Soul-sucking wedding gigs

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  • @FoolishFrankie
    @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 8 dny +4

    Some of you are commenting before watching the vid😂
    Anyways check out my patreon I do reviews/tours of the venues I play at amongst a bunch of other things! www.patreon.com/foolishfrankie

    • @youKnowWho3311
      @youKnowWho3311 Pƙed 3 dny

      Awesome vid. When you ripped the Paul Simon solo bit up front. Rad. There's lots of people playing to their computer screens. I miss being on stage and seeing a whole crowd bounce up and down to my guitar/vocals, but not the rest of the gear toting and such. I definitely don't miss playing the same songs every Fri/Sat for 2 YEARS STRAIGHT. Oh yeah, and one drink per set/hour calmed my nerves. You have to remember one thing. It's a Performance.

  • @WmRob
    @WmRob Pƙed 22 dny +270

    We played a wedding reception gig where the brides mother pre-approved our setlist to be certain we didn’t play anything that might trigger anyone. Our usual sets are two 45 minute sets with the usual extended versions of tines like YMCA, Uptown Funk and The Chicken Dance but she did not approve those songs. We started the 1st set with the usual bride/groom dance then father/daughter, mother/groom stuff. Then the dance floor was open and we were immediately besieged by requests for all the banned songs. Event the groom came up asking us to liven up and we told him about mama’s censorship of our setlist. He just told us to play. So we ignored her ban and played the fun stuff. At the end of the set, mama came up and fired us, refusing to pay us and pulled our power. We went out to discuss our strategy and the bride’s dad came out, handed us a check and said “play what you want. I’ll deal with her.”

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 21 dnem +64

      Omg that sounds like a nightmare😅😅 glad the husband took care of getting you paid at least!!

    • @RufusWhite
      @RufusWhite Pƙed 11 dny +31

      I had a very similar experience DJing at a wedding - the bride had given me a playlist in advance (with timing down to the second for each song). I might as well have been an iPod that night. One look at the playlist was all I needed to know that it wasn’t going to be a fun night. Predictably, nobody was dancing to her selection, and about 20 minutes in, the groom came over to me and asked what the problem was, and like you, said to just ditch the playlist and get people going. So I did, and within a couple of songs had the dancefloor packed. Then the bride came over to me *screaming* at me for going off the playlist, and that I had to get back to *her* music. I got on the mic and - just to cover my ass- made a little comment about going back to the Bride’s playlist - wasn’t nasty or degrading about it, just said “And now we’re going to have a few more tracks from [bride]’s selection
.”. Again, the dancefloor cleared in moments, again she comes over to me screaming “HOW DARE YOU EMBARRASS ME ON MY WEDDING DAY!!”. She called my agent, tried to get me fired, told me I wasn’t going to get paid. A really big part of me wanted to just pack my stuff up and leave, but I was in desperate need of the money. I limped out the rest of the gig not daring to say anything on the mic, just sticking to her godawful playlist and wishing it would just end.
      At the end of the night, as I was packing up, the groom came up with my cheque, which he’d added a nice tip to, said thanks, and apologised for her behaviour. I breathed a sigh of relief.
      10 minutes later, and the bride came back in, screamed at me all over again, demanded I hand the cheque over to her, and then proceeded to rip it up in front of me. The worst part was that I then got it in the neck from my agent the next day too, who’d only heard her side of the story of course. He made me write a letter of apology to her to protect his business.
      Strangely, the marriage didn’t last long.

    • @graaaby
      @graaaby Pƙed 11 dny +10

      The brides mom shouldn’t be the one to make the decisions it should be the bride and the groom

    • @webstercat
      @webstercat Pƙed 10 dny +7

      Groom has a Karen In Law

    • @WmRob
      @WmRob Pƙed 10 dny +1

      @@graaaby Ha. Never been married, eh? 😉

  • @NelsonStJames
    @NelsonStJames Pƙed 12 dny +64

    It kills me when I go to an event with any live music whether it’s a band, or just a pianist and the musician is really good and people are just ignoring it. I always take the time to acknowledge the musicians and show some appreciation. It’s crazy what people take for granted.

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 11 dny +3

      I appreciate you!!

    • @larryfinke6133
      @larryfinke6133 Pƙed 9 dny +4

      It goes both ways too. I’ve played with some awful musicians and the people don’t notice that either.

    • @RickyMontijo
      @RickyMontijo Pƙed 6 dny

      I feel like this is more and more common


    • @krausewitz6786
      @krausewitz6786 Pƙed 5 dny +3

      You don't owe the band anything. Also, people can do multiple things at a time. Expecting a WEDDING to grind to a halt and hang on every note is ludicrous, and downright narcissistic. That gig IS NOT ABOUT THE BAND. It is about the couple getting married. That's it.

  • @banzaiib
    @banzaiib Pƙed 29 dny +193

    You play the best when you have no pressure. Some of your Omegle stuff is the most nuanced, soulful, fully present in the moment playing I've ever heard. If you can put yourself in that mindset during gigs, truly, I think you'll play magnificently.

