Which Car Would YOU Take? 2023 BMW M2 vs Toyota Supra vs Nissan Z Review
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- 2023 BMW M2 vs 2023 Toyota Supra vs 2023 Nissan Z review by The Straight Pipes. The BMW M2 is putting down 453 horsepower and 405 lb-ft of torque from a Twin Turbo 3L Inline 6 cylinder. The "Is that a Supra?" is putting down 382 horsepower and 368 lb-ft of torque from a Turbo 3L Inline 6 cylinder. The Nissan Z is putting down 400 horsepower and 350 lb-ft of torque from a Twin Turbo 3L V6 cylinder. At $79,600 CAD for the BMW M2, $70,630 CAD for the Toyota GR Supra, and $59,448 for the Nissan Z, which one would you take?
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0:00 Hype Intro
0:28 What this video is
0:57 Horsepower & Torque
1:27 BMW M2 vs Nissan Z
2:16 Best manual transmission
3:24 Best looking car
5:13 Best exhaust sound
6:36 Best wheels
7:19 Which one we prefer based on looks
7:48 Best ride quality / Cliché corner M2 vs Z
9:11 Switching cars - Supra vs Nissan Z
9:30 Launch control
10:13 Best handbrake
10:37 Cliché corner Supra vs Nissan Z
11:09 Interior seat comparison
12:02 Toyota Supra vs Nissan Z
12:20 Interior space
13:40 Rev matching
14:00 Traction control
14:35 Drive modes
15:14 Gauge clusters
15:50 Cliché corner Supra vs Nissan Z again
16:27 Switching cars - Supra vs M2
17:10 Launch control
17:53 Interior spaciousness
18:17 Infotainments CarPlay
18:32 Cliché corner Supra vs M2
19:18 Interior features
20:48 Supra vs M2
21:05 Power to weight ratio
21:33 Limited slip differentials
21:49 Watch savagegeese
22:05 Best engine
22:42 Best drifting / donuts / skids
23:44 Prices
24:13 Which one we would pick (don't just skip to this part)
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sad those 3 not selling in my country :) turkiye problems...
@@uidr why Turkey problems?
0:00 Hype Intro
0:28 What this video is
0:57 Horsepower & Torque
1:27 BMW M2 vs Nissan Z
2:16 Best manual transmission
3:24 Best looking car
5:13 Best exhaust sound
6:36 Best wheels
7:19 Which one we prefer based on looks
7:48 Best ride quality / Cliché corner M2 vs Z
9:11 Switching cars - Supra vs Nissan Z
9:30 Launch control
10:13 Best handbrake
10:37 Cliché corner Supra vs Nissan Z
11:09 Interior seat comparison
12:02 Toyota Supra vs Nissan Z
12:20 Interior space
13:40 Rev matching
14:00 Traction control
14:35 Drive modes
15:14 Gauge clusters
15:50 Cliché corner Supra vs Nissan Z again
16:27 Switching cars - Supra vs M2
17:10 Launch control
17:53 Interior spaciousness
18:17 Infotainments CarPlay
18:32 Cliché corner Supra vs M2
19:18 Interior features
20:48 Supra vs M2
21:05 Power to weight ratio
21:33 Limited slip differentials
21:49 Watch savagegeese
22:05 Best engine
22:42 Best drifting / donuts / skids
23:44 Prices
24:13 Which one we would pick (don't just skip to this part)
The Nissan Z for me still a little better than BMW M2.
Can we talk about how The Straight Pipes does "in separate car, back and forth" conversations better than ANYONE else on CZcams? No scratchy sounding walkie talkies, no listening to the other guy's voice coming through some kind of speaker, just clear, natural conversation. I don't know if this is an effect achieved in editing, or some other CZcams black magic, but I now get mad when I listen to other car channels have their hosts talk awkwardly through walkie talkies while driving.
And we don’t have the other host hiding out of frame in the passenger seat 😜 we’re actually having a real conversation not following a script
yes, you can talk about it. i'll allow it
They use AirPods thats why they can hear each other and we donˋt
ok now ur just ragging on carwow.
Yet hate they constantly looking at each other while driving, not safe.
