BlackHeart Bike Co. // Titanium All-Road Bike // Ridden And Reviewed!
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- A road-oriented titanium all-road bike that's as timeless as it is capable on and off road. Find out why the BlackHeart Bike Co. titanium all-road bike is so fun and flickable in this in-depth review.
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Mr Sauce you are now a top influencer in the bicycle segment on CZcams. The blackheart is one clean looking bicycle
Mr. Sauce 😆
This channel deserves more exposure
Thx, Long!
It will...oh yes, it will.
Haha I’m ok with slow and steady.
Couldn't agree more
Excellent review, thanks!
It's a mystery why you only have 5.85k subs. Bravo sir, your content is professional and reliable. Please, more!
Thanks! I’m ok with slow and steady.
the videos you have created are getting you noticed. great presentation on the bike. i hope you get many more opportunties to review other bikes.
Thanks! Too kind.
really good on-point review. for all the reasons you state here, this frameset is on my very short list for a no bs versatile all road rig.
I currently have one of these on loan for the week and I’m absolutely loving it. Already saving to get myself one in the near future
Niiiiice
Great video! The way you break down the review is very well done. I was looking for this exact style of bike (90% road/10% off road) and decided on a Litespeed Watia. I’d say it’s a bit less roady but suits my style of riding. Just ordered some Scribe RaceD wheels for road mode.
Ohhhhh nice. Baller
@@TheBikeSauce thanks. Lots of saving up and selling other bikes. Totally worth it. I don’t have that CZcams money 😂
Just ordered one because of this video….and of course Zack’s awesome customer service….cant get that in most places 🤙🏽
AWESOME REVIEW! Very INFORMATIVE - Good Stuff! 👍🤘😎
thx!
You are right about the seat post. My moots is 27.2 which they recommend for this type of bike. Looks like a nice bike though. I think it would be nice to have AT least 40-45mm tire for an "All Road" bike though
Nice to see a transparent company about the source of their frames. The welding spots though seem uneven where the downtube meets the headtube. No hate for the lovers! Love EPO hate UCI!
I ordered a titanium gravel bike frame a few weeks ago from China.. still don't know if it was a good idea but I can't wait to build it !
Nice!
look really good bike. really want have this kind bike.
20 years on my self-built up Ti road bike and loving it. Nothing like Ti. Not knocking all the other frame materials but it just works for me.
One thing though. Please, if you're going to be riding as aggressively as you do in these videos, wear gloves. You seriously don't want to find out why the hard way.
Its absolutely beautiful 😍
It really is! They did a great job on design.
Seatpost seems to have been done for dropper post widths. I'd say that was unnecessary, as there are 27.2 dropper posts available anyway.
Excelent review. It looks like an alternative option instead of Curve Belgie V3 and even less expensive
Is there a recommended max weight limit?
I noticed you mentioned a size 52. What are you measurements if you don’t mind me asking? Height and saddle height from the center of the bb to the top of the saddle, if you would. Thanks! I enjoy your videos!
5’8” w 29-30” inseam
Any chance on testing the Alroad AL any time soon? The TI is a bit out of budget i'm afraid. And since i'm from Belgium, Europe, testing one myself is not an option. 🤷♂️
I’ll reach out to them and ask!
Any chance you can demo a aluminum version?
How does the Ti compare to the Al version?
And now, they just announced an aluminum version. That really got my attention
“All the fun, half the price” I’m looking forward to testing it out too
How does this bike compare to a Litespeed Ultimate Gravel which is similar? Prices are roughly the same but it's made in the USA.
no issues
At 1:51 or 1:53 it seems like the cables are rubbing against the sharp edges of the internal cable routing entry. Isn't there a plastic plug?
There are plugs, just not shown in that shot.
The cable routing ports at the top of the down tube aren't sharp, so there are no cable rub issues.
@@zacharylambert8631 But don't you see the already rubbed cable at 1:53?
@keren weng sorry, I don't think I'm seeing what you're seeing. Might be a little dirt? Feel free to send me an email and I'll respond with some detailed pics of the routing on this exact bike. Hello@blackheartbikeco.com
How does this compare with the Specialized Diverge? If money weren't an issue, which would you choose as your own?
The Diverge is definitely more slack and dirt oriented. Since my preference is to ride mostly gravel with the occasional paved connecting road, I'd go Diverge. If I were a mostly-road cyclist, who likes to venture off-road every now and again, Blackheart all the way.
