It's times like that... That I was happy being a Petty Officer, and not a Chief or an O-4 and below. I've done office work with the Navy, and hearing rage like that on the other side of the door, it still makes the hairs on the lowest part of my nuts curl up, like "God damn, I'm glad I'm not in there!"
I've seen this movie a million times in my lifetime. I now recognize the fear and foresight in Goose's voice. Did he see something coming to them that Maverick was too reckless to recognize? Crazy
I was 15 when I saw "Top Gun" in the theater and was 100% behind Maverick's ballsy style of flying --- but now that I'm 51 and with a family I can definitely empathize with Goose more --- you get worried about the kinds of risks that Mav was taking to satisfy his ego
But Goose died because Maverick refused to break from Iceman, which had been the reason he was an outcast prior to the incident: he was self-serving and obsessed with personal glory. He did what he was told to on that training hop, and it was because he didn’t follow his instincts that Goose died. If Iceman disengaged so Maverick could take the shot or Maverick disengaged and didn’t stay with his wingman, the crash wouldn’t have happened. Maverick was reckless but he kept them both safe, and when he didn’t listen to himself Goose died.
@@BigBeefNCheddar I still believe Iceman was partly responsible for Goose's death, he did cutoff Mav and cause the jetwash. Granted Maverick could have backed off also Mav's plane Mav's responsibility.
People don't seem to realize the most important message here. Notice that Viper reprimands Maverick for flying below the hard deck, yet after he leaves and Jester mentions that he's a wild card, Viper turns to him and says, "He got you, didn't he?" To which Jester replies, "Yeah." You would think they would disqualify the win due to Maverick breaking the rules, but this just goes to show you that both men secretly acknowledged that the hard deck didn't matter. Maverick got him.
No matter how many times I watch Top Gun this part has me laughing so hard when that air boss bumped into that Sailor with his tray of Coffee as he blew a gasket. LOL 😂😂😂😂😂😂
When I was a kid and first saw this film, I thought Jester was just a mean jealous boss who was a sore loser since Maverick beat him, as an adult seeing this film, the exchange between 2:05-2:36 shows that Jester’s attitude about Maverick shows that he was more overall questioning the liabilities of flying alongside Maverick in combat and that Jester was in fact more reasonable with his concerns.
Jester read him perfectly-Mitchell is a wildcard, and in aerial combat or any combat you have to have trust in the pilot or the soldier next to you, in front of you and in back of you. Total trust. Goose was right too- someone with too much to prove always goes too far, and someone else pays the price. Individuality, both in achievement and in temperament, has to back seat it to the good of the men around you. Goose saw what eventually happened coming- so did Jester and Iceman for that matter. The only one who didn’t was Mitchell, because guys like that either can’t or won’t until someone gets hurt or killed.
I'd say that's true for most engagements, but in a protracted and truly testing situation such as Midway or Battle of Britain, the renegades often perform the best and the longest.
Viper comes across as a perdfect commander. Maintains protocol but without micromanagement or pedantry. Never loses track of the fact combat is unpredictable and cruel, which means those ultimately best at it are seldom model citizens. it's a difficult line to tread.
Maverick's fighting talents were recognized, and Viper acknowledged the baggage Maverick comes with. But he also recognized the purpose of Top Gun, take the Navy's best air warriors and make them better. You need creative, out of the box types in the fight. But you also need to establish the rules and crack the whip, if need be. Because the great warriors know where the rules are and know exactly where to break them. Those that just barrel along, heedless, get people needlessly killed on their own side. Maverick needed to learn the lesson of choosing his moments. And he did...mostly.
YES!!!!! You win the internet!!!! Let’s do a deep dive: Glasses: Bob/Bob’s dad…check Quiet: Bob/Bob’s dad…check Geeky:?Bob/Bob’s dad…check Vaguely similar looks: CHECK Either this is the world’s greatest conspiracy theory or he IS the father!
Wow, this scene has so much meaning after watching Top Gun Maverick! There are so many layers to peel back. 1. Goose the only family he has (Rooster is now) 2. He's dealing with his father's legacy/memory (similar to Rooster) 3. Not let in the academy because he's someone's kid (*spoiler*, so I won't say).
Later on when Maverick went to Charlie's for dinner, he said his mom died a few years after his dad was shot down. Unsure who raised him and that's for another question to answer later but I'm sure he wasn't far off that Goose was his only family. Legacy-wise, Maverick's was more tainted than Rooster's and that's because the Navy/US Gov't wanted to save their asses and took it out on Duke Mitchell and his son Maverick by denying him a spot at Annapolis. Also, technically (and spoiler alert) the academy didn't reject Rooster. Maverick pulled Rooster's application because he promised Mrs. Bradshaw (Goose's widow and Rooster's mom) not to have Rooster follow in his father's footsteps of being a Naval Aviator which ended up being the source of tension and Rooster blamed Maverick for delaying his Naval Career by four years. However, Rooster could have a Plan B like go to college and either join that school's NROTC or graduate college and join NOCS or enlist in the Navy and get his Bachelor's and then go to OCS.
