@@diogosampaio9153 Minor Threat. Seeing these two bands could change your life, and always for the better. SLF has such great lyrics too. I mean, how can you write a better song than Nobody's Hero. And I'm not even taking about their political songs that are spot on.
I remeber watching this by myself jumping round the front room,we were lucky to be teenagers in the late 70's Punk was the last real youth culture movement its still felt today in so many ways
No, but it didnt have the lasting effect and real purpose punk has had e.g. the word punk is now used as a catch all for an attitude,diy rebel approach to something, it's used as a prefix like punk-art,punk-tv, punk-knitting etc. the acid house movement was great and influential with lots of great things coming out of it, but 50's rock n roll, 60's youth culture explosion and 70's punk 'year zero' kick in the bollocks are of a different order of magnitude,the fact we are still talking about it speaks volumes. Keep on rocking in the free world amigo.
Always going to be a special place in my heart for SLF. First saw them in 1982 aged 15 at the Glasgow Apollo. Still love their first 3 albums. The guitar intro to "Alternative Ulster" never fails to make me stop & listen
This is a documentary about Rough Trade independent record label- the most important. SLF were just one of the bands. I remember this being broadcast- i was 14 and it was all so fucking exciting and inspiring. Being from Belfast, I wanted to see what they made of SLF but i loved all the weirdness of Essential Logic, The Raincoats, Robert Rental etc, adding imagination to the energy. I ended up getting records by all of them. And it was ALL punk- a philosophy not a format.
Got on the SLF tour bus in 1990? at the marquee ,me and a mate popped a pill love dove ,punks on E must have bored them to death don't remember being on there long 🤣🍀
always remember this being shown. they put the lyrics of alternative ulster as subtitles because they thought people couldnt understand him. i couldnt at the time !
The Electric Ballroom was an interesting place (with its daytime indoor market)... No idea what it's like now.... The 'MusicMachine', 'the Venue' & the Lyceum in the Strand were also good... The Marquee was historic ,but frankly a bit of a dive.. The Hammersmith Odean - I don't know anybody who liked the place....
I cannot in all sincerity begin without thanking those who, even despite their flaws and weaknesses came before me, I AM ONE lucky bastard, to have been bourne in such an age of freedom and transparency, the like of which we know not now..... 3 cheers for the MI5/CIA, it's upon this basis as to whether I "judge/understand myself to be free"and therefore I judge myself not to be bound by their limitations and statutes !!!
thanks for putting this online.saw this when it was first on (holiday in cornwall) and bought inflammable material next day in falmouth .had forgotten all the good music on this documentry. rough trade label had some good stuff
reindeer o'stoole....a bit late ,but ...the weather- it was really warm then there was a 'tropical storm thing ' for a few hours ...then it dried out again in minutes- as I hadn't been abroad ,it was very odd (to somebody from east London)
I think what is actually said towards the end is relevant- SLF (in my experiences) were from 1980 to '83 a 'Good Rock Band' - considering their Debut lp & 'Gotta Gettaway/Bloody Sunday 7" were some of the last 'Great UK punk rock records' ...it felt a bit of a let down ...but as the guy at Rough Trade said " the releases in a bands first couple of years are often the best/most interesting"...
Having been born in an age when, even picking your nose was, I always remember at age 4-5 being chastised by a local church-elder that I was going to hell for such an action, some of you may think this pedantic, but being a left-hander and being sent to a darkened room at the end of the corridor, one is left feeling.......words can't describe this, I still can't describe how that felt to this day......Isolated/alone/different doesn't quite cover it!!! It's only when you're pushed to the extremes of society that you can "connect" with others and feel some sort of belonging in the words they sing, such as SLF, Joy Division, The Clash, The Damned etc...... not that I connect with all these 100%, but they all empathised with those on the margins of society, yes....I still put myself there, I'm not normal(thank FUCK) cos that would be a banality that would push me over the edge, it's my insanity that keeps me going forward, the ever-glinting chance that my mind/brain/intellect might come up with a scintilla of logic that can end this madness.....such as which we call "Civilisation" Thing is, Jesus/Buddah/Ghandi came up with it, "Do unto others as you would do unto yourself", Man is inherently evil......deal with it !!!! I've hidden under a mask for the most part of my life, now the mask is off....... It's time to tell shit as it IS !!!
Abso-fuckin-lutely bud, civilisation is a mis-nomer, an illusion....we are driven by primal urges/instincts, to fuck the other person over is basics !!!
