FOOLPROOF Method for Installing Seiko Diashock Springs
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- In this video, I show you a method I discovered that makes installing the Seiko Diashock spring a piece of cake no matter your skill level.
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Wow!!! it is so simple. Of course, we need a guru like Alex to teach us this. Thank you so much for this wonderful video.
You're very welcome my friend.👍
Glad to see you back, Alex! 👍
I haven't went anywhere. I've just been busy writing and filming for my watchmaking course which is turned into a massive project.
Once complete, I'll be posting videos on the channel here on a more regular basis .
@@watchrepairtutorials Thats awesome !!!!
can you preview some ?
@@sonnymoorehouse1941 the material from the course will not be on CZcams, but I do post some of the smaller videos on my Patreon page
Thanks Alex, just bought two that were made in Japan so I'm sure Seiko would approve. LOL
Perfect!
Great tip here, Alex. Thank you for the vid. The smaller diafix settings on the train bridge with this type of spring are even more difficult. Pack your patience with these.
This tip will definitely help my friend.
Installing the two springs of the main bridge is absolutely more painful because it is necessary to apply greater pressure to both ends of the spring for them to fit. The stone disengages several times, spreading the oil bubble. In addition, it would be necessary to maneuver the tweezers to rotate the stone after it has been lubricated. This took me hours of learning last Sunday. If you could make a video with some tips it could be very useful. Hugs!
If the endstone is fully seated into the chaton it should not come out.
Even with the balance installed when the shock setting that you are working on is facing up the balance pivot is resting on the shock setting below the balance
Evaluate whether you're putting enough oil onto the end-stones to hold it in place.
I think this method should help a lot of you having issues with installing this type of spring.
Do you have the pivot in the jewel hole?
@@The_Scienceboy yep. No problem at all.
The older triangle style spring setting is so much easier to deal with than this style. What is even more fun than the setting on top of the balance cock is the other two capped pivot settings underneath the magic lever.
You can pretty much use this on any spring that is not hinged into the block.
Bravo.
An excellent idea👍🏻
The picker is $8 on eBay. Mines on the way🤘🏻😆🤘🏻
Rock on!
That's Genius !!!!!
Well, I don't know about that sir, but it works pretty good
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@@watchrepairtutorials Sign ?
@@sonnymoorehouse1941 typo. It should've said Sir.
very nice trick !! thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for visiting
Thank you so much, just about to buy one or maybe two.
Any time!
Excellent idea! In the past I have had jewels and springs "go into orbit" using the 2 tweezers method. Perhaps with the jewel picker, they won't get airborne so easily. Thanks for sharing.
From my experience using this method, you would almost have to try to launch one. This will work on any unhinged shock spring that has to be turned.
You really are the best Alex. Every recommendation is pure gold. I ordered one of these as soon as I watched the video. Same as I did when I watched your uv lamp for finding lost jewels video (also good for finding where the dog peed on the carpet). Thank you so much.
Hello my friend, I hope all is well with you. Thank you as always. Never stop learning.
Trim and cut peg wood and drill the tip so that it is concave,that fits the centre circle of the jewel setting then you have the simplest easy to use tool to do this.Just place the shock spring and use the convex shaped end of the peg wood straight down on the spring and turn it into its grooves.This is the way many watch makers set this spring easily with one hand.
My viewers have seen me make that exact tool you describe in other videos and it does work but you need a much steadier hand.
The pegwood doesn't grip the spring as well as this method and leaves residue behind that needs to be cleaned up
IMO, this is a much safer way to do it.
Thanks for the tip. I ordered one from Amazon and got it the other day. As you say it's really good for a lot of tasks. I was using it to hold the cap jewels on Incabloc settings on a small ST69 movement to rub them on watch paper cleaning them and moving them around for oiling.
Exactly. Glad to hear you're finding it useful. Oh by the way, I enjoyed your cartoons as child. Yabba dabba doo.
I purchased one of those a while back and use it for a variety of small parts, it's brilliant!
Totally agree! 😊
Thanks master Alex, I will need this.
