Suzume Isn't "Different"
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
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MUSIC:
Serani Poji - 夜の喫茶店
Revolutionary Girl Utena OST - PASSIONATE (Apasionada)
Revolutionary Girl Utena OST - Temptation
Serani Poji - 地球人のカラダ
Maimi Tanaka - Miracle Shopping
Clarifications for the trauma bit because I have been getting a lot of comments about it:
I am aware of the cultural impact that this has had with Japanese viewers and others who may have experienced repercussions from the 2011 tsunami. In no way am I trying to disrespect or negate those feelings. This is an extremely subjective movie but at the end of the day I personally still view it as a movie. What I was criticizing was how the trauma plotline itself felt extremely forced and out of the blue, specifically during the scene where her aunt is being controlled by that stupid cat. I couldn't show it because the trailers don't have the footage so I can see how people misinterpreted it, but I was referring solely to that scene. The trauma could've still been implemented and given weight without the aunt spelling it all out for us. I honestly would have found it more impactful if we were given some more room to imagine what Suzume was feeling. This falls in line with the rest of my points about how the film tried to juggle too many different themes and ultimately fell flat (for me) in every respect because it couldn't decide what to focus the most on. I didn't dislike this movie for trying to incorporate trauma, I just wish it did it a little better and didn't feel somewhat forced in. I'm happy for everyone who was able to get more out of this than I was.
Haruhi is very different
Haruhi would never mess up a movie ever.
damn right
Thank you Suzumiya-san
Saying Haruhi is very "different" in any context is the understatement of the century.
We can always trust Haruhi to be different
It's so wild to hear Shinkai himself say he wanted this movie to be about two girls instead, because I vividly remember people mocking this movie when the first teasers dropped because of the obvious joke "they'll write a love story between a girl and a chair before they write a love story between two girls".
that gay
I'm not that surprised tbh, seeing how the romance was super out of the blue in Suzume. It would have made a lot of sense if it was 2 girls on a friendship journey.
If he wants to make a romantic movie then the whole plot point about the worms need to be toned down a lot, to give Suzume's and Sota's relationship the space it needs to breathe and grow properly. If Suzume and Sota had remained friends (which seems to be the original intent) then the movie wouldn't have felt as choked.
it was supposed to be friendship but he was told to do romance, not like he wanted to do romance between 2 girls
@@hagahong3327 It seems like he didn’t, but was forced both further along that line, and to make it more conventional.
I think it would have been more interesting from a “people bonding” perspective since it was filled with Suzume interacting and bonding with many different female characters (Chika, Rumi, Tamaki) while still trying to process the loss of her mother. It would have made the most sense for Souta to instead be a female sensei-type as well. Doesn’t even necessarily have to turn romantic but I think he was like “if I have to do this, a lesbian relationship is more interesting)
Which is a damn shame to see even someone as successful and “auteur” as Shinkai still getting bullied out of his vision by bean counters.
He’s been chasing the Your Name high for two straight movies now, and while I enjoy them, I really want him to break free and only do what he wants.
worst part is im pretty sure the love intrest is 21 and suzume 17…
It's different because they never had a relationship with a chair before
You might be onto something
this chair
This sounds like something Dunkey would say
Me looking at the... naughty stuff... T-T
Fun fact: The director wanted it to be a lesbian love story but wasn't allowed so he logically went with chair.
I liked the travel aspect of Suzume. The moments where she was riding around in the car with her aunt and Souta's friend were very refreshing. Yeah, the main plot may have benefitted from cutting out some of the fat, but it was a pretty feel good movie with all of the people Suzume bonded with along the way.
I think reminding the audience about socializing and people's warmth is one of the message the movie is trying to send to us. Especially the people in japan remembering how individualistic their society tends to be.
I remember seeing how starkly different Suzume was treated when she looked lost in Tokyo (with ripped clothes and bloody sock-clad foot). Instead of getting offered help like during in Ehime and Kobe, people talked behind her back and the only person who helped her is the newly acquainted Serizawa
I wish he leaned harder into the travel aspect, have Suzume close a door by imagining a story she’d been told by a local or something. Connect the travel aspect of the plot to the supernatural part, lean further into the theme of abandonment in general.
There were pieces of a more unique theme here, from the traveling to the abandoned places to Suzume telling her younger self she’ll grow up even without her mother and her old home. It just seems messy and confused when the more formulaic shinkai elements need to be included.
Completely agree if you look at it it literally went around Japan the landscapes and the musics just transported me
I enjoyed that too, but I felt like it was out of place. It just became anticlimactic from that point since we're already expecting that the plot was moving forward with her finding a way to save Sōta. The tension was already there and then it suddenly dropped to give way to her and her aunt's confrontation subplot.
@@aeoligarlic4024 Yeah. To think Suzume was out there risking her life for her. 😂
The way i describe it is that if shinkai's usual movies are "mildly paranormal disaster romance movie" then suzume is a "mildy romantic paranormal disaster movie"
This honestly is the best way I’ve heard to describe this movie yet
I really feel like Suzume is definitely more of a Japanese culture film than anything else. The main message in the end is literally just the consistant phrases of goodbye and im off, as well as just focusing on the importance of home, but from a Japanese lense
I think Suzume puts coping with the trauma of lost ones, especially from natural disasters (the 2011 Great Tohoku Earthquake being the driving point of the story), moving past it and closing that chapter (metaphorically by closing doors) as the focal point. I appreciate for it even though as a west european it doesn't hit me as much emotionally. The "romance" admittedly took a backseat as the second half is just Suzume trying to bring back Sota, for a relationship that clearly seemed one-sided.
As enjoyable the road-trip aspect & character interactions often can be, I now start to question how much that second half was really needed.
@@ptrcrispy Each pert of the road trip is more reminders to Suzume about the themes of the film, mainly about her relationship with her aunt, which is a huge part of what beings her closure in the end as well. The whole road trip was priming her to be able to face herself at the end.
Right, the themes of the movie are unapologetically Japanese.
In the past few decades, there's been an exodus of people leaving rural communities that were their ancestral homes and into the big cities. This resulted in many abandoned buildings and towns across the Japanese countryside, and this movie is very much addresses this phenomenon.
Also, while I don't think it's accurate to say 3/11 was Japan's 9/11, it's something that weighs on the public conscious and collective trauma in a similar way. I think the way that this film dealt with the delicate subject was appreciated.
@@ptrcrispy suzume gave me trauma by including daijin.
home 👎
home, japan 😍😍😍
I mostly enjoyed it cause the guy was a chair for most the movie. I haven’t seen any chair protagonists before, so I think it’s neat they’re finally getting some anime representation.
Hoping for the table representation in the next movies...
table kun hide nina is coming
I went to see it on the cinema with my family and there's two things I loved.
First, there is the ending of the "I'm looking for my mom" story line. It felt real, not magical, just real. Sometimes, people get lost and are never found, and the ones that remember them never get closure, or the last goodbye.
