"Mercedes are still lost" 😲💬 | Imola PREVIEW | Sky Sports F1 Podcast
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On this week's Sky Sports F1 Podcast, Matt Baker is joined by Karun Chandok and Harry Benjamin, who makes his commentary debut with the Sky Sports F1 team this weekend. They talk through Lando Norris' maiden win, Mercedes' ongoing woes, and what to expect from the Emilia Romagna Grand Prix in Imola.
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Time Stamps:
0:01 Introduction
3:26 Lando's first win
7:40 Cars improving & Red Bull domination
12:43 Departure of 2 mechanics & track, possibilities
18:55 On Lewis to Ferrari
21:00 Carlos Sainz and Max Verstappen (future)
27:05 Imola highlights
30:00 Letters Sky Sports
31:07 Lenticular postcard 🤓
This proper podcast setup is way better than before. Massive improvement in audio and with the hosts interacting with each other.
Talk about set up changes , Lewis
I am an old grey haired F1 fan and I know that any team’s multi season domination is usually followed by a period of relative “underperforming” …. by definition . No big deal, no big surprise.
The pendulum swing. Team domination comes & goes
Indeed, and Mercedes should be proud they maybe had the best run of all time.
Exactly, it’s so refreshing to see this take. RB fans can be the worst, they forget that Mercedes dominated from 2014 till 2020 whilst RB were literally nowhere, after their period of domination from 2010 till 2013. In 2026 it will change again, RB won’t be the front runner
Agree. Am of similar vintage. RBR rising the wave under current regs, just as MB did in previous phase Gen. From 2026, who knows what will transpire.
@@SjaakieT longest run with a freeze in regulations especially the freeze in engine development which gave them such a big advantage it took the rest of the grid 5 years to catch up, even then the budget CAP was the real killer for them as they simply could not out spend their competition and ensure no one could steel their engine talent.
McLaren wasted so much time switching to Honda, then to Renault. Not sure if they ever would have competed with Merc during their dominant period but they seemed to be in denial about their chassis until they had a competitive engine.
Can Sky Sports add timestamps to their videos please
1:00 BullShit 2:00 Bullshit 3:00 more BS …….
That requires Sky staff input, input costs £££'s, & for a freebie YT podcast coupled with Sky Sport's cost-savings & dwindling budget.....You'll be lucky pal....
@@yerrie1908 underrated comment 👏🏻
Just watch the whole video. Its only half an hour....lol
Yes please so I can skip Dame lewis...on and on..going to cry next year..used to like ferrari..not anymore
They did a really good job commentating during the race. So much better than the usual long standing Sky lead presenter
i love harry benjamin i heard him on f1 tv he was always objective and accurate.
2025 Toto joins Ferrari.
Nah... he can stay at his clueless team. May aswell start working on 26 car and hit the ground running.
Toto owns 1/3 if Merc F1, so never happening.
Totto SHOULD leave Merc, yes! But perhaps better leave F1 alltogether 😅
@@t8365absolutely sb working on that ‘26 car
@@t8365 Like in 2023 when people said they should just start on the 24 car and hit the ground running? 😂🫠
The Brit hype machine is running overtime again. All based on one race where safetycar luck and bad RB weekend was a fact. My god.
Looking at it from an engineering point of view, if your CFD and wind tunnel results don’t agree with what happens on track the the CFD and/ or wind tunnel results are wrong somewhere. Just reading Adrian Newley’s book and he had that problem and discovered an issue with the wind tunnel at Southampton University. Hamilton and Russel have tried different setups with only minor improvements. There has to be something wrong with their modelling….
Something definitely right with McLaren's settings. I have a suspicion their car was so poor at the beginning of last season because they focused so much on getting the data of the CFD modelling and wind tunnel data to match
So Harry thinks Max is going to willingly give up the 2025 title, hand it to Sainz , and go somewhere else… but won’t say where? 🤨
Christ, and I thought Crofty talked some nonsense. 🤣
Isn't that the default mode of every sky reporter.
@@alicekoppenol-pitti6257 I mean, I wouldn’t go that far - Karun, Ant, Jenson, Nico, Martin… they all talk sense, they also all have something in common.
