Does Wizard101 Have An Elitism Problem?
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2023
- Answering the question of whether wizard101 has an elitism problem o:
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Wanted to make this based on a recent event that caught my attention. What do yall think?
im on the subreddit almost everyday and it is a very common thing for people to be elitist in the comment sections. it is like no matter how much the moderators tell people to not be like this, there are ALWAYS people who still do it. this will give wizard101 a bad face for people who are just enjoying the game and might deter some who don't want to deal with such behavior within the community. i wish people could just take a moment to think that it is not all that serious before they comment.
@@Eric007 That doesn't even come close to justifying the behavior exhibited, though. Pet training is difficult and tedious, and it took me over a decade of playing before I actually made my pets because of that.
@@Eric007 having a good pet/gear/deck setup makes the game a whole lot easier but i feel like you don't need all that to enjoy the game at a base level. if you have fun working through battles and the storyline at your own pace, why should it be scrutinized?
you are literally apart of the said problem that u highlighted
We are older (player base) and let’s be honest we have definitely gotten more selfish with age meaning we are less likely to help others
As an old player from 2010, I’ve seen the culture shift DRASTICALLY. I can 100% say that elitists do exist and I used to be one. I was obsessed with the grind and used to laugh at crap stats while secretly hoping and praying I’d be able to get the next stats that were equal to or better than the next guy. As I grew up, so did my mentality. People back then were a lot kinder than people are now. Do I want the best gear, hell yea but I also understand that most people like me are all grown up now. We don’t have time time and probably don’t want to spend the money to get all that stuff since life is a thing. I think people just have to have a wake up call for them to realize that being mean on a game isn’t worth it. I find myself enjoying when someone asks for help, or had a question. That brings me more joy now than having the best gear to show off. I feel bad for the OP, and I agree that I am impressed that he beat the game with low stats. That’s WAY more impressive because I feel like I was getting my ass kicked with 63% at the time and 180 dmg. So if he got through it, i’m confident he’s a better player than most of us
@keplerbeerone of the comments of all time
I wish more people helped others in game. I remember when I needed help with Droors. For three days I was going around commons or at that time Facebook, asking if someone can just help me for a minute.
Nobody wanted to help, all I got was "I did it solo, just get good."
@keplerbeer….. you just proved sauces point with this comment bro 😅😭
@keplerbeer The whole point of a game is to have fun tho? Not everyone has the time to max out characters, if someone has crap stats, that doesn’t really give us reason to dump on someone. I think providing constructive criticism is the only way about it, Half the max gear are released are thru packs and require combinations from multiple end world dungeons/arcs/raids that aren’t really in databases unless you specifically google them. I didn’t know at ALL that the best decks in the game were from a pack until a small CZcamsr pointed them out.
Or he wasted his time 😂 failing a bunch of times when he couldve farmed some better gear and beat the game faster
Elitism in this game is a thing
I came across a max storm with 149 dmg and 15 pierce stating “not bad kid” when a life wiz had hit for big dmg
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he would shit himself if he saw my 190 dmg 40 pierce life wiz
Those idiots were downvoting me for literally helping him out and telling people it’s fine to use bazaar gear till the end gear
I got darkmoor gear with 1 piece of waterworks. Bazaar gear works just as fine
@@Suremate...That is not true. Well, more like it depedns on your level as well as school. Fire and storm need damage to compensate for their lack of accuracy and bazaar gear doesnt cut it. Not to mention in higher level worlds you need pierce and resist.
@@sabercat5490 my balance, storm, and ice are getting through the game just fine so it works for me
Using bazaar gear only is such a dumb way to play the game I'm sorry
@@hueningbahibitchthere is nothing wrong with just using bazaar gear
Reminds me of when I was really happy to get the One in a Million badge back when that was new, and I got a bunch of comments downplaying and insulting me for being happy about it. One that sticks out, though relatively tame, was "You're ONE of the millions of people who have that badge."
I am here once again to say “Sauce’s talent of making any video over 8 minutes is underrated”
Please explain to me how this video goes over 8 minutes
Holy cow thank you for addressing this problem. Some people just want to play for fun.
