I mained Minsitthar before it was cool and let me tell you, his wave clear is infinitely better and I'm afraid he'll be so used now that the novelty of being a Minsi main will fade away.
Bro let me tell you. In myanmar server,Every match i play the enemy always pick minsithere in both classic or rank.He is not op but people says his second skill is better than franco 's hook since it can pull multiple hero. The moment you get hook by minsither it all gameover. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@tauttunlin9117 bro I was getting matched against minsithar recently and I didn't know what to expect since I had never been against him before in my 5 years of playing. And the fucking range on that pull left me flabbergasted. It goes much further then the animation says it does which lead to a lot of raging on my part.
the novelty will be gone, i was like that before they changed wanwan and now they completely destroyed her and everyone picks her and everyone bans her
I feel like minsi is a fighter with abilities of a tank Just his second skill is very good for fighting against bulky exp laners And i guess because of his abilities he can also act as a frontliner when there is a support or a dmg roamer
Its a good fighter now. Woudnt use him as a roamer cause he deals more dmg than before and being down in gold will make him squishy. Deff Exp or jungle.
@@kagetsku1309 you're right but on the bright side, his hook is still avoidable, his 2th skill has some weakness, and he's easy to counter, so I would say he's on par with heroes like dyrroth
As per Betosky's suggestion to try roam Saber, I'd tried it out before and he's pretty good in pickoffs because of the Dire Hit damage, helping you in killing non-tanky enemies. I always use Execute as my spell for early kills while I wait for the Dire Hit to become available. As for the gameplay, it's tough using Saber if you're not level 4 because you can't burst anyone yet and you cannot gain gold from minion waves if they're occupied by your teammates. Because of that, I have to stick to my allies to get the assist gold needed to built my first core item, and get some solo kills here and there. As always, Antique Cuirass punishes Saber very much so if you have a magic damage hero in your team, let them initiate the damage by poking them until the target's HP is low enough for Saber to one-shot them.
As a support minsi main, I’d say his revamp is way worse at supporting, I agree he is so much better as an exp laner but there are some things that make me prefer his old version, mainly the immediate stun and speed boost of his second skill, his current stun is a lot harder to reach without ultimate and not to mention how much they increased its cd
Agreed, as a support minsi I relied on his instant stun combo for control and to protect my carries. His damage output is awesome as is the passive replacement but the stun/shield will be missed.
the old minsi roamer is a better franco for backliners. most people dont even know minsi's spear targets the furthest hero . and most backliners dont even need to be stunned for a long time
I would say that this Minsi relies more on farming or levelling up now than him being used as a roamer before. His only downside is how easy it is for him to get behind especially in high rank games but is a beast when fed!
Although his passive and revamped 2nd skill gave him more firepower, but i do still prefer the old second skill for the stun effect. Also the casting animation of the ult seemed kinda slower to me. Perhaps i must try more with him . My Minsitthar 680 matches with 58% wr mostly tank role
@@Hanzolo. I tried using hp based tank build on him recently, it has decent dmg and health regen because of his passive. Would recommend using this if you have a good connection with your mid laner, you won't get behind and it's easy to snowball your enemy even if your ult's not yet available or on cd, especially if they're not that mobile heroes.
Minsi is really good tbh, his 1st skill is superior to franco's hook especially now that his 1st could pull multiple heroes. His first is faster which means he could hook franco before franco could hook him
@@suffering9481 its mainly golden staff and dhs but ppl add corrosion scythe to add activate golden staff passive faster also having 2 defense items is pretty okay
Beto you should try Freya's adjustment as well. It's quite good atm especially when playing as the jungler albeit the super nerfed damage on early game
I suggest you use windtalker on him cause his ult can proc item effects, therefore proc-ing windtalker passive 4 times which will help him increase his dmg, also the item attribute that adds mov speed is very helpful since his mov speed is so slow
His passive are encouraged him to build some hp based item, it just like arlott, go half tanky build then you would feel him very tanky (everytime the passive mark detonate recover 5% total hp+300hp and make the same damage to enemy, and his passive marking could mark 5 enemies)
Hey Betosky if you're planning to play him in the near future as a non-jungler, I recommend using inspire/fury or flicker because he can flicker hook like Franco now.