@@clipobserverExactly. I can't blame Mav for flying that recklessly and daringly since the Navy/U.S. Government lied to him to cover their butts. They violated one of Mav's five primary integrity needs (the need to be good/to have a good reputation) and since they violated it, he was essentially taking it out back on them by attempting to prove that he's not his father; he's better than his father. Had they not lied, this whole incident wouldn't have happened. It's hard to think about others and not about yourself when one of your five primary integrity needs was violated.
To whose wondering, why was Maverick required to respect the Hard Deck, but Heatherly seemingly wasn't? Because if the enemy pilot takes a suicidal dive, and plows Mother Earth's @$$hole at full speed, that's his problem. Don't be like Maverick and make it yours.
That's why he was being graded in training Don't keep following your enemy and keep air superiority Jester purposely let himself go below hard deck to simulate that maybe Maverick had successfully got him to lose control over the battle and panickingly crash But Mav took too far violating the Hard Deck rules which render him having bad grade and plus he buzzed the tower without permission
@@davecrupel2817 Oh, I def would. He thinks outside the box and is a risk taker. That’s what I like about maverick. Iceman never took any risks and in the end, in a dogfight, maverick saved HIS life. Jester only did what he did so he wouldn’t get caught by anyone and maverick knew that and went below engagement threshold anyway. He did it to get even with jester and he succeeded and Viper even admitted maverick succeeded.
Maverick got Chester on the first day. The First Day. Both instructors knew deep down how good he was. It’s just that being this wildcard will ultimately cost you, or your team mate.
I mean, you realize the hard deck simulates the ground, right? So...by going under the hard deck, he was simulating flying straight into the ground and simulated killed himself. That is NOT to marks of a good pilot.
@@davidcalvin4215 hmm...maybe so. My grandfather was a Naval Aviator. One of the first enlisted. I'd have to do some research to get an idea of the time period.
There's a long-standing fan theory that Pete and Duke Mitchell are the descendants of one "Billy Mitchell" - look him up, considered one of the most ground-breaking (and insubordinate) Military officers in American aviation history.
Watch the movie Risky Business..talk about Tom Cruise looking young... LOL! I think that was the movie that gave him the big Hollywood break all actors hope for early in their acting careers....
I recently watched this with my best friend and we agreed that we wouldn’t be able to hold in our laugh because someone is getting yelled at and that guy spilling everything 😂😭
I like how the commander gets down to brass tacks and nails. If you had to go into battle would you want him with you. That's what it's all about in the end.
“Top Gun rules of engagement exist for your safety and for that of your team. They are not flexible, nor am I. Either obey them or you are history, is that clear?” Viper is clearly not the man to cross.
He’s an excellent commanding officer. Mature, understands his men, and his first concern is for their safety. Doesn’t micromanage, doesn’t labour points and communicates clearly. And he’s there for his men when they need him.
"We weren't below 10,000 for more than a few seconds." Ummm, Mav, the hard deck represents the GROUND, so you basically said, "we didn't crash for more than a few seconds...."
I feel more sorry for that poor Sailor.....probably a PN or YN assigned to do the admin stuff in the office who was just probably bringing coffee to some officer or Chief. Now he's going to have to get those whites dry-cleaned lol
Welcome to the Petty Officer Association, where you're considered the bitches of the Chief's Mess. Just bend over and take it dry. It may not be pleasant, but when you got those crows, you learn to "delegate tasks" to the lower enlisted personnel. Reminds me of my pals in the "E-5 Mafia", where no one fucked with you, and you could fuck with the "fresh meat", aka the newly selected E-4s.
The Sailor in question is a First Class Petty Officer (3 chevrons, paygrade E-6), and his Rating (Job) is Information/Systems Technician (IT) - taken together, he would be called "IT1" for short ("Eye-Tee-One"). Morever, he's been in the US Navy from between 8 and 11 years - you can tell because he has two "Hashmark" stripes on his left forearm (Each of those stripes represents 4 years - having TWO of those stripes means he has been in the Navy for 8 years, but NOT having three means he's been in the Navy less than 12 years). FOr more context, this IT1 is only one rank under the "Senior Enlisted" rank of IT Chief-Petty-Officer ("ITC", Paygrade E-7), which is a big step-up in the US Navy (Even the Commanding Officer treads carefully in and around the private quarters of the Chiefs). I know a few ITCs who have deeper and more applicable knowledge, clearance, and ultimately "Need to know" than 99.999% of the people you'll find at Langley, Washington DC or Apple Inc, San Jose. Basically, this IT1 Sailor is actually a fairly senior member of the base staff - I would say only about 5% of the total staff on that base out-rank him (There are a LOT of Military rank E-3 to E-5 and Civilian GS paygrades, who comprise the technicians, ground crews, galley staff, etc). Does it make sense that a relatively senior IT1 is making a coffee run? A lot of people have made the joke that the answer is "No", but this is ofc ONLY a joke. Officers and Senior Enlisted make coffee runs for their shipmates all the time, and a First Class would ofc make runs as necessary. And while it is common for the Seniors to task their Juniors to do it, I can say I have done coffee and soda runs for my Junior Enlisted and Officers when appropriate. So yes, it is perfectly realistic for this IT1 to be making a routine coffee run.
