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Fighting Men of Rhodesia ep199 | Supt Keith Samler | Selous Scouts, BSAP
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- čas přidán 26. 05. 2023
- The video commences with very interesting and rare footage of Op Dingo (1 & 2), filmed by Detective Superintendent Keith Samler. At the end of the video are great pictures from Keith's time in the Selous Scouts, so please watch to the end;)
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I am from NZ, have no affiliation with Rhodesia, but have to say this series is absolutely brilliant. This is history, it may not be a history that some people want to tell, but for these people is the real and so very important. To the team who have the vision to put this together.. I salute you!
My take away from a great many of the participants in this series, is that they were pro change, pro equality - but could foresee the problems that eventually happened in Zimbabwe.
@@daemonharper3928 Some of the pro change, pro equality rhetoric is of course sincere. On the other hand, some former staunch right wingers now want to be remembered as liberals. They have changed their tune.
Well said Keith. A brilliant recollection of your hard work and excellent efforts during the Hondo and about the Rhodesian era. Very proud to be related I am too.
The contemporary Western world needs men with the Rhodesian spirit to revitalise and defend Western culture. The Finns have a unique word for it... 'Sisu' which is described as stoic determination, tenacity of purpose, grit, bravery, resilience, and hardiness. Sisu is an action mindset that equips the individual to choose to take on challenges beyond their observed capacities. It provides the final empowering push when we would otherwise hesitate to act. Sisu can be conceptualized as taking action against the odds. This also describes the character of the Rhodesian armed forces.
My sentiments, too.
The best defence a Civilisation needs is realising that greed and oppressive behaviour cotradict the very nature of the human spirit. Unless you mean the collapsing Western White Supremacist dogma. Which has self destructed ever since it was adopted.
Why would any RHODESIAN trust the west?
The Western Culture will die an agonising death with likes of Trudeau and Biden. It is a gone show brother !
Here is another name that for those in the know, was highly regarded. Salute to another brave SB operator
What a great nation Rhodesia was! Betrayed by their brothers and neighbors! May the younger generation learn from their heroic fight for justice and freedom and the destruction communism and socialism brought to the people of Africa. Thanks Keith, Hannes and John for this excellent interview.
Some Rhodesians insist that they had nothing in common with South Africans. I suspect that they would have been perfectly happy to throw South Africa under the bus if they thought it was in Rhodesia's best interests to do so. Indeed, some Rhodesians do throw South Africans under the bus by promoting the myth that race mattered in Bloemfontein but not in Bulawayo. On the other hand, I have considerable affection and respect for tough, brave, honest Rhodesians.
Thank you for your service Keith. I truly hope Hannes will do at least one more episode of your combat experience and impressions of what you found in the camps in your externals
Bless you sir! Salute
Incredible bravery shown by the Fighting Men of Rhodesia. Real life Supermen. I salut you all and everything that you accomplished during those turbulent years of defending your country. Well researched and amazing storytelling by Mr Wessels. Your Audible book readers are fantastic! I look forward to listening to more of your books.
Thanks Keith, Hannes and John. Keith my late father was MIC at Umvukwes in the early fifties. His four son's went on to serve in the RLI, SAS and BSAP during the war.
Another terrific episode. Thank you Hannes and your team for putting together this wonderful, and often heartrending, record of such a critical period in the history of our motherland. In many ways it was the best of times and the worst of times as the old adage goes. Really appreciated and with much heartfelt respect to you and all those who have contributed to this extraordinary series.
Great footage, the world needs to remember their deeds.
Thank you Keith and Hannes! Remember our cricketing days in Umtali Keith! Great memories!! Thank you Hannes for your dedication in this worthy cause!
15.4k subs! Good to see this channel getting some traction.
Thank you Keith- As a younger Rhodesian I feel the same about losing the war.
Thank you for your informative disscussion. Dad knew Peter Combes well. A lot of very special BSAP guys....Bob Wishart...Sergeant Magadza...John Coqhuoun....Tim Trafford...Puggy😮...And of course Allum .....Ian C....so many gentlemen...Thank you Keith
My deepest respect Keith. The total commitment conveyed to your adopted country is evident in the expressions mirrored in your talk. I salute you. I would have liked to hear if you had crossed paths with Ken Flower and if you had any knowledge of his treacherous activities against the state.
Hi: I worked for Ken Flower at Red Bricks and, based only on my experience there, do not accept that Ken Flower was involved in any 'treacherous activities' against Rhodesia. All these years later I have yet to read from anyone who would have known better than me that Ken, who served the country for over 40 years, was a traitor.
