Unfair Play: Sharron Davies Talks About the Battle for Women’s Sport
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- UNFAIR PLAY: The battle for women's sport and against attempts to silence its champions
Recorded on Wednesday 5th July, in-person in Central London and also live-streamed online
Of all the issues thrown up by the rise of gender ideology and the push for trans-inclusivity, safety and fairness in women’s sport is probably the one that has most grabbed mainstream public attention. And yet, too often, debate has been shut down and those who raise questions have been de-legitimised and accused of ‘transphobia’.
One of the most impressively stalwart campaigners, working to keep the debate open, is British Olympic swimmer Sharron Davies MBE. Sharron is a legendary British Olympian, the UK’s top female swimmer throughout the 80s. In 1980, she won Olympic Silver (losing out only to a drugs cheat). She has since become a leading BBC sports pundit.
The Free Speech Union is therefore delighted to host the official launch of Sharron’s new book, Unfair Play: The Battle for Women's Sport, written with award-winning sports correspondent Craig Lord.
About the book
Sharron Davies is no stranger to battling the routine sexism of the sporting world. She missed out on Olympic Gold because of blatant doping among East German athletes in the 1980s and has never received justice. Now, biological males are being allowed to compete directly against women under the guise of trans ‘self- ID’, a development that could destroy the integrity of female sport. This callous indifference towards women in sport, argue Sharron and journalist Craig Lord, is merely the latest stage in a decades-long history of sexism on the part of sport’s higher-ups.
Unfair Play: The battle for women's sport provides the facts, science and arguments that will help women in sport get the justice they deserve.
We brought together a superb panel to discuss the issues with Sharron:
Dr Emma Hilton is a prize-winning development biologist who has advised various governing bodies on transgender policy in sport including World Rugby. She is a director of Sex Matters, a UK-based human rights group that campaigns for clarity on the (UK) protected characteristic of sex in law and in institutions. Her current research activity is an academic scoping review of transgender athlete policies of the most popular UK sports.
Cathy Devine is an independent researcher and expert in sport policy, equality and human rights for girls and women. She has published widely in this area over the last 15 years. In the last two years she has advised a number of international and UK sport organisations (often confidentially) on transgender inclusion policies that do not compromise equal sporting opportunities for girls and women. She worked for 23 years as a Senior Lecturer at the University of Cumbria, UK, and is an erstwhile Secretary of the British Philosophy of Sport Association.
In the chair was Dr Jan Macvarish. Jan is Education and Events Director of the Free Speech Union. Before joining the staff of the FSU, she worked as an academic sociologist, studying parenting, family life, intimacy and reproductive health.
We desperately need this conversation in America.
@@marinae7928 I’m no longer in academia. Otherwise I would bring this forward at my high school. Which was performing arts, which is what all of this is…. Pure performative art in a “main character” culture. @marinae7928, are you in a position to host a lecture? I think your suggestion was spot on.
@@marinae7928Hear! Hear!
And Canada as well, as PM Pierre Trudeau recently praised a male weightlifter for winning in the Women's division.
Thank God for Sharon and Craig ❤❤ Sharon particularly for her bravery in athletics and for championing biology and truth ❤❤
I can’t believe this is even a conversation, it’s absolutely pathetic. Well done guys for getting this out there and keep going.
Well done GALS!
Ladies..
low speech skill: they turn off their brains at any attack, no matter how trivial
Sharron is so clued up and firm in her resolve! Respect to DNA coded women xxx
Absolutely wonderful discussion and about the bloody time!
Bloody excellent panel and chair. Thank you so much for this 💐
Sharron Davies talks a lot of sense in this discussion. I also recommend her book on this issue.
Sharron I bought your boon in Audible after I heard you with the lads in Triggenometry . Congraulations and more power to you.
Wonderful discussion, with some very good questions. It could have gone on for a lot longer🙂. I just ordered the book.
Thank you once again to the free speech union for another wonderful common sense presentation> Also thank you to sharron, the panel & the organisers for your integrity & care for the future of women's sports. God bless.