Viper ask jester, will you fly with him someday? And jester said "i don't know", because jester said he is a wildcard but indeed he want to fly with him. However, jester risking his life.... Maybe his career flying with him.
the music theme throughout top gun is and was so iconic. How do you match that? The 2nd one was extremely awesome yes but......didn't grab me with such iconic music in the background Like the 1st one did.
There are no rules of combat when you in the air in real life but you have to trust the man next to you and if they are reckless that can get you killed. So I see why he was a little upset lol..
rules of engagement exist for discipline and doctrine purposes, Top Gun is a training school and, therefore, all about discipline and the doctrine of air combat. When Viper is saying that the Hard Deck exists as a rule of engagement he means that it represents something you will likely face in actual combat situations, in this case the literal ground. The Hard Deck is set at an altitude of 10,000 AGL because it is to represent the literal ground level while still being at a high enough altitude that if something goes wrong during an exercise, you won't actually crash your plane. The radio tower buzz being a "rule of engagement" is more of a "don't be an asshole to your peers" rule that goes with your point, if you've demonstrated time and again during routine sorties and training exercises that you're going to be an asshole, that's gonna have an impact on your career in some way
I think that not having Viper and Jester in TG2 was a mistake. Both would have made a wonderful contribution to the movie. Maverick visiting them like he visited Iceman, both Jester and Viper, especially Viper, made an impact on Maverick in TG1. It would have been a nice touch. Beyond that, I personally think that Viper's character in TG1 was one of the best portrayals of a Top Drawer Commanding Officer in a movie EVER!!!
@@ObamaFromKenya I am aware of that, and Top Skerritt and Micheal Ironside would have made for excellent scenes in my opinion, just like the scene with Val Kilmer. The scene with Viper at his home in TG1 was epic.
Yes. I know, Maverick is dangerous and unpredictable. But in combat, there are many things that are unpredictable and can go south quickly, hence sometimes there is a need for people who are unpredictable.
Maverick was used to getting roasted and shouted at. Viper didn't shout, he showed his disgust at their misconduct by not even looking at them while reprimanding them-Maverick is an O-3, Viper is an O-5 and they've defied rule's that were in place to keep people safe. Maverick was given a simple choice: Obey the school's rules of engagement or he would be out of the Navy . Maverick chose to obey the rules of engagement!
0:00- 0:20 I didn't want to be Chief Astronaut Daniel Brandenstein getting chewed out by executives of a major airline after Astronaut Dave Walker buzzed one of their aircraft with his T-38.
I think Jester is taking Maverick beating him far too personally. Maverick may be a cowboy but he's also a good pilot so Lt. Cmdr Heatherly would be safe. To succeed in combat, you must first have faith in your wingman!!
I thought LCDR Heatherly went pretty easy on him considering? Sure, Mav broke the ROI, but he still smoked a highly decorated flight instructor’s ass, in a far less agile, speedy and maneuverable F-14? At the end of the day, Jester would probably take a “wild card” like Maverick, since he is unpredictable, when the enemy likely has the Navy Fighter Pilot handbook memorized?
Jester is taking things professionally. If Jester takes ANYTHING personally in this scene, it's that he and his CO (Viper) just got chewed out by the Airboss with everybody on staff listening in (and the Airboss is justified in doing so), due to Mavericks lack of discipline. There's also a very pratical reason why you don't do flybys without the Tower's permission. There's often a LOT going on at any Airport or Airbase, not just planes being landed or flying holding patterns. To use just one example, at any time, there might be work crews and technicians aloft working on radar, communications array, the roofing, etc. Even assuming the flyby shockwave didn't break any equipment or cause workers aloft to fall to their deaths, something as simple as a tool being dropped on someone's head dozens of feet below them, or blown off causing delays and breakage, or blown into the equipment causing objects to wedge themselves into equipment crevices and chassis, etc....a lot can go wrong when a pilot ignores the Orders of an Airboss who's basically saying "We're busy here and unprepared for a big Tomcat sending massive pressure waves across every working surface of this airfield full of people handling fuel, explosives, high-voltage electrical equipment, etc, worth billions of dollars".
Maverick will soon learn that his way is not the best way. When Viper goes up with Jester, they decide to teach him the perils of being a loose cannon. Viper breaks with Jester knowing Maverick will hunt him down. Whilst Hollywood is manoeuvring to take out Jester, Maverick should have been providing cover in case Viper snuck up on Hollywood. After spotting Viper, Maverick peeled off and pursued him. Viper spotted Maverick and goaded him to with " Come on keep coming, come around, come around. There you go, there you go!" Jester closes in as Maverick pursues Viper ; Viper twisting his jet,Maverick sticking like glue. However Jester knowing Maverick is in the midst of target fixation springs the well laid trap apply missile lock "killing" Maverick and Goose. It was a great day to learn; NEVER LEAVE YOUR WINGMAN. Maverick also had to endure the worse sanction of his fellow fighter pilots no longer trusting him. Aviation is about trust, and he's lost their trust. It's going to take alot to get it back.
i swear everyone in this film is sweating profusely at all times apart from viper, i wonder if this was a intentional decision by the director to maybe depict viper as a "cool calm and collected" leader
What the hell happened to Tom Skerritt? Alien was in '79. 7 years before this. He looked 35 there. Here he looks 50-55! Well he was 46 in Alien but still. Did he lost weight and skin remained untight? Is he a heavy smoker?