  • @Mellerman4
    @Mellerman4 Pƙed 29 dny +96

    I've had my share of gigs that had various levels of "soul sucking". I had a professor in college who used to say that gigs can fulfill your mind or they can fulfill your wallet, it's rare that they do both so appreciate those times. I've found for me that gigs where you're playing with people that you don't like or get along with combined with playing music that you're not really into are the most soul sucking. I had a cruise ship contract where the band didn't get along and we were playing cheesy arrangements of pop tunes for 2 months. Being trapped together like that was pretty soul crushing.

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny +11

      Oh geeze yeah that sounds rough 😅 thanks for watching!!

    • @FlatDerrick
      @FlatDerrick Pƙed 8 dny +3

      I've always lived by the two in three principle.Playing with people you like, music you like and for money you like - 2 out of 3 of those and you are onto a winner.

  • @kevinpaige5746
    @kevinpaige5746 Pƙed 10 dny +14

    WOW! A horn player not only "looked" at the charts ahead of time, but actually practiced through them! I applaud you sir!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 10 dny +3

      This what professional musicians should do regardless of the instrument they play

    • @ddonahue3436
      @ddonahue3436 Pƙed 4 dny

      WOW! There were even charts.

  • @josemelrose5465
    @josemelrose5465 Pƙed 10 dny +13

    So many stories to tell! One wedding various elderly members of the bridal party would come over and tell us to turn down, we kept turning down and they kept asking, then as a joke I told the band to mime playing and I sang unaccompanied off the mic, the mother approached us and said “Perfect”.

    • @cogman62
      @cogman62 Pƙed 5 dny +1

      In our band, we informed the Karen, “we can’t turn it down.” We kept on playing. Screw you lady, just leave.

    • @lbenterpriseservicesllc1923
      @lbenterpriseservicesllc1923 Pƙed 2 dny +2

      Again, as someone who has been in the entetainment business for over 30 years here is what you do... First when someone who is older tells you to turn down, I always ask respectfully: Do you wear Hearing Aids? 9 out of 10 times they say yes.... Well could you please turn them down. And say: I am here to accommodate as many people as possible not just one who is wearing aids that makes everything so much louder. Next this one gets them all the time..... Just say sure No problem... Then make sure they see go to the back of the speaker and pretend to turn it down.. Then a few minutes later go ask them is that okay? Everytime they will say yes.... Believe me this works....

  • @TechArtRoom
    @TechArtRoom Pƙed 24 dny +49

    I've played weddings in Western PA for about 20 to 25 years. I could tell you so many entertaining stories including...
    bridezillas, equipment truck breakdowns, parents fighting, crazy song requests, fights, broken fingers,
    In my opinion, these are the things that make weddings fail/not fun
    - bride, groom, parents too worried about impressing people rather than having a fun time
    - bride/groom that tries to control the song list rather than letting the band read and adjust to the crowd
    - too much stopping the momentum for taking pictures
    - venue owners/managers are are hard to work with ( although we did very well earning the respect of just about all)
    - weddings that are just too damn long
    - trying to play the bridal dance polka live for 25 minutes straight.
    - having a venue where people can "escape" the atmosphere of the band. For example, if the bar is in a different room or if there is a giant balcony outside and people just hang out there all night.
    I have always tried to see if our band was a "good fit" for what they are looking for. I never would try to push it on them. I explained the pros and cons of having a live band and let them make their own decisions. All in all I have had a pleasurable experience playing hundreds of weddings but there are always so many great stories.
    I get the soul sucking thing. It's all about balancing and compromising where it is enjoyable for you and the customer.

    • @Not_Even_Wrong
      @Not_Even_Wrong Pƙed 22 dny +7

      You brought back some memories to me 😂. God damn some people can't organize a party... Oh man, Well now in retrospect it's funny..

    • @timeWaster76
      @timeWaster76 Pƙed 12 dny +1

      I only lated a few wedding and bridezillas, equipment breakdowns, families fighting, crazy song requests, fights, broken faces pretty much sums it up.,

  • @steelers3321
    @steelers3321 Pƙed 29 dny +58

    Your tin whistle solo and everyone’s reactions are always my favorite part

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny +5

      LOL well thanks!

    • @jbreezy101
      @jbreezy101 Pƙed 29 dny

      The woman at 0:09 and 0:46 was wowed by that moment in that video.

  • @bigmistqke
    @bigmistqke Pƙed 11 dny +7

    I love that line about 'figuring out things in a forgiving environment'. It's like the research doesn't stop after school, but u just have to figure out spaces where u can develop safely, especially in the beginning.

  • @kboyer1011
    @kboyer1011 Pƙed 29 dny +64

    07:45 - 08:00 that was sweet, Frankie. Dood, that solo was fine - NOone would have known you were panicking inside.

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny +10

      Thank youuu somehow we were all on the same page🙈

    • @patrickrendslargent6044
      @patrickrendslargent6044 Pƙed 29 dny +7

      @@FoolishFrankie you can even see the reaction of your fellow musicians. You nailed it !

    • @mustafa1name
      @mustafa1name Pƙed 26 dny

      Although there WILL be people at weddings who just want a carbon copy of a solo, there are probably a few who really appreciate something more spicy, and if they could even tell it was a "recovery" they'd probably appreciate it even more. In a bland dish, a little spice has a big impact

    • @finxy3500
      @finxy3500 Pƙed 14 dny

      Not 11:28?