i think minsithar would be really good with a hibrid build with corrosion scythe war axe brute force thunder belt and malefic roar as the items in that order, maybe switch thunder belt for brute force depending on what you prefer
i love betosky and his gameplay is always great, i was hoping to see minsitthar in the exp lane (i know he said no one wants to jungle) instead of seeing a jungle role every single time (for other heroes too)
Saber as roamer is honestly really enjoyable you don't have to farm and since your roaming all of the enemy team is constantly scared of being ulted by saber
I havent played the new minsi but The only thing that doesnt sit right with me is the english voice change, i mean the new voice fits the default minsi With a younger tone but i really like his Gilded king with the old deep voice, also the royal guard shout when he ults !
Minsi is already good enough but the huge problem is Ult cant block some dashes. This new update made Minsi the strongest counter against super mobile heroes like ling or hayabusa. Tough or Warrior boots Windtalker Demon Hunter Sword Thunderbelt Oracle Immortality or Brute Force Chestplate Battle Spell Flicker for early and late Petrify for 1v1 or teamfights Vengeance against stronk heroes Recommend Minsi now and i will buy it next update hoping it doesnt get banned.
Hey Beto Love your vids, it really helped me improve my gameplay, I was wondering can you do a Vid of Roger & your rotation, plus he has a new revamped skin, hoping you play him soon, & Give me a shout out ❤
Saber roamer is possible, but it's really hard - especially in the early game. While in end game you can treat him like late-mid-game support. I've used him like that when there was no other option (i picked him and s5 choose second jg instead of roamer) and sometimes even win. Try building 1 offensive item as 3rd item and it should be fine.
There are certain conditions. You only pick him if the jungler is very squishy and your jungler or EXP laner is a bulky Tank or Fighter to make up for lost durability. Otherwise if enemy picks tanky junglers , just give up on trying to go for Saber roam.
Saber can works wonders if your team have physical damage heroes. Saber's passive can reduce physical defence and using his skill 1 u can reduce enemy's defence, making it easier for your team to finish them easily.
I've tried him a lot since the update, and it seems that the attack speed build has the highest damage output for him, and he is also so fun to play now
I preferred him before because I used to use him with tank build. I still have to try him with the tank build on revamp but I don’t think it will be the same
Saber is similiar to kadita when it comes to securing kills, its not a bad strategy to use him as a roamer and with just a few items, in the early game saber can easily pick up squishy enemies. Ofc a good marksman or mage will build some defence or immunity but any good saber player knows this and can easily counter them. Saber as a roamer is situational but when it works, it works really well.
I think if he’s played as a tank he could be pretty good, his first skill is kinda like an easier to land franco hook and his second is like a slightly worse lolita shield, I also think his ult just good for team fights
I remember i used to play old minsi as tank, and one time like 2-2.5 years ago i queded up in a duo with a friend and we played for 44 minutes, we won because of a well placed ult by me. Glad to see him being good now
I used to play minsi as support tank like franco with petrify, but now i can build atk items too, don’t know how much stronger he is now but he is definitely more fun to play, i am not used to him not having a stun on his 2nd skill tho
The moment the revamped came on official server, I auto lock him and played him in rank and classic and lemme say, I'm impressed with this new minsitthar. His hooks feelings longer for some reason, and his ult deals more damage plus stun. Best of all, the 2nd skill, yeah you can argue it's easily avoidable but in most case naaaa, if u fall into his combo mostly ur dead. It's very good for waveclear, it can attack tower faster and with range, also it benefits from attack speed items. I tried a mm build on him yesterday along with inspire, full dhs build plus since he's a fighter i also added war axe since he benefits from it. And damnn the result is insane, one combo, one kill, one combo one kill hahaha And remember, he can pull multiple enemies with his first skill, infact the whole enemy team altogether if they stick in one spot
Minsitthar inspire plus 2nd skill op But I feel like he is now more geared towards being a fighter rather than a semi tank like his previous which is kinda sad cos I play him solely to be an annoying meat shield. Why did they remove the stunt from his 2nd skill sed and his defensive capabilities seem to be weaker now?