Sharon Davis is brilliant, I'm a 62 yr old woman who played competitive sport in England till my major back injury at the age of 32. I still love sport, I have life long female friends because of sport, and this transgender movement is not going to take that away from my nieces.
Brilliant!
I need a shareable “short” of Sharron speaking about Q angles!!!
I am now in love with Sharon Davies ❤.... how refreshing is this fair free speech and open discussion... inviting of debate... fantastic xxx
Thank you!! More conversations like these please:)
i'm not missing the irony of watching this presentation on the day that a biological man was made 'miss' netherlands!! *shakes head* ..... great work! 👍
Wonderful conversation
It all sounds like common sense. I suppose it's not that common these days. Perhaps the UK does need a bill of rights after all.
Wish Sharron Davies [MBE Should be OBE] had her own CZcams channel?
You just got yourself a new subscriber to funding your work. 👍
What and informative lively discussion. Thank you to all those who fight the fight to keep women's sports women! (of course biological women)
You can have as many women sitting on as many boards as you like. In most cases it's women that are waving these detrimental policies through.
Who?
Just ordered Sharron's book. Can't wait to read the truth. And isn't it time to give her the gold medal she was cheated out of by dopers? ✊
Her opponent tried to give up her gold, after East Germany had broken up. She told them to give it to the rightful winner, but the IOC told her to keep it.
Excellent talk! Excellent panel!!!!
INCLUSSIVITY why do we need that a basketball team would not want someone who can't dribble make a basket they want to force women's teams to accept trans on their teams why not force trans men in men's team
Because 'trans men' means those born with female bodies who think they are men. With female bodies they will struggle to compete with those born male.
So long as a large number of women clap along with this shit, it will continue. Happily, I think the tide is beginning to turn on this.
If sex doesnt exist how do people get born? Is this the end of humanity?
Sharron Davis is smoking hot
it's about time the sports government body's did something about the men entering a woman's event
Why is a humanist responsible for any IOC policy, and especially this this one, which is a question of biology, not "humanism"? The problem isn't the humanities (which are useless/hopeless/laughable), it is the IOC, who selected someone who they knew would screw real women over.
I just checked, the first 3 winners of the women’s competition were men. How wrong.
what do we know about the upcoming soccer world cup so far?
@@Greylobster i know about that and yes quinn's female (the wikipedia article says eligibility still makes sense because of "assigned sex at birth" for some reason the word "female" has been removed). im specifically wondering if we know of any male players
@@LightSpell28 Barbra Banda playing for Zambia. Same condition as Semenya I believe. He wasn't allowed to play in the African Cup but he is allowed to play in the World Cup this summer.
WHY is there a battle, women not walking away and we have chinless officials allowing themelves to be dominated and dictated to.
I totally agree on everything Sharron Davies says, just not on the primary school sports day thing. I've always done mixed PE in primary school, including sports days, and that was 35 years ago. Nobody was even thinking about separating boys and girls. Before puberty it doesn't make much of a difference, especially when it comes to sports that nobody really is trained in. Boy were often better at running because they played football every day and just were in much better shape. Not because they were boys. Also, most sports were technical, and so it didn't really matter whether you are an untrained boy or an untrained girl. I always 'won' high jump as a girl because I was tall, skinny and flexible. Not 'fair' to the my shorter, less skinny classmates. But that was just how it worked. We never looked at sex difference, or any other difference for that matter. I also didn't 'win' anything, like a scolarship or even a medal, so really nobody cared. I don't understand how a parent can get so worked up about her daughter not winning at 11 years old, at a school sports day that doesn't mean anything. Lady, get over yourself.
And even in secondary school we always had mixed PE, up until 18 years old. Nobody ever even thought about seperating boys and girl. Of course boys were often better, but it didn't matter. There was nothing competitive to it. And if we were playing teams, they were always mixed. Nobody cared.
Of course in competitive sports for adults there should be categories, but I think the case of the complaining parents of a primary school student doesn't make the case stronger. It should be possible for primary school children to play sports together, even if it gets somewhat competitive once a year. Who cares who 'wins' on sports day. Many kids, boys and girls, hate the day anyway because they suck at everything sports.