The good/evil shit is what we've been indoctrinated with, the dichotomy to keep us here, to not look beyond, there is no good or evil as such, there is ony that which IS !!!
I kept buying Crass record after record giving them every chance in the world, to prove that they deserved all the hype and following that they had here in L.A. and other states~But it was in vein!!! Overall opinion (Mine) "they just sucked~hands down"! :-\ ! I thought the band "Chaos" was extremely better, as I did with The Partisans,4-Skins,Cockney Rejects,Sham69,U.K. Subs, Subhumans,GBH, and this list is long! It's all about the music that was being used to hold up reality in the self/society discrimating mirror into the faces of those that turned their heads to this reality and made them face it with "musical shock~treatmant! For the most part it was working!
G. DALY...I didnt know Crass had a following in the U.S. - I liked them 'musically' . But wasn't keen about their absolute certainty in the political views they espoused. I dont think you can compare the (later) rock/punk bands like the Subs, Cockney Rejects,4-skins etc with the Hardline Anarchist/ political bands like Crass , Poison Girls, Zounds, Flux of Pink Indians etc....they had completely different 'agendas'....
+mark jones I totally agree with you there. Some bands nowadays try to force it by purely screaming and shouting for the sake of it. Their style is shit, but with Jake's, pure gold!
WHITE working class? you do realise that slf went on tour with rock against racism with the clash don't you? plus punk had numerous connections with black music - the famous connection that punk had with reggae at the time for instance.
It’s suppose to be about rough trade as a label and shop (which they were at the time) but ends up being a bit of publicity for SLF?! Give it a year and ironically SLF end up signing to Chrysalis which was a subsidiary of EMI anyway, so by their own standards they sold out in the end so what was the point??!!
If you want real Punk- click on Crass or some other under-rated shyte, not saying I dislike Crass, I do.....fuckin' love em, or Sub-humans or Amebix, DIG-FUCKING-DEEPER !!!!
In retrospect....hmmm, maybe, it's ok for us now to cast a critical eye over what was a vibrant, anarchist movement..... Crass/The Clash, SLF/Sex Pistols, The Damned/Dead Kennedys...... We're all basically wanting the same thing.... Emancipation, to be freed from the economics of the slave-trade that IS capitalism ......no ?
+ jonblazeinc - I've been listening to it since I was 12. It ain't even reggae influenced. Listen to Bob Marley, that's reggae. White reggae is different, bur still reggae, listen to 'Love in Vein' by the Ruts
This was on the the night before I went to watch SLF at the Manchester Apollo my first gig
SLF--one of the two most inspirational punk bands i've ever seen.
What's the other?
@@diogosampaio9153 Minor Threat. Seeing these two bands could change your life, and always for the better. SLF has such great lyrics too. I mean, how can you write a better song than Nobody's Hero. And I'm not even taking about their political songs that are spot on.
@@willieluncheonette5843cheers mate 🎉
This is my youth
I remeber watching this by myself jumping round the front room,we were lucky to be teenagers in the late 70's Punk was the last real youth culture movement its still felt today in so many ways
Pubert Stench Did you forget about the Acid house movement?
No, but it didnt have the lasting effect and real purpose punk has had e.g. the word punk is now used as a catch all for an attitude,diy rebel approach to something, it's used as a prefix like punk-art,punk-tv, punk-knitting etc. the acid house movement was great and influential with lots of great things coming out of it, but 50's rock n roll, 60's youth culture explosion and 70's punk 'year zero' kick in the bollocks are of a different order of magnitude,the fact we are still talking about it speaks volumes. Keep on rocking in the free world amigo.
Pubert Stench Did you miss Hip Hop too? Must have been too busy telling people about punk.
youaintpunk No hip hop is cool,but what happens in the Obese States of America means nothing to me.
Grime then. It's beyond an American scene.
Always going to be a special place in my heart for SLF. First saw them in 1982 aged 15 at the Glasgow Apollo. Still love their first 3 albums. The guitar intro to "Alternative Ulster" never fails to make me stop & listen
Me too, awesome gig at a mental venue.
This is a documentary about Rough Trade independent record label- the most important. SLF were just one of the bands. I remember this being broadcast- i was 14 and it was all so fucking exciting and inspiring. Being from Belfast, I wanted to see what they made of SLF but i loved all the weirdness of Essential Logic, The Raincoats, Robert Rental etc, adding imagination to the energy. I ended up getting records by all of them. And it was ALL punk- a philosophy not a format.
saw slf last year, fucking spectacular! they've still got it, and strummerville was incredible, so much heart in that song.