I mained Minsitthar before it was cool and let me tell you, his wave clear is infinitely better and I'm afraid he'll be so used now that the novelty of being a Minsi main will fade away.
Bro let me tell you.
In myanmar server,Every match i play
the enemy always pick minsithere
in both classic or rank.He is not op
but people says his second skill
is better than franco 's hook since
it can pull multiple hero.
The moment you get hook by
minsither it all gameover.
😂😂😂😂😂
I main minsi too, and my friends are afraid of him being picked by enemy they ban my own hero so I'm sad
@@tauttunlin9117 bro I was getting matched against minsithar recently and I didn't know what to expect since I had never been against him before in my 5 years of playing. And the fucking range on that pull left me flabbergasted. It goes much further then the animation says it does which lead to a lot of raging on my part.
the novelty will be gone, i was like that before they changed wanwan and now they completely destroyed her and everyone picks her and everyone bans her
@@GodsDissapointment im just amazed u haven't batled misni once in 5 years
Minshitthar is so good in this current meta. His new passive make him so sustain
I feel like bulky hero’s in the exp are much better in the current meta
I feel like minsi is a fighter with abilities of a tank
Just his second skill is very good for fighting against bulky exp laners
And i guess because of his abilities he can also act as a frontliner when there is a support or a dmg roamer
"minshitthar"
@@Ilovetoticklepeoplestip he is so complicated.
Passive heal- fighter
Cc first skill and anti dash ult-tank
Second skill- kinda marksman
@@SoojinSeooonah, having dps is not a mm quality, he is off tank, a bruiser, he is fine, maybe numbers need a Nerf but he is just fine
In my opinion..he is a really good pick..not overpowered so to say...but a really good utility hero for me who can also deal huge tons of damage.
He is a little on the op side, he abuses windtalker and crit, 1 shot in the middle nearly kills me
Its a good fighter now. Woudnt use him as a roamer cause he deals more dmg than before and being down in gold will make him squishy. Deff Exp or jungle.
I don't understand... Why your comment... Is written like this.... And it's weirding me out .....
He is a diaster we 3 camping in bush and he got all 3 us then fkn ult we cant escape we lose that 25 min game we were winning
@@kagetsku1309 you're right but on the bright side, his hook is still avoidable, his 2th skill has some weakness, and he's easy to counter, so I would say he's on par with heroes like dyrroth
As per Betosky's suggestion to try roam Saber, I'd tried it out before and he's pretty good in pickoffs because of the Dire Hit damage, helping you in killing non-tanky enemies. I always use Execute as my spell for early kills while I wait for the Dire Hit to become available. As for the gameplay, it's tough using Saber if you're not level 4 because you can't burst anyone yet and you cannot gain gold from minion waves if they're occupied by your teammates. Because of that, I have to stick to my allies to get the assist gold needed to built my first core item, and get some solo kills here and there. As always, Antique Cuirass punishes Saber very much so if you have a magic damage hero in your team, let them initiate the damage by poking them until the target's HP is low enough for Saber to one-shot them.
As a support minsi main, I’d say his revamp is way worse at supporting, I agree he is so much better as an exp laner but there are some things that make me prefer his old version, mainly the immediate stun and speed boost of his second skill, his current stun is a lot harder to reach without ultimate and not to mention how much they increased its cd
Agreed, as a support minsi I relied on his instant stun combo for control and to protect my carries. His damage output is awesome as is the passive replacement but the stun/shield will be missed.
@@dutchnichols7233 but old ulti doesn't have cc mobility like the new one
@@pecalele still same tho
the old minsi roamer is a better franco for backliners. most people dont even know minsi's spear targets the furthest hero . and most backliners dont even need to be stunned for a long time
I would say that this Minsi relies more on farming or levelling up now than him being used as a roamer before. His only downside is how easy it is for him to get behind especially in high rank games but is a beast when fed!