I feel like having bad stats back in the days wasn't a huge deal for some people because they also weren't good at the game either. I think it's just the gaming generation becoming more tryhard and toxic. It's nice to see people improving though at the games but it's unfortunate to see the way that it's turning them.
@@YuhPaul right but my main point is that were starting to see more of it I'm not saying their aren't any but it is increasing due to people just getting better at the game. if somebody is not good at a game the (better player) should give the new player advice on how to improve instead of being toxic....
crazy how i've been in the p101 subreddit and as far as ik they're more mature than some of these wiz reddit children lmao
My first wizard was a balance. I soloed the vast majority of the game with that wizard but let me tell you, it was a struggle. First of all, it was the wizard I learned the game on, so I started with a skewed idea of how spells worked because balance from the start is LEAGUES different from every other school in the game. To add to that, balance is one of the 3 hardest schools to solo, only really better than storm and fire because of their squishy nature. I remember I was stuck in Celestia for years because I had never properly learned how to put together a deck and really didn't know what gear I needed for what, so I was having problems just fighting regular mon fights in stormriven. I found another (originally nice wizard) who had a decent grasp on what they were doing, but the moment I expressed that I needed help, he called me a loser and, not just unfriendly me, but put me on his ignored list. That was my first real interaction with an "elitist" in the game, and it severely scared my concept of how teams worked in the game, so I spent about a year force training myself to the concept on how to lit together a deck, what spells are good for what, which stats you need for what roles, or what you should focus as a solo, and how to actually be good at the game. Since then I have had MANY people call me one of the best players they have seen, and some people have even told me I could easily speed run the game. I don't agree with that; that is to say, I believe that there are many people who are better than me and I probably couldn't speed run anything but wizard city, but I have found my interactions once I became a "top player" were suddenly on a surprise note that I wasn't toxic, as though everyone expected me to be akin to what I experienced before.
This is all to say, I know what a toxic player can be like from mild to major, and when someone sees you as good at the game, they come to expect you will fall on that spectrum somewhere, enough so that many don't want to ask for help anymore, but being in that "top group", anyone who could claim themselves at elitist are usually the first to offer help, and actually respect others, while those who actually claim themselves as the elites, seem to fall apart quickly when left on their own. The game is toxic, yes, but that was created because a small number was insecure that someone was better then them, so they started projecting themselves above everyone they felt was worse than them rather than being welcoming to their fellow players, and that select few influence many to despise anyone who cares in any way about their playstyle, creating the illusion that everyone at the top is part of some "elite group" that is just better than everyone else, but that just isn't true.
I know this was a long comment, but it felt necessary, because as was said in the video, people don't speak out enough to those who put "weak player" down, but those weakling players might eventually be your best players, so how can you claim to be better than them when they haven't even gotten a chance to try? That is how the game gained the "elitist" tag, and as long as the toxicity marinates, it will become more and more true. I honestly care about this game, but I keep seeing its community get ripped apart because "you are too weak," and "you can't put together a deck," all for what? What is achieved by it? It doesn't make you any better to put someone down, it just destroys the game. If someone doesn't know what they are doing and you do, teach them, or give then an opportunity to learn, don't leave them in the dark to fail and leave.
Elitism def exists however at least in my case when I give someone advice it’s not because I’m trying to be arrogant but instead I just hate teammates who make a run or fight longer simply because they didn’t bother to at least get decent bazaar gear or look up a major boss’s cheats. It’s gotten to the point that from now on when I quest I make 2 accounts at the same time and boost them together because I’m sick of getting bad teammates. Also I’ve given up on giving people advice in this game as lately they all just take it the wrong way and call me “toxic” even when I say something as simple as “lmk if you ever want to hatch w me” or “there’s better gear in the bazaar”, the toxicity honestly goes both ways.
It riles me up so much when people don't look up cheats, I'm always paranoid about being a liability and feel so bad holding other players back, why don't people just ask before if there are cheats before they run in?
@@funkyfranx I do the same, a lot of them will say stuff like “well I just play casually” or “I don’t take the game that serious” while at the same time wasting the time of other players and sometimes even ruining the run for them. Darkmoor to this day has people who have 0 clue of what there doing and have some of the most atrocious stats I’ve ever laid eyes on and often times they mess something up or don’t do anything at all
People are simply rude af.