“I want some butts!” Yep, sounds like a Navy Commander to me. 🤣😂🤣
Damn right LOL
It's times like that... That I was happy being a Petty Officer, and not a Chief or an O-4 and below. I've done office work with the Navy, and hearing rage like that on the other side of the door, it still makes the hairs on the lowest part of my nuts curl up, like "God damn, I'm glad I'm not in there!"
"I WANT SOME BUTTS!"
Merlin: "You want some WHAT?"
Ayo? 🤨📸
"12 points to be deduced from Gryffindor for flying past the tower" oh wait, wrong movie.
Funny though
I've seen this movie a million times in my lifetime. I now recognize the fear and foresight in Goose's voice. Did he see something coming to them that Maverick was too reckless to recognize? Crazy
Yea man, thats what happened rewatching these movies when we're adults- it hits different and managed to pick out small details in it
I was 15 when I saw "Top Gun" in the theater and was 100% behind Maverick's ballsy style of flying --- but now that I'm 51 and with a family I can definitely empathize with Goose more --- you get worried about the kinds of risks that Mav was taking to satisfy his ego
But Goose died because Maverick refused to break from Iceman, which had been the reason he was an outcast prior to the incident: he was self-serving and obsessed with personal glory. He did what he was told to on that training hop, and it was because he didn’t follow his instincts that Goose died. If Iceman disengaged so Maverick could take the shot or Maverick disengaged and didn’t stay with his wingman, the crash wouldn’t have happened.
Maverick was reckless but he kept them both safe, and when he didn’t listen to himself Goose died.
@@BigBeefNCheddar I still believe Iceman was partly responsible for Goose's death, he did cutoff Mav and cause the jetwash. Granted Maverick could have backed off also Mav's plane Mav's responsibility.
Great insight,I think you got it, Maverick was only thinking about himself
People don't seem to realize the most important message here. Notice that Viper reprimands Maverick for flying below the hard deck, yet after he leaves and Jester mentions that he's a wild card, Viper turns to him and says, "He got you, didn't he?" To which Jester replies, "Yeah." You would think they would disqualify the win due to Maverick breaking the rules, but this just goes to show you that both men secretly acknowledged that the hard deck didn't matter. Maverick got him.
Actually Jester broke the rules. The hard deck represents the ground. He literally flew his plane into the ground.
@@johnsambo9379 i believe the instructor is allowed to breach the hard deck to reset the engagement. Can correct me if i’m mistaken
Sometimes there are situations where someone would need someone else who is unpredictable
When Jester went below the hard deck he committed simulated suicide. Maverick won the dog fight, but he didn't really need to follow him.
There’s a deleted part we’re he calls no joy. But they didn’t show it. Explains a bit about what happened.
Happy 90th birthday to Tom Skerritt
No matter how many times I watch Top Gun this part has me laughing so hard when that air boss bumped into that Sailor with his tray of Coffee as he blew a gasket. LOL 😂😂😂😂😂😂
A first class in his cracker jacks at that! It better be going to some Admiral
*GOD DAMNIT THATS TWICE!!!!*
When I was a kid and first saw this film, I thought Jester was just a mean jealous boss who was a sore loser since Maverick beat him, as an adult seeing this film, the exchange between 2:05-2:36 shows that Jester’s attitude about Maverick shows that he was more overall questioning the liabilities of flying alongside Maverick in combat and that Jester was in fact more reasonable with his concerns.
Jester read him perfectly-Mitchell is a wildcard, and in aerial combat or any combat you have to have trust in the pilot or the soldier next to you, in front of you and in back of you. Total trust. Goose was right too- someone with too much to prove always goes too far, and someone else pays the price. Individuality, both in achievement and in temperament, has to back seat it to the good of the men around you. Goose saw what eventually happened coming- so did Jester and Iceman for that matter. The only one who didn’t was Mitchell, because guys like that either can’t or won’t until someone gets hurt or killed.
The Navy cleared Lt. Pete Mitchell of any fault in LTJG Nick Bradshaw's death
I'd say that's true for most engagements, but in a protracted and truly testing situation such as Midway or Battle of Britain, the renegades often perform the best and the longest.
Marine Corps history is based on "Maverick's"
Dude - you KNOW that this is a MOVIE and "Jester" just read the freaking SCRIPT!!
@@gutgolf74 Wow, you noticed that huh? Give this guy a medal already...
Love how Jester uses playing card euphemisms to describe Maverick, while sparking up a smoke! Total boss.
Maverick is the ACE
@@jimmyyeung6627 I saw what you did there lol!!!
Almost got the impression, when Viper asked if he wanted Mav alongside him in battle, Jesper was remembering how much hell it was in Vietnam.
