So in this video, I'm going to play Minsitthar Notice: This content is created based on Moonton’s Material and complies with Derivative Content Policy, Moonton does not endorse this content.
Just wanna declare something, ministhar shud be the meta fighter because he's one of the best hero who can counter blink heroes like ling, fanny, roger and more. Its just not many player cannot see his full potential as a combo hero with another aoe hero
The problem is, some hero with dash skill still can escape his ulti. Wanwan can dash using her passive after using her 2nd skill effect. Lancelot can use his ultimate in Minsithar ulti. There lot of hero that still can escape it, that the problem. Edit: I need to clear something up, Lance can use his ulti on Minsithar ultimate long ago (few season ago) so i stop play Minsithar. I never pick him anymore so I doesn't know that they already fixed it, lol. So stop complaining about "Lance can use his ulti on Minsithar ultimate"
I actually like minsitthar but sometimes I feel his not dealing any damage that's why I usually play him as a tank. I really think they should buff DMG,add DMG to his ult when upgrading and revamp or change his passive it might be too much but I really think he needs it🙂. Edit:Thanks for the likes and opinions/comments.
Even with tank items minditthar can't tank a lot,he dies really easily without his team,his ult is REALLY useful But the range of his ult is kind of small,and his warriors deal almost lesser damage then him,he's just mostly used for counter hero and not really as a fighter,not a good tank as well,he's just there to help and support the team fight
I kind of feel like Minsitthar is going to be revamped soon in the future just like the other Forgotten/Underpowerd heroes. And I think they would do A LOT of rework on the hero to make him useful in both Early and Late Game matches as I have seen him in a couple of matches literally being useless in Late Game as he just tickled my Teammates. While in the Early game... He was just somewhat annoying mosquito rather than an actual threat.
i think he would be picked more if they changed his roles to tank/support , increased his hp and defense scaling and buffed his 1st skill to have a faster animation than Franco's
That still not good enough, oasive can become useless just like elgin said. Ult is trash that really needs a buff badly. First skill is hella slow. Second is slow and kinda useless in few situations. Low ho and defence and damage. Overrall trash je needs immediate revamp
Minsitthar Main here, so proud he's finally entering the spotlight. But I do agree his damage is very weak compared to other fighters. Not only that he's fairly squishy too. So I make his build a mix of fighter and tank with assassin emblem for additional crit damage. Edit: I agree too that even tho his hook passes through minions, it has a very short range and very slow execution. Heroes with dash or blink skills easily escape it and makes it almost obsolete. Another one I agree with Elgin is that his Ult's damage does not increase. Overall he's a pretty decent hero for team fights, but he really lacks a lot of things especially in damage and skill wise.
@@kimciocson4262 He's getting a revamped so yeah. I also meant that he's getting attention because of this video, Elgin pointed out his strength and weaknesses, so there might be people that'll get interested. Shedding light on a forgotten hero.
He's actually my first go-to fighter in the game, and I still use him sometimes. It's just that when he was first released, he was almost immediately followed by Khufra so his ability to disable blinks is never appreciated enough. Also, given his skillset and passive, he exists better as a support in teamfights, not as a solo fighter.
He is my old main. He is so good when roam but if u use him as. Fighter it is also good but his Laning capability is so bad. So u just can't join team fights more frequent because he can't clear the minions so fast. Also the long cooldown is also a disadvantage
@@chobrochan2618 Just buy item to compensate what he lacks. Can't clear minion fast? Cursed Helmet, can't deal much damage even with damage item? Demon hunter sword+Corrosion Scythe, the rest 4 items are interchangeable.
The problem with him is everything basically Damage, terribly slow skills, His ult can easily be escaped since it's not really that big unless they make it like a pull skill where everyone comes to center alittle bit
@@cosmiceclipse or just make it his passive where your enemies gets stacked slow everytime u used a skill it's the only solution i have that wont make him op but balanced
My thoughts about Minsittar: Passive: The passive which is giving each teammate some gold every time he gets a kill and gains some gold if the teammate get a kill is useful for SUPPORT. I honestly don't know why that's his passive. He is a fighter role. First Skill: It's more difficult to aim this skill than franco's hook. The slow animation, shorter range, and sometimes you hit the enemy but unsuccessfully hook it makes it annoying to use it. You have to come closer to enemy and THEN predict the enemy's movement. If the skill has slightly longer range, it would be ok enough. Second Skill: Stunning the enemy is good alright, but sometimes knocking back really far to other enemies is quite useless in some situation. I played Minsitthar to practice, I was able to catch my enemy with my first skill and use second skill to stun it BUT there was a minion in front of the enemy. Therefore, the enemy got knockback and run away. Additionally, it has shorter range. and IT IS SO SHORT. one slightly wrong angle and you failed. Ult Skill: The ult skill is the only skill I find Minsitthar useful, you can jump to the enemy so they cannot flick or use blink/dash skills, you can gain additional physical and magic defense, and can be helpful to kill the enemy with your teammate. The only problem I found is the four clones' damage are depend on your physical attack. So their damage would be so low if you are using tank build. Also, you cannot increase it's attack speed. Which I wish they can added. (Like each clones can benefit 15% attack speed.) Items: I played several matches using Minsitthar but honestly IDK what is the right one. If I use full damage build, I would be an easy target since I have lack of dash/blink skills. If I use hybrid build, Both my damage and defense would be just decent. If I use marksman build (Full attack speed) then my basic attacks are my sources of damage. Full tank/support build would be the only option.
That passive is completely dependent on teammates but it also makes him the best roamer since he gains so much more benefits from assisting and if he does kill he gives the whole team gold. The king gets his taxes 💵 👑 . You know it’s crazy that the guards don’t activate skill damage or basic attack damage effects like anti heal from sea halberd
you’re right about the passive but i can’t agree with the others stuff cause i’m one of the best minsitthar user in my country the first skill is not hard at all and i build the best item for minsittar tank and fighter. TBH i use minsitthar as a fighter a lot
He's not really much of a fighter, more of a tank/support. However, there are plenty more heroes who are better at tanking/supporting than him, so, why use him at all. Maybe they can revamp his skills by giving more damage for every point of defense, similar to Grock. Or make skill damage scale better.
Suggestion: If they want a fighter/support then they could give his ult the ability to activate item effect And if they want to make him more of a tank/fighter then they could increase slow or widen his ult
No more attack/defense convertion please :(,you see what happen to grock after that passive given to him,it make him very tough and dealing massive dmg,very anoying hero to fight at rank
As minsitthar main, i can say tht he can be pretty good for being exp or roamer. When you become exp make sure to keep making the enemy busy with you in lane so they will not roam to mid and wipe your team out and secure turtle, it is important to keep them busy with you because it is usually really hard to clear wave faster than enemy. For me i just build thunder belt as core item and endless battle for extra damage (abuse the true damage as well as you can) and the rest is defense item. And i also recomended using tank emblem with brave smite talent, just slap your enemy with 2ns skill every 8 second than you get 7% hp, also the shield from tht skill can pretty much usefull to keep your enemy bussy at you. As roamer he can easly catch enemy with first skill + fliker combo, then use ult and the other skill to abuse thunder belt passive and slow down your enemy if you do it right he can hold the enemy at least 6 second in your ult area. In short he is really good in team fight because of his cc skill, but when become exp laner its hard to cath up with enemy if they clear lane fast and roam to other lane. And also it is really hard to do combo if you not have thunder belt or other skill tht can slow down enemy inside ult area.
I know minsitthar since he's the one that id mostly pick when i first started Mobile Legends(ML), and its quite nice hearing that he's being showcased by you. And i havent used him for YEARS
Minsitthar is a forgotten hero but honestly he's a good counter To those heroes who count on thier blinking Skills Edit: Especially Ling. Lancelot. And Benedetta.
Buff: Skill 1: Faster animation Skill 2: Auto lock skill Ultimate: Bigger range And add more mobility to this Hero, because meta tank heroes this day have good mobility
Here's a good idea for his Ult: If you dash/blink inside his Ult (wether it be from inside to outside or outside to inside), you get knocked back to the center of the Circle and stunned for 2 secs. No more dash ban
He is adapted from Myanmar king named Kyansittha.I like enjoy playing him time to time.He has alot of cc skills and he can play in offlane and also as a roamer as well.🌸
Not just all that, but also his hook, there are always often times that you do hit the enemies but it doesn’t actually hook them since they’re either at the edge or to the side of the 1st skill..
I also noticed that Lou Yi was hooked, but instead of pulling Lou Yi, it just damage her which makes her escape 🤣🤣 I think the problem is the casting speed, like when the animation is just so slow, it doesn't hook always...
"He never really shined throughout his MLBB life" ,Actually he's the first real counter to Fanny when she was if not one the most powerful heroes, It's just that Khufra was released and outshined him in terms of effectivity.
Me lembro como se fosse ontem... era a Season 18, estava de benedetta (meu antigo main, o qual alcancei top estadual) e a segunda maior surra que já levei foi contra o Misintar... a primeira foi contra o Kaja. Excelente vídeo! O Brasil te acompanha também!