I liked it, though I sucked at most sports. I loved not having to be in class, and rooting for my more athletic friends.
Equal opportunities for women and girls in sport (actually special treatment for women and girls in sport) is the quintessential example of the type of 'all must have prizes' attitude that is now coming back to haunt those who have championed it for decades at the expense of superior athletes.
Hence, when Davies shakes her head in disbelief at 13:26 to the question - how did this happen - she ignores the very obvious answer: because, she and others like her, have campaigned for years for politicise sport from a social justice perspective and insert ideologues into all governing bodies etc. And so now that that core ideology has changed somewhat those ideologues are now pumping out somewhat changed claptrap instead of Davies' preferred version. A version - men bad - she then spews out for the next 5 minutes. Oh well, live by the sword
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Are these men allowed in the WNBA?
Why do some males hate Women so much???
I'm no psychologist but I'm going to hazard a guess that when it comes to dating women tend to be pickier than men and so men face on the whole more rejection than women. As men we're not historically encouraged to be in touch with our feelings, we're brought up in a society where we're led to believe we're better than women and we don't as a whole deal well with rejection. For some they can't really cope with that so project their negative feelings onto women and blame them for our own shortcomings.
Clearly plenty women do face rejection from men, I'm also restricting this observation to the heterosexual dating pool but given men are meant to chase the girl it can build a reservoir of negative feelings.
Plus I'd add the amount of times we don't seem to be able to comprehend the way the other sex thinks, have any real understanding of each others experience leads to a mindset that the opposite sex is some unknowable creature and if other aspects of your live aren't going well and you feel unfulfilled it's often easier to blame any number of external factors justified or not and there is the beginning of something.
I suspect this very rough and surface hypothesis barely scratches the surface but I think it might contain the seed of something.
they don put out ez
@@Malky5279 WOMEN are pickier???!!! Many men would rather date the model with zero personality, than the ugly girl with the great personality! I am not ugly at all, but I see what the men run after the most.
How many trans women are there playing sport.
No idea but good for them as long as they play in their sex category - with other men.
Especially since there is a transgendered ‘woman’ on the Canadian national soccer team playing in the FIFA World Cup right now.
The player is female bodied, playing on a female team. I have no problem with that. Why do you?
@@yycleptShe is female. That's why it is appropriate that she play on a women's football team.
@@richardwayne809 NO. HE. ISN'T.
@@yyclept NO. HE. ISN'T.
What a beautiful lady Sharon is xxxxx
Sharron Davies is a fox.
Just vote Republican
theyll put their foot down after bending over democrat style
Why is sex discrimination permissible when it is good for women but banned when it is good for men?
Lea Thomas swims in Uni Penn, I think.
Title IX is the law - "No person in the US shall, on the basis of sex, be denied participation in .... any educational program or activity ..".
So on what legal basis can men be excluded from participating because the men are the wrong sex?
Because a man being excluded from WOMEN'S swimming comps, is different from a man being excluded from ANY swimming comp.
Same as Mike Tyson being excluded from ANY/ALL boxing comps, would violate his rights... But Tyson being excluded from BANTAM WEIGHT boxing comps (or WOMEN'S comps) is NOT violating Tyson's rights.
In fact, if Tyson (at full weight) WAS allowed in a bantam-weight fight, HE would be violating the rights of those who DID adhere to the weight restriction, that Tyson DOESN'T adhere to...
Same way that a man like Thomas, being allowed into a FEMALE swim comp, despite FAILING the physical criteria (by being NOT FEMALE...) is violating the rights of EVERY SINGLE WOMAN in the comp...
Title IX was explicitly made to ALLOW entrance criteria, which EXCLUDES some athletes- Specifically, title IX was initiated, explicitly to allow FEMALE athletes to exclude MALES from women's sports (for the same reason boxing has classes like 'bantam weight')
"Lia" Thomas has FULL ACCESS to the men's swimming comp, just like EVERY OTHER MAN.
The idea that title IX somehow PREVENTS women from excluding men from women's sport, makes about as much sense as saying "the first amendment PREVENTS free speech", or "2nd amendment PREVENTS you ever having a right to bear arms"...