I laugh my ass off every time that air boss runs into the sailor with the coffee tray and then goes ballistic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
GOD DAMMIT!….THATS TWICE 🤣🤣🤣
I WANT SOME BUTTS
Also while looking at both mav and goose 😆
I WANT SOME BUTTS!!
@@RDC_Autosports
I WANT SOME BUTTS! 🤣
"I WANT SOME BUTTS!"
Classic line my friends and I have repeated for the past 25 years. lol
Viper comes across as a perdfect commander. Maintains protocol but without micromanagement or pedantry. Never loses track of the fact combat is unpredictable and cruel, which means those ultimately best at it are seldom model citizens. it's a difficult line to tread.
Well said!
Maverick's fighting talents were recognized, and Viper acknowledged the baggage Maverick comes with. But he also recognized the purpose of Top Gun, take the Navy's best air warriors and make them better. You need creative, out of the box types in the fight. But you also need to establish the rules and crack the whip, if need be. Because the great warriors know where the rules are and know exactly where to break them. Those that just barrel along, heedless, get people needlessly killed on their own side. Maverick needed to learn the lesson of choosing his moments. And he did...mostly.
If he was my CO I would probably wade through electrified soup for him.
Agreed. Viper is an excellent example of a great commanding officer.
What are the chances that sailor who was carrying the drinks is Bobs Dad?
YES!!!!! You win the internet!!!! Let’s do a deep dive:
Glasses: Bob/Bob’s dad…check
Quiet: Bob/Bob’s dad…check
Geeky:?Bob/Bob’s dad…check
Vaguely similar looks: CHECK
Either this is the world’s greatest conspiracy theory or he IS the father!
Wow, this scene has so much meaning after watching Top Gun Maverick! There are so many layers to peel back. 1. Goose the only family he has (Rooster is now) 2. He's dealing with his father's legacy/memory (similar to Rooster) 3. Not let in the academy because he's someone's kid (*spoiler*, so I won't say).
Later on when Maverick went to Charlie's for dinner, he said his mom died a few years after his dad was shot down. Unsure who raised him and that's for another question to answer later but I'm sure he wasn't far off that Goose was his only family. Legacy-wise, Maverick's was more tainted than Rooster's and that's because the Navy/US Gov't wanted to save their asses and took it out on Duke Mitchell and his son Maverick by denying him a spot at Annapolis. Also, technically (and spoiler alert) the academy didn't reject Rooster. Maverick pulled Rooster's application because he promised Mrs. Bradshaw (Goose's widow and Rooster's mom) not to have Rooster follow in his father's footsteps of being a Naval Aviator which ended up being the source of tension and Rooster blamed Maverick for delaying his Naval Career by four years. However, Rooster could have a Plan B like go to college and either join that school's NROTC or graduate college and join NOCS or enlist in the Navy and get his Bachelor's and then go to OCS.
@@clipobserverExactly. I can't blame Mav for flying that recklessly and daringly since the Navy/U.S. Government lied to him to cover their butts. They violated one of Mav's five primary integrity needs (the need to be good/to have a good reputation) and since they violated it, he was essentially taking it out back on them by attempting to prove that he's not his father; he's better than his father. Had they not lied, this whole incident wouldn't have happened. It's hard to think about others and not about yourself when one of your five primary integrity needs was violated.
Love Tom Cruise and Tom Skerritt ❤️❤️. Tony and Michael Ironside we're great too.
Michael Ironside was really young in this.
To whose wondering, why was Maverick required to respect the Hard Deck, but Heatherly seemingly wasn't?
Because if the enemy pilot takes a suicidal dive, and plows Mother Earth's @$$hole at full speed, that's his problem. Don't be like Maverick and make it yours.
That's why he was being graded in training
Don't keep following your enemy and keep air superiority
Jester purposely let himself go below hard deck to simulate that maybe Maverick had successfully got him to lose control over the battle and panickingly crash
But Mav took too far violating the Hard Deck rules which render him having bad grade and plus he buzzed the tower without permission
@@guts-141 correct.
Yeah maverick just gunned down a fireball on the desert floor
Actually i am pretty sure jester called "no Joy" which i am assuming ends the exercise.
“If you had to go into battle, would you want him with you?”
Yes, I would
I wouldn't. Not if he was the guy i had to depend upon for me to have a chance of surviving.
@@davecrupel2817 Oh, I def would. He thinks outside the box and is a risk taker. That’s what I like about maverick. Iceman never took any risks and in the end, in a dogfight, maverick saved HIS life. Jester only did what he did so he wouldn’t get caught by anyone and maverick knew that and went below engagement threshold anyway. He did it to get even with jester and he succeeded and Viper even admitted maverick succeeded.
"you're the only family I got, I'm not gonna let you down, I PROMISE YOU'....
Jester’s, “ I don’t know” response was his way of saying YES. Jester knew he was being asked a rhetorical question.
Maverick got Chester on the first day. The First Day. Both instructors knew deep down how good he was. It’s just that being this wildcard will ultimately cost you, or your team mate.
I mean, you realize the hard deck simulates the ground, right? So...by going under the hard deck, he was simulating flying straight into the ground and simulated killed himself. That is NOT to marks of a good pilot.