I love minsithar and have played him in the side lane and tank role recently. When you build him with 1 attack item like endless or war axe and then breastplate and defensive items, he can pretty much kill mages and marksmen when you land a combo, if you build him tank you are pretty much a cc nightmare for enemies and the anti dash ult really limits heroes like fanny, wanwan, ling and many more very annoying opponents. But if you dont get to scale along with your counterpart in lane or arent effective with your roams as tank, minsithar kinda falls off easily because he easily gets overwhelmed when underleveled and under itemed. If they were to buff him i think faster skill animations specially his first, so that its still efective even if you are in battle and not setting up an ambush. Or additional movement speed on his second skill or ultimate so that you can better chase and get that passive to proc more.
True. Though i dont read all your point. I read that your conclusion suggest something true about him. He is nightmare for both assasin and marksman. Maybe not mage cuz mage usually will kill you first
I agree on faster animation on 1st since the pull has delay. I guess buff his ult some enemy can still escape like wanwan just use 2nd skill boom U Can dash, Lance still can use ult(base what I've seen in my last matches) or casting 2nd skill then spam dash skills to abuse immunity then dash, Ling from my last fight he still can escape using ult. Maybe make his ult very strict in no dash permission inside my zone. Also good fanny users can just go in and out of the ult.
@@kierzsenpai3542 bro. Let me tell you something. Though minshitar ult is a very good counter for these hero, that doesnt mean he cant be defeated by them. I mean, ling can use his ult to escape, that only happen if he have his ult. wan wan on the other hand using his basic attack, which is pretty much a passive dash, no one can blame her for that. But lance using dash, that different. Im not sure because last time i play against minshitar with lance. Damn he soft lock me. Cant even move. Lastly fanny escaping combo is a very normal thing. The only way to lock her down is using knockback
@@fatehruzman9280 yeah this whole Minsithar thing kinda reminds me back the local tournament on our Christmas party when the enemy bans Khuf obviously they'll pick heroes with dash skills so I proceed to use Minsi as our tank. The stress of my teammates didn't know our enemy Lance and Wanwan can still do dash inside. Well at least where 2nd place. Time to sleep
Minsitthar is a really overpowered hero if used properly. Minsitthar Damage Build: Op Build: -Warrior or Tough Boots -Blade of Heptaseas -Blade of Despair -Endless Battle -Scarlet Phantom/Berserker's -Berserker's Fury/ Scarlet Phantom Combo: 1st skill when hit use 2nd skill to stun then use 3rd and do some basic attacks. use 2nd skill if they still in your range again if the skill is available if they escape drag them back with 1st skill. Recommended Emblem: Assassin/Fighter I prioritized upgrading the: Ult Skill first then the 2nd and lastly the 1st Battle Spells: Flicker, Execute or Inspire Recommended Battle Spell: Inspire (cause of the lifesteal and armor reduction) this good if you wanna play Minsitthar as a Damage Dealer. Tips: If the enemy already in the range of your 2nd skill don't use the 1st skill only use it when they trying to escape. I like how his first skill can pass through minions and creeps making it easier to hook enemies.
I agree with this build he is pretty tanky even without defense items because of his 2nd skill and not to mention whenever you use 2nd skill and gain a shield you have time to lifesteal from the enemies until your shield runs out
lol they really thought Minsitthar is trash even with damage items... his ult isn't the main damager it's his basic attack and 2nd skill they are underestimating his 2nd skill
bruh i tested your advice and it's actually damn op why wait for your teammates to kill for your passive to work when you can kill and give money to your team instead
Lol you clearly never play Minsi in real game. I’m Minsi main player and I always build the attack item only. Too bad if you think he’s only for supporting, chances are you just don’t know how to play him as a fighter.
I think one problem is that minsi skills are sometimes inconsistent. His first skill is slower, compared to Franco hook, hence easier to dodge. His second skill is also awkward, because sometimes, you stun your enemy, but sometimes it is just shoving it away. His ult is fine tho since it counter blink heroes
It only stuns on first target the rest shoves away. Yeah his 1st is delay and even it dmg the enemy it didn't pull especially at the very end of the spear.
As a user of Minsi occasionally, I think the problems are the following: - Minsi has almost no damage compare to other fighters or even tank and support, even though you build him attack items. - Minsi is not as tanky as other tanks or fighters even though you build him defensive items. - Minsi has short stun on second skill and it has kinda long cooldown compare to other tanks or fighters, some fighters and tanks can stun you like forever and can do it over and over again. - Minsi's hook rarely caught anyone since it can be easily avoided and it has a short range. - Minsi's Ult almost do nothing except anti-dash which an be easily avoided since some dash heroes has immunity and movement speed boost. - Sometimes Minsi can help enemies escape since he can only stun one and push back others so if a low enemies was push back they can easily escape and sometime it pushes enemies outside his Ult. This is just my experience with him...
You should try this build: Magic Shoes, Thunder Belt, BOD. The rest are flex tank items. I use this build and find that it make me strong enough to solo most marksmen and assasssins but also tanky enough to last in a team fight as a pseudotank. A lot of people underestimate how much damage his Ultimate does with one BOD and end up investing either fully into tank or fully into fighter. I find that fighter builds make him overall way too squishy but tank builds just make him do no damage at all. From my 280 Minsittar games of experience, the single bod build with thunderbelt is the best build because BOD makes the ultimate hit really hard against squishies and thunderbelt gives good slow and true damage to keep them in your ultimate. The three flex tank items ensure that if you make a mistake you will live.
The first two skills are fine, the main way to fix him is pretty simple, give his Ultimate a slow effect, or maybe even give the troops during his ultimate scaling, in a way that they can borrow minsitthars attack speed, making them attack faster
As a minsitthar main since 2017, I'd say his role is to support in early game while try to give some damage output during mid and late game. He also is a good sustain due to his 2nd ability you should try spamming it by combining fighter and tank items.
For me the only good part of Minsithar is about the pull/hook because it ignores the god forsaken minions on the way. If you play Franco you will understand how it feels.
No it's his ult being to fully counter someone like ling He's hook is really short and easy to dodge compare to Franco And he's role is a fighter which makes forgotten because he's damage is too low
@@dfnmhfhrexfgb8659 well you ain't wrong it's a lot easier since it ignores minions but it's more predictable than Franco since Franco can just hook you without even seeing him but for minsitar you have to go alot closer which makes it obvious
I used to main this hero when he was launched in the official server. I sometimes use him as a substitute tank in rank mode because of his skill set being a great counter for blink heroes.
My first favorite fighter he’s fun and easy to play, sucks that he didn’t really become popular. His ult is a menace to every dashing hero, particularly every assassin that ever existed.
Legit, his manas are Super bad at early game if you wanted to compete with other non-mana and energy stack heroes on exp. Which kinda unfair for Moonton for this hero. Plus his damage doesn't have good features nor his skills.
Minsittar would actually be in the meta if he had more damage on his ulti, and has a pull effect that pulls enemies to the center, faster hook animation, longer and wider range on his skill 2, and maybe a movement speed boost if he lands his skill 2, and hook, reason why he would be good in the meta is because he counters heroes like lance who has a lot of dash skills, can render flicker useless because of the no dash debuff, that makes him effective against marksman like Clint, brody, and other marksman that arent basic attack reliant, has a dash skill, and prefers to use flicker instead of inspire,his ultimate is useful in teamfights restricting the enemies position and movement by silencing their dash skills, and even flicker,marksman wont be able to reposition themselves, and if they were able to, theyd get pulled by minsittars hook.
My bf is a Minsi main and to be fair, we do win a lot of games when our teammates let him play the tank role, but he can also dominate the exp lane if you master him completely and know how to use the combo. Very very weak damage but with his ult, cc and petrify, the enemy can’t escape that easily if you managed to hook them into the turret, plus he’s a headache to Harley player or any other blink heroes. Quite fun to have an experienced Minsitthar in your team, but is best as a tank in exp lane or roam, otherwise too squishy imo. I feel like he’d be on the top tier list if he received a proper buff.
When Khufra was Meta in my region and was getting banned, whenever enemy picked Lance Ling Gus Chou, we picked Minsi to counter, not to mention he can stop any enemy from escaping with dash, he's also a Hard counter for paquito who is a Meta laner/Jungler now. He is a counterpick hero
Tbh it's not his hook that I find hard about him but instead his 2nd skill landing his hook is actually quite easy with the help of flicker but his 2nd is harder because it can only stun one target and also unnecessarily pushes the enemies around the one that was stunned plus the target can also be a jungle creep and a minion so in exp lane stunning the enemy is hard since you can stun the minions and accidentally push the enemy I also agree with him lacking damage it's the reason why playing him as a roamer is more fun and better than playing him as an exp laner
Elgin: Do you remember him now? Me who is a Burmese player: Always has been 🤧🥲 He was my one of my favorite hero before many meta heroes released. I would love to play again after his revamp. But the new design doesn't look like our real King. I prefer the old design 👑
The big glaring issues are slow ability cast and the fact that you can damage enemies with the hook but if there at the very end it won't pull them, unlike frankos you can be a foot off and still hook.
I would boost 3 things of him: 1. Passive. When ahead gain the normal stats when behind get the double amount. This can be a game changer in late game. 2. His ult needs to deal more dmg or do more slow and more protection. This can be aquired by faster attack speed of the guards, or changing to HP based dmg. The protection just like 30/40/60 and half for teammates and slow 40% instead of 20% 3. The dmg on skill 1 and 2 just not extra attack dmg but total physical attack dmg. But this is not important. If his ult and passive get a boost it is already enough.