You could tell within the first 5 minutes, beard was going for the Supra. The man is clearly in love
Classic beard
It's the best medium between them. On the one hand, the BMW might be the fastest, but it's hella expensive and hella ugly and driving experience-wise it still loses in certain values to the Supra. The Z is on the other handcheapest, but that cheapness feels in a lot of aspects. So yeah, the Supra wins.
I dont blame him
@@whotf888 agreed. The M2 from what I hear is also more sluggish feeling on the low-end and shifter. There is something off about the looks. I respect that they went for a bold look but it kinda backfired. Maybe it’s something that I will appreciate more in the future
And I could tell glasses was gonna go Z
I'd choose the Z - it has a retro look that I like and the interior seems simple to use, except for those seat controls.
Same, those classic looks, great manual transmission that is essentially a CD009 on steroids, easy to work on, and the upgrade parts are going to be epic, and since it is essentially a greatest hits album from the past Zs and Q60 the aftermarket is already there. Z1 and SPL Parts are going to turn the RZ34 into a road warrior! Out of the three the Z is the only JDM car also so I'm pretty biased there also! The Z will also be the better looking car 30 years from now, just like the Z32. It will be interesting to see which car sells better, the Z won in the '90s.
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I have a 76 280z and to me the new Z is very very disappointing and ugly af.
I like its looks, too...and the option of three pedals on the floor. Plus, no reliance on German "reliability."
Waiiiit a minute...we all voted for the other Thumbnail..🤕
We’re changing to that one at noon
Edit: ok real answer. Anything the comments suggest, does better it we do the opposite ❤️I’m sorry
@@TheStraightPipes I don't know what to believe in anymore
@@TheStraightPipes I hate CZcams for encouraging that
It must have been Yuri-rigged
@@MMOchAForPrez wait what does yt make them do?
I’ve had my 8sp Supra for a year and a half and absolutely love it! It’s been spectacular. An intake, turbo back exhaust and jb4 make things much more exciting. No, I don’t have TE37s, but the mod options are almost endless for the platform. Only negative in my eyes is the trunk. To make matters worse, if you pop the trunk as you’re getting out of the car and slam the door the hatch will re-latch itself
Oh, and the JBL stereo in the Supra is total garbage
@@johnmorrison8351 put either prv or focal
I keep hearing people hear a lot of road noise inside the cabin
@@MrMlbfan6 Honestly, the mods I’ve done have made everything loud. I have Conti Extreme Contacts and have never been bothered by any road noise. My other vehicles always have exhausts or are trucks on all-terrains anyway, so maybe my standards are just different
@@johnmorrison8351 Agreed. I was very disappointed in the JBL system. I saw the speakers and built-in sub and thought I was in for a treat. Lol
I am M2 all day long. But they all are awesome IMO.
I can't help but love the Supra. I'm a bmw fanboy, so I guess it makes sense. I owned a mkiv as well. Looks of it have grown on me more and more.
Every time I see a supra on the street I'm blown away at how pretty they are
They are unique for sure. Though I would never go for yellow personally, yellow supras stand out a lot.
@@Ricardo-eg3wn and that’s a bad thing how? 😂 That’s like saying the R8 was just a Gallado with a body kit 💀
@@Johnnygga they wish they had a supra but they don’t so they bash it.
@@trevine33 😂😂😂No!
@@Wiggy321 yes 😭
I want the Z out of this group. Z, M2 Supra is how id list these personally. All are great though and i would like either one. But if i had a choice id choose the Z
Literally yesterday I searched for a comperasition between these 3 and here they are
Delivering the videos everyone's brain is thinking
Tbh I wish you would come up with something that no other car CZcamsrs even yourselves has ever done
@@SG22Why though? This is an important and relevant comparison that's basically guaranteed to bring in views; why shouldn't they do it?
@@howardbrandon11 well although seeing how the other CZcamsrs are bringing that quality in to the videos even though at the same time I don’t both yuri and Jakub to keep working hard I want them to take it easy
@@SG22no one has done this comparison lol
I have a 2023 A91 6MT (same one in this video) and I can confirm yes the transmission and feel is amazing. Even my wife has never missed a gear. I hope to pass it down to my 6 year in the future when he can drive and when we will all be in electric or flying cars.
