but Frieza survived LSSJ Broly. He wouldn't lose to Gohan and Piccolo. I know you said you depowered him, but it doesn't seem fair to nurf him THAT much. I thought you were going to power up Gohan instead :P
AthlonCAP he would do u not know how smart and strong they are
@@schtoko I have no idea what this comment was supposed to be saying...
AthlonCAP they (Gohan and piccolo) would beat frieza
Broly wasn't in his lssj form yet and if you think hes weak in his ssj form, he fought a ssj gogeta that's way stronger than blue kaioken goku and blue evolution vegeta
@@blair1874 I'm talking about in the movie. I have absolutely no problem with the fact that Broly didn't transform in this video. What I am talking about is the fact that Frieza should not lose to a Gohan that has not powered up substantially since the tournament. That would put Gohan above Super Saiyan Blue, which he's not.
Yes Carthu!!!!
So you gonna redo this to take Beast into account or something?Also why did you make Freezer weaker?Gohan and Vegeta vs Freezer would've been interesting,specially since seeing how he took Broly beating his endurance and maybe Offense is mych higher than theirs.
why would gohan go beast?
Plus, we don't even know if freeza is all that stronger than goku and vegeta, judging by how he was broly's ragdoll for an hour, and that's really only because of his races insane endurance.
Like, he survived being cut in half and having part of his skull blown of in space after being blasted by super saiyan goku, doesn't mean he's stronger than him.
I want a continuation of this real talk lol
i came back to watch this vid because I remembered u mentioned the build up to gohan and freiza an now gohan has beast and frieza has black
Gohan would've gotten clapped by Broly
Knight Hawke i mean goku vegeta and frieza were getting bodied aswell. Broly is just a beast
Knight Hawke facts
Broly doesn't even acknowledge gohan in the video
manga gohan would have put up a good fight
I love how he words everything he says
I wonder what kind of knock-on effects this would have for the new manga chapters.
Will you continue this what if when the Moro Arc is over ?
Why frieza is weaker in this story? There is no reason for him to lose power
yh that’s what I thought
Keaton Harris ssb goku and vegeta got annihilated against ssj broly frieza lasted an hour and he still could’ve took more he still had his golden form
@@vegitodev Frieza's just durable asf remember this is the same guy that tanked a spirit bomb.
ICAME!ForDis yh so he would destroy Gohan and piccolo
@Keaton Harris gohan is not ssjb level are u slow he is ssjg not ssjb
Can you please do a what if goku went ultra instinct during the fight with broly instead of going super sayain blue
full rewrite? 👀
8:23 LETSS GO! THE OG MAKANKOSAPPO
Yo u should make a vid called whar if goku was immortal or what if goku was eliminated first in the tournament of power
I would have expected for Paragus to either get killed by a stray ki blast or in the midst of trying to protect Freiza by jumping infront of an attack, which would continue the course of the canon movie.
When will carthu do the redo?
I just realized frieza tail started wagging when he heard they got the dragon balls😂
Maybe you have done it, but I tried a quick search and didn’t see anything on it, but could you do a “what if Cell was pushed out of the ring by Goku during the Cell Games” video. I wonder what Cell would do and how it would change Buu saga if no one was even a SSJ2 at the end of Cell saga. 7 years to train right, but does that mean Goku and Vegeta get SSJ 2, no one gets 3, Gohan still stuck as 1 and no Ultimate/Mystic?
do you realy think cell wodo take that lsoe he keep fighting
But the question would remain, would this gohan have the effect like vegeta did in the movie? Presenting something new; like how vegeta went ssjg, but instead with ultimate or a new ascendtion
Mikael Brady hopefully not
What if goku never had kids
if u commented this on salad Saiyan he wouldn’t because he kisses Gohan feet
@@vegitodev more like nuts in his face
I have a what if that probably won’t be seen: what if goku and broly were sent to earth together (either in the same pod or just same destination, you could also make broly younger)
What if Vegetto didn't separate inside of Bu?
Imagine if in this timeline gohan wears piccolo’s gi like in the tournament of power manga arc and Dbs super hero
what if vegeta was the legendary super saiyan, what if planet vegeta had dragon balls, and what if there was a half angel. Just some ideas for new videos
i rate the ideas they're pretty good :)
This can be the tv ver of the movie
Can you please do another episode of if goku was sent to beeres
planet?
Carthu do what if goku was the LSS
Heard another what if about this and the other 1 was more sensible
Being first dosent make you special because I'm first
😂
Your stinky
Noah hayes no u
@@noahhayes7041 tell that'll to your sun tanned teeth
@@noahhayes7041 sure i agree
Please do a what if bardock trained with wish.
Sorry I missed it carthu
This would have been an awsome set up for a cannon cooler it HAS TO BE the next movie
I am gonna join your channel
I just disliked Frieza's death. It wouldn't make sense for him to be revived just to die again so soon. He should escape instead.
Frieza's death makes some amount of sense. Even during the tournament of power, nobody trusted frieza, not that they should've trusted him to begin with. Gohan was even willing to go as far as to eliminate frieza in the tournament of power, even though frieza was a powerful asset to the team. Now, gohan has no reason to hold back against frieza. Even in the tournament, he tried to eliminate frieza, but failed to do so, due to him being exhausted because of the yardrat he fought from universe 2. It is true that piccolo and gohan teaming up and killing frieza doesn't make sense, because piccolo does not compare to golden frieza, but they can hold him off. Vegeta would probably join while goku fights broly. And if vegeta joins in, frieza would not be able to escape and would be killed by vegeta.
@@xdanime6621 It makes sense powerwise but not storywise. Frieza came back to stay.
@@phelpsnodt5856 ok to the story then yea he should stay for longer
0:22 Best decision ever! This means that the writers could write a more compelling and round history.
I've enjoyed the scenario you propose, thought.
BRO just let him have the 5 Centimeters
fr
Yeah for reals
facts
When he said loudy and obnoxiousily was freaking hilarious😂😂😂😂😂
Do a Gohan Redemption arc
do a full rewrite of dragon ball super
Woah nice thoughts on it. But, have you ever thought on what would have happened in Krillin died from the Saibamen instead on Yamcha..?
Then Krillin would get double meme'd
Hello can I ask you a question Carthu's Dojo plz
can u do a video when vegeta or goku train with gohan and actually make him strong
In one of your other what ifs didnt you say it took broly goku and vegeta blu evolution and kaioken to be frieza in his golden form