And second. The noise. I live in a country that has a lot of earthquakes and they NAILED the sound. Made me look around for the emergency exit a few times. The songs were good, but the actual sound of the incoming earthquake and the silence before, perfect.
The sound design was amazing
i think the beauty of suzume is in the natural disasters. the lost and pain from losing real people in the 2011 tohuku earthquakes. i dont think american or younger audiences understand it very well. it was a big hit with my parents since they remember the effects the earthquake had on worldwide news. look into the disasters and give the movie another shot! i only really appreciated it when i read up on the history!
I really agree here. Before I watched the move, I read in an article about the inspiration, how it was influenced by the trauma and pain caused from earthquake like the one happening 2011 in tohuku, and I think this knowledge really helped me to understand the movie a lot better. If I remember correctly, there were also different locations shown in the movie which were hit by massive earthquakes in the past ( I think a part of Suzume was set in Kobe where the other big earthquake I know of happend). I feel like this knowledge made me understand this movie a lot better than I would have otherwise. And while yes, it is a great movie on it's own, it is - at least for me - the product of an artist trying to deal with painful events his country has expirenced in the past which in the end made it different from the other pieces of media I have consumed in the last months.
Not only the 2011 tsunami disaster. They also show here the place which has the most destructive earthquake in Japanese history like Kobe, Tokyo and tohoku region.
Kobe - 1990 Kobe Earthquake
Tokyo - 1920s great Kanto earthquake (even daijin said here that "history will repeat itself" during the Tokyo scene)
Tohoku region - 2011 Earthquake and tsunami
I love how the entire apocalypse plot of the movie was just caused by Suzume seeing a hot dude on the street and simping her way into unleashing a god 😅
The movie wasn't clear on it, but she has met him as a child in the afterlife in the ending. He's literally "the man in her dreams".
She was more intrigued by him at first.
@@dmin5782She also met herself as a kid, time doesn't flow normally there. I wonder what happened in the "first" timeline
@@RubiixCat I think there is no "first" or "second" timeline because I think souta said that the time passed all at once or smth like that
Time is confusing
Imagine if Suzume was the one that singlehandedly caused the great disaster that happened centuries ago in tokyo lol. Since time doesn't really work in the Ever after, after Suzume removed the key stone, causing the worm to open different doors in different timelines. Like a paradox or somethin
I genuinely really enjoyed this movie, yeah it wasn't the most groundbreaking work that he's created, but I thought overall it was a really great film both in context of his other works and just in a more broad sense. I enjoyed the score, I enjoyed the story, the animation was gorgeous, the travel aspect was something that I thought was very cool, and overall I just liked Suzume as a character. My only real problems were Daijin's motivations and character changes didn't really feel consistent and felt really rushed, and certain emotional moments felt a little bit too rushed. I do wish this movie had a bit more time to breathe at points, but overall I still genuinely would rate it like an 8.5 out of 10. A genuinely really beautiful movie, a heartwarming ending, likable characters, and a really interesting and fun travel aspect that made it feel almost like a bunch of connected shorts which frankly I really enjoyed
To understand Daijin's motivation, you need some basic understanding of Japanese mythology. Daijin is a deity whose duty is to prevent the worm from escaping. Japanese think that Gods get their powers from prayers, numbers of followers, and appreciation. When Gods are forgotten, that's a death sentence for the God. In Daijin's case, he is a God that was pretty much forgotten by people (except those who close the doors). That's why when we see Daijin for the first time, it looks weak and pathetic. When Suzume tells him that he is cute and asks him to be her cat, he gets his energy back. From there, because he wants to be loved and appreciated, he decides to become her cat. And because Souta was in the way, he is made into the next key. From then on, Daijin guides Suzume towards the new place where the key must be placed, because we learn from Souta that the key is moved every few centuries to the centers of power because its power is influenced by demographics and population density - which is also why the doors open in abandoned places. On the way, Daijin also guides Suzume to where the doors are opening and is influencing her kharma in such a way that her travel is easy, by meeting people ready to help her. Later when Suzume is angry at Daijin and tells him to never talk with her again, as it realizes that he is not loved, it loses its energy again. Sadaijin comes to bring Daijing back to its actual duties. In the end, when Daijin learns that Suzume is ready to become the key and take Souta's place, her being ready to sacrifice herself for another, reminds him about the duty he has as a God, but also because he cares about Suzume and wants to protect her, he chooses to become the key again.
@@davidgreen5994 I get that I just think in a movie that is self-contained you should have your characters emotional arcs be well understand and explained in the actual work. Like just because someone knows the lore of something doesn't mean that you can skip storytelling steps
@@davidgreen5994 I think the way you explain it it doesn't make much sense (or the movie doesn't make much more sense). I mean this is a great explanation but still - the points about rushing plot and plot holes are still there! If Daijin need more affection from people to be strong, to be an active 'god' then how he'll obtain it by becoming a key again? And Suzume clearly shows him that she cares only about Souta, not him - so he may assume that she'll forget about him and he'll end up at the beginning of the movie. And if he gained more 'power' from posts about him along the travel and it's enough then why he becomes so 'weak' after cruel words she says to him? Clearly something is wrong: Daijin starts at not wanting to be a key but ends up being sacrificed in the name of 'love' of two strangers, all becouse of Suzume selfishness (or more: people's selfishness in general). [By the way he's more useful than Souta - Suzume learnt how to close the doors, Daijin can perfectly find them - and Souta can't... so... he becomes useless] And why Daijin likes Suzume so much? Why they can insert two keys in the same place [at the end of the movie] and suddenly it's alright? Why all creatures must sacrifice themselves for people? Why the 'love' of two persons might be more important than the happiness of a god? And still, Daijin choses them not him - quite weird (again: why he likes Suzume so much?). The movie should be about him (and the second key-cat which obviously has some history with Souta's grandfather, than about Suzume and some random door closing student from Tokio.
@@davidgreen5994 dang, if only movie reviewers understood the source material like you do
All of them are usually bitter people who got their ego stroked from strangers who say stuff like "i haven't even watched suzume but i agree with you"
It's a circle jerk of patheticness
@@the7569 But everything is explained, and nothing is skipped, but this is a Japanese movie made first and foremost for a Japanese audience. So obviously is building on some elements that any Japanese or East Asian would know. I highly doubt that a Japanese on the other hand could see the Christian undertones in Narnia or Lord of the Rings.
Honestly, from my point of view Suzume isn't even a romance movie in the first place. It's more of Suzume coping with forgetting half of the traumatic event of what happened in her past and the whole meeting Sota incident helped her to finally build up the courage to remember and to tell herself/her younger self she will be the one to make her own tommorow possible
Me and my friend who both have uni degrees in Japanese and lived in Japan for a year both came out of it feeling like the movie was incredible. I think having a very deep understanding of Japan is definitely more important in appreciating this movie in full, where his other films have been a bit more universal. I especially loved the criticism and unease of abandoned places. The second I saw them drive past the "exclusion zone" my heart sunk to my stomach with realisation and this was really effective for the last act, with each subtle hint to the Fukushima tsunami hitting me. I don't think it was a perfect movie by any means, but there was so much I adored about it
This comment. I saw it in the same light you did.
