Roland PD125BK VS PDX100

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • The two main pads for Roland that are semi-kinda-affordable are the Roland PDX100 and the PD125BK. But what are the main differences? And why is one $210 and the other is $430? Really the only difference between them is that the PD125 is two inches larger, and it has a nicer wooden shell. The PDX100 actually has a slight advantage in one area, it has two mounting options built in. It has a thinner all plastic shell, that's why it costs less. I recomend buying these pads, they are VERY well made. Just get them used off ebay, forget about buying them new.
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Komentáře • 99

  • @danmayo9182
    @danmayo9182 Před 7 lety +4

    Hey Justin, I completely agree with you on buying used Roland gear -- it's so well made and holds up incredibly well. Over the years, I've purchased a total of 2 Roland kits, 3 modules and some add-on cymbals -- all used. I've never regretted any of those decisions and saved a ton of money along the way. You just have to be patient and wait for the great deals. One thing to check though when buying a used snare: the condition of the foam cone. We obviously hit the snare so many more times than any other drum and that foam cone can really suffer after enough years. That was the case when I bought a used PD125. I got it home and noticed that it wasn't as responsive as I expected. I opened it up and noticed that the cone was kind of mushy. No problem. Roland sent me a new cone for under $20, I peeled off the old one, stuck on the new one, and the drum was like new again.

  • @demonocusmetalocus3558
    @demonocusmetalocus3558 Před 7 lety +32

    Roland is the king of over pricing

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell493 Před 6 lety +3

    I'm really happy with my PDX-100, especially since I have spare 3-ply prism heads. The gain and frequency response of the pickup, rim triggering and reliability are superior to my laurin mesh, Alesis, simmons etc.

  • @rwebiscool
    @rwebiscool Před 7 lety +3

    Wow I subscribed like two weeks ago and there's been a new video almost every day! Killin the game, thanks Justin!

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  Před 7 lety +1

      +Reece Webber Thanks man, I really appreciate it! Been working a ton of 11 hour days, so I can’t always do one every day, but I’m trying to be as consistent as I can :)

    • @rwebiscool
      @rwebiscool Před 7 lety

      Man, seems like preparing this much content would be an 11 hour day in itself! Really enjoying the channel so far.

  • @ThaKid14
    @ThaKid14 Před rokem

    you smoke phat bluntzzzz fuuur sure. Just ordered myself a PDX-100 to replace a PDX-8 with a Roland TD-11 Module. thanks for this video to show off its capabilities. cheers bud

  • @lennartdaniels8126
    @lennartdaniels8126 Před 7 lety +1

    I like the pdx100, it has a nice rebound. But it can be to bouncy indeed. To be very honest, the pdx8 and pdx10 pads are rather nice, onfurtenate the size is rather small.

  • @Wazza722
    @Wazza722 Před 2 lety +1

    The other Tom mount option on the pdx100 is for a pearl arm mount.

  • @realitykicksin8755
    @realitykicksin8755 Před 6 lety +2

    Way to go is to expand your TD30KV with the PDX100.

  • @JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums

    great comparison video, Justin! I played on an Alesis strike pro the weekend, the first time i've properly had a go and i'm impressed with the quietness of mesh pads..i may be a convert!

    • @musicbigz
      @musicbigz Před 7 lety +1

      the strike drums are awesome!! hihat sucks, cymbals ok, but there is no better snare pad than the strike!!

    • @JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums
      @JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums Před 7 lety +1

      I did enjoy that snare and you are right about the hihat! It doesn't 'feel' realistic. here's a video I made playing it at PMT birmingham czcams.com/video/CXsMgVuKy14/video.html

  • @TheObimara
    @TheObimara Před 3 lety +2

    Does a TD-4 module work with the dual sensing?