If you tap the frame with metal does it ring like a bell or absorb the sound? If it rings then how can any vibration dampening claims be true?
Sonic vibrations are in a totally different band of the frequency spectrum than road vibration. Damping (not dampening) only occurs across a certain bandwidth for a given material.
@@TheBikeSauce You hit the nail on the head. The bike industry only uses tests which confirm the marketing they want to tell people - that the frame material's don't matter so much as tire pressure. It all matters. Between you and the road is a series of springs that all compress, not just the softest spring.
Having owned ~25 bikes in about the same amount of years, I can tell you that frame material does matter. With frame material, the tube diameters and butting profile ranges within the given properties of a material type and the appropriate for the application of the tubeset make even more of a difference on how a frame feels.
There are no claims from our end. We love the look and timelessness of titanium, and we love how our bike rides. At the end of the day you can make a great bike out of any material or you can make a really bad bike out of any material. What's most important is to get to know the company who makes your bike and test ride one first if you can.
Awesome ride, awesome report! But what is the damage?
Haha you’ll have to check out their site for that. Honestly on par for a high end Ti bike
You should try bearclaw thunderhawk it has a ti fork too. Possibly the only bike in the world which can be all ti.
Right, I’m definitely interested in the Thunderhawk. Harder for small channels to get bikes to review, but I’ll continue to reach out to companies
I wish you could do a review or get your hands on a Rondo Ti. bike and try the 2 geometries
Haha, same!
Seat post looks massive, for some reason you seem to see a lot of titanium bikes with 31.6 or even bigger seatposts...is there any specific reason for this? Especially on a gravel bike 27.2 should be the better choice really...
I don’t think any bikes have bigger seat posts since this is a standard size. However, the owner stated it was an aesthetic choice. I think also a Ti post in 27.2 might be to flex.
When designing I preferred the aesthetic of the larger diameter seat tube in proportion to the other tube sizes I spec'd. Nothing more complicated behind the decision.
@@blackheartbikeco thanks for the clarification! :)
comparing to the diverge.. what are your thoughts on carbon vs Ti?
Unfortunately, the bikes are too different to compare material properties directly. In general, it feels that carbon can be super muted, while the Ti can be muted enough to take the edge off, but still offer a unique ride feel with lots of feedback.
@@TheBikeSauce I’ve went through two Roubaix and the first gen Diverge, while they’re excellent I’ve always had a thirst for a Ti frame. Which leads back to a Diverge Carbon or Ti Gravel. And BTW excellent reviews on the Hunt too
A 27.2 titanium seatpost gives more flex but its better to throw on a thudbuster ST. Oversized 1.5 fork also makes a stiffer front end. Switch to a 44cm cowbell, double wrap tape, and ride the flared flat down bar when the gravel starts rattling your brain.
Priorities sorted!
I would belive a bent seat post may give complete response
I have two road bikes - A steel bike with a straight 1 1/8" head tube and a titanium one with 44mm head tube and a tapered fork (both have full carbon forks). I really do feel like the tapered fork is way too stiff. It's not only the fork, but the front end of the frame which is so much stiffer than the steel road bike. Tapered forks and steerer tubes on anything outside of mountain bikes really don't make any sense whatsoever.
I would also note that 72.5 degree seat angle for a size 52 (according to the website) is far too slack in my opinion. Femur lengths for shorter people are also shorter - especially Asian body types.
Hi Jay, our frames come standard with a zero offset seatpost, which accounts for the slacker seat tube angle.
How about a video on bike gps computers and lights or what you use.
Unfortunately I’m old school. Edge510 from about 6 years ago still going strong.
I've watched this maybe 10 times, close to pulling the trigger on the aluminum version! Have you ever ridden a regular road bike? Hoping this is just relaxed "enough" that I don't miss my actual CAAD (while I still have one... I want EXACTLY what Zach and Blackheart are doing; a road "race" bike that can fit 38s!
I came from a Specialized Allez, then a Roubaix, now a Diverge. The Blackheart feels closest to the Roubaix I'd say.
@@TheBikeSauce so the Roubaix still feels like it could do all the regular road stuff you did?
For me, 100%. I don’t race, and prefer all day comfort
@@TheBikeSauce I’m still looking for that all day comfort but still want to push the pace on the local fast group ride, I’m really thinking this could fit the bill since I have other bikes to fill the gap between chunky gravel and actual road race crit bike… this will be a good middle ground…
Tell ‘em I sent you! Enjoy!