He definitely needs to get reworked. I got to master him when he was still new but after that I never really used him unless it's either him or an assassin that I have to choose during a brawl match and yes I use him as a tank/support for his control skills as well.
I love using Minsi! Back when I was in low rank I like to use him as a fighter but he doesn't really have that damage. I now use him as a tank/roamer. I honestly forgot his passive but now it's clear why I always notice I get more gold when getting kills and assists. I guess I should read more :3
Minsitthar is one of my favorite heroes, no one can see the potential of this hero because most players focus on damage and kills, but they never realized that simple crowd control effects are very deadly to enemies. almost every play I use Minsitthar and I always win thanks to his crowd control. one of the underrated but one of the best
Elgin: Who is this hero? Me: I'm gonna make sure you remember his name. Edit: He's pretty good when paired with other anti dash heroes, such as Phoveus, Khufra and Akai (Akai can activate Phoveus' ult and can also push the enemies to the anti dash team)
But phoveous can mark the enemy that has been pushed and using minisithhar 2nd skill on a group of enemy he can mark many enemies if the time is right phoveous can jump 5 times without using any other skills because minisithhar skill 1 pull can mark 1 and 2nd can stun 1 and knock back 4 and mark 4
I actually liked this hero because of this video, minsittar is flexible as a tank, and he fulfill he's role as an initiator better than other initiators, just need a few adjustment and it's all perfect, i think this video will help for montoon realize what minsittar is capable of ✨
Tips for playing minsithar if u use pertrify: Use petrify first then second skill, beacause petrify has quicker animation so its easier to hit with second skill if u always miss
He's a good counter against dashing heroes, but so is Phoveous. Smashing enemies and gaining a lot of shield. Take note that his skill cd lowers whenever enemies around dash. I would prefer Phoveus over him, build CoD and Ice queen Wand, and he can be unstoppable. I love watching enemies having a hard time deciding if they'll just run or dash.
I love playing him as tank, he is so good against blink heroes , and I spam in classic as tank a lot. And it work sooo good. And he is super fun to play.. even I use him in rank sometimes but as roamer not fighter, he is super good support
I always using Minsithar when I want to do a fighter tank, I boost his Cool-down reduction and defense, then some slowing items, it is my favorite fighter. I think I can cast 5-6 stun and hooks every clash if my cd reduc maxes.
Theory: Minsitharr was created to stop harith from destroying the meta, but since he was nerfed to the ground, Minsitharr then served almost no purpose but only to other heroes with multiple blink skills.
Minsi's amount of emotional damage due to his ults ineffectiveness -Passive dashes can't be affected (wanwan, alu,ruby) -Immune skill heroes can still dash on his ult (lance for example, dunno about benedetta's ult but both have immune) -His skillset is single target while his ult has this huge aoe (basically contradicting the purpose of the ult) -Does not stop dash animations
They should make the ult apply on hit effects so we can have a semi-mm/semi-fighter and half tank build so he's more dependent on the damage factor which he seems to be lacking a lot, if you try to fix that problem, he'll be too squishy to stay in fights too much.
Minsi is actually a good hero because of his kit that really benefits teamfights and a lot of players cannot manage to play him right and well (I usually build 1st item as corrosion scythe to match up with his low dmg +to utilize his ULT in 1v1 situations) considering his passive that gives gold, this hero is really more capable of being support/tank than being in the sides
I always use Minsitthar in Rank games whenever there is a great setter and He deals a lot of damage to marksman who have any blink skills,it would be great if he had a revamp Special tip: Focus on assist not on kill if you are gonna use Minsitthar,It will be easier if you help them kill in order you will have lots of gold
minishitar now is over peowered by the arrival of new heroes i remember when i play classic games way back 2019 2018 there was minishitar always in my team i hope he will get revamp soon
Just bring back his old ultimate AOE range while he is still in advanced server and increase his AOE for his 2nd skill. And also make his 1st skill faster. Reduce his damage if you find the mentioned changes OP. He is a CC fighter like Ruby and not damage fighter like Martis
He's actually a pretty good utility fighter or a tank/ support...Trying to build damage is kind of a mistake..I Kindda go with tanky items that also have some damage..plus his ult if used properly can give u an easy time in teamfights...HE KINDDA SUCKS AS A FIGHTER BUT IS A GREAT SUPPORT...But tbh they should just change his role to support
I'm a killer minsi in Mythic 3 with 65% wr.. Minsi's damage is actually quite sneaky. I do KS as emblem and execute as spell. Build path: Tough Shoes Core Items: Endless Battle Blade of Despair Berserker Defensive Item: Immortality Athena Dominance Ice. I rarely build Cuirass to him since the shield provided in his second is quite sustainable in team fights (if you know how to use it)
@@brandMason Damn u must have a lot of free time...Don't know ur rank but most 9layers of my tier stick to the meta 8r their counters..I don't meet many minsi but I generally use him as a tank or utility fighter....BUT DON'T BOTHER ANSWERINV MY RANK QUESTION...Everybody knows in which rank we meet players who are like" Come Custom"...And lastly ML is a team game...unless it's a 5 v 5 u can't really comment on how good the hero is so 1 v1 won't prove anything
@@brandMason and even Elgin's playing minsi as a support and said his damage is bad. ... So why don't u invite elgin for a custom match...U might even get a chance to appear in a video of his..Isn't that what u random Sttention seekers desire the most...
@@slaveinutero9542 Too bad, I'm a top 1 Minsi in Canada and top 3 in world rank. Don't make me laugh with the rank question. You guys are noobs and suck just accept it. Elgin what? he doesn't even know Minsi combo like pfttt. He's a CZcamsr making content about ML but clearly just a noob player. Noob like you will never understand the true power of a hero because you just pick the metas. Come at me 1 vs 5, I'll beat your all ass in 15 minutes noobs
I find him more as a tank/support then a fighter since most of my matches playing as him- I find myself using him as a roamer more, since his skill is almost completely CC based, with a passive that give him gold when his ally kill and his ally get gold when he kill. tell me that isn't a support ability?
Woudl be good if his Ultimate effect would stay with him like floating air. OR if it like, explode and the "unblinkable" effect will last up to 5-7-9 seconds to the enemies hit.
IMHO he's neither here nor there : His damage output is not as good as other fighters, his defensive stats are not as good as other tanks, his mobility is limited, simply put there are way too many alternatives that can do a much better job than him, and picking him usually puts your team at a disadvantage. His hook is fairly usable but there's a laughable delay and the range indicator isn't optimised. His stun also comes with a delay, and its narrow hit box can cause it to miss even at ridiculously close ranges (Sometimes miss even at point blank, you gotta see it to believe it). His ult is truly great tho, but walking out of it is also fairly easy due to its rather limited aoe(Waiting for the enemies to spend their mobility skills prior to ulting helps, but really it doesn't matter as much as you'd think). I recently played a game where I saw Wan² literally leap out of my ult's aoe after using her 2nd skill(Probably during her small window of debuff immunity). Having said all that, I actually still pick him as a counter to Fanny users when Khufra is banned, because he's quite easy to use. However, take note that it still won't work well against good Fanny users. Khufra is a much better choice in almost all scenarios, if you need to stop high-mobility heroes.
Im minsi main here, what I like about him is CC, hook and stun plus battle spell petrify, that is why I Usually play him as tank because of the defence bonus from his ultimate which complements him in tank role. I build him def items with cooldown reduction to maximize spamming his CC skills. While playing him as tank I realize that he is really good pairing with a good teammates just like the video said. There are a lot of good combo with him as tank. To compensate for the shorter range of his hook, I use ulti + hook combo. Then I use the extra jump from his ulti to reach further which surprises enemies. Once you caught someone they are as good as dead due to stun and dash lock. But always remember, bring a teammate ahaha
He's pretty good actually ... he's a unsung unpopular counter for assassin dash hero ...the shield from his skill 2 is actually quite nice if you left w 1 HP , his shield can be helpful for his survivability... overall after using him several matches , he can counter many meta hero and maybe if moonton fix his skill 1 to be more precise maybe he'll be more popular pick
Minsitthar has alot of escape skills, but there are alot of problems with him, these are the cons by the way. 1. His slow animation from his first skill, the enemy has a bit of time to react before he land his first skill on them. 2. His ultimate. His ultimate will be useless because the enemy can easily escape when he doesn't place his ultimate properly, 3. He is weak in any build. 4. He can be squishy building him attack build, especially when the enemy has alot of good burst skills. 5. He is easy to catch off guard, this is when your allies are either dead or far away from you, when you don't land your second and ultimate properly on them, there's a chance that the enemy can kill you since you didn't land your skills properly to them. This is the Pros now 1. He can catch high mobility heroes by chance 2. His ultimate won't allow the enemies to use their spells and skills. (Idk about regen) 3. He has a stun that gives him a time to kill that squishy hero. 4. He is tanky in tank build. He can be always built in tank build because he is tanky and giving his allies a chance to go to their bankline Idk
I bought him and the only thing is a regret😌 like you said He's not a solo hero and his hooks is very predictable and short. Can't wait to use again once the Moonton revamp him.