I also love when ppl imply that just bc you have good or decent stats, you spend 24/7 on the game. Even if somebody did play wiz 24/7, it's their life and their time. And two... it often doesn't take *that* long to get decent stats. I'm not talking perfect, but good enough. Some ppl also get lucky
Bro I remember the days when I had no idea how to play this game. Probably the best times of my life on this game as well. I finally learned how to get good gear at Tartarus when the level cap had just turned 100. I've been playing this game since a year after launch off and on.
Very well said and needed to be said! Thank you! Right on
I started playing in about 2012 and my first character was a myth wizard. I would overfill my deck and I’d want to use all my spells and then I remember I got to Azteca with no astral school bc I didn’t know it existed haha. I had so much fun!
I remember when i was young my first time playing the game all i cared about was looking cool. I had a level 86 death with pretty much nothing for stats, and honestly hearing you say you were like that too makes me feel so much better about it
I’m friends with the level 1 guy and even helped him quest a bit, that’s wild to see him mentioned in your video
how hard is it for people to let others just. play the game.
This game has had stat elitism for years. Its stupid af
I am a 2009 player, i've been playing just shy of ogs- unless you consider that og lol, anyways, most of the people i help, unless *their* the asshole? i am brutally honest with them. I always tell them "sure your stats suck. If you want a challange, keep your stats and keep on going. If you want better gear, i'll help you get the gear, grind it out- if you want help on the quest line. I'm not a fan of your stats, but i am not your character, I am my character and you control whats happening. So if you're seeking help- then tell me what you want and i'll give my honest answer"
Sadly, this is a thing that exists in any game, even single player games. Gamers are naturally competitive, and "big number good". Just look at games like WoW for an example. I don't think that behavior is inherently bad, but there's no reason anyone needs to bully over fictional numbers. I always love seeing new players achieving things and I like to encourage them to keep going and celebrate with them. I think the people who are toxic about it simply lack confidence anywhere else in their life. Perhaps that post got more attention than they believe it deserved, and so they took it into their own hands to try and take that away from them. That's just speculation of course, but people really need to relax a bit more.
I’m a casual. Love ur videos even tho I have no idea what’s going on usually. I’m like a lvl 70 myth bro
Being someone who has played the game on and off since basically release I will happily say I am not max level, I will not pvp and will not raid. All for different reasons some community driven some not but Im happy with that choice. To speak to the elitism its sad because to say there hasn't been a dramatic cultural shift towards elitism would be dishonest. Its truly sad because of how little I feel the casual community as a whole truly care about your wiz accomplishments knowing that time investment not skill is all that it takes to get them. Also to the point of there being guilt in both sides. The fact that the casual community points out time investment and lack of skill is a rebuttal to elitism. If elitism didn't exist there would be no reason to argue that point.
Honestly when i come back to hit max level every couple of years, gear is the least of my worries now. I got a karamelle hat as a lucky drop, mali robe, and paradox boots, and ill stick with it till i stop resubbing. I tried gear grinding against the 8 boss fight, and the droprates are just too bad for me to care. Questing is fun, stat grinding feels like a way to stretch pve content without actual effort.
I enjoyed wiz way more when I was a carefree kid focused on having fun with friends than I did as an adult playing to try and be the best wiz I could be
As a filthy elitist I am so proud we are raising awareness of peoples trash stats. I would want the same scrutiny to be applied if I were in a similar position so that in the long run I have an easier time questing throughout the game due to their correction. Lol xp
honestly i do agree with some what you're saying. People should advice max levels on how to improve their stats especially if its like bazaar gear and can make a big improvement
This is like when people tell fat people they're fat. These players probably know their stats are bad, but you telling them so in such a toxic way just makes them not want to play. Doesn't actually do anything productive. If someone has a problem with another player's stats, they can offer to help them farm to improve them.
@@AwesomeTheSauce i for sure remember being frustrated in team up cuz there is people in there with terrible, terrible gear that insist on griefing the entire 4 man group in very tedious content by insisting on hitting and using up all the feints when someone who takes the time to min max their damage on the wiz is much more suited. either kills the entire run where everyone leaves or turns a 5 min fight into a 30 min one. Its usually the people who put in the least effort on their wizs that respect other peoples time the least.