You are very welcome, my friend
Great tip! Thanks, Alex.
Hope you can use this one.
Right on.
Hello Alex your videos are so amazing I’m a newbie watchmaker hobby but this tool is fantastic thank you so much for your expertise
Thank you very much. What I concentrate on is much different than most others.
I hope what I'm doing here helps you become a better watchmaker.
@@watchrepairtutorials when I save money up I’m going to pay for the learning
Ordered. Thank you Alex.
What do you think Ross. Do you think this will help some new people?
Great tip Alex. Accidental discovery keeps the world going lol.
Hello my friend. It was an aha moment.😜
@watchrepairtutorials Sort of like when I discovered the true purpose of Rodico lol.
Position tweezers, cover spring and tweezers with Rodico, remove spring. Thus putting an end to the Swiss Space Program.
Edit: click springs, yoke springs etc
Great job
Thank you, Mr. King
Top tip Alex, gotta get myself a jewel picker!
Hey Mr. Sergeant. I got to be honest with you. It works amazingly well on any spring that has to be pushed down and turned.
What a fantastic help that is absolute game changer 👏
I thought this might help a few people. 👍
Actually didn't know that tool existed! I'll be getting one.....
Hi Mike,
You can't beat a tool that can simplify an important task for six bucks. It's a no-brainer.
Thanks Alex, I do have a jewel picker, great have another use for it 😀
Great minds think alike Tom.
Thank you again Alex. Great information and video!
Thanks as always John
Alex, I often wonder what the thought process was when Diashock was approved in Seiko as a solution. Surely the first watchmakers to see this were not amused. Thanks for the video...
Well, don't forget they have machinery that assembles all this so I would imagine that whatever's putting in the springs as a very similar material to what is on the tip of this jewel picker.
Absolutely amazing content! As a watchmaker hobbyist I can honestly say that most of my skills accuired are because of you and your clear, easily understandable instructions.
Btw, has anyone ever told you that you sound exactly like Tom Hanks?
Thanks my friend. I can honestly say that no one has ever told me that.
Thanks again.
Brilliant! No more tiddlywinking! 👏🏼
LOL. Damn, that would have been a good video title. 🤣
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@@watchrepairtutorials Hi Alex, I used your link to order the jewel picker… It's great! I just used it to handle the tiny C-clips holding the pushers in on a Casio G-Shock watch. So much easier than using tweezers, and much more controllable than Rodico. So thanks again! 👍😁
@@WatchWithMike 👍
Every time I watch one of your videos Amazon makes money.
oh, but just think of the mental strain it prevents.😉
Three times in one take. Now you’re just showing off. 😂 Seriously though, helpful tip. Thank you once again.
lol. I really just wanted to demonstrate, however effortless this method is.
thanks for the tip! ordered
How about Swiss Incabloc springs, specifically the U shaped for the balance. I have had one arm break off.
Yeah, they're typically regarded as the easiest ones because they're hinged. Sometimes they break because of rough handling and sometimes just because they've been opened up and closed many many times.
They could be replaced if you know the size either by just slipping them in to the block, but sometimes the entire block needs to come out to put it in .
@@watchrepairtutorials I actually ended up buying a donor movement to just press the lower balance jewel in place on a Luciene Piccard LP40 movement. Went to oil the lower incabloc and the arm just detached. I did not know and couldnt find a video on how to replace just the spring.
Thanks man!
No problem!
Nice Tip...
Thank you as always my friend
Hey Alex, how it going. Thanks for showing the tip on this Jewel. Seen some people use fancy auto oilers, what do you think of them?
They have their application, but they're typically more useful if you're oiling the same thing over and over. Each wheel of the train requires a different amount of oil, right?
If you have it set up with 9010 to oil the shock jewels and then use it to oil the escape wheel, the escape wheel will receive too much oil.
Perfecting your oiling technique is the way to go
The larger Diashock is not too bad. The smaller Diafix is much more difficult to work with. I think this tool would make that much easier.
I agree that the Diashock balance springs get easier the more you do. Hopefully this will help some people that just can't seem to get it..