Being Japanese or being familiar with Japanese culture is a requirement for u to "get the movie" as pretentious as that sounds.
@@CryptidFlame well its because its not for you GAIJIN. it was worked by japanese animator, directed BY japanese, dubbed by japanese, and most importantly the target market was JAPANESE YOU FUCKKKIING GAIJIN! IGNORANT GAIJIN IS SO PRETENTIOUS WTF!
When they drove past the exclusion zone the realisation hits me like a truck the earthquake is a metaphor for 2011 tohoku earthquake, also coincidentally the theatrical release of this film on my country is march 11, exactly 12 years after the tohoku earthquake
@@archise3191 Same here in Italy
Honestly I had a serious problem with the plot being the exact same as Your Name and Weathering with You. There's some magical phenomena the main character and a forced love interest get caught up in, halfway through the main character "loses" that love interest and needs to travel through Japan to reach the place where they can trigger that phenomena and reunite with them.
It was also weird how the love seems to come out of nowhere in Suzume (much less time, conversation, and experiences to develop a relationship aside from closing doors), the main character is designed like a side character, and people of Japan are just portrayed as overly nice that they'd give you a place to stay or an 8 hour car ride if you just ask.
someone else said it! she knew him for 4 days, and it sure fucking feels like it because unlike the previous two movies we don't get a time lapse where they get to know each other. most of their conversations are worm oriented, and souta doesn't show really any interest in her beyond having her assistance with the door.
also suzume is a junior so 16-17 and souta was in college for 4 years. this is either a one sided crush which doesn't make sense to risk unsealing the worm for, or it's jail time.
@@ILiekFishesmy dude, that sort of age gap and relationship is jail time only în America, because you guys are very paranoid about pedophiles (to the point that you no longer care what a pedo actually is). This sort of relationship wouldn't be anormal in the rest of the world, because girls actually prefer guys who are 4-5 years older... In Japan even 8 years is quite common. When I was a freshman in highschool al almost all the girls I knew where dating seniors. They had no interest in us, because they tought we were children.
I mean have you peoples never heard of love at first sight? Plus those are teens, not 30yo adults. When I was a teen boys and girls would fall în love and get together for just liking the same band. Plus those 2 went trough more in 4 days than others in a life time. Think a little, what would lead to love faster? Going to 5 dates or 'I meet this handsome City boy here in the outskirts, and he was fighting a supranatural entity that only we 2 can see, and then a God cursed him, he turned in a chair and then we traveled around the country to prevent disasters and catch the God.'? My dude, that guys has more baggage and more intrigue than any colege graduate from a good family with a stable job could. He would make any panties drop XD
@@ILiekFishes I personally didn't see Suzume as a romance movie. Like yes she falls in love with him but most of the time I feel like she also takes him as an excuse to run away from home and learn new places. It doesn't feel like he actually loves her but still admires her effort and help. So yeah they most likely fall in love and become a couple but this happens after the movie.
My biggest problem was with that college friend of the chair dude. Like he had no idea about all the magic stuff yet he decided to go along with it and give Suzume a free car trip ride. Not to mention the fact that the aunt also went along with it
This was the only movie that I went and watched in theaters twice. Even when I went and watched it the second time and KNEW WHAT HAPPENED I still cried. The themes of love while can be seen as romantic I see it as companion love like the one you get from close friends. when she says “I’m going to see the one I love” it felt like she was saying it in a “I’m going to go be with someone I’m close with” even though they hadn't been around each other for long. Kinda like how Greek has many different words for love and who it is for and what strength if it. Also the theme of wanting one’s place in the world while having obligations and wanting to be more hit so hard as a college student with an undecided major. Along with that the music was amazing. Sky over Tokyo never fails to make me shiver when I remember the design of the full worm. to be with Sota caused me to sob because I know the feeling of going “I’m fine to go. I’m ok to die.” Only to have a brush with death and realize no I don’t want to go I want to be selfish I just want to live. And prayer was a beautiful close for how they defeated the worm especially the animation of Suzume flipping herself around to face the worm head on without the fear she had previously. I also loved the different people she met. It reminded me of when I hiked the Appalachian trail and all the different people I met and who helped me. At one point I almost fell down a mountain and rolled my ankle a man who was hiking a bit behind me helped me get to the next hostile practically carrying me at some points I’ll never forget him even tho he didn’t give me his name and kept hiking. And honestly the worms design also works (though the name worm makes me giggle) the red swirling mass that bursts out but at the same time is also oddly beautiful seems like a good reflection for emotion I don’t know which ones but certainly emotions. And Suzume meeting her younger self just destroyed me. I often wish I could talk to my younger self and tell her everything will be ok and that even though things are hard and the world is scary I would be able to grow and take it on. I feel like I was healed a little bit along with Suzume in that scene. I wish I could have taken my mother to see this movie she doesn’t like anime but I know she would have loved this. All in all an amazing movie that broke me and put me back together again.
Also about daijin something that should be considered whenever people say he just changed really quickly I think that he just wanted to be loved. When suzume treated him nicely he interpreted that as love and saw sota as in the way. From that action he realized he could be with suzume and get rid of sota all in one. When suzume told him that she hated him for what he did it kinda clicked for him that love is not just one thing for one person and the fact that she hated him cause him a lot of pain. Another moment is when she is freeing sota and said “I’ll become the keystone” fully ready to sacrifice herself. Daijins eyes in that moment go wide before he jumps down to help her. I feel that in that moment he realized just how much Sota meant to her. He also realized that he would be remembered and loved even as the keystone. He just wanted love. He definitely added to the story for me and it’s crazy how I could go from hating a cat to bawling over it.
Something I think that also helps me enjoy movies is I don’t go to watch movies to break them down. I go to enjoy them so unless there’s really bad plot, I’m going to enjoy it no matter what m. after I’m done, I can then break it down into his little pieces and see what made me enjoy it.
For me it didn’t matter if this movie was meant to be “different” as I haven’t seen any of his other films and because of that I went in expecting nothing and getting an amazing a truly impactful film.
Sorry for the novel this movie was just amazing to me.
Yeah I imagine this movie is very subjective with who it appeals to. It's always cool to hear people getting something out of it that I couldn't.
@@Keksi maybe you're just not empathic enough.
Tori tenshi, finally someone who gets the movie right. I think the problem with youtube movie reviews is that they tend to be too hollywood-minded.
Some people think the relationship in Your Name and Weathering With You felt more solid bc of timelapse montage? That's the lamest excuse i've ever heard
Suzume and Souta may only knew eachother 3 days tops. But during those 3 days the trials they faced were huge and partly Suzume's fault. The guilt she felt probably what drives her to make it right. Return Souta back and prevent tragedy from happening.