The problem is some other players don't know how to properly use minsi. But I think, minsi is one of thd dependable heroes sa ml. i used him either as semi tank and/ or tank. - First, about his spear hook, it has the advantage of ignoring the creeps on its way, however, you must always be aware of its distance and accuracy... It must be straight line, unexpected hook example (a) pag nachachase Ka and malapit Ka sa tower pwede Ka ma SS sa tower, hook, saka shield or (B) ginagamit din to if the enemy is in place and confident ang kalaban Di mo sya mahook, (C) also use if enemy escapes from his SS. Setter hero and Initiator Yan. You must always be accurate, confident, and must choose wisely when to SS and Hook. - In terms of one on one Laning, he is not like other heroes na pang one v one, that's why your tower is your friend- tower hug ang play Nyan. however, this is the only way ma outsmart mo ang kalaban, especially if wala pang items. Patience LNG need mo. Di madadaling mapenetrate ang tower plus minsithar especially may ss Ka at durable items mo. Typically pag may pro minsi, especially Kung ubus na ang lane towers, minsi is capable of defending his ground especially ang base nila. Hanggang buhay ang minsi sa last game, Di yan madali mapenetrate. As long as may kasama. -Hindi Lang pang stun ang skill 2 nya, lagyan mo pa Ng oracle saka emblem Yan, kahit kaunti life Nyan, makakasurvive Ka sa skill 2 nya. Pero kinakailangan mo mamamaster ang distansya and saka Tamang timing. It is for his shield, it's how he can survive especially pag clash na. Add ons Lang ang stun.
Minsittar is very versatile. His strength are team fighting and lockdown a hero. His passive makes him the ideal roamer where he benefits from both killing and his team getting kills which can give him an advantage on the enemy roamer. As a EXP laner he is very slow and is better duo in exp or roaming. His bread and butter is that ult, but its very situational and in exchange for that he gains a lot of defense from using it and staying in it. Here I want to adjust ministrar so that he’s used more often: his passive should be kept the same but it give more gold if ministrar gets the kill, or If it is going to be changed then make it so he increases Ally def and res based of his assists and doubled if it’s a kill, as a king that fights with his troops he should boost their morale. His first skill can be kept the same but I believe the stun should be instant like Franco’s hook, not be delayed after it hits the target. In retrospect that’s probably why the stun is delayed, to travel it’s full distance and pull, but it should still be faster. His shield bash should give him more shield if he uses it inside his ult to make him even more tanks while that’s up. Finally I think his ult should be a pseudo-suppression effect so that ALL blink AND immunity skills are blocked. This ult is completely useless against Ling ult/Ruby/Wanwan/Lancelot ult, to name a few who can completely immune his ult. His ult should make him basically invincible when he uses it and should be a real punishing move, but most heros in this game can just get out or have built in immunes that nullify him. If I had to change his ult, I would make the guards follow him with him in the center and either add 1 more guard and lower the damage and make the guards lower defense or magic resistance. I want him to at this point get less damage and more defense and utility to his team. I want him to rebuff the enemies while buffing his allies.
If you want to build minsi into a pure fight use fighter emblem then put all in attack/pen and disabling strike. Build: corrosion schyte,blade of despair, Hunter strike, thunder belt and any of these items depending on the enemy -oracle, immortality, boots (any).
I remember,in season 10 where Harith was OP af he was used closely every game when the enemy picked Harith or the team with Harith picked him, just to dont let the enemy pick it. But after Haeith died and Phoveus got released, there are no reason to pick him.
I've been playing Minsitthar as a Fighter. And usually I would dominate the Gold Lane when up against a solo laning Marksman. In late game, I dealt enough damage to knockout their squishies. It satisfy me a lot. Although doesn't become as useful in the late game.
I've been using minsitthar since his first release and got Top 1 Global Minsitthar at one point and he's actually too op since he can counter most of the hero because of his op ult, the fact that his hook can pass through minions and his passive which makes him impossible to get delay on gold and yet I barely see him at ranked games
I think it would be a great buff to make the 4 clones of his ult scale with his attack speed and trigger on hit effects. this way he would become an on-hit fighter-bruiser like badang mixed with franco's suppressive CC
The problems for minisitar is that his spare can see before he full if they hide the vision of his spare that will be better. n his ultimate attack is so slow if they make it fast or better change it.
In my opinion, Minsithar's hook is easier to land especially cuz it ignores minions & is a bit wider than Franco's hook. But the problem is that punishing the hooked enemy is difficult cuz of short range due to which is difficult to isolate an enemy long enough before their teammates can rescue them. Flicker hook also doesn't work, instead u drop the enemy where they were when u flickered.
His Ultimate is the ace up his sleeve. We often pick minsithar when the enemy have high mobility skills and engage skills. What I've experienced with him is he levels up slower than most heroes and yes he deals a decent amount of damage but in the long run he is out damaged by others, his tankiness comes in handy during those to just play a support semi-tank. *Hope Montoon revamps his passive, like when he deals damage he recieves increased movement speed or skill cooldown or like damage increase for him and his teammates around him. Idk 😆
Just wanna declare something, ministhar shud be the meta fighter because he's one of the best hero who can counter blink heroes like ling, fanny, roger and more. Its just not many player cannot see his full potential as a combo hero with another aoe hero
He was like that before. Players just find it difficult to use Minsithar outside his ult
The problem is, some hero with dash skill still can escape his ulti.
Wanwan can dash using her passive after using her 2nd skill effect. Lancelot can use his ultimate in Minsithar ulti.
There lot of hero that still can escape it, that the problem.
Edit: I need to clear something up,
Lance can use his ulti on Minsithar ultimate long ago (few season ago) so i stop play Minsithar.
I never pick him anymore so I doesn't know that they already fixed it, lol.
So stop complaining about "Lance can use his ulti on Minsithar ultimate"
No dash mobility so hard to Chase easy to Kill when using fighter build
Tbh that's why that's not on meta
@@zainal9775 you can't escape on lance Ult and wanwan Remove cc wdym?
You are somewhere stucked in gm/epic?
I actually like minsitthar but sometimes I feel his not dealing any damage that's why I usually play him as a tank.
I really think they should buff DMG,add DMG to his ult when upgrading and revamp or change his passive it might be too much but I really think he needs it🙂.
Edit:Thanks for the likes and opinions/comments.
Yeah,minsitthar just cannot deal the meta damage,his skills deal too little damage,his basic attacks deals soo little damage as well
Even with tank items minditthar can't tank a lot,he dies really easily without his team,his ult is REALLY useful But the range of his ult is kind of small,and his warriors deal almost lesser damage then him,he's just mostly used for counter hero and not really as a fighter,not a good tank as well,he's just there to help and support the team fight
@@treeguardien Yeah
I kind of feel like Minsitthar is going to be revamped soon in the future just like the other Forgotten/Underpowerd heroes. And I think they would do A LOT of rework on the hero to make him useful in both Early and Late Game matches as I have seen him in a couple of matches literally being useless in Late Game as he just tickled my Teammates. While in the Early game... He was just somewhat annoying mosquito rather than an actual threat.
And also his guards to need to trigger like lifesteal or spell vamp to?
i think he would be picked more if they changed his roles to tank/support , increased his hp and defense scaling and buffed his 1st skill to have a faster animation than Franco's
And scaled his ult off hp a little? So when you upgrade it's more useful
You need right time to use his ultimate, otherwise it's useless.
you must use the Ult when clashing, to avoid the DPS or Assassin/Fighter to Dash
No they should increase his damage so he can burst well as a Fighter
That still not good enough, oasive can become useless just like elgin said. Ult is trash that really needs a buff badly. First skill is hella slow. Second is slow and kinda useless in few situations. Low ho and defence and damage. Overrall trash je needs immediate revamp
Minsitthar Main here, so proud he's finally entering the spotlight. But I do agree his damage is very weak compared to other fighters. Not only that he's fairly squishy too. So I make his build a mix of fighter and tank with assassin emblem for additional crit damage.
Edit: I agree too that even tho his hook passes through minions, it has a very short range and very slow execution. Heroes with dash or blink skills easily escape it and makes it almost obsolete. Another one I agree with Elgin is that his Ult's damage does not increase. Overall he's a pretty decent hero for team fights, but he really lacks a lot of things especially in damage and skill wise.
This video is literally about Minsitthar being forgotten, how is he now "entering the spotlight"??
@@kimciocson4262 He's getting a revamped so yeah. I also meant that he's getting attention because of this video, Elgin pointed out his strength and weaknesses, so there might be people that'll get interested. Shedding light on a forgotten hero.
well i only hook after they dash so it works for me
@@AJ-uu4rj i agree with your comment. I use minsi with tig and eve so we could maximize our team damage when we clash.
BoD increases it
He's actually my first go-to fighter in the game, and I still use him sometimes. It's just that when he was first released, he was almost immediately followed by Khufra so his ability to disable blinks is never appreciated enough. Also, given his skillset and passive, he exists better as a support in teamfights, not as a solo fighter.
He is my old main. He is so good when roam but if u use him as. Fighter it is also good but his Laning capability is so bad. So u just can't join team fights more frequent because he can't clear the minions so fast. Also the long cooldown is also a disadvantage
@@chobrochan2618 Just buy item to compensate what he lacks. Can't clear minion fast? Cursed Helmet, can't deal much damage even with damage item? Demon hunter sword+Corrosion Scythe, the rest 4 items are interchangeable.