I seen SLF about 15 time, first time was in 1980, the last time was last week. They are getting better as the years go by.
Got on the SLF tour bus in 1990? at the marquee ,me and a mate popped a pill love dove ,punks on E must have bored them to death don't remember being on there long 🤣🍀
always remember this being shown. they put the lyrics of alternative ulster as subtitles because they thought people couldnt understand him. i couldnt at the time !
Thanks for posting this. I was at this gig as a 15 year old...Electric Ballroom, Camden Town :-)
Liar
Love the swedish subtitles so that I could understand what the english gentleman were saying. Been to Dublin Castle Camden Town...
The Electric Ballroom was an interesting place (with its daytime indoor market)... No idea what it's like now....
The 'MusicMachine', 'the Venue' & the Lyceum in the Strand were also good...
The Marquee was historic ,but frankly a bit of a dive..
The Hammersmith Odean - I don't know anybody who liked the place....
Surely the gig is at Aylesbury Friars?
@@adammarshall9225 No it was the Electric ballroom. I was there with one eye Ada who was well know around the punk scene back then.
I cannot in all sincerity begin without thanking those who, even despite their flaws and weaknesses came before me, I AM ONE lucky bastard, to have been bourne in such an age of freedom and transparency, the like of which we know not now.....
3 cheers for the MI5/CIA, it's upon this basis as to whether I "judge/understand myself to be free"and therefore I judge myself not to be bound by their limitations and statutes !!!
thank you....thank you....thank you....
Wow! This is great, the clip of the Raincoats recording Fairytale is amazing, also, live clip of Robert Rental/Normal is great, thanks
thanks for putting this online.saw this when it was first on (holiday in cornwall) and bought inflammable material next day in falmouth .had forgotten all the good music on this documentry. rough trade label had some good stuff
what was the weather like when you was in cornwall m8? was it raining m8?
jemmy o'hooligan
thanks you were in holiday wanker.
Pete Rigan, er..what does
'thanks you were in holiday wanker.' mean....
reindeer o'stoole....a bit late ,but ...the weather- it was really warm then there was a 'tropical storm thing ' for a few hours ...then it dried out again in minutes- as I hadn't been abroad ,it was very odd (to somebody from east London)
thanks for sharing this, awesome viewing. SLF are on their 40th Anniversary tour this year and dare I say it, they are better than ever!
Thanks for this - I never got to see Essential Logic/Lora Logic live so it was nice to see their appearance on here...
Whoah....these Raincoats were very good......have to check them out.....
Cheers Jake and the boys for the tunes over the year's.👍🔥🔥 Fuck Rough Trade , can't keep a good band down.👍👍🔥🔥
love the punk energy!!
This 7:02 - 7:26 is pure, golden record heaven
tx: 27 May 1979
I think what is actually said towards the end is relevant- SLF (in my experiences) were from 1980 to '83 a 'Good Rock Band' - considering their Debut lp & 'Gotta Gettaway/Bloody Sunday 7" were some of the last 'Great UK punk rock records' ...it felt a bit of a let down ...but as the guy at Rough Trade said " the releases in a bands first couple of years are often the best/most interesting"...
That's like talking to someone about a new cocktail, and then smack them in the face with a hammer.
SLF "Here We Are Nowhere" is at 21:45
Having been born in an age when, even picking your nose was, I always remember at age 4-5 being chastised by a local church-elder that I was going to hell for such an action, some of you may think this pedantic, but being a left-hander and being sent to a darkened room at the end of the corridor, one is left feeling.......words can't describe this, I still can't describe how that felt to this day......Isolated/alone/different doesn't quite cover it!!! It's only when you're pushed to the extremes of society that you can "connect" with others and feel some sort of belonging in the words they sing, such as SLF, Joy Division, The Clash, The Damned etc...... not that I connect with all these 100%, but they all empathised with those on the margins of society, yes....I still put myself there, I'm not normal(thank FUCK) cos that would be a banality that would push me over the edge, it's my insanity that keeps me going forward, the ever-glinting chance that my mind/brain/intellect might come up with a scintilla of logic that can end this madness.....such as which we call "Civilisation"
Thing is, Jesus/Buddah/Ghandi came up with it, "Do unto others as you would do unto yourself", Man is inherently evil......deal with it !!!!
I've hidden under a mask for the most part of my life, now the mask is off.......
It's time to tell shit as it IS !!!
pazuzu666ish Man isn't evil, he is merely an animal and his jungle is this shit we call civilisation.