Not to mention Souta being a Closer all his life and now he met some random girl who finally sees the world like he does. That's the kind of potential there. It also doesn't feel rushed bc at the end they're not officially dating, which i'd say it implies that their relationship progress naturally and is open to interpretation
@@aeoligarlic4024 agreed. I don’t even think Shinkai intended this to be “love” in the romantic sense. It was a sense of familiarity. Actually we see that Suzume is drawn to Souta immediately when they cross paths for the first time. Now if we remember, actually because of the time loop thing, her future self has already met her past self, and Souta was with her when she met her past self, so it makes sense that she feels a connection with him. I really liked the film- I think most of the people who haven’t understood it are looking at it through a Hollywood lens indeed, whereas this is probably one of Shinkai’s more uniquely Japanese films. Daijin is a kami, a deity, and the way he acts is in accordance with that. Kami aren’t like God in Judeo-Christian traditions and they’re very much a part of everything in nature. I think although we initially like hating on Daijin, it becomes apparent that he’s his own thing- by giving him food, Suzume essentially invites him into her life, asking for his protection. And that’s what he does throughout the film- although it’s not apparent to us until the end.
@@KeksiBecause it's entirely centered around disaster victims around Japan filled with Japanese folklores. It'll get really picky as to whom it appeals when global audience are in the discussion.
Shinkai's movies are always "boy and girl meet", "boy and girl does supernatural stuff and share chemistry", "boy and girl gets separated by supernatural forces and final act of the movie is about one of them trying to find the other", throw in some breathtaking visual and amazing soundtrack and you've got yourself a Shinkai movie!
Dont care. I liked the movie
Fuck yeah😍 Screw this guy's opinion 💯
I had no idea people were saying Suzume was "different" from Shinkai's other work. I went to the theatre, saw the movie, and walked out thinking "yup that was exactly the same movie as all of Shinkai's other movies". I still liked it though. The comedic moments were on point for me.
not a japanese check
The Trauma with the mother was mentioned from the beginning and it is also quit obvious that she is only masking and have not actually resolved her mothers death. Also, i do not if you know, but her mother died by the tsunami of the fukushima incident. This gives the plot way more drive and changes the relevance in japan of the movie and many of its plot points. As example, many people said that after tsunami they have seen ghost helping and interacting, later on finding out, this person was allready dead at the moment. This makes a deeper conection with this representation of the spirit world. It also gives more relvance to the earthquake locations and especially to hearing the voices before closing the doors. To be a bit picky, she was wearing the scarf because she wandered out of winter into the ever after.
As someone who hasnt watched suzume i completely agree
You're just a chuni
I completely agree.
Walking out of Suzume at the cinema, my friends immediately started debating whether it felt more like it should have been half an hour shorter or have been a 26 episode series. So many of the scenes just felt a little aimless, as if they either needed more to justify them, or simply to not be there.
6/10 movie needs more McDonald's
A few more big macs slid in would've brought this up to a strong 7 maybe even light 8
Nah, it doesn't need to be longer. It needs more solid characterization and theme first. How's Moving Castle has similar elements (door, mysterious guy, time travel) and managed to tie things up in its time constraint.
@@stefanijovita1640 Because you can't compare manure with Miyazaki lol
I’m very happy I’m not the only one who walked out
Go back to hollywood where your tastes would be more suitable
I love how the animation focus each time on suzume locking smh it's really satisfying
The themes of loss, grief, and depiction of an individualistic motivation to move forward were excellent IMO and are the key elements that I feel distinguish Suzume from Shinkai's other works.
Spoilers.
The film's initial deception of her mother giving her chair to her was notably contrasted with Suzume giving her past self her mother's chair to support her future. However, this future self of her was thankfully supported by a plethora of family members and friends and she was able to get through that grief and even pull herself together to support her younger self.
The film shows that despite the element of grief never truly going away from Suzume she still can look forward to the future, find comfort in her friends, and acknowledge that she can move forward as a person and still find love in new places and through new people.
In fact, the love dynamic between the male protag and the female protag while it's there I do feel the male protag may view Suzume in a more sisterly/teacherly dynamic rather than a full-on lover one due to their age gap and relationship period. I do feel that adjusting the ages of the characters mixed with further dialogue could have better cemented their relationship and reduced confusion. Whether it be in a romantic direction that's mutual or a more platonic esque love. Or just drop that and go for the original direction that Shinkai wanted of 2 female protags.
Additionally, I feel like Suzume's aunt was amazing as it depicted how numerous characters struggle and deal with grief and trauma distinctly and how its a dynamic problem that families and friends have to get through together. I do wish she had more screen time tho.
I also really liked the core fantasy concept as it sold the core themes of strong individualism yet with a touch of powerful understanding of the importance of remembering the past while forming new relationships to become better as people. To not have these forgotten places reek with the loss of something that was once special but to remember it and to hopefully make something new from its ashes. As is the case with Suzume recalling the memories of the people who once lived in these places and internalizing them (ending with her internalizing the feelings of her hometown that she lost years ago with her mom).
Overall, Suzume isn't a love story with a side of fantasy and a strong depiction of grief, relationships, moving forward, the individualism to pull yourself up yet acknowledgment of the importance of those around you but rather it's the other way around. The love story is the side element of this narrative (and arguably could have been improved with a few dialogue and age adjustments) with these powerful themes taking the forefront of the narrative. That's merely my opinion on this film however.
The wounds of loss do not heal fully, the memories of the past are still cherished yet tinged with a hint of melancholia, and yet there's hope that our relationships and the person those relationships help to turn us into can push us forward to make peace with our pasts and strive for a better tomorrow.
Additionally (and this is just an opinion) I find your name better than Weathering with you since weathering's destruction of tokyo was a bit uh.... questionable for me to come to terms with as a narrative direction. I do love weathering's relationship dynamic a fair bit better (though your name's light novel really pushes it over the edge for me even further as Shinkai didn't get to fully adapt your name). Weatheing just feels like a confused movie for me too as it lacks a lot of the cultural and narrative nuances that your name had that added unique depth to your name IMO. While weathering featured stuff like child labor, ignoring human lives for the sake of love, and a very narrow depiction of the world around the main characters. Given I did like some elements of weathering with you I do overall prefer your name.
It technically has a character sitting on someone's face, so that's new
I don't get why peoples think the romance is forced - teen girl living in the outskirts, sees a handsome mysterious city boy, and is instantly interested in him. THE MOST REALISTIC THING YOU COULD MAKE! I had instant flashbacks with living in the countryside and had the girls I was interested in smitten with the city boys who would come to my grandparents during the summer break. Then not only that he is handsome and mysterious, but he is also fighting from the shadows to protect the world from a calamitous entity? OMG!!! I'm a dude but even I got wet from that. And then they she runs away from home to travel the country in a magical adventure with him, and he is a cute chair?! WHAAT?! What more do you need? My first girlfriend and I got together because we both liked Pokemon. I was 16yo! And those 2 are in a magical adventure, saving the world from a calamity entity only the two of them can see, and trying to catch a God, and this romance is forced?