Alex, I have learned so much from your videos with the clear way you describe processes. I do have on question as it relates to a regulator pin arm on a Seiko movement. What is the best method for reattaching the regulator arm back onto the balance cock?
what's the movement?
@@watchrepairtutorials The movement is a Seiko 6309A
@@nealshapiro8197 Doesn't the shock jewel block hold it in place? Did you take it off?
@@watchrepairtutorials the shock jewel and spring has been removed. What remains is a post which holds the stud arm , and ideally the regulator pin arm. The circular block appears to have a ridige to receive both arms. I made the assumption those fit much in that same way a bezel might click into place.
Are you saying the block removes? How? That would also receive the top balance pivot.
@@nealshapiro8197 the block is the circular piece that holds the chaton with the end stone and holds the balance jewel that you can see on the other side of the balance cock.
the arm for the hairspring stud and regulator arm are sandwiched between it and balance cock.
to install the regulator arm, you need to press out the block with a jewel press and then put the regulator arm in position and press the block back in.
If you try to pry it open so that it fits over the block you'll deform the regular arm .
You also need a set of incobloc stumps To be able to support the balance cock while you press it out. Regular jewel stomps are too thick in the balance cock will not sit flat while you're pressing it out..
Those things were designed by Satan but I'm proud to say I can usually set even the small train bridge ones now with tweezers without a lot of grief. I AM gonna switch to this method but I'm wondering if the tip of the jewel picker is small enough for those?
Great vid as usual
Yes, it is and it will speed up the process greatly.
@@watchrepairtutorials Awesome! Thanks, got one in my cousins basket!
Your vids have been a huge help. I have an ETA 2879 with a similar balance setup. The banace has a lot of wiggle to it, and I think the top pivot is broken/worn out. I don't know how to remove the hairspring from the balance cock. Can you help?
In this video, i show how to remove the hairspring stud and then replace it.
Adjusting the Etachron Regulator: A Beginners Guide
czcams.com/video/ExfFlYFAffg/video.html
@watchrepairtutorials I knew I had seen you do this before. Thank you so so much. I removed the wheel, checked the pivots, and reinstalled everything with your method. I checked pivots and jewels. Wobbles so much it overbanks every time I install it. I'm kind of at a loss.
I've been staying away from Seiko watches for this very reason. However, my problem has not been with the anti-shock springs for the balance but with the 3rd wheel and the escape wheel. Have you tried your method on those insanely small springs? Did it work, or did you skip cleaning those?
LOL. Man I totally agree with you on this one.
Why so many end-stones.
Absolutely will work. It just talked a little more precision. You can dew it.
@@watchrepairtutorials OKAY 👍 I’ll give it a go!
So this is okay to use on a dial? Can you clean these jewel pickers or do you have to just buy more?
Yes. I would use a rolling method and make sure to test it in an inconspicuous area. There's always exceptions to the rule. It should be fine for most dials as long as they're in decent condition
Вы счастливый человек, вам не приходилось ставить эти пружинки на анкерном колесе часов Ракета и на балансе Славы 2428 😂
No sir. I did not really work on very many Soviet watches. I am glad that others do. 😉
Looks like somebody smokes non-filters. 👍👍
Lol.
That one show is not Diashock
It is confusing because Seiko has a couple versions, this one and the 3 prong cloverleaf style.
Seiko calls both the Diashock.
@@watchrepairtutorials clover leaf style is Diashock 😊
Wonderful video !
@@manusudha4269 yes you are right. Both of them are called Diashock. If you don't believe me you can just look it up on Seiko's website. Better yet here is the link to Seiko
www.seikowatches.com/ph-en/products/presage/presage-movement-info
@@watchrepairtutorials I believe you 😊
Very nice.I am having great difficulty trying to install that part but on the other two pivots, where they are smaller and harder to handle. I am referring to the mini diashock located under the magic lever ar1ms of the automatic. I will try this method, thank you very much!
You can do it!
I received it yesterday. It works great! And I also used it with great success to remove those U-shaped springs that tend to fly all over the room. Easy!