  • @dennykarl
    @dennykarl Pƙed 29 dny +37

    Great answers all around!! Wedding gigs are really the ideal working musician's gigs. Good pay, great hangs, minimal travel, in bed by midnight, lots of variety, and we even get to play jazz sometimes. Soul sucking for me is shutting down the bar at 2AM for a dozen people too drunk to stand playing the same 50 songs like it's Groundhog's Day. And Ross is right -- even that is a "me" problem! He would know haha!
    I'm gonna need the unredacted version of this video btw 😂😂

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny +3

      LOL man I agree!! Thanks so much for checking this out it means a lotđŸ™đŸ»đŸ™đŸ»

    • @trombonegamer14
      @trombonegamer14 Pƙed 9 dny +1

      They're okay. I rarely get to bed by midnight for wedding gigs though, and the pay is variable. Sometimes, it's great, sometimes it's underwhelming considering the time spent. But everyone's experience will vary

  • @ISuperTed
    @ISuperTed Pƙed 28 dny +15

    02:16 - every wedding gig I’ve ever done! Been doing them for over 30 years and there have been a few that grated, but I always play every gig as though it could be my last one and put 100% into it. If you do that, no matter what the circumstances, you know in your heart that you’re doing the thing you most love in the world.

  • @chrishenson4450
    @chrishenson4450 Pƙed 8 dny +4

    When I was roughly your age, I played a bunch of jazz wedding gigs. As a mediocre jazz guitarist, it's really good money. Our quartet could score $1,500 in 1994. And that was pretty sweet. All we had to know was "L.O.V.E." - which is the jazz "Wagon Wheel." But, then we played "Susan's" wedding reception at the lake. Everything was fine until the bridal entourage arrived.
    After a few minutes of playing "Old Devil Moon," Susan's mother came over to talk to me. "Yes, you guys sound GREAT! It's just a little bit loud and we're wondering if you could turn it down just a little." We weren't using a PA, but the bassist and I notched down our tiny amps and the trumpet player backed off a little and the drummer choked up on his sticks a tad. When we started "Everything Happens to Me" we were definitely quieter.
    Maybe ten minutes later Susan's mom came back to say, "Much better! But some of us are still having trouble talking over your music. If there's any way you can turn it down a little more, that would be lovely. Thank you!" So, we notched everything down, added a Harmon mute and brushes and started "You Make Me Feel So Young."
    After about two minutes, Susan's mom stomped over and, through gritted teeth, hissed, "I'm sorry. We can still HEAR you."
    So, we turned everything off and we helped ourselves to shrimp and beer. A little while later, the bride came over and said, "Mom wants to know why you stopped playing ... "

  • @user-vv7hb8ok2f
    @user-vv7hb8ok2f Pƙed 13 dny +5

    you're bringing joy to the entire room full of people, every time.

  • @matthewrayner3793
    @matthewrayner3793 Pƙed 27 dny +11

    My feeling is that it is always better to play to entertain than impress, no matter the occasion - it takes the pressure off. Yes, the audience can expect a certain level of musicianship, but the audience will mainly remember a good time/good feeling and not necessarily a blistering solo (but that doesn't mean you shouldn't!!). As you say, the way is to look for personal musical satisfaction/education within the confines of any event and, if you are as talented as you are, it will be recognised within the profession and the more 'musically satisfying' work will come.

  • @joebarkan
    @joebarkan Pƙed 8 dny +3

    I've played many weddings (and had all kinds of "experiences" like many mentioned in this comment section), but, the most important thing to consider when you're thinking about getting into the wedding band business is that there is a massive gulf between 'playing a wedding' and 'running a wedding band' i.e. being the person responsible/having your name on the contract. Playing weddings in someone else's band can be fun, and are almost stress-free. Running the band is ton of work, responsibility and stress. And that's why my own band stopped playing weddings. There's no "fun hang" when you're the guy who's responsible.

  • @UlmusMinor
    @UlmusMinor Pƙed 14 dny +6

    I love your man on the trombone’s attitude! I never have a bad time getting to play music, so grateful to be able to make money this way, and like he says, most of it is just sitting around hanging out with your mates, I think it’s important to have good people you get along with to play with, I’ve been pretty' blessed to play with a great crowd, but even that being said, my worst day getting paid to play music still beats a lot of the other shitty jobs I’ve had.

  • @pawsdude123
    @pawsdude123 Pƙed 29 dny +10

    You never get over the fear, you just get better at dealing with it. Thanks again for all your videos, you're an inspiration

  • @pianocat254
    @pianocat254 Pƙed 29 dny +20

    Great vid. Loved seeing the You Can Call Me Al tin whistle make an appearance again :)

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny +6

      Thank you!! We play it fairly often at weddings, I just figured it will become monotonous if I post it all the time;p

  • @erniebertuzzo8020
    @erniebertuzzo8020 Pƙed 29 dny +12

    Awesome video Frank!.!.As a musician (drummer) having played 1000's of wedding gigs, I always appreciated the opportunity to play with great musicians. AND always enjoyed it. NEVER soul sucking "Never blame the gig" ;) You play with some amazing talented musicians. Such a pleasure to listen to - You're an incredible player yourself. Keep these videos coming- Thank you!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny +2

      This comment means so much thank youđŸ™đŸ»đŸ™đŸ»

  • @jonathanabramo1485
    @jonathanabramo1485 Pƙed 29 dny +37

    Babe wake up! FoolishFrankie just dropped a new gig vlog!!!