@@mitchdaytonam3 I will concede to that.
I don't think anyone takes Max's talk of retirement seriously enough. He still likes winning of course; but he doesn't enjoy the racing, press, or politics in F1. He's not looking to relive his battles when the Merc was superior.
I don't see him taking a year off as Karun suggests, but maybe it depends on the offer. One year in F1 could fund multiple years in WEC, NLS, WRC, etc. I wonder if that's the kind of math he's doing.
@@tom.m the schedule is grueling. People tend to forget that Max has been living on a fixed schedule since he was 12 and. We all know he is not a fan of the amount of races and the FOM is still wanting to include more races. At one point he will say enough is enough and will concentrate fully on Verstappen Racing.
I feel like Ferrari feels different because Fred’s tenure has seen them make aggressive hiring decisions of people of various nationalities, instead of the old Ferrari way of filling the team overwhelmingly with Italians, boxing out dozens of prospects that could bring much needed technical skill to the team. Something’s been missing since Jean todt departed in 2007, as Domenicali’s tenure was a rollercoaster, and since 2012 they’ve been off the mark. I think Fred is the one that can bring them back to the glory a team like Ferrari should have.
Exactly Ferrari at their best when it is not run by Italians
@@r7coo😭😭🤣
As long as John Elkann doesn't interfere with anything, I'm much more hopeful for Ferrari but Elkann is not a racer, just a businessman and I believe he was desperate to sign Hamilton for marketability purposes. Either way, it'll be interesting to see how Lewis adapts to the Ferrari engine, environment and the car characteristics.
Harry lost all credibility by suggesting Max will leave RBR this year. Laughable
Im so happy about this, in Australia we cant get F1TV easy and I put the race on mute most of the time because of croftys yelling, especially the start, on live i change the audio to the pit channel to just hear engines
I enjoyed that podcast! Well done!
I spent 17 years working for F1, Many of them in the Brackley factory when it was Honda. Wonderful times. Very hard work, I was the Composites Project Manager. I so miss it, Best wishes to everyone in Brackley. I did briefly join Mercedes Engines ... and was the 11th F1 buyer to leave them in 12 months. Most dreadful experience of my life
pressure?
@@bsrbck Yes, because its true, want to see my CV?
@@bsrbck Check it out, contact the Teams
So looking forward to the new commentary team! Good Luck!
Why is Antonelli so highly rated? F2 is not fast. Not slow. Just average.
yeah he’s clearly overrated until he wins something amazing. I hope he knows that; the pressure on him seems misplaced within the current driver situations. Plus, Antonelli sb at Ferrari. Weird driver situations everywhere.
The Prema PR team appear to have strong connections.
Both Bearman and Antonelli (both with Prema), are touted for an F1 seat, yet both are having pretty average seasons.
Bearman is ranked 19th... Antonelli currently 9th..
Bearman is currently 19th in F2. The teams understand the metrics of good drivers more than the public has access to. The Prema team itself has struggled to get their car in order, but are improving.
Listening to Harry, I am glad that I have a subscription to the F1 broadcast.
Nice to see Harry I listened to him a bunch on motogp podcasts but I’m sure he’ll be great with Sky sports
Super enjoyable, Ben & Karun have really good chemistry 👍🏻
Good to hear from Karun that he will be in the paddock. The studio version of the F1 show turns me cold..and head for the off button.
Norris was gifted by the safetycar
So was Max in Abu Dhabi 2021, keep crying 👍
@14:11 verstappen just said yesterday that newey won't have some time off, cause red bull didn't requested it.
i suspect he either has damning evidence on horner or some very well paid lawyers. probably with italian accents
@@TheTororistyou ought to stop doing drugs
@@allezlesrouges you think rb just let him off his contract with essentially zero gardening leave coz they like him so much? maybe you should gimme some of what you're smoking.
Red Bull couldn't demand it - more like - he knows where the bodies are buried.
@@TheTororist he Defo has dirt on them. He's been there since the Start
you guys really need chapters
A similar thing happened at the end of the Mansell, Senna, Prost era where they all seemed to just take turns (then retire, or retire and return) for Willams which had a ridiculously dominant car. Another Newey car so would make sense if he goes to Ferrari. Maybe Alonso might get one year after Lewis is done.