Should've invited Jack B58 in this review as your 3rd driver 🤖
And Supra all the way.
He was busy being artificially intelligent
@@TheStraightPipeswhat about Tyler Hoover or Matt Farah?? Ohh wait.. Tyler just did a video with Doug DeMuro recently. I was gonna say Throttle House as well, but they're on a road trip in Arizona or Nevada.
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FITTY ATE
@@jonlosito2004 Holy crap, Hoovie and DeMuro in the same video, there's not a barf bag big enough...
I just took delivery of my zandvoort blue m2 2 days ago. The internet loves to hate this car but I have never had more compliments on a car in my life. And I truly love the car and that's all the matters
I'm one of the few people that loves how it looks. Currently driving a Supra and the local BMW just got a M2 in Zandvoort Blue. Really want to see what it looks like in black.
@@Anthony-hd3yl I haven't seen this spec yet but black with the cognac interior could be really nice too...
This video showed me that the best new-ish sports cars are the M2(Comp or CS) and the Gr86/BRZ. 🔥
For me Supra, I think it looks the best, and I love me some good B58 action. Funny thing I noticed is how the reaction and acceptance to the Supra changed over time, went from being the most hated sports car to everyone agreeing it’s a pretty damn good car, an overachiever in its segment for sure
That's why the internet is so wrong in so many things. Remember when they first hated AirPods?
I was not happy when the leaks came out and they all said it’s a Z4, and was super skeptical. I was in love the second it was revealed, and 3 years later got my own and I adore it.
Thats because the Z finally came out and took ugly af and most disappointed sports car out
It's nice how even though still generally agreed it's a disappointing Supra(since it's a BMW wearing a Toyota dress), and looks only a mother could love, reviews have been able to look past that and acknowledge that it's a fun driving BMW
M2 is cleaner. The Supra is full of fake vents, weird bulges, and BMW's bottom shelf interior. This video should've used the M2 Comp
I love the M1 M2 buttons in my M. It's an F series so not as advanced as these are, but it is so nice to have.
12:06 probably one of the coolest sounds i’ve heard on this channel
M2 clearly sounds the best from outside 5:20
I'm Totally Agree The BMW M2 Sounds Really Good
Only when revving it. On a roll, Supra sounds better.
Agree although I don't really love it
The Z hands down. I prefer the clean looks of the Z, and the fact the aftermarket is already bursting with parts for it. If I just wanted to buy it and forget it picking one of the BMWs would be an option. But it seems like the bare bones 6spd Sport trim was made for folks who can't leave well enough alone like myself. Once the markups have melted away the price difference between the Z and Zupra being spent on some quality parts will really liven up the Z. I actually prefer the cleaner analog interior of the Z, I was never a big fan of how busy the European interiors are.
The Z for the price even taking out dealer markup, just MSRP, Is a flop imo. Really disappointed with how it turned out
@@coltoncaskey5781You can find them with only a 5k markup. I just looked at 6 on cargurus.
I didn't like the supra when it first came out but it's definitely growing on me, especially now that it's a manual.
I knew from the get that the Supra was going to be far and away the best car. Toyota has been on such a hot streak with their sports cars lately. They just get it.
Toyota? B58 ZFH 8 Speed, pretty much every single component is BMW lol. The pratical supra is the Xdrive M340i, the best performance car on the market for the $
Homie, it’s literally a BMW from the ground up 😂
@@Ruxl21 but it’s Toyota-fied which means everything has been brought up to Toyota standard which is quite a bit higher than most car companies.
@@TheRidersChoice Toyota brought it up to better standards though and designed the car and chassis
@@gryphon123456 lmfao!
I just picked up a 45th anniv. GR Supra, last week. I chose the auto trans for two reasons:
1. My MX5 Miata has a manual transmission and is very light.
2. Living in a big city means getting caught in traffic jams are unavoidable. Also, more people can experience the car, and on rare occasions, can use it even if they can't drive a manual.
fantastic review
The power of these cars ,very impressive i still will go for the M2 its a great drive when fitted with ps100 victor racing stat wing, will like to see a review of that .
I don’t mind the look of the m2, it’s grown on me quite a bit and I think it looks aggressive. It’s also the most usable as a daily.