Same for the art direction. I don't like CGI anime in general. But I wasn't bothered by the CGI in this one. The worm is an out-of-the-world abstract entity. I think it should look out of place in that world, because it's an abnormality. Moreover, the core of the story is the demographic decline. Daijin basically guides Suzume to Tokyo, because the place where she lived was too depopulated to give power to the key. As such, it would make no sense for Shinkai to present this vibrant world full of people as we saw in Weathering with You. And also needs to be more grounded in reality because it builds on a tragedy that really happened. The whole movie is literally a message to the Japanese people, that they shouldn't forget their past but they need to address their traumas.
finally sane people are emerging from their silence. this is empowering on this sea of madness suzume review.
Honestly, I thought that too for a while, ''why is the mc interested in that character, they don't know anything about them'', but then I self reflected. From my own experience, a guy liked a thing I liked? Instantly interested. They looked cute? Instantly Interested. It doesn't take much when you're full with crazy hormones.
Thinking back I cringe (lol), I don't even understand why I had these crushes, but back then the feelings were there and they were real. People who say it's forced/ unrealistic simply outgrew the high school crush phase and forgot how it was being a teenager.
A HS girl having a crush on an older guy is natural. But a crush isn't romance. I never felt he reciprocated it.
The romance part feels so relatable for someone who's into shoujo genre like me. For once i felt Shinkai's creation actually speaks for my taste. A goodlooking college guy, few years older than you. Reliable in general, even still manages to help you out when he was cursed into a chair? These reviewers seriously need to lay off their Cinema Sins attitude. It's friggin hard to enjoy things these days without someone acting like a cinema college graduate
@@MsMvsc he does care for her though
"It's because i finally met you"
"I'll come see you, I promise"
He just doesn't act it out of respect due to their age difference (i think). Their relationship is an open end and that's why i love it.
Tbh i'd cringe if they made a scene like staying over in a hotel room and crying while showing your hollow/water body like in Weathering With You
Walked out of the theater super confused when I watched it. A lot of plot holes, and a lot of things could’ve been added. if Shinkai really wanted to flesh this story out they should’ve made it episodic, because I didn’t really connect with any of the characters to really care about their conflict, and frankly it’s quite absurd that suzume would suddenly fall in love with a chair lol
I cannot tell when you're joking or not and I absolutely love it
Your sense of humor is on point 👌
It's S tier comedy lol
Suzume was really the BK Whopper of Makoto Shinkai films of all time.
The last time I ate a whopper I had stomach cramps for like a week
Bro don't shit on whoppers, like what did the mostly preservative free burger do to you?
@@Keksi weakest weeabo stomach I have ever found.
Bunch of sheeps self-congratulating eachother
@@coldai9107 double down burger
Whenever I see a show or movie with a really cool theme or idea that doesn't quite get the execution right I'm always more disappointed that the idea is somehow now 'taken' and won't be tried again because... reiterative improvement is bad? Shinkai exploring the same concept over and over is how we got Your Name! New ideas and concepts and breaking the mould is great but sometimes there's more to explore there and I don't get why that's seen as a bad thing
After I left the theatre’s with my friends the biggest thing we took from the film is how hungry we were and how far the nearest McDonald’s is so I say 7/10 👍
the Big Mac was soggy 😢
Big Mac > movie theater
i saww suzume in the theater like a week ago.I became very aware during the film of the many motifs that Shinkai reuses, like "crowd wondering about what's going on", and internet virality (like in weathering with you), not to mention, girl falling through the sky..
I literally don't understand what all the hate is for. I'm absolutely obsessed with his movies because of how consistently good they are. I was so hyped since its announcement and bought tickets to go see it as soon as I can because I can count on it being the same as before. Why would Shinkai want to deviate form the plots that have made him what he is now? In my opinion Suzume was a much more confusing movie compared to Your Name and Weathering with you it doesn't spoon fed you every detail and leaves you wondering about certain things. The SOUNDTRACK on this was simply amazing. One of the best I have ever heard. Idgaf if other people aren't content because the "romance was forced" "animation was subpar" or other bs. Tell me who else can consistently make such bangers every 3 years? SHINKAI IS THE GOAT
facts.
People want movies like garden of words and 5 centimetres/second
@@karthik007 I can't really say if that is what people want since the sales from Suzume were some of the highest for an anime film. Also as mentioned in the video people wanted something different then the same copy paste plot of a boy and a girl which Suzume was.
It also doesn't help that people on Twitter started saying that the chair was a groomer since he's a college graduate
@@YourMom_._isn't suzume in junior high? And the main love interest in college. Very sus 🤔🤔
He could make the same movie 100 times and I’d still watch and enjoy
I agree. I read somewhere that Shinkais movies are like spaghetti. You can enjoy it with sauce, meat, carbonara and much other stuff. It always has the same base but it will always be tasty and enjoyable.Thats how Shinkais movies are they have the basic same concept but you will enjoy them.
i think a lot of these criticisms are valid, but you really didn’t give the themes (which is always what shinkai does best) a fair shake. like all of his movies have dealt with the 2011 earthquakes to some extent, and it’s really cool to finally get one that tackles it in such a dense and layered way. closing the doors is such a great metaphor for working through trauma, not only for the 2011 earthquakes, but also for all of Japan’s lost ghost towns and suzume’s own personal trauma. it’s so interesting that i think it warrants being a bit more forgiving towards some of its shortcomings.
The only shinkai shit i have ever watched is that one Ys II opening he directed.......
It was incredible
You’re automatically discredited when you think weathering with you is a 9 and better than your name. Bye
personally, i hadn't heard any of the people who were saying it was "different" from his other movies. i saw that it was in my local cinema and that was the first i'd heard, and i went in expecting shinkai and walked out having watched shinkai. he's good at making his movies!
Wait is that actually a wide consensus cause I liked Suzume but it was just Weathering With You with a door skin
I don't really know what gave it that impression but from what I've seen yes
You know it’s about japans deadliest tsunami/earthquake accident. When you understand that it’s really sad movie
I don’t expect an American to know anything about 2011 tsunami, aging population, no new kids for school, or abandoned countryside. 😔😔😔
@@NineTnk I’m American and I didn’t need to know the details or experience any of that to still understand the significance of it.
As someone who absolutely loves Your Name, watching Suzume was a much heavier movie that added a lot of *real* trauma. I wish they focused on the trauma more, but the signs were there and the movie borrows a lot more of its power from a natural disaster that has endlessly plagued Japan. When someone is that young and something traumatic happens, they don't always internalize it in a way that screams "I'm traumatized by the loss of my mother."
1. When I saw the journal page with the date 3.11 blacked out on it, it became clear that it was a movie about the trauma from the Tohoku Earthquake, which devastated northern Japan. Everyone else in her town has an accent typical of Kyushu while she speaks in a more standardized form of Japanese and never integrated the accent into her spoken language. At the very least, it tells the viewer that she's not from the area. If we want to stretch it a bit more and consider the fact that she was extremely young at that age, we can say that she's not moved on. Again, it's a stretch but an idea I like to entertain.