Although his passive and revamped 2nd skill gave him more firepower, but i do still prefer the old second skill for the stun effect. Also the casting animation of the ult seemed kinda slower to me. Perhaps i must try more with him . My Minsitthar 680 matches with 58% wr mostly tank role
@@Hanzolo. I tried using hp based tank build on him recently, it has decent dmg and health regen because of his passive. Would recommend using this if you have a good connection with your mid laner, you won't get behind and it's easy to snowball your enemy even if your ult's not yet available or on cd, especially if they're not that mobile heroes.
Minsittar is good but im agree with you beto the scnd skill easy to avoid . Btw 2:48 why kimmy like that so funny😂
just because of u im learning every hero. i want to be like u one day ❤
Minsi is really good tbh, his 1st skill is superior to franco's hook especially now that his 1st could pull multiple heroes. His first is faster which means he could hook franco before franco could hook him
Did everyone forget that the crit build exists? Minsi can abuse the hell out of windtalker's passive with his ult
Yup. Tested it in advanced server, all guards can immediately proc it at once, its quite op
I guess people prefer trinity because it allows you more slots for defense items??? I don’t really know?
@@Sp3nz. windtalker and CS, then tank items is also a good choice to tank
@@Sp3nz. also, dont you also need 3 items for trinity?
@@suffering9481 its mainly golden staff and dhs but ppl add corrosion scythe to add activate golden staff passive faster also having 2 defense items is pretty okay
Beto you should try Freya's adjustment as well. It's quite good atm especially when playing as the jungler albeit the super nerfed damage on early game
I suggest you use windtalker on him cause his ult can proc item effects, therefore proc-ing windtalker passive 4 times which will help him increase his dmg, also the item attribute that adds mov speed is very helpful since his mov speed is so slow
His passive are encouraged him to build some hp based item, it just like arlott, go half tanky build then you would feel him very tanky (everytime the passive mark detonate recover 5% total hp+300hp and make the same damage to enemy, and his passive marking could mark 5 enemies)
every hero is good when betosky is using it
Fanny?
Dickridin at it's finest
Gusion ?
Chou?
Floryn?
Hey Betosky if you're planning to play him in the near future as a non-jungler, I recommend using inspire/fury or flicker because he can flicker hook like Franco now.
Good to know mate
I rather old minsitar, can def and shield on his skills bcs he got no skill to def himself when war
@@backup3601 Well he is supposed to be an initiator. So he is more inclined towards cc and aoe in his new revamp.
i think minsithar would be really good with a hibrid build with corrosion scythe war axe brute force thunder belt and malefic roar as the items in that order, maybe switch thunder belt for brute force depending on what you prefer
His experience lane is unreal...split push so good bc of his late game clear speed
i love betosky and his gameplay is always great, i was hoping to see minsitthar in the exp lane (i know he said no one wants to jungle) instead of seeing a jungle role every single time (for other heroes too)
Saber as roamer is honestly really enjoyable you don't have to farm and since your roaming all of the enemy team is constantly scared of being ulted by saber
I agree
Saber as roamer is only good when the enemy have a squishy lineup
@@xxDanielsWorldxx I said playing saber as roamer is enjoyable not that you should pick saber as roamer or jg Every match
@@razortk77g95 you didn't say that in your comment
@@xxDanielsWorldxx because it common knowledge that saber is situational not OP
Can’t wait for you to try the new Joy 😮💨
This is one of those vids of yours that didn't start with "hi guys" haha. Avid fan from PH.
I tested 3 out of 4 builds for minis so far Tank , crit , trinity are absolutely amazing , now I will try burst build.
Was waiting for this 😃💗💗💗
I have never been so excited for a revamp as this one before XD
Thanks for using our country's reprensentive hero🎉
I played him as a tank most of the time and he is very good with that in the mid to end game!
The suspenseful music before getting a kill is op💯
U really should try saber as roamer in ur next game, dire hit works wonders for him!
You can also try using windtalker since each person of his ult procs the passive of the item which can be a good early game item when laning
What to do if you are a tank and losing how to handle at that situation you are my idol that is why I ask you in a hope to get a video on it 🙂
I havent played the new minsi but The only thing that doesnt sit right with me is the english voice change, i mean the new voice fits the default minsi With a younger tone but i really like his Gilded king with the old deep voice, also the royal guard shout when he ults !