That's why i wouldn't fly a two-seater.
If im gonna be a "wildcard" so to speak, i want the inherent risks to fall on me, and me alone.
@@perriwenplays9215 Precisely.
In the book, Top Gun, after dismissing them Viper asks Jester if he would want them in battle.
Jester replies YES!!!
After hearing of the sequel I felt I have to watch the first one. Both this and Top Gun:Maverick are brilliant.
Love this scene.
"Thanks Mav!"
I love how at 30 seconds in, both of their chests are out to answer the Commanders tough questions..Lol!
I would love to see a prequel to this movie and see Maverick's father fly. I hear a lot about Duke Mitchell in some scenes.
@Joaquin McCurty Top Gun III perhaps?
@@davidcalvin4215 Top Gun: Duke
@@joaquinmccurty4762 yeah. They'd have to work around the F4s and USS Oriskany somehow though.
@@davidcalvin4215 hmm...maybe so. My grandfather was a Naval Aviator. One of the first enlisted. I'd have to do some research to get an idea of the time period.
There's a long-standing fan theory that Pete and Duke Mitchell are the descendants of one "Billy Mitchell" - look him up, considered one of the most ground-breaking (and insubordinate) Military officers in American aviation history.
3:49 Ton Cruise's voice is that of a little boy.
I've forgot how young he was in this movie. It sounds like he had barely past puberty.
Watch the movie Risky Business..talk about Tom Cruise looking young... LOL! I think that was the movie that gave him the big Hollywood break all actors hope for early in their acting careers....
He was underage in all the right moves so yeah he was maybe 20-21 here.
2:40 the music is so beautiful🫠
It must be awesome for Rooster to be able to watch these videos and see his old man in action.
There's a C-130 at Hong Kong airport, loaded with rubber dog s**t.......just needs a crew......
🤣🤣
goid firvítt
RIP Tony Scott "director" & Don Simpson "producer"
- Can you make 2 simple words sound scary???
- 0:18
Well that'll just about cover the flybys
Tom Skerritt is such a good actor --- he said that line with such despair and frustration in his voice LOL
I recently watched this with my best friend and we agreed that we wouldn’t be able to hold in our laugh because someone is getting yelled at and that guy spilling everything 😂😭
0:08 Crash!
0:09 God damnit!
0:10 That's twice!
Love this part.
I love the tower man being pissed off about mavericks fly by that was funny
I like how the commander gets down to brass tacks and nails. If you had to go into battle would you want him with you. That's what it's all about in the end.
amazing work from each actor
“Top Gun rules of engagement exist for your safety and for that of your team. They are not flexible, nor am I. Either obey them or you are history, is that clear?” Viper is clearly not the man to cross.
Especially if he can set you up as bait for Jester.
He’s an excellent commanding officer. Mature, understands his men, and his first concern is for their safety. Doesn’t micromanage, doesn’t labour points and communicates clearly. And he’s there for his men when they need him.
I have seen this movie trillions of times in my lifetime. And love it!! Maverick is fearless but doesn’t want too die! I love him soooo much!!!💗💗💗💗
Goose , definitely knows he's cooked,but you never not follow you're leader,even when you're 2nd
"We weren't below 10,000 for more than a few seconds." Ummm, Mav, the hard deck represents the GROUND, so you basically said, "we didn't crash for more than a few seconds...."
But didn't Jester go below the hard deck first? This would basically mean that Jester crashed before they would have.
The hard-deck means the minimum legal altitude. Not the ground
@@Whistfulthinking he meant it's the ground metaphorically
@@Whistfulthinking reading comprehension is key. I said it REPRESENTS the ground and if you would look it up, you would see I am, in fact, correct.
@@oldmanjim2376 No. The hard deck is not the ground sorry. I'm a figher pilot
Goose needs to tuck that chain in!! Viper wasn’t pay attention to him. He was locked in and focused on Maverick.
I feel more sorry for that poor Sailor.....probably a PN or YN assigned to do the admin stuff in the office who was just probably bringing coffee to some officer or Chief. Now he's going to have to get those whites dry-cleaned lol
That poor kid --- prolly just got out of boot camp a few days ago and trying to please the CO and he dumps a whole tray of coffee LOL
@@fredwerza3478 I would agree with you, but unless they are leaving boot camp as First Classes, I'd say this guy has been around awhile lol
Welcome to the Petty Officer Association, where you're considered the bitches of the Chief's Mess. Just bend over and take it dry. It may not be pleasant, but when you got those crows, you learn to "delegate tasks" to the lower enlisted personnel. Reminds me of my pals in the "E-5 Mafia", where no one fucked with you, and you could fuck with the "fresh meat", aka the newly selected E-4s.
Someone a few comments above suggested he may be Bob’s dad…I say hell yeah! That’s my head cannon for TG now!
The Sailor in question is a First Class Petty Officer (3 chevrons, paygrade E-6), and his Rating (Job) is Information/Systems Technician (IT) - taken together, he would be called "IT1" for short ("Eye-Tee-One"). Morever, he's been in the US Navy from between 8 and 11 years - you can tell because he has two "Hashmark" stripes on his left forearm (Each of those stripes represents 4 years - having TWO of those stripes means he has been in the Navy for 8 years, but NOT having three means he's been in the Navy less than 12 years).