Precisely. The new M2 is a beast of it's own.
Yeah these guys and throttle house guys are on an m2 smear campaign for some reason
@@trentmeister6001 It's only because the car is hideous.
@@shadynas7y atrocity
@@shadynas7y compared to the Z? No way, that thing is butt ugly inside and out
The supra is so much better looking in person than on video. On video its Z, bmw, supra for me. If this was my only car...id probably go bmw for the ability to put stuff in the back seat. If this was my second car, id probably go supra. If i already had a really good sports car, id go z.
Just saw an M2 in real life and it's the opposite, looks worse in real life. Supra def looks the best in real life to me with the Z almost tied with it
@@Sickwitit18 I like how the m2 looks in pictures/video. But haven't seen one in real life yet.
YOOOOOO
shout out to the editor for these transitions in the drifting comparison at the end. that was very smooth it should get more attention
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For the money the Supra…..hands down.
The first sports car I ever rode around in belonged to my best friend's mother. A blue 1973 240Z. The new Z looks enough like it that it would always be my choice.
The other thumbnail (I guess the one after noon today) is far superior!
This video is great, but consumers don't group potential car purchases by cylinder count. True cost including dealer markup and dealer service level are also major factors. It would be good to see a comparison between manual cars coupes with back seats in the future. (Mustang Dark Horse, M2, etc.)
Sorry about your camera, boys. It was a good camera and it died doing what it loved. Keep up the awesome content!
When will you guys host another meet up? I unfortunately missed the cars and coffee meet 😢
Since the first time I saw the supra I knew I would buy it. Still getting my money out of my FBO 335i but I think I should test drive it.
One suggestion please review the sound systems please and thanks.
I'm having the f87 and the new Z rn and just ordered the g87 one month ago… I need to reevaluate the purchase and decide which two I'm going to sell & one to stay… Good video！
Supra all the way. I'm on my second GR Supra. The first one got totaled by a crazy left turning greenlight lady at 50 mph. I knew I was going to get another with out a doubt. They are hard to find still. Great video!
"Did you say supra's are hard to find?" Where do you live?? I'm in the great state of Texas, and their literally everywhere!! Dealer lots new and used have plenty of them.
@@busalove2013Here in Southern Cali, Supras are rare, partially because many dealerships are getting only one every three months.
Supra won me over comparing against the Z. Dont regret it at all. Thought about upgrading from the Supra to the M2 a few months ago but honestly, the Supra is so solid with 5k in mods it smokes almost everything it goes up against. Going to hold onto the supra for another 3 or 4 years and that point probably take the leap to a 911 turbo or GT3 if I can find one.
You must have missed the new M2 with dp, and stage 2 tune putting out 720whp. The dp and tune gave +255whp. We aren't getting that with our b58. Like not even close lol.
Yeah the s58 is a different level but I think I’m content with the Supra until I make that big leap to the P car
@@yizzer89 nice. P car will be another level too
Just wait till the Nismo Z comes out..550-600hp..
@@keckchan7156😂 The Nismo will come no where near 500hp, let alone 600. The 370 Nismo had 350hp. The new Nismo will also be sold with an automatic only.
Would love to see a Z and Q60 Red Sport video.
Please do this with more car classes!! Like x5, gle, q5
It would be interesting to see these compared to similar priced muscle cars. They have different customer bases but I'm sure plenty of people would switch between them if one is objectively better
Immediately thought this, as I'm a Mustang GT owner (6 speed). Seems like they're all in a very similar place.
These 3 cars are definitely appealing to some of the Mustang and Camaro buyers, considering those two cars are more sports car than pony car nowadays.
Won’t sway the hardcore Dodge fans though. Dodge has their own niche and Ford/Chevrolet both fell off a while ago.
muscles cars like the chevy cam and mustang gt would give them real problems their sport cars now
Not interesting at all. We all know the outcome 😂
I have the 2022 bmw m240 (same engine and trans the supra has, so same hp) 382hp and 369 trq. I've raced mustang gt on a dig and roll, spnaked it on the dig, and we were head to head on the roll. Also have raced 392 charger and challengers, they lost at everything. And a camaro ss which lost the dig. The supra weighs way less than my car with the same power.