2. There's a scene where Souta asks if she's not afraid (implied dying) and she says no. She almost walks through the gate, towards the Ever-After (underworld) because she thinks her mother is there. Later in the movie, she realizes that there are other people in her life who are valuable to her-- this time, she says that she's afraid of dying and wants to live (I'm still not a fan of Souta's insertion and I wish that it was platonic).
3. It's not a meteor or some unnatural amount of rain, but a disaster so real that the alarm sound in the movie is the same one that people in Japan are familiar with. People in Japan have left the theater because the movie has triggered memories of a trauma that happened only 11 since the movie's release. Yes, Shinkai makes the disasters with worms, but how the worms have historically caused mayhem in Japan is a reference to the trauma that the island nation faces.
This is why I felt the movie is different-- it touches on real trauma. I think if I wasn't aware of the history of the events in the film, I would have missed out on a lot. I don't know if the critics you're referring to also touched upon the "realism" aspect of the movie, but maybe that's why they might have felt it was different. If they're talking about the other story elements, I'll agree with you. It's not perfect and I definitely saw some issues upon rewatching a couple times. Forsaking the romantic subplot for more focus on the loss of Suzume's mother would have easily made it my favorite Shinkai film, but now I juggle between Suzume and Your Name, which is steeped in Japanese culture as well.
of course you're not being read. 😂
I thought Suzume was kinda like a mix of Shinkai movies and Ghibli movies. Mainly, that thought came from the chair part of the story. For a minute I thought I was watching Beauty and the Beast. Like I had turned on a Disney film or a Ghibli movie. By the end though, I was like ‘yep, still a Shinkai movie’. Lots of Shinkai elements.
as someone who got into Shinkai with Voices of a Distant Star that i randomly rented from a blockbuster in 2006, to Suzume being the first movie i watched sober in a theater, post liver-transplant after being given 3 weeks to live, it was one of the most beautiful moments of my history with anime.
i remember shinkai still being obscure & nigh impossible to find a fan base for online when 5cm per second came out; and him being decried as a Miyazaki wannabe that couldn't live up
to Ghibli after the release of Children Who Chase Lost Voices. later coming out with Garden of Words to, again a small fanbase.
i stopped watching anime or playing games for a long time throughout my 20s since i was doing normal professional & party life, but i remember hearing murmurings of Shinkai regarding Your Name, and i was stunned he was still making films & it was fascinating to see him getting talked about, much more so seeing how popular he's
gotten.
more of the same, repeats of the same concept, whichever it is. the concept of Suzume along with active hate he received in the anime community around 2012 +/- 3 years is the main thing i remember & im forever happy for him that he ended up holding on & is so widely known today.
i remember scouring for videos of commercials he worked on, & that's the only content to be found online outside of The Place Promised in our Early Days & the She & Her Cat short.
"Pre- 'Your Name' work to be middling at best," you say. very sad to hear, especially seeing how he almost never made it to that era in the first place. smdh
Ive never seen you before, but I watched the movie for the first time about three weeks ago. It being my first Makoto Shinkai film, I loved the fuck out of it, but its cool to have my eyes opened to some of the other things. Anyways, I just wanted to say I really enjoyed watching this video, the editing and script was very nice.
most sane suzume enjoyer
Got here before the discord notification, success!
Holy tentacles, Keksi at it again with a banger?!
It will still be :
1. Your name
2. Weathering with you
3. Suzume
Shinkai does this thing where his movies are AMAZING in the moment, but a few hours go by after watching them and then you're hit with the "wait a minute... I've seen this before! And it's not as amazing as I thought..." They're still great, but you're so right with this one. Maybe the furniture in this one will get him an IKEA sponsorship for his next film?
Idk why people complain that Shinkai makes the same films over and over they're still enjoyable af
The fact that the movie doesn't have the specific lovesick chuninbyo vibe like in the previous ones is what makes it able to appeal to wider audience.
I personally find it way more entertaining story-wise and overal than Tenki no Ko. I also love how the romance subplot doesn't feel too much "in your face"
Don’t let this distract from the fact that Daijin did NOTHING WRONG!
Oh hell no, fuck that kyubey sibling lol
Fr I cried so much bc of them 😭
👏👏👏
As someone who married the person he felt an overwhelming attraction to, I do believe in love at first sight. It is getting to really know the person afterward that the true love starts. Also I would have loved this movie if she had to go around Japan closing mystical doors with her aunt. That would have been cool.
I'm sorry Keksi, to this day I've not watched a single Makoto Shinkai film, so I can't truly appreciate this video. But I've been to McDonalds plenty of times so that should sustain my knowledge!
putting WWY above your name is weird. WWY romance is terrible (but better than suzume)
though Suzume's story, mythology and drama just hits harder than WWY. putting suzume's romance aside, the adventure and how it tells the Japanese history and experience w/earthquake, tsunami is just so well done. which is why its ;
your name (10/10) >>> suzume (9/10) >>>>>> 5cm/s >>>>>>> WWY (7.5/10)
for 6:30, if you know how trauma in children works, you know how well Suzume's story execute it. Trauma in children are often forgotten, because, well its traumatic, but sometimes it can come back when certain triggers occur. As in Suzume, the trigger was her diary, when she opened it and was suddenly flooded with the memories of 3/11 and her lost, searching for her mother. it was more than a decade ago, and even happened when she was a child. I swear this part hits like a fucking truck, I can't imagine how many Japanese children grew up without parents because of 3/11.
only near the ending shows how much Suzume has grown in her adventure, compared to her past self. she finally comes in term with losing her mother. and thats the part that will always stick with me in the movie.
Yeah from the start of this movie it felt a lot like Children Who Chase Lost Voices [the best Shinkai film, change my mind). That said, I loved it! Daijin made the movie. "A part of me thinks the staff just went all in on this cat" cracked me up. It's true!
As some who has seen almost all his older work (5 centimeters... The Garden of Words...) and hates Your Name with a passion, Suzume actually made me like him again.
I can buy into her trying to save that chair, even loving it because it was not because of him but about the grief that she never properly heal from her mom. Also in this one, the guy isn't a bland jerk like in Your Name so yeah, still more believable.
I guess art really is subjective then
@@francisbartoszewski2284 it just that they have this mindset that shinkai's work are about romance which is partially an OK take, but the real message isnt so shallow.
5cm per second (time waits for no one)
garden of words (gratefulness)
your name (red strings)
weathering with you (yourself problem >> others problem, be selfish)
suzume (overcoming burden of grief and guilt)
can someone please count how many god dam time suzume says "Souta-san"
I think one of my issues with Suzume is that it doesn't have a time lapse. In Your Name and Weathering With You, they are implied to have spent a long time doing things and getting to know each other whereas Suzume only knows Souta for the time we see him on screen, and most of that is him being a chair. No time lapse, just a handful of doors that total to less than a week (maybe less than 3 days? idk).