@@stupidthings1000 I mean on early. And I don't use him that most nowadays
@@chobrochan2618 Buy fireball thingy from cursed helmet and DHS
The problem with him is everything basically
Damage, terribly slow skills, His ult can easily be escaped since it's not really that big unless they make it like a pull skill where everyone comes to center alittle bit
They should put slowness or stun for every two hits from his mens
@@cosmiceclipse or just make it his passive where your enemies gets stacked slow everytime u used a skill it's the only solution i have that wont make him op but balanced
How about if ministars ult can trigger item effects
That's why petrify is best spell for him
Yes, his skills are very very slow. He's like the Terizla version of Franco
Thank you Elgin! I have always wondered what a Minsitthar was and thanks to you, I know now what they look like and what they do!! Thank you!
I'm a Minsitthar main and been using him since release, He has a good cc and anti mobility kit , so more of a support tank but can also be glasscannon
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My thoughts about Minsittar:
Passive:
The passive which is giving each teammate some gold every time he gets a kill and gains some gold if the teammate get a kill is useful for SUPPORT. I honestly don't know why that's his passive. He is a fighter role.
First Skill:
It's more difficult to aim this skill than franco's hook. The slow animation, shorter range, and sometimes you hit the enemy but unsuccessfully hook it makes it annoying to use it. You have to come closer to enemy and THEN predict the enemy's movement. If the skill has slightly longer range, it would be ok enough.
Second Skill:
Stunning the enemy is good alright, but sometimes knocking back really far to other enemies is quite useless in some situation. I played Minsitthar to practice, I was able to catch my enemy with my first skill and use second skill to stun it BUT there was a minion in front of the enemy. Therefore, the enemy got knockback and run away. Additionally, it has shorter range. and IT IS SO SHORT. one slightly wrong angle and you failed.
Ult Skill:
The ult skill is the only skill I find Minsitthar useful, you can jump to the enemy so they cannot flick or use blink/dash skills, you can gain additional physical and magic defense, and can be helpful to kill the enemy with your teammate. The only problem I found is the four clones' damage are depend on your physical attack. So their damage would be so low if you are using tank build. Also, you cannot increase it's attack speed. Which I wish they can added. (Like each clones can benefit 15% attack speed.)
Items:
I played several matches using Minsitthar but honestly IDK what is the right one. If I use full damage build, I would be an easy target since I have lack of dash/blink skills. If I use hybrid build, Both my damage and defense would be just decent. If I use marksman build (Full attack speed) then my basic attacks are my sources of damage. Full tank/support build would be the only option.
That passive is completely dependent on teammates but it also makes him the best roamer since he gains so much more benefits from assisting and if he does kill he gives the whole team gold. The king gets his taxes 💵 👑 .
You know it’s crazy that the guards don’t activate skill damage or basic attack damage effects like anti heal from sea halberd
you’re right about the passive but i can’t agree with the others stuff cause i’m one of the best minsitthar user in my country the first skill is not hard at all and i build the best item for minsittar tank and fighter.
TBH i use minsitthar as a fighter a lot
TBH, his role should be reworked to tank/support
They made them a Pure Fighter but the Passive is deserves to be a support role
his passive is honestly useless, what happens during late game when everyone has their items already? cant even help during fights
He's not really much of a fighter, more of a tank/support. However, there are plenty more heroes who are better at tanking/supporting than him, so, why use him at all.
Maybe they can revamp his skills by giving more damage for every point of defense, similar to Grock. Or make skill damage scale better.
Suggestion:
If they want a fighter/support then they could give his ult the ability to activate item effect
And if they want to make him more of a tank/fighter then they could increase slow or widen his ult
i agree to you
he needs buff or revamp his passive like atlast passive that can slow or stun enemy for seconds
Also having his dmg buffed doesn't do anything, his skills are too slow and a pretty long cd for a fighter
No more attack/defense convertion please :(,you see what happen to grock after that passive given to him,it make him very tough and dealing massive dmg,very anoying hero to fight at rank
For a hook that is shorter than franco, it should be much faster not slower.
As minsitthar main, i can say tht he can be pretty good for being exp or roamer.
When you become exp make sure to keep making the enemy busy with you in lane so they will not roam to mid and wipe your team out and secure turtle, it is important to keep them busy with you because it is usually really hard to clear wave faster than enemy. For me i just build thunder belt as core item and endless battle for extra damage (abuse the true damage as well as you can) and the rest is defense item. And i also recomended using tank emblem with brave smite talent, just slap your enemy with 2ns skill every 8 second than you get 7% hp, also the shield from tht skill can pretty much usefull to keep your enemy bussy at you.
As roamer he can easly catch enemy with first skill + fliker combo, then use ult and the other skill to abuse thunder belt passive and slow down your enemy if you do it right he can hold the enemy at least 6 second in your ult area.
In short he is really good in team fight because of his cc skill, but when become exp laner its hard to cath up with enemy if they clear lane fast and roam to other lane. And also it is really hard to do combo if you not have thunder belt or other skill tht can slow down enemy inside ult area.
I know minsitthar since he's the one that id mostly pick when i first started Mobile Legends(ML), and its quite nice hearing that he's being showcased by you. And i havent used him for YEARS
Minsitthar is a forgotten hero but honestly he's a good counter To those heroes who count on thier blinking Skills
Edit: Especially Ling. Lancelot. And Benedetta.
Benedetta can be counter by minsi but bene's passive allows her to escape his ult
True bit benedetta can still escape cause of the passive skill
And also Tigreal's 2nd skill
Phoveus and paq also wanwan?
If he is good counter on those hero then tell me why he isn't popular yet
Minsitthar: being forgotten
Terizla: Finally a worthy opponent
True,i have all of terizla's skins except
His normal one.
@@zaneflores3963 broooo same!
@@zaneflores3963 terizla was kinda good but noe he's just too slow for the meta
Terizla is strong with war axe but i cant see anyone using him
Lmao
Buff:
Skill 1: Faster animation
Skill 2: Auto lock skill
Ultimate: Bigger range
And add more mobility to this Hero, because meta tank heroes this day have good mobility
Also make his ult strict some heroes can still dash inside like wanwan and lance
Skill 2 would be better if it has wider range imo
he doesnt need more mobility. all he needs is ult damage scaling
Here's a good idea for his Ult:
If you dash/blink inside his Ult (wether it be from inside to outside or outside to inside), you get knocked back to the center of the Circle and stunned for 2 secs. No more dash ban
@@Nova-tl4yc wait, that's actually a good idea
He is adapted from Myanmar king named Kyansittha.I like enjoy playing him time to time.He has alot of cc skills and he can play in offlane and also as a roamer as well.🌸
Not just all that, but also his hook, there are always often times that you do hit the enemies but it doesn’t actually hook them since they’re either at the edge or to the side of the 1st skill..
Ok
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Yes that's such a bad thing for his hook also, lmaooo isoya everywhere again XD and I frickin love it
I also noticed that Lou Yi was hooked, but instead of pulling Lou Yi, it just damage her which makes her escape 🤣🤣
I think the problem is the casting speed, like when the animation is just so slow, it doesn't hook always...
"He never really shined throughout his MLBB life" ,Actually he's the first real counter to Fanny when she was if not one the most powerful heroes, It's just that Khufra was released and outshined him in terms of effectivity.
Correct! But a counter to good Khufra is a good Minsi. I couldn't Ult inside Minsi Ult
@@a_very_burnt_steak no! what I'm saying is as an anti blink-er Khufra is better,He got knock up, stun ,a bit of heal,etc
@@joshuamm21 Yes, that's what I meant too.
@@a_very_burnt_steak Fanny can still escape his ult with cables. Because "adjustments"
@@PanginoongCockroach yes i know that
Me lembro como se fosse ontem... era a Season 18, estava de benedetta (meu antigo main, o qual alcancei top estadual) e a segunda maior surra que já levei foi contra o Misintar... a primeira foi contra o Kaja.
Excelente vídeo! O Brasil te acompanha também!
I love minsithar and have played him in the side lane and tank role recently. When you build him with 1 attack item like endless or war axe and then breastplate and defensive items, he can pretty much kill mages and marksmen when you land a combo, if you build him tank you are pretty much a cc nightmare for enemies and the anti dash ult really limits heroes like fanny, wanwan, ling and many more very annoying opponents. But if you dont get to scale along with your counterpart in lane or arent effective with your roams as tank, minsithar kinda falls off easily because he easily gets overwhelmed when underleveled and under itemed.
If they were to buff him i think faster skill animations specially his first, so that its still efective even if you are in battle and not setting up an ambush. Or additional movement speed on his second skill or ultimate so that you can better chase and get that passive to proc more.
True. Though i dont read all your point. I read that your conclusion suggest something true about him. He is nightmare for both assasin and marksman. Maybe not mage cuz mage usually will kill you first
True at this point giving minsitthar damage just doesn't feel right
I agree on faster animation on 1st since the pull has delay. I guess buff his ult some enemy can still escape like wanwan just use 2nd skill boom U Can dash, Lance still can use ult(base what I've seen in my last matches) or casting 2nd skill then spam dash skills to abuse immunity then dash, Ling from my last fight he still can escape using ult.
Maybe make his ult very strict in no dash permission inside my zone.
Also good fanny users can just go in and out of the ult.
@@kierzsenpai3542 bro.
Let me tell you something. Though minshitar ult is a very good counter for these hero, that doesnt mean he cant be defeated by them. I mean, ling can use his ult to escape, that only happen if he have his ult. wan wan on the other hand using his basic attack, which is pretty much a passive dash, no one can blame her for that. But lance using dash, that different. Im not sure because last time i play against minshitar with lance. Damn he soft lock me. Cant even move.