  • @TheDanSebastian
    @TheDanSebastian Pƙed 26 dny +4

    Man... this hits hard. I have been struggling playing for people who don't care about the music and to be reminded that there really aren't soul sucking gigs if you manage to keep the right mindset is great. Keeping at it, keeping at it!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 26 dny +2

      Gotta bring the energy you want!đŸ™ŒđŸ»đŸ™đŸ»

  • @GabeShowNetwork
    @GabeShowNetwork Pƙed 29 dny +8

    As someone who is a musician but not in this style or anything, your improvised solo was great! it sounded like the song and it sounded good! The trumpet player instantly knew it wasn't right lol

  • @kboyer1011
    @kboyer1011 Pƙed 29 dny +36

    I also think if you're with musician friends you like playing with, that must help, eh?

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny +12

      Absolutely! Just like any job, if you hate your co-workers you will likely be unhappy

    • @Vivi-Mage
      @Vivi-Mage Pƙed 11 dny +1

      I think that if you’re playing with your buddies, if you’re good buds you’ll have a good time whatever you play

  • @lukeserrano62
    @lukeserrano62 Pƙed 14 dny +2

    Just said yes to another wedding gig 5 minutes before watching this video; and yes there’s always stuff to learn and things to do better, even in a ‘low pressure’ gig. It’s still someone’s big day, I try to remember that. Augment the joy.

  • @_israelferraro
    @_israelferraro Pƙed 28 dny +3

    Great video! You always have such great documentation and feedback for the musician life. Can't wait to see what future gigs you get involved with!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 28 dny

      Thank you this means so much đŸ„șđŸ™đŸ»

  • @Weirdkauz
    @Weirdkauz Pƙed 29 dny +13

    I'm with Frank and that gorgeous Mr. Trumbone: playing music together, wow!
    Be here and now, maybe you don't even have a soul, and then, all you got is every moment you take.

  • @jt3.
    @jt3. Pƙed 29 dny +9

    These are some great edits man. It really kept me engaged! Good stufff

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny

      I really appreciate that!đŸ™đŸ»đŸ™đŸ»

  • @Riddla26
    @Riddla26 Pƙed 27 dny +4

    Istg wedding gigs (vlogs at least) are worth it simply to hear you shred that tin whistle on Call Me Al! Legit perfect dude, like the whistling at the end of Sittin' On The Dock (Of The Bay), just iconic.

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 27 dny +1

      LOL well thank you so much I honestly love playing that whistle solo!

  • @bleu_capsicum
    @bleu_capsicum Pƙed 28 dny +1

    Always enjoy your vlogs very much! Thank you for making these videos.

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 27 dny

      Thank you for watching themđŸ„șđŸ™đŸ»

  • @wignersfriend2766
    @wignersfriend2766 Pƙed 9 dny +2

    The trombone player has the right attitude.

  • @lourayner6547
    @lourayner6547 Pƙed 26 dny +2

    I love this - being prepared to learn from every experience/gig cos we never stop learning as players do we and that's why I lurve playing - love the tin whistle and how you didn't look like you were 'panicked' about that alto solo.....

  • @chicohuff55
    @chicohuff55 Pƙed 21 dnem +2

    Thanks for this! I'm a bassist, been doing weddings for decades and definitely my share of soul sucking ones. Either client based suck-age or subbing with rough situations. A big factor is a chemistry with who you're doing them with as well as not trying to get through one with rather be somewhere else, feeling they're too good to be there, cell phone checking, counting down the minutes til the end of the gig types. One band I was lucky enough to gig with for around 9 years was one of the best bands I ever worked with, bar none. We found ways to make even the tunes we'd played 100s of times interesting, adding little on the fly arrangement stuff etc. As the bone player noted, it beats working all week at WaWa (regional reference) to make the same, if not less, bux! Thanks for letting me ramble! ps, dug the bassist, he was doing the same fills in Brick House that I do!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 21 dnem

      Yes that’s so true! I played one wedding in particular where it wasn’t just one person with a bad attitude, but nearly everyone in the band and it really made it a drag:/ thanks so much for sharing and I appreciate you watching!!

  • @josuastangl7140
    @josuastangl7140 Pƙed 6 dny +1

    That Dingwall bass is super sick and classy!
    I agree that wedding gigs are only soul sucking if you make them.
    You can always have some fun, if you're playing with the right people, even if some circumstances don't go your way.