Spoilers
I, personally, would have loved to keep my demon cat best friend who killed a dude for me, especially when the consequences of an aborted revival could be a massive earthquake that levels Tokyo. Also, because the reason I knew the movie existed was because the ost popped into my recommended feed, I was constantly waiting for the climax where Suzume (the song) played like Grand Escape or Sparkle, and they tease it when she makes her mind up, but I really thought that we hadn't hit the climax of the movie with the big worm seal, even though that is the most intense moment and reviving Souta doesn't come close. tldr I think I just like insert songs, and it really threw me when there weren't any.
Well to be fair, even though we don't see it, it's implied that they're always together throughout that short time span. it's different than seeing someone everyday, maybe at work or at school, because you literally are by their side through everything, even in sleep. Alot of things can happen when you spend that much time together, and really I can see them developing a true natural bond or connection, maybe even reinforced by the fact that suzume met him when she was a young kid in the forever after, a reason she might feel an attachment to him
Shinkai's works are a lot like McDonalds in that people are self-important about not liking them, they're probably not the best thing for you overall and this is fairly common knowledge, sometimes it's 2:00am and you're drunk and you just want them regardless because that's the kind of vibe you're at, if you have a friend unfamiliar with them you'll probably show them it at least once, and I have imprisoned their mascots in my basement.
Wait what the fuck since when did your channel get this big, I'm so parasocially proud
I basically agree with nothing of what you said in my personal opinion, but... this video was well made and your views are totally understandable.
To me, #1 of Makoto Shinkai movies would be Suzume, while Weathering With you would be #2 and Your Name #3
I also definitely agree that Shinkai movies are a mixed bad (albeit with VERY different picks as to what is good and what is bad).
My opinions are also based heavily on plot vs animation. You could give me something that looks appalling but has an incredible story and I’d still absolutely love it, or something that looks great but has the least consistent plot I’ve ever seen and I would despise it forever (we’ll get to that-).
For me, Your Name is definitely a 10/10, while Weathering with You managed to take home my only 1/10 to date (I hate that movie with a burning passion and could rant for an hour about why, but I digress). Suzume felt like a pretty good return to form for Shinkai with, at least in my opinion, a plot that was comprehensible and characters that I could actually connect with and care about.
I do agree that Suzume isn’t all that “different”, although I felt like it was different enough from Your Name to not be literally the same movie but worse like WWY. For one, the supernatural elements actually got room to breathe as opposed to in WWY where I was left so utterly baffled by what I just watched that I GOOGLED AN EXPLANATION TO THE LORE, and even the positive reviews skirted around explaining what on Earth was actually going on (why can Hodaka fly through the same shrine gate? Why is Hina able to return like normal? Why was there a fully loaded gun in the trash can? WHY DID ONLY HER RING FALL TO EARTH, BUT THE REST OF HER CLOTHES STAYED ON!? And so…. SO many more), just talking about the animation and soundtrack.
Although not as neatly wrapped up as Your Name in terms of the whole red string motif and the timeline, Suzume did a good job of elaborating on its supernatural elements
As for 5cm per second, I thought it was pretty good, since it remained rooted in reality and just told the tale of two people drifting apart over time. If you include supernatural elements, you have to actually make an effort to properly wrap it up, which I felt like Suzume did nicely.
For a final bit of praise to Suzume, I did personally feel like the romance took a back seat to the coming of age storyline, with Suzume’s repressed grief and guilt being genuinely heartfelt and impactful. I personally wonder if Sota was even the main reason for her continuation of the journey towards the end, or if she was just so distraught by the concept of losing *anyone* again that she would risk it all to save him.
TL;DR: Your Name > Suzume > Almost every other Shinkai film >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Weathering with You.
your name>suzume>weathering with you. Suzume did feel somewhat funnier and different than its 2 predecesors. Idk why ud rate it that low lmao, its an easy 9 for me
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this is a very different keksi video because he does not end it with a downward spiral into insanity/dread
5cm per Second will forever be Makoto Shinkai's groundbreaking unsurpassed masterpiece
I agree 100%
I thought it was insanely boring 😭
@@tsundereyoongi3869try reading the manga version if you haven’t done so the anime version is so rushed so many things were left out.
Theres no way bro just said weathering with you is better than suzume D:
In one interview at Anime Expo in Los Angeles, Shinkai acknowledged the comparisons of himself and Hayao Miyazaki. He stated that although he respects Miyazaki and his films (since some influenced his own work), he believes that the comparisons are “overreaching” as he put it. Despite his English not being very good, he’s quite humble that he wants to be himself rather than being labeled as “the next Miyazaki.” I respect him for that.
Well boys, looks like turning notifs on has payed off
Your channel is booming and I didn't realise? Getting your life ruined really does help! And it seems this video will also boom so I'm happy your hard work is paying off. Won't have to comment as much anymore, nice.
its nice still seeing you around after so long
@@Keksi well this made me feel parasocial lol
The Shinkai crit has always confused me because like the thing about him remaking the same movie is that he's largely been improving the formula in my opinion. It's not like it's the exact same or worse
She fell in love with him instantly because of the time loop and feeling she knew him from before. Time travel is complicated like that.
i do not care what yall say about this film i think this movie is glorious and i will die on that hill and also DAIJIN DESERVED BETTER AHHH 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
I find it strange that Makoto Shinkai doesn't even try to flesh out the characters here because that's what this movie is lacking, yet somehow many people praise it as one of the best movies he made? Come on. Weathering With You is far even better than this. After finishing Suzume, I felt confused. I genuinely can't feel anything from the characters because everything just went too fast from this to that and keep on going until suddenly we got this so-called profound message. Typical Shinkai.
A young girl on the road decides to skip school because of a good-looking guy that seems familiar to her and eventually follows him to a strange place doing this and that... no matter how innocent a young girl nowadays, saying "I don't want to live in a world where he doesn't exist" only after a few days is just laughable. No character developments, just typical anime comedy slapstick, and romance. Makoto Shinkai worst movie to date for sure, but the Rotten Tomatoes score is that high. This whole thing is a comedy. Also, coping with trauma? What a joke. It works best if Shinkai gives more depth into the character, not doing half-assed characterization for this.
I gotta say, Suzume was my first Shinkai film, so having no experience with his other work, I absolutely loved it. His style is unique to me compared to other anime and the story was engaging and compelling. If you’re being this harsh, I look forward to watching Your Name and Weathering With You to see how much better they are 😁
The ever after realm looks so much like Agartha from Children Who Chase Lost Voices
The films are still proper sick though, I love the Shinkai format, it always works. I wouldn’t have a go at Picasso for making another ‘cubey’ art piece or Wes Anderson for making things symmetrical again. It works and it’s comfortable. But that’s just my opinion really, we all like things and don’t like things.
6:12 bla bla words words, *FEET* neurons activate
how is this channel not a big hit yet, man ur videos are awesome keep it up!
I realised that because I was explaining the 3 movies - Your name, Weathering with you and Suzume to my mom.