No doubt that it’s good, but the Z is so forgettable. People hyped it so much because they were upset about the Supra and it ended up getting walked. Then everyone started damage controlling trying to be the “realistic” enthusiast talking about “Oh well performance isn’t everything, it’s about how it makes you feel” like cut it out. Everyone in the comments continuously lives for spec sheets, bench racing and talking about “gapplebees” now all of a sudden they act like it doesn’t matter.
Well said
We live in an age where most cars are either man-Karen appliances or organic works of art that you can really enjoy
@@Big.W. Which are the organic works of art?
You’re reading hundreds of comments and think they all are the same people? Z is way better of a road trip Japanese muscle car and that’s enough lol I’m not racing towards the next red light
@@ktakashismith Mazdas, Porsches, Ferraris, that kind of thing.
Thanks for speaking truth about the BMW carbon bucket seats! I had them in my M4 Comp and they were torture devices that caused me to sell the car. Great comparison, fellas!
Oh man, really? I optioned one with the bucket seats. Starting to think I should change it before it goes into production.
@@kulebrero i wonder if you can take them out and sell it for a bit?
I’m the exact opposite I think they’re the best part of the car.
I’m 6’3 230
Not to mention future resale
Loveee the thumbnail 👌👌
Boy this video is lit 🔥
I’m hoping for the Z to be more accessible here because currently in Florida there are only The Protoz and they’re going for 70-80K at dealerships, I’d like to trade in my Civic and go for that Z in a beautiful blue or Grey. The blue interior is honestly beautiful
So what I did was just research online via Edmunds and truecar and saved/requested contact dealerships around the country. At that point I started taking notes on markups around the country (I live in Ohio). Every dealership I contacted had a markup, the highest being $25k and lowest $5k. Im also referring to the performance trim. I'd say the average mark up is $10-$15k across the 20 dealerships I talked to. I was originally not going to pay over MSRP but settled for a $2,000 markup which I couldn't pass up. I ended up picking it up in nashville which was about a 5.5 hour drive. It was a fun little quest to pick it up. Hope this helped!
@@gibbyboy66 agreed.
Cargurus. Around 55-60k. Just have it shipped.
Can’t wait to buy my Supra once these interest rates get a bit lower 😅
They way everyone loves the shifter feel in the supra.. theres no way I could buy either of the others. Its all about driving feel
Love this mix of cars!!!
I love all 3 but would choose the m2 just because of the rear seats nothing else
It’s so sad how the Z just sounds like a vacuum cleaner
Sounds incredible with aftermarket exhaust
I don’t understand the love for older VQ cars either, to be fair. Hate that noise.
@@kc510 one of the best build jdm cars of all time. Faster than a cayman on the track. They can be built for 800 hp. They look incredible. Sound amazing with the right setup like motordyne shockwave exhaust and CA intake. Forced induction sound even sexier.
Nice cars
Love this.
I would take previous gen M2 over new one any day, 440i over Supra any day, and like the Z but would take either of my alt options above over it any day.
Woah, what happened with thumbnail? I'm pretty sure we all voted for the other one
Can you guys do the new M2 vs RS3 vs mercedes A45amg!
Amazing video, my Z appeared in the video!
Definitely cool an amazing video like this!
Great meeting you
3:49 Whooooo brought a Fiat Multipla to the meet? That's awesome! How the heck did they get that car to Canada? Those are already rare in Europe cause they were just cheap cars from decades ago that people used up and then scrapped but to see one in North America outside the lane motor museum is wild.
I feel the M2 is not in the same class as the other two. To me it’s closer to a Camaro and Mustang.
The M2 is a daily type of car with a sporty feel. The Supra and Z are proper sport cars with enough comfort for some people to live with daily.
The M2 is a beast of it's own.
What are you smoking? The M2 by far the best performing in every category…
When Jakub said "B58" like that, I swear I could hear the roar of a silverback gorilla somewhere in the distance...
Somewhere, Jack is eating a banana.
very nice reviews
A few years ago I spotted a pre production, wrapped Supra on the autobahn with a license plate from Munich (bmw)
I'm taking the Z, all day. Pure Nissan baby
I saw a new M2 for the first time in real life yesterday. I was severely let down by the looks 🤮
I agree, I miss the old m2‘s like 2018
But the idrive was shit lol the new idrive with the digital display is a step up for sure
@@cormaro13 who cares? (Well obviously you but) as long as I have music and some average Apple CarPlay support I’m chillin.