  • @cmur2
    @cmur2 Pƙed 29 dny +3

    Awesome solo. Love watching you get more bold with your playing

  • @spivvo
    @spivvo Pƙed 13 dny +2

    I was getting nervous about a solo that was coming up at a wedding gig in about four bars time
.. then a pretty young lady projectile vomited across the dancefloor. Everything stopped as they sent for the mop and bucket and the paramedics dealt with her. We started up again but on the next song. Sometimes the Gods work in mysterious ways 😂
    Enjoyed your video
 props from the UK.

  • @amberwolfe9232
    @amberwolfe9232 Pƙed 23 dny

    I just love your videos. They speak so to me, even though I’m a vocalist I still just get such a huge kick out of every single one. THANK YOU

  • @sdmike1141
    @sdmike1141 Pƙed 26 dny +2

    You can tell a great video by the tone of the comments. The vibe here is NICE! Thanks for bringing us along!,

  • @reminaya
    @reminaya Pƙed 9 dny +1

    "Do you really want to huuuurrrt me...."
    Perfect wedding song.

  • @riflebone
    @riflebone Pƙed 7 dny +1

    I can appreciate wanting to play various tunes on one horn only. I always felt bad (well, not TOO bad 😂) for the woodwind guy lugging two saxes, a flute and a clarinet to a show, and I just have my bit of plumbing to worry about.

  • @cfrost5480
    @cfrost5480 Pƙed 29 dny +6

    Babe wake up, new FoolishFrankie vlog!!!

  • @captainreggae99
    @captainreggae99 Pƙed 7 dny +1

    Great video Frankie. To me, it looks like you found "the band" you were looking for- all of your colleagues are professional (from what you show us lol) and kind and talented. The musicians you work with can make or break the whole situation. I used to be the front-man for a Zappa tribute band (we even toured with Ike Willis) and the guy who led that band was so unbearable that we only did one tour before the drummer and I bowed out of the band. And I had wanted to do a Zappa tribute for years... I'm really happy to see you vibing with your group, and you all sound fantastic. That's the band I'd want at my wedding.

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 6 dny

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    • @brushstroke3733
      @brushstroke3733 Pƙed 5 dny

      Wait, how could you have been the front man but not the band leader? I thought Zappa was both in his bands.

    • @captainreggae99
      @captainreggae99 Pƙed 5 dny +1

      @@brushstroke3733 the guitarist was the one who formed the Zappa tribute band, years before I joined, and he had been touring occasionally with Ike Willis. Even though the guitarist formed the band, he did not do vocals. The guitarist brought on a band to fill in the gaps. I was brought on as vocals, keys, and sax/flute. When we didnt have Ike, I did all the singing and banter. When we did have Ike, I did the harmonies and just laid back on keys and horns. We did a two week tour with Ike one time, but before that we did a bunch of gigs and festivals without him. I'm a pretty versatile musician, and try to accommodate whats needed in the band at the time.

    • @brushstroke3733
      @brushstroke3733 Pƙed 4 dny

      @@captainreggae99 Awesome! Thanks for sharing! 👍

  • @HizonerTheMayor
    @HizonerTheMayor Pƙed 29 dny +2

    Frankie, I love seeing these glimpses into a working musician life so much like mine. Also that bass player is killing it đŸ‘ŒđŸ»

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny +1

      Ahh that’s awesome thanks for watching!! And I know right Anton is the man!!

  • @beastscooter
    @beastscooter Pƙed 29 dny +2

    Your penny whistle on Call Me Al is so perfect. I would be amazed if I were there in person and heard you do that. Very cool. Certain instruments can disappear in the mix. Not so easy to hide the horns. So I get it about being nervous, even at low pressure gigs. But fear not Frankie, you are hard working and dedicated to your craft. Besides you have almost a half a million subscribers who think you are the bomb!!! Rock on!!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny

      I really appreciate the kind wordsđŸ™đŸ»

  • @rpt0rman
    @rpt0rman Pƙed 29 dny

    Editing and storytelling keeps getting better dude. Great vid!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny

      Thank yoouuu I've really been trying to dial it in!! Much loveđŸ™đŸ»

  • @b516uck
    @b516uck Pƙed 29 dny +1

    Well done again as always!

  • @kaleem_k
    @kaleem_k Pƙed 28 dny

    Great video, it's fun to hear everyone's take on this!

  • @morpheus3190
    @morpheus3190 Pƙed 29 dny +3

    Great gig, looks like fun, you did great! Besides, you can do anything up there, everyone is drunk on the dance floor. lol.