There's ways to help people who don't know what they're doing without being condescending tho
Not everyone wants an easy experience though, I’d argue many pve-exclusive players would probably prefer more of a challenge as most of wiz is just blade into aoe
It's the losers that hang out in the commons talking, that is 90% of toxicity in wizard101.
The commons ? Really? Majority of the time i hear people talking about irl gossip or drama in the commons and ofcourse the occational begger who wants membership or crowns.
@@sabercat5490 yes
Guilds/Raids are one of the most elitist thing sometimes (not always)
@Transcendent_774disagree unless guilds have overpowered stuff that one shot all enemies
I think the biggest culture shift is that this game use to be an MMO lol, back when you heavily needed a group of people to run quests and basic dungeons to get thru the game except the besides the end game bosses. Now everyone wants to claim king of the castle cuz they soloed thru everything. The game is only now pushing for more group efforts, and it’s annoying the elitists because they have to tolerate players of ALL types. What I don’t get are players that trash on people who run these dungeons to get better stats lmaoo
I got bullied into paying membership on free month cause Mountain Olympus gear is "META", even I told them I don't have sub and I am being casual streamer on twitch that play game for fun and not min maxing at all . . . they told me to "DO IT!!!" cause I am far as level 35 fire wizard and even told me to not go secondary with death cause it is "META", told me if I continue going none meta, I am somehow ruin everyone's experiance, that is why I am planning to no resub to this game anymore, every game is tained by min max culture as whole, with woke journlist attacking elden ring for not having easy mode only enforce gatekeeping mentality in many games now.
They’re making a mistake with putting so much effort in the raids that could otherwise go toward furthering story content as raids are too niche
U should've put ur deaths' stats next to that guy's picture
no lmaooooo
Where do you get that robe I’ve been looking for it but somehow says unavailable😮💨
I solo quest in this game because i hate 90% of the people i meet when i skip over gear sets
Bro whenever your a storm and another storm has more damage than you they absolutely have 0 chill.
there are certain battles (fellspawn) ive never even attempted because i feel like no one is gonna wanna help me learn the strat
You kinda have to look up cheats ahead of time for hard fights unfortunately
@@ValToadstool i do; but i know some fights are beaten with very specific strategies so i feel like im walking in blind even with knowing cheats
i did read the comments and actually saw the person who original made the post being toxic back aswell as kind of nagging them on and just being as toxic as they were to him back so idk
Day 6 of commenting to boost the algorithm.
Also It’s a small group that’s very vocal because if you’re an elitist in this game you play it more and care more than your average person and are more likely to say something compared to someone who doesn’t care they will just not say anything and you won’t notice them as much. (Hope that made sense)
4:24 i would say for me this is true i log in Do a quick gardening on couch potatoes and log off
I've experienced brand new players and those players that yell at you if you don't do their specific battle plan. People forget that characters are human and can be quite mean
THE SAUCE!!!!
Oh totally agree. I’ve played this game for years and nothing was worse than being ridiculed because of stats. Not everyone plays for that, and it’s supposed to be fun. Sure, I appreciated help in improving my stats when I asked, but more than a few times, especially in dungeons people were mean and condescending over stats! Why?
As a pve player I will say that elitism is seen a lot with the team ups and trying to find help for difficult things to solo or duo. If you do not have the best gear for that level and definitely if there is not a max wizard when you team up, it is a 50% chance maybe even higher that people will leave immediately. Not only this there has been a rise in players teaming up to just mess around with players so you'll be either one man short or even at that point going in 3 v 5. Hardcore grinders with new wizards do not want to do anything without a max wizard and now we have max/high level wizards joining in to just mess with people and I really feel that the report system is useless in wiz when it comes to team up. At the end of the day the person just wanting to mess around does not care and will afk in the boss and dungeon so when you leave you will have the penalty and not them and finding players of similar level think its a waste of time to play the game with wizards of their level. I am not sure what the right answer would be to help with this because at some point are the hardcore grinders wrong for wanting to speed quest no and there are still people who genuinely help but I personally have just seen a rise of more elitist people in team up to just mess with people and just basically degrade lower level wizards. Just wanted to bring this to light that pve also may need a look at when it comes to team up.