Can't wait to see betosky uses novaria in the future. I bet he'll snipe all those squishy heroes from afar without being caught off guard☕
Finally he played Minshittar after 3 year following him. It is the first time i see Minst gameplay
9:58 music serious af🤣🤣I thought he is going to hook 2 of the but....... 🤣🤣
I love your videos can you try wanwan with her nerfed ult
minsi is amazing even before, very versatile..he is just much cooler now..
Minsi is already good enough but the huge problem is Ult cant block some dashes. This new update made Minsi the strongest counter against super mobile heroes like ling or hayabusa.
Tough or Warrior boots
Windtalker
Demon Hunter Sword
Thunderbelt
Oracle
Immortality or Brute Force Chestplate
Battle Spell
Flicker for early and late
Petrify for 1v1 or teamfights
Vengeance against stronk heroes
Recommend Minsi now and i will buy it next update hoping it doesnt get banned.
Hey Beto Love your vids, it really helped me improve my gameplay, I was wondering can you do a Vid of Roger & your rotation, plus he has a new revamped skin, hoping you play him soon, & Give me a shout out ❤
😊dammm still making mlbb u always suprise me betoxy I mean it even im a fan damm your amazing
Saber roamer is possible, but it's really hard - especially in the early game. While in end game you can treat him like late-mid-game support. I've used him like that when there was no other option (i picked him and s5 choose second jg instead of roamer) and sometimes even win. Try building 1 offensive item as 3rd item and it should be fine.
There are certain conditions. You only pick him if the jungler is very squishy and your jungler or EXP laner is a bulky Tank or Fighter to make up for lost durability. Otherwise if enemy picks tanky junglers , just give up on trying to go for Saber roam.
Saber can works wonders if your team have physical damage heroes. Saber's passive can reduce physical defence and using his skill 1 u can reduce enemy's defence, making it easier for your team to finish them easily.
In certain situations Saber can only use ult and leave battle just to let your teammate escape from a rough situation
@@jajchan and u die
8:41
Shin is prolly proud of Edith, *OUR KEELS*
Hey Beto, can you try Freya next? Her gameplay is so much consistent now
Minsi's first skill can pull 5 people in it's range now so he can still be played as a tank
I've tried him a lot since the update, and it seems that the attack speed build has the highest damage output for him, and he is also so fun to play now
Crit or trinity? Does he need defensive items?
Crit has more burst damaged guess his guards all trigger the passive of windtalker
I always enjoy your videos . I like the music here 8:50 can i have the name ?
As some one who often use franco when he is forced to go tank, I can say that franco's hook is a lot easier to land than minsi's
That Eudora was just throwing, letting their emotions took over. GG
Try out the Crit build too! its Pretty good
I preferred him before because I used to use him with tank build. I still have to try him with the tank build on revamp but I don’t think it will be the same
.,atlast... you've played minsi beto... 😄😄
u can also do the hook flick now👀
Remember you can build corrosive scythe, Dhs, windtalker, berserker and/or scarlet phntom. If you want that fast atk speed that hurts.
Early present ❤
Nxt freya
It would be cool if his skill 1 could reposition which direction his skill 2 is in.
Saber is similiar to kadita when it comes to securing kills, its not a bad strategy to use him as a roamer and with just a few items, in the early game saber can easily pick up squishy enemies.
Ofc a good marksman or mage will build some defence or immunity but any good saber player knows this and can easily counter them. Saber as a roamer is situational but when it works, it works really well.
you should try crit build (if the enemy line up is squishy)
I think if he’s played as a tank he could be pretty good, his first skill is kinda like an easier to land franco hook and his second is like a slightly worse lolita shield, I also think his ult just good for team fights
Remember the time minsi has the first nana passive aka pocket money
What a bad time 😌🤧
I remember i used to play old minsi as tank, and one time like 2-2.5 years ago i queded up in a duo with a friend and we played for 44 minutes, we won because of a well placed ult by me. Glad to see him being good now
The background music though. Its like im watching a war movie.😅
Yaa.. saber roam is good you must try it. 👍👍
Waa my fav hero revamp already🤩
But sadly no more knock+stun skill😭
Let's goo first
YES i can't wait for the Saber roam tutorial lmao
Great video THank you
Betosky, best first item overall is windtalker, each soldier on ult procs the passive, which will make it hurt a lot on any 1v1
A beautiful draft and the game goes smooth
I was in love with his revamp
2 year of subscribing betosky now we can see minsitthar gameplay yayyy..............