Just like Moots that released its RCS model 2021. They said its a roadbike geometry like the RSL but can can take up to 35mm tires. It was intended to be a road bike that can handle unpredictable terrain .. Man! All this different types of bike got me so confused already.😭
So many options these days. Good and bad, but I prefer to have the choices that not
@@TheBikeSauce agree. But it’s kinda scary if we end up with the wrong choice. 😭 thanx for the reply!
I have really big feet one time I fell over at a stoplight from toe overlap on my diverge comp carbon.
Dang! That's the worst. Hope you've recovered.
May I ask, which version/size of the Diverge? It's on my short list as I run my cleats quite far back so toe overlap is a big concern of mine.
@@steveedwards5280 at that time I was riding a 58cm
Every time I make a tight turn on my Specialized Camber 29er, I think about how great it is to have big foot wheel clearance.
@@steveedwards5280 it was the comp carbon 2019...but the frame has new geometry since then. Clearance may be different.
Maybe a dropper post would work well with that wider diameter 🤔
Not a bad idea
When designing I preferred the aesthetic of the larger diameter seat tube in proportion to the other tube sizes I spec'd. Nothing more complicated behind the decision.
What's the weight?
Wait, the specs in their web says PF 30 BB 🤔
what happened to the discs?
Haha, sharp eye. They were toast on the demo model, but we got them replaced with fresh Ultegra pads and rotors.
@@TheBikeSauce using sram stuff on shimano based bikes are not pc. people WILL be offend.
Not sure who would be offended by this, but it’s fully Shimano nonetheless
@@TheBikeSauce orthodox people, so thank you in the name of the shimano church
. the world is back in balance by now.
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What bar tape do you use? Can you recommend the most supple bar tape you have used? :)
Haha I usually use standard cork cinelli. Sometimes I’ll put a strip down under the main wrap for more comfort. I recently tried supacaz just to see what the fuss is about. It’s actually really nice. Super sticky and comes with alloy plugs. Not super padded, but I like it
@@TheBikeSauce Thanks!
Supacaz Super Sticky Kush. Supple and grippy even when wet.
are titanium bikes not paintable? I've always wondered why all titanium bikes look all the same no paint
They’re paintable. People leave them raw because titanium isn’t subject to corrosion or oxidation.
@@TheBikeSauce if i would be asked i would like to have it painted because it's cooooool
Haha sure that’s fine too. I think leaving it raw is a mark of exclusivity since it’s not possible on other frame materials
@@TheBikeSauce
Many years ago, Litespeed offered the Saber frame painted from the factory. The only one I’ve ever seen was in red. Beautiful bike.
Not all bare Ti bikes look alike. Some sandblast the frame. Other vapor blast for a somewhat shiny frame. Others are brush finished which is easy to maintain. I use a piece of aircraft leading edge tape on the bottom of the down tube and chain stays to dampen the sound of stones dinking the frame.
Got to say, integrated headsets still don’t look right. Give me a Chris King headset any day of the week.
i want one now lol
Haha, by all means please do!
WHY no proper fender mounts?
Design intent I think. It's a road cyclist's gravel bike I'd say.
I wanted the bike to be super clean. There are fender mounts on the front fork and you can use clip ons for the rear.
Black heart ti
Black Sheep ti
Black Cat ti
If all that marketing jargon doesn't sell the bike I don't know what will.
perhaps the shiny finish?
I’m just not going to say anything about the welding...
Ha, they look pretty to me.
Feel free to add any specific feedback. We're proud of the quality and stand by the frame, fork, and seatpost with a lifetime warranty against manufacturing defects.
Interestinnnnnng.
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If they're made in Taiwan, why are they priced as if they're being made in the United States? They must be clearing $2K on each frame they sell.
Why would a bike manufacturer put “No Love For Haters” on their frame? 🤦♂️ Leave that to the individual rider and their choice of stickers.
I think it’s a nice sentiment. You could put your own sticker over it though
Surly put "Fatties Fit Fine" on their frames, which I always thought meant Surly bikes were made for fat people lol. I would be so embarrassed to ride one of their bikes.
It’s really not that big of a deal
It's a nod to why I started the company, that the mainstream industry kept telling me my bike was never light, aero, or stiff enough year after year. At the end of the day I wanted a beautiful bike that would last and allow me to ride the majority of the terrain in my area. Choose the bike you love and nothing else matters.
Haters gonna use stickers
The little heart on the rear brake stay is enough to make me vomit and not want want the bike.