@@WMalcolmc Hi: In 2011 the BBC Radio 4 programme Documents featured testimony from Lord Owen that Flower had been an MI6 mole for Britain during his tenure as head of the Rhodesian CIO. For Mugabe to retain Flower’s services as CIO boss in his Zimbabwe administration is a clear expression of earned trust by Mugabe. Of course this is all conjecture but I am willing to bet my bottom dollar that had Ian Smith weeded out the likes of Flower post U.D.I. the pre-warning of operations to the enemy, on many occasions, would have been minimised.
Anyone who automatically believes Lord Owen's self-serving comments is somewhat gullible. For Mugabe to retain Ken Flower's service for the reason you state would be very foolish. Would you want someone who betrayed his boss to work for you. Absolute rubbish. Please explain your own direct experience in this situation rather than just quoting a dishonored politican.
@@WMalcolmc Am I correct that you left Rhodesia in 1975.
Yes - that's correct.
Good to see you again Keith.
Long time memories of bindura scouts fort and enterprise.
Still have one of your Dr Hook fishing lures.
Salute Sir.
Would you be able to answer this question? The BSAP (and seemingly from this interview the CID) are said to be famous for being unarmed, and yet were issued a service revolver.. At the same time Special Branch seem to have been armed on most of the assignments they went on.
Yet the whole officer structure had service weapons. So the question is.. what situation in their line of duty would have led CID or BSAP officers to go out on the job with their weapons? Any advice greatly appreciated.
@powerbite92 up until 1970 almost all bsap personall were unarmed on duty.
Weapons were held in station strong rooms and issued if the member in charge thought it necessary. For example if a rabid dog was on the loose, or a cow had been hit by a truck and had to be put down.
Every policeman/woman was competently trained in depot on fire arms.
As the war arrived officers in the areas where there was an insurgent presence began to carry firearms.
The police support unit, originally used for riot control or disaster support did from 1970 become a fully fledged para military unit eventually reaching regiment strength.
Town police remained unarmed until about 1977.
Once insurgency reached towns and cities from 1978 most officers were armed with Walther P1 pistol, due to sanctions called the P 1.
Uzzi machine pistols were also issued.
By 1978 rural police, cid , and special branch were fully armed.
During the last year of the war many of the special branch carried captured communist block arms, AK,rpk, red and tokorev pistols.
Several military units did the same.
I hope this helps clarify the matter.
Thank you for you interest.
There are several interviews by bsap members from all branches of the service on this channel that detail the activities of each branch.
@@mikenorton3294great reply Mike. I think that many of us forget that there are plenty people not au fait with how we operated in Rhodesia. In fact there were plenty soldiers unaware of how the BSAP operated. Your explanation has helped to fill the gap
@Calum Mackenzie thank you Calum.
@@mikenorton3294 Thanks so much. Very informative and explained something that had previously confused me.
Thanks for a great interview Keith and Hannes, more info / light shed on the unheard side of the SB involvement in the bush war. Thanks also to John, Tony and background crew for their involvement in making these interviews possible and also to Jennie Upton for her admin work.
God Bless one and all.
Such a pleasant chat Keith. Thank you.
Most interesting but there must be much more material to warrant a second talk ? Thank you Keith.
Part 2 with more details please :)
@46:30 I understand your pain despite being a descendant of magandanga. Its been fastly forgotten that infrastructure that exists till date and is usually referred to when the government wants to attract tourists was built by Rhodesia. It has outlasted even the poorest maintenance by the black government. The big hospitals that were built in many cities and even in rural places like Saint Luke's hospital in Lupane were built by white people.
The railway system was built by white people.
All the majestic bridges (Vicfalls Bridge, Brichenough Bridge etc) were built by Rhodesians.
I have heard many times the politicians brag about ZIm having good education. Even though its no longer the case, it once was a good education based ont he Cambridge system and introduced to us by Rhodesians.
The Kariba Dam was built in 1959 by Rhodesians.
All successful High schools that exist today were built by RHodesians and they still stand despite the poor management (Falcon High School, Umtali Boys high, Gotoma high school, Lomagindi , to name a few).
A zimbabwean is rarely out of place when he or she travels the world because we speak English..its not Nehanda or Kaguvi who taught us that.
And lets face the other elephant in the house... While others were inventing things and progressing, some were basking in the sun and eating melons.