I hadn't thought about how much things repeat themselves
I really liked Suzume, but I feel like they could have done a lot more within the same universe
Only thing I noticed that wasn't different about this movie was the stellar art work and how it made me cry like the previous ones....
Brother those aren't dandelions, theyre fucking clovers, that's why they look like that 💀
Ah yes. Watched like 2/3 of your videos in 4 days and the next one is already here! Good job man!
Honestly want to see him make another 5 centermeters per second and garden of words movie. I love his modern movies but 5 centermeters per second is one of the best films if not his best set of films he made.
I think what the people are saying that is different is from my personal experience is the ending, in a way that nothing was technically was destroyed with the MC involved in it. So no town getting obliterated by a asteroid or Tokyo being flooded.
I personally have only seen your name, weathering with you and suzume, and I for one thought this was the best one.... not by much though.
to me all of his movies are, all around the same quality. like... I would give all 3 a 7/10. suzume just happened to be the highest 7.
to me, your name's body swap and the way it was executed was so damn entertaining to watch. which I'm near certain is the reason for why it was so popular. It has a good few problems, hell it even has a good few plot holes, but like, what it attempts to pull of is so much better than suzume or weathering with you.
weathering with you, shares the tropes, and is a lot more polished. but the core story itself is just not nearly as interesting imo. weathering with you is your name if you take out both the best and worst aspects of the story.
now suzume. is probably the most different. it's not super different, as you said it still shares a lot of similarities, but it is the most different. and to be honest, up until the end it's pretty much the same level for me as the other movies. same level writing, visuals and music. maybe slightly weaker, but close enough. but then, the scene at the end happened. with the whole trauma thing.
which spoilers:
was imo great. It's the typical trope in time travel, where a character teaches someone/their self in the past a lesson they had learnt in the future, but I think it was really well done as a subplot and easily the highlight of the movie for me.
this also the movie with the least nonsense fantasy elements. half the stuff in your name was "oh I guess this how this works now". and weathering with you's fantasy element just felt super random.
here although still kinda dumb, it felt more fleshed out, specially compared to your name.
the "romance" did suck though, it was just kinda there, with next to no attempt at being fleshed out, so that's the reason even though I thought it was the best, I didn't think it was by much.
What i found interesting in suzume that most of the audience know nothing about it was They show here the place which has the most destructive earthquake in Japanese history like Kobe, Tokyo and tohoku region.
This is the places where suzume travelled through:
Kobe - 1990 Kobe Earthquake
Tokyo - 1920s great Kanto earthquake (even daijin said here that "history will repeat itself" during the Tokyo scene)
Tohoku region - 2011 Earthquake and tsunami
Most of the audience only watched it for the clout, but they didn't really know the history about japanese earthquake which is this is where the movie was based.
Makoto shinkai wants the prrsent generation to remember and learn a lot of lesson during the 3/11/11 disaster in Japan.
I feel like its important to remember that this wasnt meant to be a romantic movie at all. Souta was even meant to be a girl in fact, but because it ultimately took the slightly more traditional route the romance is toned down compared to the previous 2 films as a leftover from the initial concept, which is why it feels so different
I think it’s very similar in watching Miyazaki films in terms of, there’s a pretty consistent formula but I feel like Shinkai films could use better storytelling
Certified contrarian moment. Ok bro we get it.
i loved the movie but what icked me was the romance, the guy was about to graduate to become a teacher and his friend was getting closer to her aunt- who is also a teacher, dude suzume is like 16 , it icked me so bad that i felt more bad for the cat then then guy being a chair because it was just getting a little bit too weird
oh so he's hallmark but for anime
Suzume is really good, but it impact is mainly for Japanese citizen. Many of scenes remind event of earthquake and tsunami disaster Japan suffered.
Edit: my personal thought, even though Makoto kinda hate it, this movie remind me of Howl moving castle.
Still counting the days till he talks about rocks
I think you're the only person I've heard say they preferred Weathering With You to Your Name; for me I'd rate Your Name a 10, Weathering With You a 6 and Suzume a 9.
Your name 10/10
Weathering with you 8/10
Suzume 5/10 seriously the romance felt off. Not just the romance even the characters felt off like how could a mother entrust her children to a girl she just met? What if she's a serial killer? And serizawa really get along with 14 hours trip and same ending as the two previous movies...Pure Disappointment man fk those producers I hope they they hit their toes hard.
What i found interesting in suzume that most of the audience know nothing about it was They show here the place which has the most destructive earthquake in Japanese history like Kobe, Tokyo and tohoku region.
This is the places where suzume travelled through:
Kobe - 1990 Kobe Earthquake
Tokyo - 1920s great Kanto earthquake (even daijin said here that "history will repeat itself" during the Tokyo scene)
Tohoku region - 2011 Earthquake and tsunami
Most of the audience only watched it for the clout, but they didn't really know the history about japanese earthquake which is this is where the movie was based.
Makoto shinkai wants the prrsent generation to remember and learn a lot of lesson during the 3/11/11 disaster in Japan.
idk honestly I think it was different enough to be appreciated as a creative risk when you compare weathering with you to your name. sure he uses the same themes he has been using for like the past 6 movies but you could literally argue that every ghibli movie is the exact same and people love that stuff too. the suzume story was pretty ass ngl but I think it puts him on the right track to try new things, which I have no issues with
I was confused how you got so seemingly distracted by talking about the visuals. I'm surprised you talked about the character design because like you said, his characters have never been distinctive. Also, I didn't think the music was that interesting while watching, but when listening to it later, I found it great. I'd recommend you listen to it. If you already have and still think I was more wimps than Rad then fair enough
All I got from this review is that dude wanted mcdonalds.
Me personally I enjoyed the movie. I gave it a 10/10. I didn't care about the fact they had recurring elements, or that the movie tried to be something different from its previous predecsssors, while somewhat failing at it. It was good of a movie for me. I really enjoyed it story. I don't get tired of the same thing unless if it's repeated with the exact same details. I loved that they brought in more Mythological elements into the story. I enjoyed the cast for what they were. The visuals were astounding. Soundtrack hits like a motherfucker, and I think it did better than the other soundtracks since it wasn't exclusively Radwimps. Although I do have my slight complains, like the cheesy McDonalds ad and the mid song that Radwimps used for the film to represent it as a whole, since Sparkle & Zenzenzense are the 2 main songs that practically make up Kimi no Na Wa, as well as the other 2 tracks used for Tenki no Ko.
Yeah. The problem with youtube movie reviews in general is just they forgot how to sit back and be entertained. Just.. forget that you're a reviewer for once and enjoy some art. It doesn't have to be that deep or constantly filled with KEY MOMENTS. That's why i enjoy movies like Coraline
I love you Keksi, if you haven't seen the Tatami galaxy I would love to hear your opinion
i love all of mokotos movies with your name being my 2nd favorite piece of media of all time postnatally tied with my first the game undertale
nice video bro keep up the good work
its been up for like 24 seconds how did you do that
@@Keksi Your vids are just that good.
@@Keksi they call me speedy gonzales