Lastly fanny escaping combo is a very normal thing. The only way to lock her down is using knockback
@@fatehruzman9280 yeah this whole Minsithar thing kinda reminds me back the local tournament on our Christmas party when the enemy bans Khuf obviously they'll pick heroes with dash skills so I proceed to use Minsi as our tank. The stress of my teammates didn't know our enemy Lance and Wanwan can still do dash inside. Well at least where 2nd place. Time to sleep
Minsitthar is a really overpowered hero if used properly.
Minsitthar Damage Build:
Op Build:
-Warrior or Tough Boots
-Blade of Heptaseas
-Blade of Despair
-Endless Battle
-Scarlet Phantom/Berserker's
-Berserker's Fury/ Scarlet Phantom
Combo: 1st skill when hit use 2nd skill to stun then use 3rd and do some basic attacks. use 2nd skill if they still in your range again if the skill is available if they escape drag them back with 1st skill.
Recommended Emblem: Assassin/Fighter
I prioritized upgrading the: Ult Skill first then the 2nd and lastly the 1st
Battle Spells: Flicker, Execute or Inspire
Recommended Battle Spell: Inspire (cause of the lifesteal and armor reduction) this good if you wanna play Minsitthar as a Damage Dealer.
Tips: If the enemy already in the range of your 2nd skill don't use the 1st skill only use it when they trying to escape.
I like how his first skill can pass through minions and creeps making it easier to hook enemies.
I agree with this build he is pretty tanky even without defense items because of his 2nd skill and not to mention whenever you use 2nd skill and gain a shield you have time to lifesteal from the enemies until your shield runs out
lol they really thought Minsitthar is trash even with damage items...
his ult isn't the main damager it's his basic attack and 2nd skill they are underestimating his 2nd skill
bruh i tested your advice and it's actually damn op why wait for your teammates to kill for your passive to work when you can kill and give money to your team instead
Minsi is more like a support, building him with attack items only increases his shield form skill 2 rather than giving him damage
He is pantheon
He's Great with Damage when I use him with my builds.
Lol you clearly never play Minsi in real game. I’m Minsi main player and I always build the attack item only. Too bad if you think he’s only for supporting, chances are you just don’t know how to play him as a fighter.
Just put petrify for minsi and he will be so op as hell no joke i just build damage items and some armor and he's so deadly bruh
@@dbeast8005 Noob player will never understand how strong Minsi is
Minsithar is the shy, lonely boy sitting in the corner of the classroom.
I played Minsittar recently and kind of experimented the ideal build for him. Now, I played him as a tank/support with "encourage" roam blessing.
I think one problem is that minsi skills are sometimes inconsistent. His first skill is slower, compared to Franco hook, hence easier to dodge. His second skill is also awkward, because sometimes, you stun your enemy, but sometimes it is just shoving it away. His ult is fine tho since it counter blink heroes
It only stuns on first target the rest shoves away. Yeah his 1st is delay and even it dmg the enemy it didn't pull especially at the very end of the spear.
oy i can hit more hooks with minsi more than franko.
probably because players dont know that franko's hook cant pass through minions and enemy players
@@handsomemug3342 umm can pass through with Franco's hook?
@@handsomemug3342 U mean minsi hook can pass through minions right?
Lol his hook is more faster than Franco's hook plus it can pass through minions XD
As a user of Minsi occasionally, I think the problems are the following:
- Minsi has almost no damage compare to other fighters or even tank and support, even though you build him attack items.
- Minsi is not as tanky as other tanks or fighters even though you build him defensive items.
- Minsi has short stun on second skill and it has kinda long cooldown compare to other tanks or fighters, some fighters and tanks can stun you like forever and can do it over and over again.
- Minsi's hook rarely caught anyone since it can be easily avoided and it has a short range.
- Minsi's Ult almost do nothing except anti-dash which an be easily avoided since some dash heroes has immunity and movement speed boost.
- Sometimes Minsi can help enemies escape since he can only stun one and push back others so if a low enemies was push back they can easily escape and sometime it pushes enemies outside his Ult.
This is just my experience with him...
You should try this build: Magic Shoes, Thunder Belt, BOD. The rest are flex tank items.
I use this build and find that it make me strong enough to solo most marksmen and assasssins but also tanky enough to last in a team fight as a pseudotank.
A lot of people underestimate how much damage his Ultimate does with one BOD and end up investing either fully into tank or fully into fighter. I find that fighter builds make him overall way too squishy but tank builds just make him do no damage at all.
From my 280 Minsittar games of experience, the single bod build with thunderbelt is the best build because BOD makes the ultimate hit really hard against squishies and thunderbelt gives good slow and true damage to keep them in your ultimate. The three flex tank items ensure that if you make a mistake you will live.
@@anaqin3179 thanks
U can use build 40% cdr its legit build but if you find enemy like benet and wanwan say goodbye to your stars
Bro, notice War axe and Hunter knives passives doesn't activate while using his ULT, which is PRETTY SUCKS. IT'S SKILL A DAMAGE SKILL.
@@paulandreig.sahagun34 use oracle to increase his sec skills shield.
The first two skills are fine, the main way to fix him is pretty simple, give his Ultimate a slow effect, or maybe even give the troops during his ultimate scaling, in a way that they can borrow minsitthars attack speed, making them attack faster
As a minsitthar main since 2017, I'd say his role is to support in early game while try to give some damage output during mid and late game. He also is a good sustain due to his 2nd ability you should try spamming it by combining fighter and tank items.
For me the only good part of Minsithar is about the pull/hook because it ignores the god forsaken minions on the way.
If you play Franco you will understand how it feels.
No it's his ult being to fully counter someone like ling
He's hook is really short and easy to dodge compare to Franco
And he's role is a fighter which makes forgotten because he's damage is too low
@@FlugelRai tbh i find minsitthar's hook much more easier than franco
@@dfnmhfhrexfgb8659 well you ain't wrong it's a lot easier since it ignores minions but it's more predictable than Franco since Franco can just hook you without even seeing him but for minsitar you have to go alot closer which makes it obvious
I used to main this hero when he was launched in the official server. I sometimes use him as a substitute tank in rank mode because of his skill set being a great counter for blink heroes.
I think if his shield is target locked it can change the game. Since his shield bash is shorter than harith penis, it often missed and outranged.
My first favorite fighter he’s fun and easy to play, sucks that he didn’t really become popular.
His ult is a menace to every dashing hero, particularly every assassin that ever existed.
except bullshit benedetta
How could I forget my main fighter, my main daily driver in climbing ranks
Elgin: Why can't someone use the hero "minisitthar" in the game?
Me: "His mana may be decreasing at times, and his skills may need to be adjusted."
Legit, his manas are Super bad at early game if you wanted to compete with other non-mana and energy stack heroes on exp. Which kinda unfair for Moonton for this hero. Plus his damage doesn't have good features nor his skills.
Deym, you too play mlbb xD
Minsittar would actually be in the meta if he had more damage on his ulti, and has a pull effect that pulls enemies to the center, faster hook animation, longer and wider range on his skill 2, and maybe a movement speed boost if he lands his skill 2, and hook, reason why he would be good in the meta is because he counters heroes like lance who has a lot of dash skills, can render flicker useless because of the no dash debuff, that makes him effective against marksman like Clint, brody, and other marksman that arent basic attack reliant, has a dash skill, and prefers to use flicker instead of inspire,his ultimate is useful in teamfights restricting the enemies position and movement by silencing their dash skills, and even flicker,marksman wont be able to reposition themselves, and if they were able to, theyd get pulled by minsittars hook.
He should be readjusted like Nana
Turn him into Tank/Support
Yep no damage
Yep no damage
I love mins, just wish they would do something about him and I would definitely use him more often ❤️
My bf is a Minsi main and to be fair, we do win a lot of games when our teammates let him play the tank role, but he can also dominate the exp lane if you master him completely and know how to use the combo.
Very very weak damage but with his ult, cc and petrify, the enemy can’t escape that easily if you managed to hook them into the turret, plus he’s a headache to Harley player or any other blink heroes.
Quite fun to have an experienced Minsitthar in your team, but is best as a tank in exp lane or roam, otherwise too squishy imo.
I feel like he’d be on the top tier list if he received a proper buff.
When Khufra was Meta in my region and was getting banned, whenever enemy picked Lance Ling Gus Chou, we picked Minsi to counter, not to mention he can stop any enemy from escaping with dash, he's also a Hard counter for paquito who is a Meta laner/Jungler now. He is a counterpick hero
Try minsi and john combo
Tbh it's not his hook that I find hard about him but instead his 2nd skill landing his hook is actually quite easy with the help of flicker but his 2nd is harder because it can only stun one target and also unnecessarily pushes the enemies around the one that was stunned plus the target can also be a jungle creep and a minion so in exp lane stunning the enemy is hard since you can stun the minions and accidentally push the enemy
I also agree with him lacking damage it's the reason why playing him as a roamer is more fun and better than playing him as an exp laner
at the thumbnail i recognized minsitthar because i still play him with my friends
I like him he has everything I want . Counter blink , hook , stun ♥️. Perfect !!!!
I'm a mage main and whenever there's a need of tank against blinking heroes, Minsi is the answer and often I get MVP.