    • @mafufu8323
      @mafufu8323 Před rokem

      czcams.com/video/HWPcfew3Ytc/video.html

  • @482jpsquared
    @482jpsquared Před 7 lety +1

    Actually, the PDX100 has the same internal sensor components (metal platform, vibration isolation parts) as the top-of-the-line PDX128. So, the PDX100 has slightly better triggering than the PD125BK. Consider the PDX100 as state of the art. PD125BK is slightly older technology. I've owned them both, and actually converted my PD125's at one time to PD128's by using the advice on the VDrums forum. Triggering after the conversion was slightly better sensing shallow and deep rim shots.

    • @chezchezchezchez
      @chezchezchezchez Před 7 lety

      huh? PDX100 > than the other two?

    • @482jpsquared
      @482jpsquared Před 7 lety +2

      The guts of the PDX100 are the same as the PDX128. So, the PDX100 triggering is slightly better than the PD125's, but not better than the PDX128. I didn't say that the "PDX100 > the other two", just the PD125 series because both the PDX100 and PDX128 share the same internal trigger components. Now, if size is important to you, the PDX128 is king. It's debatable if the PDX100 is better overall than the PD125 for your liking. I'm just pointing out that the trigger components in the PDX100 are Roland's state of the art and the PD125 is the previous generation. However the difference is subtle.

    • @482jpsquared
      @482jpsquared Před 6 lety +1

      The 140, being larger diameter and heavier plays a bit more like an acoustic kick. However, my DIY acoustic conversion plays great and for a lot lest money.

    • @482jpsquared
      @482jpsquared Před 6 lety

      What I've done for years: Get a KD-7 and put it behind a dummy acoustic kick drum. (18" for portability) It ticks ALL your boxes.

    • @482jpsquared
      @482jpsquared Před 6 lety

      Why not just put one KD-7 on the floor in front of a dummy kick drum and another other on the left just next to your hi hat? Problem solved. They're cheap used on eBay.

  • @tkelly830
    @tkelly830 Před 7 lety +1

    Great vid as always brother! Channel is growing like crazy 😎 Maybe you can do a vid on the Alesis DM10 MK11 Pro? That kit looks awesome for the money and there is nothing out there on CZcams about it.

  • @keng1339
    @keng1339 Před 3 lety +3

    Hello! I just have a question. I’m not really good at electric drums, does dual trigger pad like pdx-100 and pd-125 work on Roland Td-11?? Hoping for your reply! 😊

    • @ThaKid14
      @ThaKid14 Před rokem +1

      hey, I have a TD-11 - to answer your question YES. the black rubber circle around the pad is also a trigger and you can customize this to ANY sound you want. Get familiar playing with the module settings and fiddling around with the wheel. start your module and the n hit menu. go to INST - in this area you can customize any pad - start with the basic settings first- don't be overwhelmed by all the advanced settings. whichever pad you hit, the module will switch to the settings for that drum. practice doing this and seeing how the settings come up. tap the pads edge - if an option to edit does not come up then this means the outer edge (black rubber) isn't "linked". if thats the case hit link and then the outer rim and now you can customize a sound to that pads rim. For example, on my tom I wanted a clap song - so the middle of the pad was a tom and I made the black rim a clap. I've also put tambourines here or sometimes if I need another crash cymbal I put one here too like a china or something. The PDX-100 has dual triggers on and part of it and inside the module you can set this up. hope that clears things up.....even though its a year later. happy drumming bud.
      ALSO - Remember to go into settings - go to pad settings and double check to see if all your pads are linked up properly to the type of pad you own. Fox example - if you own a PDX-100 for your snare, make sure it says PDX-100 here and not some other model. name that isnt that pad thats plugged in there....and so on. this is vital important. I had issues with my kick drum for the longest time and it was all cause I had KD-8 in this setting when I in fact own a KD-9. I didn't get proper bass drum notes. You have to tel the module what pads you own..... If you don't know the model number of your pad you can look underneath on the bottom and it will say. this goes for all cymbals as well.