  • @CaptainWizard3000
    @CaptainWizard3000 Pƙed 4 dny

    I agree with the brass players (and not just because I’m a brass player), but it is a mindset. Every gig can have value if you give it some.
    If you feel something is soul-sucking, it might just be that you are burned out. I can only imagine how exhausting it would be to document everything for an internet audience. I feel like that could steal the magic from the music.
    Also, I think the expectation that everyone in the audience wants each tune to be the same sounds from that one well-known version of the song, and so you MUST learn it just so, is an unhealthy expectation. It makes us stuck. It does make you a cardboard cutout, like they said in the vid. Making tunes your own, or at least in the moment, is very important. Both for the players and for society. The audience wants to have a good time, but also wants to be brought into the music. That might be by knowing the way you are playing the music, or it might be by getting instructions on how to interact with/clap/dance/move to the music.
    And being able to read a crowd is not easy. You have to balance knowing what to play next/being mentally prepared to perform the music in a meaningful way and being in the moment and responding to what music the audience is vibing to and/or requesting. I guess mentally taxing things can be “soul-sucking” if you are not feeling appreciated or if you get that trained monkey feeling, but you have to remind yourself that not everyone these days has the ability to fully appreciate things in the moment (especially when drunk). They may not realize how great you are, how hard you are working, how hard you have worked to make the music you are making. It’s so easy to find errors if you’re looking for them. And these days it seems like everyone’s looking for errors rather than enjoying the moments that are magical.
    Centering the crowd can help (breathing in good vibes and setting expectations), but you also have to remember that a wedding is not just about you and your performance. You are supporting the magical day of a couple, and you may not be rewarded ho you expect. It may be after the fact.
    Sorry this got long! Thanks for reading!

  • @handlewithoutsuitcase
    @handlewithoutsuitcase Pƙed 11 dny

    Spent decades in a band as a bass player and sound engineer - FOH and MOH for a couple of big bands. Now moved and quit but this brings so many feelings! Thanks man!

  • @mylescornish2373
    @mylescornish2373 Pƙed 25 dny

    I love the wedding gig vibes. Hanging out with good people, generally the atmosphere is super positive and charged with love. And yeah, like you said, you get to experiment in a low pressure environment which for me, means trying to make weirder / more complicated things like side stepping or cells vibe and workout in the upper register of my horn :) Plus, the dancing and grooving is typically on point haha

  • @lucasjedi2449
    @lucasjedi2449 Pƙed 17 dny +1

    Super well edited
    Congrats

  • @georgedodd7117
    @georgedodd7117 Pƙed 29 dny +3

    Can definitely relate to the altissimo in the practise room vs the gig. I always mentally tell myself to relax and I find that helps. Venues like the one you played at in the vlog, do you find they suffer "big room" syndrome, where people feel too exposed to dance? Maybe its just a UK thing lol

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny +1

      I’ll be honest I think it mostly has to do with how drunk the crowd gets more than anything😂

    • @georgedodd7117
      @georgedodd7117 Pƙed 29 dny

      @@FoolishFrankie I think you might be on to something there 😂

  • @YatesViolin
    @YatesViolin Pƙed 13 dny

    Love this. Definitely can be soul sucking but can also be really fun musical experiences. Its fun getting “hypermusical” with the easy wedding standards and requests while making good money.
    What feels most soul sucking to me are the occasions where my fellow musicians cant play with energy or dont know how to be musical in the moment.

  • @senfilatechnologies2938
    @senfilatechnologies2938 Pƙed 27 dny

    as I continue to watch your videos, I have noticed your playing has definitely improved (take it from a fellow sax player), keep it up, you are doing great .. you can only get better and better! All the best to you.

  • @tyyoung4887
    @tyyoung4887 Pƙed 25 dny

    I live for these vlogs

  • @alysha2162
    @alysha2162 Pƙed 22 dny

    I have only been to one wedding in my life where there was a band for the reception (and it was my own) I had SO MANY people tell me how much they enjoyed the band at our wedding, and I was so happy people enjoyed it as much as we did (I loved the band we hired they were amazing), I recommended them to a friend who is hiring them for her wedding next year, and I’m so excited to attend as a guest!!! I’m someone who loves music and it resonates with me deeply and personally, but that’s not the same experience for everyone. Not everyone who is enjoying will always LOOK like they’re enjoying the music, but that doesn’t mean they’re not appreciating it in their own way. Hopefully that’s an encouragement.

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 22 dny +1

      Ahh that’s awesome!! Definitely, I actually just played a wedding where we couldn’t tell if the bride and groom were enjoying us but after they came up and said how much they loved it and appreciated us which was so sweet! Thanks for watching đŸ™đŸ»

  • @drjazz7278
    @drjazz7278 Pƙed 9 dny

    Band sounds great. Used to dabble in playing sax. You've got a great mix of talent and humility

  • @paddylandreville8501
    @paddylandreville8501 Pƙed 29 dny

    I hear you bro, but you are already an amazing musician. Thanks for posting.

  • @MarioSilva-jg5nh
    @MarioSilva-jg5nh Pƙed 9 dny +2

    What’s soul sucking is when musicians don’t show up prepared or sub out last minute.

  • @Boxcc.
    @Boxcc. Pƙed 29 dny +1

    I guess that in a way Frank is right, there is no soul sucking gigs. Now thinking about it, when I had less experience I often got bored with a lot of gigs. As I progressed in my journey, I started having more fun with the amount of details I could add to the music. Now the only times I get slightly unintrested is when I get a request to play really easy songs. It's all mental, and as some of my buddies would say "Be happy, you're playing music!"
    That solo 11:28 was SOUL coming out of your sax!

  • @scottjacko87
    @scottjacko87 Pƙed 27 dny

    I've gotta get back into gigging. I miss it so much but I'm so nervous to do it because I hate the feeling of 'being judged' but I need to just not care what others tink, go out, and have fun!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 27 dny

      I totally get that. Start by going to some jam sessions to build your confidence back up!!