Can the editor also add sections of the podcast in the video? Makes it easier to follow certain sections or selectively listen to those aspects
I think Lewis will do another contract at Ferrari after his 2yrs and stay on till he’s 43/45
unless Charles destroys him.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@daarom3472 big if. either way, i suspect 44 years old.
@@Redlingsteinthar will turn into tears the more years you see Lewis in a front running car 😂 what a crystappen fan
@@sadikurrahman4833untill then injoy watch f1 and hearing the Dutch anthem almost evry race 😭😭😭
Love Harry from Crash MotoGP podcast 😊
Thank god no Crofty ty sky ty ty ty u do listen imolas gonna be sooo good now ty ty ty
As someone who has been to the Indy 500, I can confirm that traffic is the most insane you’ll ever see.
Wow i get to watch 1 out of 6 videos from you guys..why can't we watch ALL of your videos here in Australia?
“We have had the domination from Red Bull so long..” 😂😂😂😂 did you really say that? Its only been the 2nd part of 2022 and full season 2023… Merc had 2014-2020! ……
there was definitely more competition. ferrari and redbull were winning races after 2016. in 17 and 18 was a proper battle. 19 had that illegal jet engine from ferrari but seb kept spinning and charle dnfs. plus redbull would win a handfull of races every year since 2014
yes agree .. Just Brit thinking..when it was their golden boy Hamilton it really didnt matter how many years he had of car dominance.. 3 years 4 years 5 years .ooh its just a Brit winning it doesnt really mean anything..yah britain forever.
then when its the Non Brit winning and with less than 2 years of the red bull dominance..this was all they could talk about day after-day then week after week then ,month afetr month...go SKY - always biased beyond belief
Typical comment from Sky sports/ Brits 😂
@@TheTororist’14, ‘16, ‘20 was almost no competition for Mercedes unless they had reliability problems/ crashes/ unlucky safety cars.
@@TheTororist
17-18 was a proper battle?
For about a third or half the season, yes. Merc, as usual pulled away and won it easily.
Also, a ferrari or RB winning a race or two didn't change the overall outcome.
Stop coping and being in denial about the much longer domination of mercedes.
Try again .
Great look for the podcast! Looks like money.
Merc certainly aren’t lost anymore at this stage after FP2 at Imola. I think the sheriff is back to town in the person of James Allison & things are about to change.
looking foward to my favourite commentators baxk in the paddock!
Sometimes the ease with which these 'experts' are suggesting how F1-teams can solve problems and how they 'cannot understand how they [certain F1-teams] have not yet found solutions to their problems' is sometimes astonishing. As if they have done all of this F1-team work before in a successful way.
Sainz should sign with Williams and push on with a team that are building the riggt way
I love how media totally disregard the known facts for something that makes for a good story. Newey departure though breaking news to media and the rest of the f1 consumers, I am certain in fact both Max and Horner mentioned that Adrian's departure was already in the pipeline. RB is so big a company so they have been working on this transition for a while which is why Max keeps telling you lot, Newey departure doesn't change things. He is comfortable and happy with what he got going with RB. As for the lower workers going elsewhere, that's absolutely normal in F! when a team is successful, people look for opportunities elsewhere especially given cost cap and also opportunities for going higher up the ladder. The most important pieces at Redbull are robust to handle change. As for the engine thing, while it is true that, this is new territory for RB, but we do well to remember Redbull hired engineers from across the paddock including retaining guys from the honda project, I am pretty certain they have the right minds and a top class facility never mind
I think Horner will sign Sainz as a back up for Verstappen potentially leaving at the end of 25 or to keep him and Jos in check as part of the power play.
Do the likes of Martin not feel a bit jumped over to have this random guy doing comms and not them? Martin would be perfect.
Martin doesn't work every race
He’s been commentating on 5live for a few years now
I’d imagine Martin has chosen to reduce his workload.
@@keirbourne5323 Martin Brundle is only contracted to do 16 races I can only assume that means all the attached stuff as well.
If Max finds the new Red Bull engine fall short - he then has only one good choice for 2026: Aston Martin with the Honda engine.