Elgin: Do you remember him now?
Me who is a Burmese player: Always has been 🤧🥲
He was my one of my favorite hero before many meta heroes released. I would love to play again after his revamp. But the new design doesn't look like our real King. I prefer the old design 👑
I still remember during the old days of moonton when he was released thqt top bans were him kimmy, martis, kadita and Esmeralda.
@@jamescar8085 So do I :"(
Me too bro.I really hope the developers will revam him soon.
@@JustACatWithSunglasses A full commitments what i'm thinking of
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The big glaring issues are slow ability cast and the fact that you can damage enemies with the hook but if there at the very end it won't pull them, unlike frankos you can be a foot off and still hook.
I would boost 3 things of him:
1. Passive. When ahead gain the normal stats when behind get the double amount. This can be a game changer in late game.
2. His ult needs to deal more dmg or do more slow and more protection.
This can be aquired by faster attack speed of the guards, or changing to HP based dmg.
The protection just like 30/40/60 and half for teammates and slow 40% instead of 20%
3. The dmg on skill 1 and 2 just not extra attack dmg but total physical attack dmg. But this is not important. If his ult and passive get a boost it is already enough.
He definitely needs to get reworked. I got to master him when he was still new but after that I never really used him unless it's either him or an assassin that I have to choose during a brawl match and yes I use him as a tank/support for his control skills as well.
Yeh
Also moonton decided him to be adjusted or reworked or revamped
Hehe
I love using Minsi! Back when I was in low rank I like to use him as a fighter but he doesn't really have that damage. I now use him as a tank/roamer. I honestly forgot his passive but now it's clear why I always notice I get more gold when getting kills and assists. I guess I should read more :3
Idiot why use tank minsi gm
Minsitthar is one of my favorite heroes, no one can see the potential of this hero because most players focus on damage and kills, but they never realized that simple crowd control effects are very deadly to enemies. almost every play I use Minsitthar and I always win thanks to his crowd control. one of the underrated but one of the best
I prefer him as a tank, it's convenient, high hp also second skill gain armor and movement speed bonus, enough to hold the enemy and distract them
I used Minsitthar before, the most annoying thing that his skill can be easily dodged by enemy heroes
u just cant hit bruh
Yeah, hos skills are just so slow
Elgin: Who is this hero?
Me: I'm gonna make sure you remember his name.
Edit: He's pretty good when paired with other anti dash heroes, such as Phoveus, Khufra and Akai (Akai can activate Phoveus' ult and can also push the enemies to the anti dash team)
Isn't phoveus is a bad combo with minsitthar since phoveus needs the enemies to blink meanwhile minsitthar cancels blinks
@@selocha4367 yeah it’s isn’t good for your teammate but it is bad for the enemy phov.
Lol phoveus paired with minsithar?
Minsi: Hooks and pushes (if the enemies are close). But that's just 2 blink... Eh whatever.
But phoveous can mark the enemy that has been pushed and using minisithhar 2nd skill on a group of enemy he can mark many enemies if the time is right phoveous can jump 5 times without using any other skills because minisithhar skill 1 pull can mark 1 and 2nd can stun 1 and knock back 4 and mark 4
Finally someone care about Minsithar. He's my main like almost half of the match's I played
I actually liked this hero because of this video, minsittar is flexible as a tank, and he fulfill he's role as an initiator better than other initiators, just need a few adjustment and it's all perfect, i think this video will help for montoon realize what minsittar is capable of ✨
Tips for playing minsithar if u use pertrify: Use petrify first then second skill, beacause petrify has quicker animation so its easier to hit with second skill if u always miss
He's a good counter against dashing heroes, but so is Phoveous. Smashing enemies and gaining a lot of shield. Take note that his skill cd lowers whenever enemies around dash.
I would prefer Phoveus over him, build CoD and Ice queen Wand, and he can be unstoppable. I love watching enemies having a hard time deciding if they'll just run or dash.
it's really easy to walk away from minsi's ult, and it never even lands properly.
I think this is the start of minsithar getting a good revamp
I love playing him as tank, he is so good against blink heroes , and I spam in classic as tank a lot. And it work sooo good. And he is super fun to play.. even I use him in rank sometimes but as roamer not fighter, he is super good support
I prefer playing minsitthar as a tank because he has good crowd control skills and also with tanky builds, you can last in team fights longer.
Maybe you dont use minsi that much.if youre on fighter build, Just use his second in teamfight and you'll get a vast amount of spell vamp....
Minssithar is my favourite because he used to counter ling and fanny
I always using Minsithar when I want to do a fighter tank, I boost his Cool-down reduction and defense, then some slowing items, it is my favorite fighter. I think I can cast 5-6 stun and hooks every clash if my cd reduc maxes.
"History has long forgotten me"
-Terizla
Theory: Minsitharr was created to stop harith from destroying the meta, but since he was nerfed to the ground, Minsitharr then served almost no purpose but only to other heroes with multiple blink skills.
If you look at the mlbb fandom, Minsitthar released after harith
Minsitthar’s ult used to be big but now it’s small
@@-.-1 it used to big when he was in advanced server
Minsi's amount of emotional damage due to his ults ineffectiveness
-Passive dashes can't be affected (wanwan, alu,ruby)
-Immune skill heroes can still dash on his ult (lance for example, dunno about benedetta's ult but both have immune)
-His skillset is single target while his ult has this huge aoe (basically contradicting the purpose of the ult)
-Does not stop dash animations
Bro, Check it and it's legit. War axe and Hunter's knives passives doesn't work as well while using his ULT. Which is literally a Damage skill.
They should make the ult apply on hit effects so we can have a semi-mm/semi-fighter and half tank build so he's more dependent on the damage factor which he seems to be lacking a lot, if you try to fix that problem, he'll be too squishy to stay in fights too much.
Minsi is actually a good hero because of his kit that really benefits teamfights and a lot of players cannot manage to play him right and well (I usually build 1st item as corrosion scythe to match up with his low dmg +to utilize his ULT in 1v1 situations) considering his passive that gives gold, this hero is really more capable of being support/tank than being in the sides
I always use Minsitthar in Rank games whenever there is a great setter and He deals a lot of damage to marksman who have any blink skills,it would be great if he had a revamp
Special tip:
Focus on assist not on kill if you are gonna use Minsitthar,It will be easier if you help them kill in order you will have lots of gold
He's strong but his so underrated in this metaಠ︵ಠ
minishitar now is over peowered by the arrival of new heroes i remember when i play classic games way back 2019 2018 there was minishitar always in my team i hope he will get revamp soon
Thank for highlighting my best hero. His good on dash heroes except Benedetta. Good at early game and tank his not a fighter he locks combo damage
Update:Demon hunter and Golden Staff bug is already fixed.
How about Minsitthar's ult doesn't activates War axe and Hunter knive's passive.
Just bring back his old ultimate AOE range while he is still in advanced server and increase his AOE for his 2nd skill. And also make his 1st skill faster. Reduce his damage if you find the mentioned changes OP. He is a CC fighter like Ruby and not damage fighter like Martis
martis is both cc and damage fighter , but only early-mid game
Minsitthar is a forgotten hero but he can counter hero with dash or escape skill and that's good
I really like his passive the free gold you get just from playing the game is too 😊
He's actually a pretty good utility fighter or a tank/ support...Trying to build damage is kind of a mistake..I Kindda go with tanky items that also have some damage..plus his ult if used properly can give u an easy time in teamfights...HE KINDDA SUCKS AS A FIGHTER BUT IS A GREAT SUPPORT...But tbh they should just change his role to support
I'm a killer minsi in Mythic 3 with 65% wr..
Minsi's damage is actually quite sneaky.
I do KS as emblem and execute as spell.
Build path:
Tough Shoes
Core Items:
Endless Battle
Blade of Despair
Berserker
Defensive Item:
Immortality
Athena
Dominance Ice.
I rarely build Cuirass to him since the shield provided in his second is quite sustainable in team fights (if you know how to use it)
Lol let’s duel if you think Minsi as fighter sucks. More like you as the player who sucks
@@brandMason Damn u must have a lot of free time...Don't know ur rank but most 9layers of my tier stick to the meta 8r their counters..I don't meet many minsi but I generally use him as a tank or utility fighter....BUT DON'T BOTHER ANSWERINV MY RANK QUESTION...Everybody knows in which rank we meet players who are like" Come Custom"...And lastly ML is a team game...unless it's a 5 v 5 u can't really comment on how good the hero is so 1 v1 won't prove anything
@@brandMason and even Elgin's playing minsi as a support and said his damage is bad. ... So why don't u invite elgin for a custom match...U might even get a chance to appear in a video of his..Isn't that what u random Sttention seekers desire the most...
@@slaveinutero9542 Too bad, I'm a top 1 Minsi in Canada and top 3 in world rank. Don't make me laugh with the rank question. You guys are noobs and suck just accept it.
Elgin what? he doesn't even know Minsi combo like pfttt. He's a CZcamsr making content about ML but clearly just a noob player.
Noob like you will never understand the true power of a hero because you just pick the metas. Come at me 1 vs 5, I'll beat your all ass in 15 minutes noobs
I find him more as a tank/support then a fighter since most of my matches playing as him- I find myself using him as a roamer more, since his skill is almost completely CC based, with a passive that give him gold when his ally kill and his ally get gold when he kill.
tell me that isn't a support ability?