  • @highlonesome-coloradobluegrass

    We absolutely love playing weddings!

  • @tommcmichael8679
    @tommcmichael8679 Pƙed 29 dny

    Nerves are important. I spent many minutes in the bathroom because of nerves. I can tell you with confidence, it will pass! One day you won’t even realize you don’t have the nervousness. Just stay at it because you know that what you do is the right thing. Good work!

  • @webstercat
    @webstercat Pƙed 10 dny +1

    Be grateful you have work. With friends, not outside, probably paid well. Make the most of it.

  • @theflyingfrog
    @theflyingfrog Pƙed 12 hodinami

    It was the endless hanging around that drove me crazy doing wedding gigs. The iPhone Scrabble app was a regular occupation... However much you love the other band members you eventually run out of stuff to talk about!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 5 hodinami +1

      That's why I brought my laptop to get work done! I also usually bring my tin whistle in D and will learn tunes. I try to take advantage of the down time as much as I can:)

  • @james_g_walt
    @james_g_walt Pƙed 16 dny

    Looks fun to me!

  • @mathewferraro5407
    @mathewferraro5407 Pƙed 29 dny +2

    Yes, wedding gigs CAN be soul-sucking. Any gig can be. Use the Big 3 to gauge whether it was worth it.
    1. Did you make good money?
    2. Was it a good band that played music you enjoy playing?
    3. Did you like the cats in the band?
    Any one of these 3 can make a gig worthwhile and when you combine them it's very fulfilling. If none are present then your soul has just been sucked from your body.

  • @BlogColombianfan
    @BlogColombianfan Pƙed 29 dny

    This might be a foolish question... But what camera do you use to record the gig? Im just curious. Amazing job!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny

      Linked in description!! Thanks so much đŸ™đŸ»

  • @jbreezy101
    @jbreezy101 Pƙed 29 dny +4

    0:09 hey it’s the tin whistle girl!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny +1

      Oh no😂

    • @jbreezy101
      @jbreezy101 Pƙed 24 dny

      @@FoolishFrankie hahaha. Recognized her. Too bad you can’t tell us who she is.

  • @patrickcrombmusic
    @patrickcrombmusic Pƙed 10 dny

    very interesting perspectives !

  • @crimskeyofficial8474
    @crimskeyofficial8474 Pƙed 23 dny +1

    I would love any giglol

  • @brendanpolk6038
    @brendanpolk6038 Pƙed 15 dny

    Hard to believe someone felt they’ve never played a soul sucking gig. Well good for him!
    I play wedding band gigs sometimes but generally don’t like them. I find that one a month or two is ok for me but I don’t think I could do them every weekend. Doing them in nyc also makes me nervous because traffic is so crazy. You seem like you’re in the trenches dude, good work!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 14 dny

      He’s a very positive and zen guy! Thanks for watching đŸ™đŸ»

  • @itsleeivy
    @itsleeivy Pƙed 26 dny +1

    yesss frankie vid

  • @Fr0st_Tea
    @Fr0st_Tea Pƙed 21 dnem +1

    The quarter note trombone solo went way hard

  • @bluessax5089
    @bluessax5089 Pƙed 29 dny +10

    Best remedy for Soul Sucking gigs? Use The Blues. Albert King, Stevie Ray Vaughan, ect.

    • @coin777
      @coin777 Pƙed 29 dny +3

      Works great on a classical gig

    • @brushstroke3733
      @brushstroke3733 Pƙed 5 dny

      Yeah, lot's of people can fill Stevie Ray's shoes!

    • @bluessax5089
      @bluessax5089 Pƙed 5 dny +1

      @@brushstroke3733 the exact same thing can be said about Charlie Parker, David Sanborn, ect. Would you agree that one can benefit from studying their music??

    • @bluessax5089
      @bluessax5089 Pƙed 5 dny

      @@coin777 what are you talking about? He’s talking about wedding/corporate gigs

    • @coin777
      @coin777 Pƙed 5 dny +1

      @@bluessax5089 and you are talking about soul sucking gigs

  • @musicalmotors
    @musicalmotors Pƙed 7 dny +1

    I agree with many of the comments saying any gig is fun, has its place, and can be fully enjoyed. I’m curious how fellow musicians feel when they might play the occasional gig with a band or a jam where you play with someone who doesn’t know their instrument or the songs well and end up dominating without realizing they are killing the vibe. I can’t let that go on sometimes. Maybe a different conversation.

  • @ThomasHutchingsMusic
    @ThomasHutchingsMusic Pƙed 23 dny

    "You can't blame the gig for how you feel about yourself", but it happens to me all the time! LOL! The hang matters!

  • @bac0ntoast
    @bac0ntoast Pƙed 25 dny

    Your videos are so inspiring to me as a beginner saxophonist! Ever played misty or autumn leaves on video :o ? I'd love to see!

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 25 dny +1

      Thank you!! And hmm I probably have somewhere but I’m not sure where😰

    • @bac0ntoast
      @bac0ntoast Pƙed 25 dny

      @@FoolishFrankie if u ever start uploading jazz standard covers or smn lol thats my suggestion đŸ”„

  • @masonthomassax
    @masonthomassax Pƙed 11 dny

    Playing with a wedding band is currently my full-time job, and I don't find it to be soul-sucking at all. All of the musicians are extremely talented and we have some killer arrangements. It's honestly a blast.