I think he hit it on the head. I think Red Bull know their power train isn't going to be up to scratch just like at the start of the Merc dominance. Same with why a lot are leaving Merc. It's all looking very promising for Ferrari.
I like Karun's idea of Max taking a year out to do other things. It would be brilliant if he did!
Good to see them on the same room!. About time to get out of the zoom calls work from home 😁
Ferrari must just remember the old saying when signing all these people like Newey that too many cooks.....🤔
I will miss crofty he is very good, but I also think Karun is a really good pundit now . Hope it goes well
Kind of disappointed they didn't let Alex Jacques do it.
He Does F1 Tv
@@tobjkx2493 yep that's great for everyone who has that....I and a lot of people don't 🙃
@@tobjkx2493 that's great for those who have it. I don't. Many don't.
He is each race under the F1TV COMMENTATORS BUTTON!!!I listen to him each race!!!
@@Redlingstein not everyone has F1TV
Ferrari is getting themselves in a load of trouble with all these new teammembers …. They will bring friction with the already existing crew, they don’t want to be ambushed or taken over by outsiders, the culture within Ferrari is nothing like any other team, that will clash. Communication issues. Getting new teammember in….means kicking current Ferrari crew out…. That will have an impact on the loyalty feel within the team as well. It will bring a lot of friction, irritation, misunderstandings, unhappy and less motivated crew members… All these changes all at once will destabilize the team for a period of time……
And..all these new teammembers means for cost cap that they need to FIRE FERRARI CREW for it…….
All those facilities, all that culture and 17 years since your last championship (Ferrari isn’t winning next year either) and your only POV is they better not change anything? Am I understanding that correctly, that nothing is wrong there?
Is Karun's shirt the new pink/green white/grey argument? My eyes can't tell
LOL at the British Bias/Opium
Max will win by 20 seconds
Stroll needs to go,so Sainz can join the big man Alonso!!!
That's a nepo baby.
Alonslow has always been small and a nobody for a decade
Truly unsufferable amount of speculation
So no Martin or Crofty this week?
This video aged like milk,its redbull struggling now 🤣🤣
I really hope that all this excitement doesnt boil down to the same as usual result. F1 NEEDS things to mix up
2025 I'm driving for Mercedes guys.🙋
the seat no one wants.😂😂😂😂😢
God I wish they'd stop wittering on about "Red Bull dominating for so long" - its been two years - big deal. Merceedes (8), Ferrari (6), McLaren (4), even Red Bulll themselves (4), another 7 teams have won back to back.
Mercedes have been ‘lost’ for 3 years. I don't know why this is still a surprise to everyone, people just love the Mercedes slander too much i guess.
Engine Merchants…
P3 and P2 in the constructors. Have been the 3rd best team during these regulations. If that is your definition of "lost" then RB and Ferrari were lost between 2014-2020.
You must be new....
I think is is the opposite. I think they are merc fans and they are still hoping they will turn things around.
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 been watching since 2010
19:08 Wasn't the Lewis to Ferrari move leaked? Wdym he controlled the narrative?
Do Crofty and Nico practise their commentary?
At the top are always the guidelines to keep the language clean. It's time for Sky to stick to this too. Because politely knocking someone to the ground is also not adhering to the guidelines
Can't wait to see Adrian at Ferrari next year, Fred is probably took him from Monaco on tour of Italy 😂😂😂
Continue: 23:30
Misc: 23:40
You can’t all be first
10:36 Mercedes experimenting = excuses for Hamilton's inconsistent results.
I don't think even Chandok is interested in Chandok's opinion.
Is Martin getting ready to call it a day? He's missed a couple races already.
At least Lewis still at his best
I'm not excited about team Bahrain, i would rather Ferrari or RB for the win.
Alonso wouldn't have even come close to winning Imola 2005 had Kimi Raikkonen's car not broken down!
Kimi was flying!
What an overrated drive!
So glad to see the back of Crofty for a race, who knows, this guy might actually know what team a driver races for 😅
I fear Max’s revenge this weekend…
Harry Benjamin was doing so well until he went full click bait nonsense. Sigh
Karun…. The McLaren DID NOT WORK IN THE SPRINT NOR THE GP QUALI…… they ate the soft tyres!! They couldn’t even drive 1 full Quali lap with them!!