Yes the slow hook animation is the problem. And also the ultimate isn't as anti dash as it seems cause tons of heroes has burst movement skills.
Funny thing is that, I didn't really noticed the presence of wanwan until she got the SAVAGE
Woudl be good if his Ultimate effect would stay with him like floating air. OR if it like, explode and the "unblinkable" effect will last up to 5-7-9 seconds to the enemies hit.
Or maybe have more warriors or a bigger area ult,that would be good because he doesn't have much warriors and he has soo little area for his ult
@@treeguardien As big as Gatotkaca's ULT diameter is enough, don't you think?🤔
IMHO he's neither here nor there : His damage output is not as good as other fighters, his defensive stats are not as good as other tanks, his mobility is limited, simply put there are way too many alternatives that can do a much better job than him, and picking him usually puts your team at a disadvantage.
His hook is fairly usable but there's a laughable delay and the range indicator isn't optimised.
His stun also comes with a delay, and its narrow hit box can cause it to miss even at ridiculously close ranges (Sometimes miss even at point blank, you gotta see it to believe it).
His ult is truly great tho, but walking out of it is also fairly easy due to its rather limited aoe(Waiting for the enemies to spend their mobility skills prior to ulting helps, but really it doesn't matter as much as you'd think).
I recently played a game where I saw Wan² literally leap out of my ult's aoe after using her 2nd skill(Probably during her small window of debuff immunity).
Having said all that, I actually still pick him as a counter to Fanny users when Khufra is banned, because he's quite easy to use. However, take note that it still won't work well against good Fanny users. Khufra is a much better choice in almost all scenarios, if you need to stop high-mobility heroes.
Im minsi main here, what I like about him is CC, hook and stun plus battle spell petrify, that is why I Usually play him as tank because of the defence bonus from his ultimate which complements him in tank role. I build him def items with cooldown reduction to maximize spamming his CC skills. While playing him as tank I realize that he is really good pairing with a good teammates just like the video said.
There are a lot of good combo with him as tank. To compensate for the shorter range of his hook, I use ulti + hook combo. Then I use the extra jump from his ulti to reach further which surprises enemies. Once you caught someone they are as good as dead due to stun and dash lock. But always remember, bring a teammate ahaha
He's pretty good actually ... he's a unsung unpopular counter for assassin dash hero ...the shield from his skill 2 is actually quite nice if you left w 1 HP , his shield can be helpful for his survivability... overall after using him several matches , he can counter many meta hero and maybe if moonton fix his skill 1 to be more precise maybe he'll be more popular pick
the ultimate of minsitthar should be also able to push tower so that he can be more of a picked hero
Minsitthar has alot of escape skills, but there are alot of problems with him, these are the cons by the way.
1. His slow animation from his first skill, the enemy has a bit of time to react before he land his first skill on them.
2. His ultimate. His ultimate will be useless because the enemy can easily escape when he doesn't place his ultimate properly,
3. He is weak in any build.
4. He can be squishy building him attack build, especially when the enemy has alot of good burst skills.
5. He is easy to catch off guard, this is when your allies are either dead or far away from you, when you don't land your second and ultimate properly on them, there's a chance that the enemy can kill you since you didn't land your skills properly to them.
This is the Pros now
1. He can catch high mobility heroes by chance
2. His ultimate won't allow the enemies to use their spells and skills. (Idk about regen)
3. He has a stun that gives him a time to kill that squishy hero.
4. He is tanky in tank build. He can be always built in tank build because he is tanky and giving his allies a chance to go to their bankline
Idk
I bought him and the only thing is a regret😌 like you said He's not a solo hero and his hooks is very predictable and short. Can't wait to use again once the Moonton revamp him.
The problem is some other players don't know how to properly use minsi. But I think, minsi is one of thd dependable heroes sa ml. i used him either as semi tank and/ or tank.
- First, about his spear hook, it has the advantage of ignoring the creeps on its way, however, you must always be aware of its distance and accuracy... It must be straight line, unexpected hook example (a) pag nachachase Ka and malapit Ka sa tower pwede Ka ma SS sa tower, hook, saka shield or (B) ginagamit din to if the enemy is in place and confident ang kalaban Di mo sya mahook, (C) also use if enemy escapes from his SS. Setter hero and Initiator Yan. You must always be accurate, confident, and must choose wisely when to SS and Hook.
- In terms of one on one Laning, he is not like other heroes na pang one v one, that's why your tower is your friend- tower hug ang play Nyan. however, this is the only way ma outsmart mo ang kalaban, especially if wala pang items. Patience LNG need mo. Di madadaling mapenetrate ang tower plus minsithar especially may ss Ka at durable items mo. Typically pag may pro minsi, especially Kung ubus na ang lane towers, minsi is capable of defending his ground especially ang base nila. Hanggang buhay ang minsi sa last game, Di yan madali mapenetrate. As long as may kasama.
-Hindi Lang pang stun ang skill 2 nya, lagyan mo pa Ng oracle saka emblem Yan, kahit kaunti life Nyan, makakasurvive Ka sa skill 2 nya. Pero kinakailangan mo mamamaster ang distansya and saka Tamang timing. It is for his shield, it's how he can survive especially pag clash na. Add ons Lang ang stun.
Minsittar is very versatile. His strength are team fighting and lockdown a hero. His passive makes him the ideal roamer where he benefits from both killing and his team getting kills which can give him an advantage on the enemy roamer. As a EXP laner he is very slow and is better duo in exp or roaming. His bread and butter is that ult, but its very situational and in exchange for that he gains a lot of defense from using it and staying in it.
Here I want to adjust ministrar so that he’s used more often: his passive should be kept the same but it give more gold if ministrar gets the kill, or If it is going to be changed then make it so he increases Ally def and res based of his assists and doubled if it’s a kill, as a king that fights with his troops he should boost their morale. His first skill can be kept the same but I believe the stun should be instant like Franco’s hook, not be delayed after it hits the target. In retrospect that’s probably why the stun is delayed, to travel it’s full distance and pull, but it should still be faster. His shield bash should give him more shield if he uses it inside his ult to make him even more tanks while that’s up. Finally I think his ult should be a pseudo-suppression effect so that ALL blink AND immunity skills are blocked. This ult is completely useless against Ling ult/Ruby/Wanwan/Lancelot ult, to name a few who can completely immune his ult. His ult should make him basically invincible when he uses it and should be a real punishing move, but most heros in this game can just get out or have built in immunes that nullify him. If I had to change his ult, I would make the guards follow him with him in the center and either add 1 more guard and lower the damage and make the guards lower defense or magic resistance. I want him to at this point get less damage and more defense and utility to his team. I want him to rebuff the enemies while buffing his allies.
Thank you for saying this out loud. He’s a unique hero but he has too many issues to be deemed a proper champion to be used in high rank.
To make him go to meta instantly is to apply basic attack effects from items to his ult's clones
If you want to build minsi into a pure fight use fighter emblem then put all in attack/pen and disabling strike.
Build: corrosion schyte,blade of despair, Hunter strike, thunder belt and any of these items depending on the enemy -oracle, immortality, boots (any).
I heard that he's a counter hero for ling, because of his ulti, that can disable the opponents basic attack, and right timing as well.
I remember,in season 10 where Harith was OP af he was used closely every game when the enemy picked Harith or the team with Harith picked him, just to dont let the enemy pick it. But after Haeith died and Phoveus got released, there are no reason to pick him.
I've been playing Minsitthar as a Fighter. And usually I would dominate the Gold Lane when up against a solo laning Marksman. In late game, I dealt enough damage to knockout their squishies. It satisfy me a lot. Although doesn't become as useful in the late game.
All he needs is buffed ult damage, lowering the delay of his 2nd skill, and a revamp of his 1st skill pull.
I've been using minsitthar since his first release and got Top 1 Global Minsitthar at one point and he's actually too op since he can counter most of the hero because of his op ult, the fact that his hook can pass through minions and his passive which makes him impossible to get delay on gold and yet I barely see him at ranked games
I think it would be a great buff to make the 4 clones of his ult scale with his attack speed and trigger on hit effects.
this way he would become an on-hit fighter-bruiser like badang mixed with franco's suppressive CC
The problems for minisitar is that his spare can see before he full if they hide the vision of his spare that will be better. n his ultimate attack is so slow if they make it fast or better change it.
If they decreased CD and increased damage, maybe made his shield smash have him hold the shield out for 1 second to block attacks, he'd be good.
In my opinion, Minsithar's hook is easier to land especially cuz it ignores minions & is a bit wider than Franco's hook. But the problem is that punishing the hooked enemy is difficult cuz of short range due to which is difficult to isolate an enemy long enough before their teammates can rescue them. Flicker hook also doesn't work, instead u drop the enemy where they were when u flickered.
Elgin:who is minsitar again?
Me: a warrior of my country🇲🇲
The problem is that even Wan Wan and Ruby's short dash can be triggered in the ultimate.
His Ultimate is the ace up his sleeve. We often pick minsithar when the enemy have high mobility skills and engage skills. What I've experienced with him is he levels up slower than most heroes and yes he deals a decent amount of damage but in the long run he is out damaged by others, his tankiness comes in handy during those to just play a support semi-tank.
*Hope Montoon revamps his passive, like when he deals damage he recieves increased movement speed or skill cooldown or like damage increase for him and his teammates around him. Idk 😆