  • @sinustongated
    @sinustongated Před rokem +1

    I wanna buy a new snare pad for my Roland td11kv drumset. I have to decide between the pdx-12 and the pdx-100. Can someone tell me which one of those two is the better snare pad, also in working together with my td11kv drum module. Would be very thankful for answers! Thanks in advance to all e-drummers out there 🙏😉🥁

  • @kyleboggs1966
    @kyleboggs1966 Před 4 lety +1

    I found a used PD-125 today under $200.

  • @Clairvoyant81
    @Clairvoyant81 Před 7 lety +2

    I never noticed these prices before because I don't own any Roland pads... it's pretty ridiculous that I can get a wood shell, mesh head pad from other manufacturers like Drum-Tec cheaper than I can get the "equivalent" Roland. A 12"x5" pad from Drum-Tec, which is basically a cheaper normal drum shell nicely fitted with sensors etc, comes in at 310€, while the Roland PD-128-BC costs 430€. In my experience, both react pretty much identically and the Drum-Tec shell definitely looks better.
    So... I guess I have two questions:
    a) Given the ridiculous prices, I'm sure there must be more companies doing the same thing as Drum-Tec. Do you know any?
    b) Why do people buy Roland pads new? I get buying them used. They are sturdy and they work well, even though they're not pretty, IMO... but new?

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  Před 7 lety +2

      a. there are other companies out there similiar to drum tec like Jobeky, diamond, but Drum Tec is the best right now
      b. I've found that there are people that really don't have to worry about what things cost. Like. AT ALL. They just buy the best stuff and don't even flinch because they make alot of money.

    • @Clairvoyant81
      @Clairvoyant81 Před 7 lety

      Thanks for your reply.
      I know there are people that make enough money to just not care about it anymore... but usually, that's not exactly a huge number of people.

  • @mikestein1024
    @mikestein1024 Před 7 lety +1

    It would be cool to see a head that's 1 ply Mylar and 1 ply mesh , the mesh would silence the Mylar

  • @mickavellian
    @mickavellian Před 7 lety

    Question ...: Why would this "hotspoting" be an issue? It is EXACTLY what an acoustic drum would do especially a snare. Center louder a bit lower tone (unless you tighten that sucker to the point of snatching) and as you go closer to the rim the sound gives you a higher pitch and less volume. This is actually a great effect where you begin a flam near the rim and close a fill in the center.

    • @mikestein1024
      @mikestein1024 Před 7 lety +1

      Because of the huge volume spike when you hit the middle, and position sensing if way overrated

    • @My2Drumsticks
      @My2Drumsticks Před 7 lety

      You loose all dynamics at the center of the drum. It will trigger only the loudest sample, and becomes very annoying

    • @johndef5075
      @johndef5075 Před 6 lety +1

      No. Even roland is using side triggers on new snares. Hotspotting not like anything an acoustic drum does. I switched to a rt30hr rim trigger because I didnt like hotspotting.

  • @zislec
    @zislec Před 7 lety +3

    That's the only reason why I'm still on my Yamaha. Roland is just too expensive. Not that I couldn't get me one, but I don't support that kind of customer milking 😪

  • @TubeQuestions
    @TubeQuestions Před 7 lety

    Cool drum kit! I dont know much about drums but its always nice learning new things :)

  • @faustosanchez1365
    @faustosanchez1365 Před 7 lety +1

    Hi, Justin! Could make a video about how to get the best snare sound from a Roland (or any brand) module? I like my snare sound but it is to dry and even the ambience and effects can't help me with that problem! I want a big, deep snare but I can't get it!

  • @trogwarrior5908
    @trogwarrior5908 Před 6 lety +1

    Hi, what would you say is better the PDX 100 or the pd105? I have the pd105 on my TD9 is it worth getting the pdx100? Thanks

  • @TenSpeedGaming
    @TenSpeedGaming Před 3 lety +1

    I have a TD-25 with the PDX100. I was wondering what trigger settings do you recommend for the snare using this pad? I have tried several things (currently using Linear curve, threshold 2, sensitivity 4), but I feel like I am getting loud ghost notes, and adjusting sensitivity down just eliminates high-sounding hits. Any tips? Thanks!