LOL, you had me at ‘attract tourists’
Thank you for an extremely interesting talk, Keith. I hope you're asked to do more 😊
Thanks Keith for sharing your experiences and history 🙏 excellent interview, I enjoyed the film and thought the incorporation of it in the video was excellent including the text. Thanks to all involved! an education
Great chat. Just one statement perhaps needing correction is "I still regret loosing the war" correction :- I think we won the war but lost the country and so so sad it is for us all. Today many many Zimbabweans I now befriend, agree fully. Thanks John, keep things going cause we getting madala now and these stories need to be told. An ex BSAP member.
I must admit a love the whole chopper thing However never got to jump as a para trooper. Since then took up SKY DIving and loved it .1073 RLI were not jumping RESPECT
1973
What a long and rich life Keith has lived and with I am sure very few regrets. I wish him and the other survivors a peaceful retirement.
Thanks to the channel presenters who make these warriors recollections immortal.
'About time you went out and saw the world'.
Time was when that was the way to experience the brilliant overseas services of the British Empire; now, of course, people go to Dubai or some other grisly spot, to see the insides of marble-clad hotels. My dad went to the Groundnut Scheme in Tanganyika after the war, which didn't end too well, but the family had its 50s and 60s there, and I spent much of the following decades around Africa, with a bit of military service inbetween.
Met up with many, many Whenwe's in Tz much later, of course!
"That supreme idiot" 😂 Keith you beaut.
Another great video , thank you guys
The BSAP did not use the branch of service in which a commissioned officer served, in the rank structure. Keith was a Superintendent who happened to be in the CID and SB at different times. So his rank was Superintendent, not Detective Superintendent.
Amusing and interesting interview much respect
Some great footage at the start, thanks for doing these interesting interviews
It's interesting how in Rhodesia intelligence was handled mostly by the BSAP and electronic warfare was almost exclusively the domain of Signals.
I'm not sure any other country had a similar intelligence organization.
I often shake my head at the Americans who have 1/2 dozen intelligence agencies. (imagine the infighting that creates?)
in the US's case it doesn't help that while one intelligence service is directed against threats to national security, the other is directed against the American people for internationalists 😆
it's important to remember Rhodesia was an extremely 'small' country with very limited assets and institutions. it's not like their intelligence services were intended to be set up that way; they just threw the tasks at the only organisations they had that had the loosely required skillsets.
it could only be the BSAP and the Signals for those two spheres. it was all hodgepodge and scraped together rather than by some grand design.
@@greg_4201 I worked in electronic countermeasures in Rhodesia and I assure you it was anything but hodgepot..
We were motivated and had some of the best equipment in the world.
We even plugged a Scouts leak!
Pro-Trip: play the interview at 2x speed for a better listening experience
I remember goimg on a course as a Sandf vet in Pretoria towards the end in 1987 as our war was also winding down the overall sense of impending doom prevailed over everything now after 30 years of this Anc communist paradise i just hope that all the sacifise and hard fighting was not for nothing😢
As a south african, i feel tremendous shame, the
Way we sold-out Rhodesia.
That's a hot take on Andrew P. Bowles there 🤣
any rhodies in brisbane i reside in mt gravatt
The script scrolling over the pictures goes too quickly for easy reading. Also the colour of the script does not stand out clearly enough from the background.
Please can you fix this?
Not with deleting this video, re-editing and re-uploading. The dilemma is there are light and dark parts in the clip, so a light script will not stand out against a light background and vice-versa for a dark script. I tried several options...the easiest solution is to just pause the video (hit the space bar) and read the script. My apologies...
@@fightingmenofrhodesia Thank You John, for the content
@John van Zyl
Keith, thank you for your story. The coin story they did in South Africa as well. May we please have some more stories from Keith, as Hannes says we must talk. I do not know how long I have.
Hit the pause button and read at your leisure.
Note to self; hand grenades aren't great self-defence weapons
😂
@@fightingmenofrhodesia 🤣
I thought tht was a let's say strange moment and I am, glad I didn't hear it irl from the horses mouth cus I wouldn't know how to respond
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I see all you are gathered here in Rhodesia and here in Zimbabgwe things are not easy but better than when it was stolen from us good luck ladies and gentlemen there in Rhodesia I will not visit. Did you know even now officially the name of our country is wrongly spelt?
Stop smoking mbanje & please post something basically lucid
LOL, you guys...
@@calummackenzie1797 Lol in 1976 you would be right but now a few things may have changed maybe it would be better to understand that even the BSAP were a criminal organisation.
241 vs 5000 NOW that is BALLS OF STEEL seal team 6 are would never try those odds, hell doubt even Delta Force would (though could be wrong there they also bad ass LOL) What is also important to point out is that BSAP was POLICEMEN.