As a Mins main I hate the VA I miss his strong powerful voice now he sounds like a zesty prince
I can agree,old voice is a lot superior
He was a prince. The new revamp story. But i like his old voice.
The quote "old but gold" really fits to this
you should try him with critcal build and inspare he had so many dmg with that built
First, sugoiiii
My minsi build
Warrior or tough boots
Rogue Meteor first item
Wintalker , Has's Claws , Berserker, and 2 defence items(depending on the enemy's team)
finally you have played minsitthar
I used to play minsi as support tank like franco with petrify, but now i can build atk items too, don’t know how much stronger he is now but he is definitely more fun to play, i am not used to him not having a stun on his 2nd skill tho
The moment the revamped came on official server, I auto lock him and played him in rank and classic and lemme say, I'm impressed with this new minsitthar. His hooks feelings longer for some reason, and his ult deals more damage plus stun. Best of all, the 2nd skill, yeah you can argue it's easily avoidable but in most case naaaa, if u fall into his combo mostly ur dead. It's very good for waveclear, it can attack tower faster and with range, also it benefits from attack speed items.
I tried a mm build on him yesterday along with inspire, full dhs build plus since he's a fighter i also added war axe since he benefits from it. And damnn the result is insane, one combo, one kill, one combo one kill hahaha
And remember, he can pull multiple enemies with his first skill, infact the whole enemy team altogether if they stick in one spot
Havent watched your videos in a while. Anyway minsi is good rn
Roam Saber with dire hit boots is absolutely nuts, and it's fun!
I clicked fast when I saw the post. I’m not even playing Minsitthar 😂
He’s really good with critical damage with attack speed, you should try this
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Beto seriously good with every hero suki ❤
Minsitthar inspire plus 2nd skill op
But I feel like he is now more geared towards being a fighter rather than a semi tank like his previous which is kinda sad cos I play him solely to be an annoying meat shield. Why did they remove the stunt from his 2nd skill sed and his defensive capabilities seem to be weaker now?
Can u try second skill + inspire...
As long as Betosky-sama are behind the hero, any hero will felt OP 😂
The revamped is good, the ult can benefit on item's, can hook all the enemy and piercing through the enemy with the 2nd skill XD
Minsi went from a forgotten hero to a less forgotten op hero
As a Myanmar 🇲🇲 myself I am happy that Moontoon still recognize our heroes တိုက်ကြ နေမင်းကြီးသည် ငါ့နိုင်ပေါ်တွင်ထွန်းလင်းစေ
ayo hii, I am myanmar too
@@kiyotakaayanokoji3446 Yo what's up
@@tharkhant9870 Yolo lmao you edited the comment
Betosky plz do tutorial for good rotation for tank and delayed exp and gold
Since I love playing Mars in Dota 2 Ill play main mins next season
You should try Freya (if someone is insane and don't ban her)
I think to solve the enemy easily being able to escape they should make it so that his second skill follows the enemy as they move.
His 2nd skill is like a melee version of Lolita's shield or Chang'e ult.
Or Aulus skill
works like yin's first skill during ult
Edith gameplay and tips!
I'm going to miss that old 2nd skill's frying pan sound effect if it hits a target.
Yes, I did Saber as a roameramy times, especially if there is a Fanny where my teammates do not have the skill to capture Fanny.
Is there a new map Design? The lord looks so cool
Go trinity nd wind talker plus imo for imma pull up machine gun build
I mainly use trinity plus 2 defense with inspire nd assassin emblem
Everyone is a Minsithar main now