FOr more context, this IT1 is only one rank under the "Senior Enlisted" rank of IT Chief-Petty-Officer ("ITC", Paygrade E-7), which is a big step-up in the US Navy (Even the Commanding Officer treads carefully in and around the private quarters of the Chiefs). I know a few ITCs who have deeper and more applicable knowledge, clearance, and ultimately "Need to know" than 99.999% of the people you'll find at Langley, Washington DC or Apple Inc, San Jose. Basically, this IT1 Sailor is actually a fairly senior member of the base staff - I would say only about 5% of the total staff on that base out-rank him (There are a LOT of Military rank E-3 to E-5 and Civilian GS paygrades, who comprise the technicians, ground crews, galley staff, etc).
Does it make sense that a relatively senior IT1 is making a coffee run?
A lot of people have made the joke that the answer is "No", but this is ofc ONLY a joke. Officers and Senior Enlisted make coffee runs for their shipmates all the time, and a First Class would ofc make runs as necessary. And while it is common for the Seniors to task their Juniors to do it, I can say I have done coffee and soda runs for my Junior Enlisted and Officers when appropriate.
So yes, it is perfectly realistic for this IT1 to be making a routine coffee run.
I forgot about that scene with him and Goose
best ever !! my TOp movie of all time...
Top gun 2 is a great movie and i love it..... but for reasons i don't know how to explain, i love this movie even more....
Viper ask jester, will you fly with him someday? And jester said "i don't know", because jester said he is a wildcard but indeed he want to fly with him. However, jester risking his life.... Maybe his career flying with him.
0:01 The commander had it!😄😄😄
If the answer to “if you had to go into battle, would you want him with you” is “I dont know, I just dont know,” then the correct answer is “No.”
My favorite scene in the movie.
Me too.
Why is it always hot'n sweaty? LoL
the music theme throughout top gun is and was so iconic. How do you match that? The 2nd one was extremely awesome yes but......didn't grab me with such iconic music in the background Like the 1st one did.
There are no rules of combat when you in the air in real life but you have to trust the man next to you and if they are reckless that can get you killed. So I see why he was a little upset lol..
rules of engagement exist for discipline and doctrine purposes, Top Gun is a training school and, therefore, all about discipline and the doctrine of air combat. When Viper is saying that the Hard Deck exists as a rule of engagement he means that it represents something you will likely face in actual combat situations, in this case the literal ground. The Hard Deck is set at an altitude of 10,000 AGL because it is to represent the literal ground level while still being at a high enough altitude that if something goes wrong during an exercise, you won't actually crash your plane.
The radio tower buzz being a "rule of engagement" is more of a "don't be an asshole to your peers" rule that goes with your point, if you've demonstrated time and again during routine sorties and training exercises that you're going to be an asshole, that's gonna have an impact on your career in some way
"I only hit the ground for a few seconds".
Watching this movie makes me wanna play ace combat on my gaming laptop.
I think that not having Viper and Jester in TG2 was a mistake. Both would have made a wonderful contribution to the movie.
Maverick visiting them like he visited Iceman, both Jester and Viper, especially Viper, made an impact on Maverick in TG1.
It would have been a nice touch.
Beyond that, I personally think that Viper's character in TG1 was one of the best portrayals of a Top Drawer Commanding Officer in a movie EVER!!!
@Doron Stauber you realize Viper was 85 and Jester was 70 when they fined TG2.
@@ObamaFromKenya I am aware of that, and Top Skerritt and Micheal Ironside would have made for excellent scenes in my opinion, just like the scene with Val Kilmer.
The scene with Viper at his home in TG1 was epic.
God knows that i really love the scene at Iceman's house in TG2 but like he said, Maverick visiting Viper's house was really Epic
This was so much better than the sequel
Top gun 2 was fantastic but this one a tad better imo !
I'm waiting for Mav to fly a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong.
and Goose at his next job being a truck driver.
I always found that question interesting.......if you had to go into battle would you want him to go with you?
yes mate😉
Yes. I know, Maverick is dangerous and unpredictable. But in combat, there are many things that are unpredictable and can go south quickly, hence sometimes there is a need for people who are unpredictable.
I Want Some Butts reminds me physically of Alf Stewart from Home & Away. Anyone else?
Maverick was used to getting roasted and shouted at. Viper didn't shout, he showed his disgust at their misconduct by not even looking at them while reprimanding them-Maverick is an O-3, Viper is an O-5 and they've defied rule's that were in place to keep people safe.
Maverick was given a simple choice: Obey the school's rules of engagement or he would be out of the Navy . Maverick chose to obey the rules of engagement!
0:00- 0:20 I didn't want to be Chief Astronaut Daniel Brandenstein getting chewed out by executives of a major airline after Astronaut Dave Walker buzzed one of their aircraft with his T-38.
Michael Ironside was great as the voice of Darkseid
Fun fact, the phone calls were real. Finance dept was next door. Those were calls inquiring about their travel vouchers..