I think that banter is fine, it brings flavor with people being competitive , but i see how when players are targeting other players for gear, especially if its just very toxic comments can be problematic. Friendly competition and community is the best part of wiz - the elites forget we all started at wizard city >:) together
So funny this video pops up when I just got made fun of for having 90 damage at level 125 ice wizard
I can't play the game for more then 5 minutes without someone calling my stats trash or preparing a lecture or "help" getting better gear.
I don't even know how to do raids!
i mean those stats were pretty bad... but yeah no reason to get crazy
i suppose that is what happens when a video game is too end-game focused
I had better stats at level 60 than him at max😂
yes... Elitism does exist for sure
ANY mmos … and I mean ANY… once people get to a high enough level/rank…. There’s ALWAYS gonna be someone who feels and acts like that.
Yes.
I'll probably type more than I need to but I have some opinions on this. Obviously elitism is a thing in any game, especially one designed like Wiz. I've been back for just over a month now and I actually have encountered someone, just one person, flame me for not having the best min/max gear. His argument, childish as it was, was that he had multiple maxes and I couldn't know how to play since my IGN wasn't consistent with my school (I have Ice in my name as a Storm because I made the account as an 11 year old and haven't forked over the crowns yet for a name change). So while elitism is obviously present in PvE (I personally can't weigh in on PvP), I'd say it's very rare and a small portion of the community. As you said, and I've experienced, most of the player-base has a large amount of patience, and are willing to help someone through giving advice or being the hitter in a boss fight for example.
At face value, the guy's happy post about hitting max was fine, but it's obvious that players that take the time to browse the Wiz subreddit probably play the game more than casuals, and in every batch, you're going to have a few bad apples (especially with the anonymity Reddit also provides). Constructive criticism is fine, especially first seeing his stats, it's human nature to want to help someone, but being condescending is where you split the helpers from the assholes. Where my issue with the poster was is that someone simply recommended buying Cabalist gear from the Bazaar, and the only thing he said is that he would consider it. This makes me question what his idea of fun gameplay in Wiz is. He has the gold, and unlike the elitists that use time and money, all he has to do is fork out that bit of gold to get incredibly better stats. Most people in Wiz that play PvE play to have the best stats. I'm not even saying min/max best stats like Raid robes, but most Prime wizard's want to get the endgame gear, it's practical. So him not wanting to increase his stats and getting upset at basically the entire subreddit for this advice seems weird, and I don't think it's wrong to point him out for that. Also, that screenshot you showed of him making fun of people for playing Wiz 24/7 (on a Wiz subreddit no less??😂) shows his nature and demeanor. At the end of the day the best way to get through the story as a solo wizard is through Team-Up. And reasonably, I think most Level 160 players, casual or not, would be a bit annoyed to keep getting someone with lazily poor stats so deep in the game. That's just my take though.
Wizard101 always has an elitism problem, no one is allowed to duel school at low level until max level, You are forced to farm Mount Olympus and Waterworks on all characters cause it's the meta and you don't get them, you get made fun of, people will bug you into stop leveling and farm those dungeons, or you get bullied off from grouping in dungeons cause you are not using meta deck and gear to be pro efficient to speed run the old content, it is stupid as freak, mate!
Yes, the plain answer is yes.
As someone who plays osrs nowadays, I'm glad that the community really scoffs at efficiency and doing all the sweatiest techs. Cause at the end of the day none of us are cool for playing our decades old videogames optimally. That is just the truth lol.
It's the internet y'know, any fanbase with thousands of members is going to have dickheads, I remember doing Catacombs and having a few people dump on me for my shit pet, just gotta roll your eyes and move on
"filthy casual" and you talk about disrespect 😂😂😂
Hol Up did he just call us all filthy casuals. The disrespect.
Sauce , The guy with the level 1 doesn’t seem legit. I could be wrong, but 77k xp to level 80ish? Doesn’t sound right. Also if he’s a level one there’s no way he has 150 flat resist to any school. If level locking makes me lose out on that much xp i’ll never use it
"I feel like there's judgement on both ends of the island"
There is most definitely WORST judgment on one end of that island and we all know it's not the folks who aren't min/maxing every stat.