  • @KitCatStudio
    @KitCatStudio Před 5 lety +1

    great vid tnx, answered most of my Q, but what about the roland pd 105 ? is it close in performance to the td 100 ?

  • @pl3637
    @pl3637 Před 7 lety +1

    Hey Justin thanks for the review been thinking about the 125 . How do they handle cross sticks

  • @praveerkumar564
    @praveerkumar564 Před 7 lety +2

    thanks for replying to my previous question. Also, is the pd 105 better

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  Před 7 lety +2

      +Praveer Kumar the pdx105 has slightly better components, but I like the pd125 because it’s bigger

    • @praveerkumar564
      @praveerkumar564 Před 7 lety

      65 Drums thanks

  • @mmadchef808
    @mmadchef808 Před rokem

    Can you make a set with these? I have the smaller 8” pads and I would like a larger pad?

  • @nicrawlinson9278
    @nicrawlinson9278 Před 3 lety

    I'm confused as to why hot spotting is seen as a problem, when you hit an acoustic snare in the centre you get a louder, fuller sound, so in my mind, hotspotting just adds to a more realistic performance.

    • @quarantinedrums6289
      @quarantinedrums6289 Před 3 lety +1

      Because the volume increase you get from moving on to the hotspot (hitting directly on the triggercone) is unnatural; volume can spike from 80% -> 100% even if your hitting force stays the same.

    • @nicrawlinson9278
      @nicrawlinson9278 Před 3 lety +1

      @@quarantinedrums6289 Ah ok fair enough

  • @denispelchat4661
    @denispelchat4661 Před 6 lety +1

    Can you use either one on a KAT 4 module?,, thanks, and keep up the good work,, always great information.

  • @FVDaudio
    @FVDaudio Před 5 lety

    Is possible a new version of this video? PDX-12 (another rim, 12", etc) vs PDX100... PD128 n' PD125 with another module without positional sensing ¿? (TD17 module in my case per example). I'm looking the performance improvement for the snare if is necessary or if not. ¿?

  • @roma_hood
    @roma_hood Před 3 lety

    Nice video! Please day what you thinkin about Roland pads - used PD-120, PD-105 and new PDX-100? Now I choose between this. Thx!

  • @DominikAklan
    @DominikAklan Před 7 lety +2

    do those snare pads work with alesis drum modules?

  • @percyherrerareyna1192
    @percyherrerareyna1192 Před 3 lety

    Hello, I would like to know if I can configure the volume and sound of the rim of the PDX100 snare of a Roland TD25K

  • @jjtapes3888
    @jjtapes3888 Před 3 lety

    Hi,
    Can I plug a PDX100 on my Yamaha dtx multi 12 please ? Looks awesome but I'm scared that it dosent't work together.

  • @MasamuneYagyu99
    @MasamuneYagyu99 Před 9 měsíci

    Can you talk about the td7 moduel?

  • @DopamineOverload
    @DopamineOverload Před 4 lety

    Killer vid as always, Justin. Yes, Roland is definitely overpriced. However, some of the newer kits are priced very decently, all things considered. Maybe Roland finally got the hint! Quick question... what do you think of the PD-120 vs. the PD-125?

  • @theycallmethemememachine7973

    Hey, 65 drums I'm getting an electronic drum kit for Christmas the td25kv is too pricey and the td11kv seems a little crappy and overpriced what Roland electronic drum set is good for beginners like me?

  • @unlock-er
    @unlock-er Před 7 lety

    Thanks for vid, just wondering if you can please tell me the diff between pd100 an pdx100?

  • @Slicklickz
    @Slicklickz Před 5 lety

    Hey Justin you call the PD-125 a PD-120 repeatedly,and twice within the first 30 seconds.You might want to do an edit.