Abso-fuckin-lutely bud, civilisation is a mis-nomer, an illusion....we are driven by primal urges/instincts, to fuck the other person over is basics !!!
The good/evil shit is what we've been indoctrinated with, the dichotomy to keep us here, to not look beyond, there is no good or evil as such, there is ony that which IS !!!
+pazuzu666ish Yawn...
Sally Smith Tired?
I kept buying Crass record after record giving them every chance in the world, to prove that they deserved all the hype and following that they had here in L.A. and other states~But it was in vein!!! Overall opinion (Mine) "they just sucked~hands down"! :-\ ! I thought the band "Chaos" was extremely better, as I did with The Partisans,4-Skins,Cockney Rejects,Sham69,U.K. Subs, Subhumans,GBH, and this list is long! It's all about the music that was being used to hold up reality in the self/society discrimating mirror into the faces of those that turned their heads to this reality and made them face it with "musical shock~treatmant! For the most part it was working!
+G. DALY SLF were a pretty inspirational band as well
Never mind, we couldn't all like the good stuff.
G. DALY...I didnt know Crass had a following in the U.S. - I liked them 'musically' . But wasn't keen about their absolute certainty in the political views they espoused.
I dont think you can compare the (later) rock/punk bands like the Subs, Cockney Rejects,4-skins etc with the Hardline Anarchist/ political bands like Crass , Poison Girls, Zounds, Flux of Pink Indians etc....they had completely different 'agendas'....
And the band kicks ass, top of the UK punks like the Pistols
Jake Vs. Skrewdriver
BACKSTREET BOYS...7.17...VERY STRANGE...?
ahh,back when jake could sing,i mean raw punk rock sing
+mark jones Jake could never sing.
Ed Ball
you're joking mate,he had the most perfect gravelly unique punk singing voice
+mark jones I totally agree with you there. Some bands nowadays try to force it by purely screaming and shouting for the sake of it. Their style is shit, but with Jake's, pure gold!
mark jones 😂
mark jones Little bit thinner then too. 😂
29:49 ah lads ffs
Punk was the last real white working class movement in music - we'll never see its like again.
Sally Smith Fucking Grime is working class street music. Or don't you listen to black music genres?
Rave was pretty working class and certainly revolutionary!
WHITE working class? you do realise that slf went on tour with rock against racism with the clash don't you? plus punk had numerous connections with black music - the famous connection that punk had with reggae at the time for instance.
Cuz there is no white working class anymore, thats why.
That is freaking sad....
It’s suppose to be about rough trade as a label and shop (which they were at the time) but ends up being a bit of publicity for SLF?! Give it a year and ironically SLF end up signing to Chrysalis which was a subsidiary of EMI anyway, so by their own standards they sold out in the end so what was the point??!!
oh lets all talk about how it used to be.
Misleading video title :(
Punk is subjective, my term is a ass born in waleth thats somewhere near Hawelt
If you want real Punk- click on Crass or some other under-rated shyte, not saying I dislike Crass, I do.....fuckin' love em, or Sub-humans or Amebix, DIG-FUCKING-DEEPER !!!!
pazuzu666ish Crass.....horrible hippies
In retrospect....hmmm, maybe, it's ok for us now to cast a critical eye over what was a vibrant, anarchist movement.....
Crass/The Clash, SLF/Sex Pistols, The Damned/Dead Kennedys......
We're all basically wanting the same thing....
Emancipation, to be freed from the economics of the slave-trade that IS capitalism ......no ?
pazuzu666ish bullshit crass
That guy looks like a Muppet
they wanna waste my life
Rastas, not Rusters!
FFM0594 but I thought it was a ginger haired movement LUL
Hey, that Kleenex/STF collaboration was pretty cool and unexpected Or X-Ray Spex. Whatever it was.
Who's the 5 pricks that thumbs doon this!!!??😠😠😠
Sounds like shit. NICE!!!
Sorry all not in the same league as the Clash. RIP JOE.
Only ever were 3 bands who could play white reggae. The Clash (Police and Thieves), SLF (Johnny Was) and the Ruts (Love in Vein)
Richard Hewit stranglers - nice and sleazy
+ jonblazeinc - 'Nice 'n Sleazy' is not regae.
Richard Hewit of course its influence by reggae ... listen to it properly
+ jonblazeinc - I've been listening to it since I was 12. It ain't even reggae influenced. Listen to Bob Marley, that's reggae. White reggae is different, bur still reggae, listen to 'Love in Vein' by the Ruts