Mercedes just don't get the regs. Had they allowed Loic to decide the direction, they'd of been far closer this year and not behind a customer team which is plain embarrassing.
Edit: a season with no Sainz and Stroll in a car is the most disgraceful situation that could happen in F1. Absolute joke.
Max won't leave Red Bull until a seat becomes available at Ferrari in maybe 3 years' time.
Then, he'll make the switch to Ferrari, grab a couple of titles and retire.
They have all failed in statistics, not enough data for conclusion they arrive at. Except Mercedes
Take a year of to let LH win his 8 wdc?
'We dont really talk about Lewis to Ferarri anymore' is a an absolute JOKE. WE dont talk about it, you lot bring it up 14 times per interview, EVERY WEEKEND. I'd put 50 quid on it being brought up at least twice in every single skyf1 podcast since it was announced.
jajaja. i was rolling my eyes
`Why would Ferrari take failing Merc designers, aero people and engineers? I don't get it.
If Red Bull Austria Sells out to Ford which is very likely. Will they want a US driver, and whom would it be ?
Will HAAS sign Logan Sargent ?
Will the F1 organisation allow a three driver team configuration given the amount of fly away races are exhausting the drivers and personal ?
RB won’t sell to anyone. Ford isn’t interested and can’t afford a racing team 😂
DTS viewer…right? 😂
Geez… you clearly don’t know anything abt F1…
Please replace Crofty with Harry!!
Absolutely agree !!
Mercedes are more lost than my wife’s car fob 😂. She should get a job at Brackley the amount of times she loses it. They’ll be a good fit.
Oh no! Anyway....
All this talk of the merc engine being so good for 2026…makes you wonder if Max takes Oscars seat for 26 since McLaren are doing better with the merc engine and we end up with Max and Lando recreating Senna-Prost.
Mercedes will be finished until the new regs in 2026 end
2026 IS STILL THESE GROUND EFFECT CARS…. Which they clearly don’t understand. Only some specifics will be different from 2026 but STILL GROUND EFFECT….
@@Redlingsteinthat’s why I said until they change this era of car they won’t be winning anything
Its NOT A BORING SEASON WHEN MAX WINS EVERYTHING!!!! Its a INCREDIBLE, RECORDBREAKING SEASON TO ENJOY!!! The British anti Max talk…..
Mercedes nailed one car and everyone thought they were legends!
Lucky seems more appropriate
they nailed one engine.
@@jkbzz yeah probably
@@jkbzz But haven't they technically nailed this engine as well? McLaren just won a race with that very engine. Aston wer fighting at the front with a Merc engine last year and so was Mclaren. We can say their engine is the reason for their dominance all we want but I don't think it was just that. After all they still had to make a good car to fully optimzie the engine. They've failed to do so these last three years.
What's up with this "Harry"? Why is he pasted into this podcast? His mouth movement doesn't even match what he is saying, is he some kind of AI commentator project?
Could you not get anyone better than Chandok as a guest? he has 11 entries, no points, and his best finish is 17th in formula E a decade ago.
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First comment!! P1
Sack Ted and you'll be REALLY getting somewhere.
Well Mercedes in a mess , Red Bull in a crisis, Newey going speculation, this is boring ! You have milked it enough, there are eight other teams, sixteen other drivers! I don’t think your programs are unbiased, with informative accurate information.
A name change to Failcedes is mandatory.
Sorry but if David Croft does not want to commentate then he should no longer do the job. Murray Walker was going here there and everywhere and he was in his 70s. No disrespect to Harry and I am sure he will do a good job.
Matt Baker will never, ever give his own opinion.Does he even have one?
Wow! Benjamin, you sucked as commentator in Imola! I understand that you need to fill some huge shoes, but man, try to bring something to the table, we can all read the stats and see what it is happening on the screen. Talk about slow burner and a pure disappointment.
Karun is a nightmare should be martin or ant alongside harry so chuffed for harry spent years doing all the lower classes and doing bbc live radio and loves MotoGP mega choice
I have no idea why they ask Chandok to comment on any of this - he was no good and never has original insight