Genuinely cannot stand Wiz elitists. No, I don't care that if I hatched one more time I would get 2 more damage. No, I don't care that if I went through some of the most silly and long arsed battles in the game just to get MAYBE 3 extra damage. No, I don't care that YOU think I need to get this gear in this order especially when YOU are a minority and most people actually do not give a rass what gear they have on at any given moment.
Also I think it comes from jealously that there are people who do not stress about this game at all and are doing just fine when min/maxers are pulling hair out when a pet fails and they haven't even left Wiz City yet on their newest Wiz cuz they're worried about "perfection".
Ppl with trash stats disgust me
Elitism is just a thing in gaming in general, but In mmorpgs it's a lot worse than in other types of games.
A lot of people play mmorppgs to show off and they spend way too much time playing this one game, and so thats where the elitism comes from. It's weird, it's annoying, but I've seen it in wizard101, and in other mmos too. World of warcraft is even worse when it comes to this.
Games like guild wars2 have less elitism because of the structure of their mmorpg, where they have horizontal progression, instead of the usual mmorpg gear treadmill, that wizard101 also has.
didn't you spend a TON of real life money for your gear? not starting anything but doesn't PVP people gamble on a LOT of gear for godly stats? i am no pvp but would you get those types of stats if you don't spend a ton of money on gear?
also i give props to this dude going through the entire game with those stats and brave enough to post it online. buuut considering his reaction, i think it was just someone that has the better gear and did random gear on him. i don't judge on people having low end gear on a high level wizard since i don't grind as much as a Ice wizard. if people don't like the grind, that is fine.
i've for sure spent tons of money for gear and pets to get the best stats on this game but me doing that doesn't give me any more worth than someone else that plays the game with worse stats. that was the point i was trying to make when showing my death storm setup
I think the OP that posted that definitely is lying in someway. Like you said he probably has better gear and just decided to switch for the attention.
OR he got carried and spammed team-up/henchmen.
I kinda expect people to have the bare minimal though when it comes to stats.
Lvl 30: Sky Iron Hasta at the very least.
Lvl 60: WW/Zigzag/Winterusk crafted.
Lvl 90: Alpha Omega Ring and blade of the felled titan.
Lvl 100: some manner of Darkmoor/Exalted gear. Athames, rings, and amulet are optional.
Lvl 160: Well you either have Aeon or you're currently farming it.
The point is no one wants to see a max storm with 50% damage on a team.
I bet it's those people that spent their life's saving to achieve what they are on the game lmaoo
All this stuff about respect and toxic behavior is utter bullshit, it all boils down to people minding they're own goddamn business, I feel like since COVID hit people have all become keyboard lions and forgot the feel of a fist hitting your face
Lmao, this video is exactly 8 minutes
It's amazing that people will have elitism with stats, without realizing that stats don't matter as much people think they do.
Stats can matter but ppl should only focus on/care about their own stats. If someone wants to be level 160 with 10% damage for their school, let them. There's no point in being rude or elitist about it. It's a game and some ppl just wanna have fun without caring about anything else.
This is exactly why I'm so thankful to wizard for making a way for casual playing
Wizard101 is an elitist game all stat based
My lvl 70 death has better stats lmao 😂
Much worse are sexism and ageism. How often do I see disparaging remarks about "just a kid' or 'wiz mom' (never wiz dad though) or 'wiz babe'. So, the elitism is really just an extension of the overall toxicity. There's a reason, people are not in guilds, because raids are the epitome of elite culture. I do not want to deal with that.