  • @sogent56
    @sogent56 Před rokem

    Does the pdx100 work with Kat KT4

  • @vibe808
    @vibe808 Před rokem

    Can the pdx100 be used on a td1dmk

  • @fuchsia5899
    @fuchsia5899 Před 4 lety

    Are you able to put the pd120 on a stand

  • @adonis5384
    @adonis5384 Před 4 lety

    Need help anyone? If you have td15 and wanted to upgrade your snare, pdx100 is more compatible but pdx12 has bigger playing surface, would you still get pdx100 even if you’re longing for bigger one? Thank you.

  • @josefreitasjunior5380
    @josefreitasjunior5380 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi Justin! Esses pads funcionam com um módulo Td11?

  • @cmdalbem
    @cmdalbem Před 3 lety

    does the PDX100 works with the TD-4 module? (that means, the module will support all these features such as positional sensing?)

    • @mafufu8323
      @mafufu8323 Před rokem

      czcams.com/video/12qHSGScCiQ/video.html

  • @jaycookson5923
    @jaycookson5923 Před 6 lety

    Do you think it would be worth adding these two pads to a Roland TD 25 KV as an upgrade?

  • @clemkelly2159
    @clemkelly2159 Před 5 lety

    I have both these.. got em second hand.. 200 for the big one.. hey man I'm think bout a new drum module.. witch is better td17 or td25.. they are the two I'm eyeing up

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  Před 5 lety +1

      TD17 for me personally

    • @clemkelly2159
      @clemkelly2159 Před 5 lety

      65 Drums thanks man.. that's what I'm gonna go with

  • @elbettto
    @elbettto Před 3 lety

    Hello and thanks for the video, can I use those in a TD-4K or TD-11K modules?? Thanks!

    • @ezrankamal
      @ezrankamal Před 2 lety

      It’ll definitely work on a TD-11 module. I’m planning to upgrade to the PDX-100 soon to replace my PDX-8 as a snare…can’t wait! 🥳🥳

  • @mikestein1024
    @mikestein1024 Před 7 lety

    Video idea Justin d.i.y mesh heads !!!

  • @321mzzz123
    @321mzzz123 Před 7 lety

    125

  • @extendedrangetechmetal1489

    if no one buy them new then no one could buy them used ;)

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  Před 6 lety

      True, but thankfully that never happens ;)

  • @monkeybusiness6417
    @monkeybusiness6417 Před 5 lety +1

    don't know about PD125BK, but DONT BUY PDX100 !!!! I had 3 PDX100 that came with my new TD50 and they're so awful I had to sell them right away and replaced them with old pads from an old TD9. Yes, they're worst than toms from old basic e-drums. Roland engineers are so stupid they put the cone sensor right in the middle. How could they do something that dumb, I really don't know, but it ruins every rolls you'll make. gold standard of the e-drum? this guy is tripping. This is the worst product ever made by Roland. Everybody hates it, just type "hotspot PDX100" on google and see by yourself.

    • @maximumguitarage
      @maximumguitarage Před rokem

      Thank You and 65 Drums did point out hot spot on both yet perfected the Roland 125 Black over the PDX-100, yes there is a trampoline effect I noticed on the PDX-100.

  • @K3NH
    @K3NH Před 5 lety

    Does anyone have td-1 module with pdx-100 snare? Is it possible to play cross stocking on it? I mean does td-1 provide it?
    Thanks
    Michal

    • @K3NH
      @K3NH Před 5 lety

      Sorry cross sticking technique...

    • @sparks1976
      @sparks1976 Před 5 lety

      @@K3NH no, although the PDX-100 works with the TD-1 module it does not support cross stick, just the rim shot

  • @willymccabe6602
    @willymccabe6602 Před 7 lety +1

    Exactly whike I'll never buy Roland

  • @insanegamer3852
    @insanegamer3852 Před 7 lety +1

    1st like and view

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  Před 7 lety

      +Insane Gamer I saw that, I appreciate the support!

  • @praveerkumar564
    @praveerkumar564 Před 7 lety

    can the pdx 100 be used with the td4 kit

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums  Před 7 lety

      +Praveer Kumar yup :)