  • @thyslop1737
    @thyslop1737 Pƙed 6 hodinami

    You guys sound great.

  • @tomegan8885
    @tomegan8885 Pƙed 22 dny

    The tin whistle made my day

  • @DerekHartley
    @DerekHartley Pƙed 22 dny

    8:33 There it is! As soon as I saw the penny whistle, I knew this was coming! This is becoming a signature of yours, no?

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 22 dny +1

      LOL well any time You Can Call Me Al is on the set list I make sure to bring it!

  • @killertaco8239
    @killertaco8239 Pƙed 29 dny

    looks like a good time

  • @marchanjr
    @marchanjr Pƙed 10 dny

    How do you find the sheet music weddings gigs for songs such as sweet caroline?

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 10 dny

      The band I play with provides us with most charts, and then I usually write out songs I don’t have

    • @marchanjr
      @marchanjr Pƙed 9 dny

      @@FoolishFrankie thanks so much! I actually auditioned for a Band and got it but they don’t provide charts unfortunately. Any suggestions? Or could you even provide some arrangements? Thanks for the reply 🙏

  • @GabeShowNetwork
    @GabeShowNetwork Pƙed 29 dny

    Love these videos tho, at one point in my life i wanted to be a professional musician ( played the clarinet) as a job, and it's really cool seeing what could have been ya know?

  • @ricktangora4131
    @ricktangora4131 Pƙed 7 dny

    I’ve played about 2,000 wedding and corporate gigs. Some were more fun than others, but I always played as we as I can. How many times do you go to work, have dinner, and come home with a stack of dough?

  • @StormOnMars
    @StormOnMars Pƙed 29 dny +3

    Great Video! also one question is why are low notes on alto so hard 😭

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny +1

      Thank you! And they shouldn't be unless your horn is leaking!

    • @StormOnMars
      @StormOnMars Pƙed 29 dny +1

      @@FoolishFrankie apparently its a embouchure thing so ima have to say bye to bottom lip on teeth ig

    • @user-qf4ye3oj5w
      @user-qf4ye3oj5w Pƙed 29 dny +1

      It was always hard for me till I started playing Bari, going back to alto every single note was easy

  • @mrsherwood2599
    @mrsherwood2599 Pƙed 7 dny

    Some bride's momzilla wanted "God Only Knows" but we had to change "I may not always love you" to "I know I'll always love you" 😅😅😅😅
    That was towards the end of my wedding career. It was death by a million cuts for me.
    It took years and years, i always had a good attitude.

  • @polishedpebble4111
    @polishedpebble4111 Pƙed 29 dny +1

    If the band is static, you might as well have an ipod. But bands are great because you can see them groove and have a good time.

  • @Makingdifference100
    @Makingdifference100 Pƙed 5 dny

    Can you tell me the name of instrument you play with the blue tips. I like it. Can you tell me the maker and model please?

  • @ivanheld4546
    @ivanheld4546 Pƙed 29 dny

    Unrelated, but can you do a full version of Studiopolis Zone Act 1 please??

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie  Pƙed 29 dny

      LOL maybe I'll try to write an arrangement for my video game music band!

    • @ivanheld4546
      @ivanheld4546 Pƙed 29 dny

      @@FoolishFrankie Thank you

  • @Johnny-re9kg
    @Johnny-re9kg Pƙed 7 dny

    Great video.

  • @kintorey1195
    @kintorey1195 Pƙed 29 dny +2

    Good job Frankie ^_^

  • @vineyardworker
    @vineyardworker Pƙed 9 dny

    I loved playing weddings, easy pace, daytime/early hours, and food-but we were a third rate/cut rate band, only got hired for poor people’s weddings, and the clients were always happy they had a band at all. I always had fun but of course it wasn’t my career. Wish we had horns, I played those parts on my Juno.

  • @OniSamaGin
    @OniSamaGin Pƙed 29 dny

    I think it makes a difference if you are front and center of peoples view vs. background person. How people that view you might change your perspective. If you like the attention and that is your focus that might hurt to have a slow or low day. In the background just there for the chill hang out you it might not hurt so much.

  • @user-fv5yo5fi5c
    @user-fv5yo5fi5c Pƙed 3 hodinami

    Frankie, it really gets me frustrated when we go to see a local band and the people at the venue, whatever it is are so self involved they mostly disregard the band. I think this kind of gig is good for any up and comer in the business. It's a character builder. You learn to just become one with your band mates and do your thing. When that happens you're on your game. That only makes all of you better for the next gig. That's my opinion. 50 year Blues Player here. I love the music and playing way more than anything else.

  • @xFliox
    @xFliox Pƙed 27 dny +1

    Boneman got some solid points

  • @linnightl9277
    @linnightl9277 Pƙed 13 dny

    Had 25 years of working hotel bands as a living then started to reach an age where it was heading toward reception/corporate gigs - money was good but damn I hated those gigs.