@@davidshaw164 you don't care about the suspension of the car you're driving ??? Thats a pretty stupid statement lol so you're saying it could have damage control arms and falling off sway links and you just care about the music ? 😂🤡
@@cormaro13 where tf did you find suspension in what I said? You were talking about idrive and I was talking about Apple CarPlay…
your delusional.
@ThestraightPipes for the Nissan I was a service advisor and there was a recall for the Manuel transmissions if they grind to replace them that was released around 4 months ago
Hahaha because of us maybe
@TheStraightPipes funny thing is like holy shit they talked about it in the video I was mind blown 😂
1-for race supra
2-for upgrade and sound twin turbo z400
3-for drift m2
what lol
Man even the 400z looks good next to the m2
Objectively it might not be the best, but the Z is stunning and so true to the lineage of the previous generations. It was always about being affordable, and couple that with the fact they arent selling it in the UK; I want one bad. Great vid guys
Wired apple car play is better because you can watch videos on your phone?
nice editing. not jarring or dizzying.
Two BMWs and a Nissan. :)
HE SAID IT!!!
nice joke. dying of laughter 😐
@@lolheads579r Your sarcasm aside, thats because its not a joke. In 20 years we will be stripping z4's for zUpra parts 😂
M2 all day long plus the brakes are insane good !!
That M2 got a little loose on that corner, I caught that!
Much Love
obviously, I am biased since I am a A90 owner. But the Supra has probably the best body lines and natural wide body compared to the Z and M2. Since it goes wide, narrow, and wide again to the back. Giving it a more aggressive wide body illusion compared to the less aggressive M2 and Z's design. I also prefer the rear end of the supra wayyyyyyy more than the front end LOL. Also, I thought it wasn't fair that the exhaust compassion was only in normal mode. Even though the Z doesn't have a valved exhaust, still would have been nice to hear.
The exhaust comparison was in everyone’s loudest modes. We even made it more fair to the Z because it doesn’t let you rev above 4000 rpm in neutral or clutch in. So jakub figured out putting it into 2nd with the clutch in let’s you rev to redline.
@@TheStraightPipes I think that was the confusing part because the Supra sounded very quiet if that was sport mode. I was wondering where the burbles were. Maybe it was tested without the car being warmed up.
I 100% agree Kenny, the Wide - Narrow - Wide really accentuates the wideness of the Supra.
Supra may have sounded quiet because it was too loud. The way cameras try to keep audio from peaking can really muffle loud sounds.
@@KennyHann I believe the MT Supra’s exhaust is a bit more muted compared to the auto. As a Supra owner as well I thought the same thing
@@KennyHann In the manuals, if you get really close to red line it won't burble. If you rev to like 5k-6k tho, it will burble and crackle like crazy. you also get burbles from 1000-2200 rpm and between 2200 and 4800 you get little burbles so yeah. also side note, the supra pulls from the z pretty good lol
Man that Z looks good in blue...
It looks best in red
The 2020 Supra sounds better stock than the 2021.22,23 it seems like they took all the crackles and pops away
Great video! For me, it is the Supra or Z with a slight nod going to the Supra. I am sure the inevitable Z NISMO edition with sharpen the soft edges of the Z. That BMW just looks ugly. The last gen of the M2 looks so much better. With all that said, I am just glad in 2023 we are still getting these incredible cars in RWD and 6-speed manuals. Have to give props to Nissan for giving us a sports car with so much value for the money and I have to give props to Toyota for making a better manual than BMW using BMW's own parts.
I'm taking the M2 which I ordered a few days ago. I should get her in early July to replace my RS3. Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!
Reigniting my interest in the Z. I honestly thought it was over with reviewers saying it's no contest to the Supra and with dealers/supply leading to price gouging. I mean it's still unobtainable but maybe...maybe. Definitely needs some aftermarket stuff, but hey it's cheaper
Cheaper?? Are you sure about that? The Z has some of the highest mark-ups I've seen on any car.