Yeah, Sad that there are players like that. I was playing a couple nights ago and went to the team up kiosk on my max lvl Death character and teamed up with a low lvl Death player to do Nastrond. They hadn't yet learned Scarecrow but did have Scarecrow TCs. I could have just put on a blade or two and enchant Deer Knight or Ship of Fools with an Epic and one shot all the enemies leading up to the final two fights but instead I put on one blade, enchanted Wraith with Epic, and used my remaining blades to buff the person I was helping. I would use Wraith to defeat the boss and regain all my health and the person I was helping would use Scarecrow to defeat the minions and regain their health. After we got to the final battle the main boss is a Death schooled boss and has a -90% shield that keeps coming back every time he is hit until his other three brothers are defeated. I used Scarecrow or Lulu, don't remember which, to defeat the three brothers and my next turn I put a death prism on the Death boss and the person I was helping hit with a death wand hit. Now 9 times out of 10 another wizard would raise immortal Hell about that. He immediately replied "Oops. Sorry about that" and I replied "Don't worry about it. I have good pierce". During that battle I asked him if he needed the Trogg. He asked " What's that?" I told him it was one of Zeke's critters that you have to find to get training points and he understood. He asked me where it was at and I told him I would show it to him after the battle and after the battle I showed it to him and he said that he couldn't pick it up so I told him he had to talk to Zeke first to get the quest to be able to collect them. I sent him a friend request and he accepted. After the battle I went to Zeke and had him port to me. He got the quest to find the Troggs and I helped him redo the dungeon again just to get the Trogg. I also gave him advice suggesting that he use a wand from a different school other than death so that he could use it to hit enemies with shields on or if he had any weakness on him to get rid of them without using his blades, death traps, or prisms. He was very grateful for the help and the advice and I felt good about myself for helping this young wizard and even helped him out for about another hour or so on his main quest line.
I had one Asian chick dog me every time she had the chance to remind me my ice stats were bad…….. few worlds later thank god novus exist and I can craft the gear because I got so tired about hearing about my stats
Never join a team up you aren't prepared to carry. I don't think it's elitism, I think it's awe that in a 15 yr old game there are still people who don't understand stats. Thanks for staying positive!
It may be a 15 year old game, but there's new players joining everyday, and new people blasting through the content and hitting max level with much less time invested than players who have been with us since the earliest days.
@keplerbeer Most casual players aren't seeking outside sources, though. They're just playing the game and learning what the game tells them. Most people don't want to have to look outside of a game to play a game.
@keplerbeer Yikes, you're being exactly who the people on that Reddit thread are. There's just no defense for that kind of toxicity and I don't think I'll be humoring your viewpoint any longer.
Of course, sauce would be on Reddit, he paid the Reddit moderators to filter out negative comments about him. And funny enough in his last video about reddit he said he would stop going on the wiz Reddit, now days later he's back. Not inconsistent at all.
That aside the message of this video was actually decent which is surprising. Maybe if you want less elitism you should start advocating for easier to play modes like a PVP without Roshambo and spellments
Honestly im tired of joining team up and having plagers with like 80 damage in my teams, so its good to tell them what they're doing is wrong.
Elitist is more like soloing all the time also the higher lvl and the max lvl players are like not helping ppl stats are like nothing with this
Yes, there is elitism in this game, but there is also the opposite problem. If you have hours to waste grinding out the same repeated storyline world after world then you have time to farm gear, craft gear, or farm gold to buy bazaar gear. You're telling me someone will grind out AZTECA and KHRYSALIS but WON'T grind gear? Even worse, these people will join teamups and expect to be carried. So its fine for them not to want to waste their own time, but they can waste 3 other people's time for dungeon after dungeon, forcing others to carry an anchor or be punished for rightfully leaving someone who is practically throwing. Its not elitism to give entitled players a dose of reality.
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his stats sucked bruh its not that deep, when you play with other people they dont want teamates with 40% of what it should be
I am absolutely an elitist in this game. Why are people in team-up using 1 pip hits every turn and wearing waterworks gear in novus LOL Like bro go awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
when you see someone hit level 100 with 30 damage you can only imagine the amount of people's time they wasted because of not having reasonable stats and they probably make terrible moves as well so yes elitism is needed People need to know they are wasting other people's time.
Having good gear imo just makes the game faster and you feel like you're not wasting as much time. It's so easy to just not die with or without good gear stats as long as you play your cards right if that is your thing. However not knowing cheats is annoying, use your phone if you have one, it takes like 2 seconds to google, and you don't have to alt-tab. As long as you're having fun everything is alright.
I am here once again to say “Sauce’s talent of making any video over 8 minutes is underrated”