Hero scenes!!!
Darkseid and Dallas are scolding the Mummy.
Goose was right maverick you left him down
Did the air boss outrank both viper and jester? I’ve always wondered that as to why they just took the guy screaming at them.
I think he's the same rank as viper.
Number 1 top gun is still the best❤❤❤❤
I think Jester is taking Maverick beating him far too personally. Maverick may be a cowboy but he's also a good pilot so Lt. Cmdr Heatherly would be safe. To succeed in combat, you must first have faith in your wingman!!
I thought LCDR Heatherly went pretty easy on him considering? Sure, Mav broke the ROI, but he still smoked a highly decorated flight instructor’s ass, in a far less agile, speedy and maneuverable F-14?
At the end of the day, Jester would probably take a “wild card” like Maverick, since he is unpredictable, when the enemy likely has the Navy Fighter Pilot handbook memorized?
Jester is taking things professionally. If Jester takes ANYTHING personally in this scene, it's that he and his CO (Viper) just got chewed out by the Airboss with everybody on staff listening in (and the Airboss is justified in doing so), due to Mavericks lack of discipline. There's also a very pratical reason why you don't do flybys without the Tower's permission. There's often a LOT going on at any Airport or Airbase, not just planes being landed or flying holding patterns. To use just one example, at any time, there might be work crews and technicians aloft working on radar, communications array, the roofing, etc. Even assuming the flyby shockwave didn't break any equipment or cause workers aloft to fall to their deaths, something as simple as a tool being dropped on someone's head dozens of feet below them, or blown off causing delays and breakage, or blown into the equipment causing objects to wedge themselves into equipment crevices and chassis, etc....a lot can go wrong when a pilot ignores the Orders of an Airboss who's basically saying "We're busy here and unprepared for a big Tomcat sending massive pressure waves across every working surface of this airfield full of people handling fuel, explosives, high-voltage electrical equipment, etc, worth billions of dollars".
Maverick will soon learn that his way is not the best way. When Viper goes up with Jester, they decide to teach him the perils of being a loose cannon. Viper breaks with Jester knowing Maverick will hunt him down. Whilst Hollywood is manoeuvring to take out Jester, Maverick should have been providing cover in case Viper snuck up on Hollywood.
After spotting Viper, Maverick peeled off and pursued him. Viper spotted Maverick and goaded him to with " Come on keep coming, come around, come around. There you go, there you go!" Jester closes in as Maverick pursues Viper ; Viper twisting his jet,Maverick sticking like glue. However Jester knowing Maverick is in the midst of target fixation springs the well laid trap apply missile lock "killing" Maverick and Goose. It was a great day to learn; NEVER LEAVE YOUR WINGMAN. Maverick also had to endure the worse sanction of his fellow fighter pilots no longer trusting him. Aviation is about trust, and he's lost their trust. It's going to take alot to get it back.
Love
You took it, and broke a major rule of engagement. Then you broke another with that uh circus stunt flyby.
What’s the song in the background of maverick and gooses talk
"Still Awake/Can't Sleep"
czcams.com/video/czrCupyIoEI/video.html
It’s called “Can’t Sleep”.
Insubordination,Nuff Said
Back when you could see how short Tom Cruise actually is
Great foreshadowing
1:47 ❤
2:53 he actually really looks like Charlie Sheen here.
Charlie Sheen's character on Hot Shots was based on Cruise's Maverick.
You do realize Topper Harley is a spoof of Maverick, right?
Fuck I thought the same thing!!!😂😂
i swear everyone in this film is sweating profusely at all times apart from viper, i wonder if this was a intentional decision by the director to maybe depict viper as a "cool calm and collected" leader
He got you, didn't he?
👍🤩
2:05 "His bittner support says it all." What is a bittner support?
Its " He's fitness report says it all...he's a wildcard " 👍
thank you @@tinastout7661
The sequel was awesome - but didn’t have any scenes like this
Strawberry is flipped out on one of his Vietnam trips
Funny scene lol
I want some butts!
It had its moments with the coffee spill (felt bad for the PO1) and Goose's interest in going to truck driving school.
I WANT SOME BUTTS --- I used to say that in high school in the 80's whenever I got pissed at a friend of mine LOL
BOOM!!!
Guess that flyby wasn't such a big hit huh?
in real dog fight is no rule, it's pilot..
Is coffee always getting knocked over?
yes it is fly buy tiwer ⁴00 kñotß
Me going into work today I only reversed for a second 😅 truck driving same telling off probably almost as dangerous on uk roads 👍
Yes sir
0:08
What the hell happened to Tom Skerritt?
Alien was in '79. 7 years before this. He looked 35 there. Here he looks 50-55!
Well he was 46 in Alien but still.
Did he lost weight and skin remained untight? Is he a heavy smoker?
Was that mavericks barracks room?
I think it's probably military housing, but not barracks. But either a house or apartment.
Pedros cousin Strawberry
It would have been a MUCH better movie if Maverick got his Leavenworth time under the UCMJ.
#TruckMasters
Hauling rubber dogshit for a living!