The Z costs about 60k taxes in for the Sport version and 70k for the performance, and that's without the markups. Dealers are selling them 5k above MRSP.
At those price points, the supra would be a better buy, or even a used M2C.
The Z drives like a 370z with a bodykit. Go test drive one.
@@lenspls if you're referring to the States then that's not true. MSRP is MSRP - 53k Performance, 42k Sport. The mark-ups I'm seeing is 20k more. Might as well buy a Corvette.
@@porfiriato84 Or a used (not abused) GT-R.
I'm just going to wait and pick up a 6spd Sport in rosewood metallic when the markups have died off, then give it the SPL Parts, Z1, NISMO, AMS tuner treatment, for the price difference between this an a Zupra (I do all my own work, pressing bushings, engine rebuilds and all, so it will just be parts cost), yep they can keep their extended warranty!
yo you guys should include weight in the hp and tq section
End of the year I'll be ready to purchase an M2. I can't wait
The new M2 looks like a scion TC. That's not a good thing when you're paying that much money. Supra easily wins between these 3 if you don't need backseats. And overall what you get for your money in the used market, I think last gen M2 takes the crown. However, best bang for your buck that I've been comparing to last gen M2: 2016-2018 camaro 2SS 1LE.
Idk how it looks like a Scion TC and I had one for 8 years
I think the Supra looks a hell of a lot more like a scion than m2 rofl
I don’t understand why everyone hates the m2 appearance. I think it’s wicked looking and I appreciate the boxy nature. Such an improvement from what they’ve been doing.
JDM fan boys in comparison to European
What if they were all the same price which would you pick
9:30 The amount of pressure the driver applies to the accelerator is launch control.
I like the price and the simplicity of the Z. You can convert the Z to wireless Carplay/Android Auto with a dongle.
And a few simple suspension modes with tighten things up in the Z for less than the price difference between that and the Zupra.
i wanted a manual supra but i have kids and where i live manual supras are really hard to get and are ridiculously marked up. i ended up buying a manual f87 m2 competition.
Hopefully the upcoming 2024 m2 cs will look much better and improved than the m2 itself and the m4 CSL and m3 cs
The new M5 looks amazing, along the same lines as the Z4. I hope it will be the design language going forward, whoever came up with the other recent BMW designs needs to be beaten with the burnt ugly stick they used to drawn them.
So who wants to sell me a Z proto edition?
Man if only the Z could sound good
It can....see the aftermarket
It's front looks like a bug. Super ugly only the rear looks amazing
I would love to see a race between those 3 cars
They’ll never do it, because the M2 will blow both away, and they hate bmw.
@@taylormorise Well BMWs that weren't tuned by Toyota at least.
Legend has it, TopGear digitally removed rain on every episode.
for me last choice will be nissan because of the quality i have patrol and altima they are so bad more than land rover on the quality , so to be safe for me i will chose supra and then M2
I can't get beyond the fact the Z is just a refreshed 370Z with more power. No wonder its the cheapest. I don't like the rear because it looks 20 years old. The front? Nope.
As for the Supra, you can't ding it on visors if the roof line works as a visor. Plus the roof line really looks good and lets get real, nobody goes duck hunting in a Supra, so you can see what you need to see out the side. I think the price difference between the Z and Supra is worth it in. You comparing a modern interior and beautiful exterior to something that's 20 years old. The better transmission and shifter almost makes up the difference on it own.
I'm also hesitant because it's an open deck engine.
It's more like an evolution of a 350Z (300ZX if you look really hard, especially at the rear chassis and suspension layout), with a front end from the '70s and rear from the '90s, motor from a Q60, and interior as spartan and purposeful as an '80s car. But yet, when they put everything together, it's just a timeless affordable turbo touring car, and just showcase of Nissan over the decades. I'm sure a future NISMO version will have a sportier look and ride, and the Z aftermarket has always been strong, just like the BMW one, so it will be interesting to see how the Z and Z4 coupe will evolve over the years. 30 years from now it will look just as clean and classic as the Z32 and S30 look today, for folks that like that sort of thing!
What's this new modle nissan C?
i'll take a 2022 veloster N instead..... but hard to find one now they're discontinued.
Definitely Z!!!!!!