He's just pulling y'all's leg. Rip is vegan. I saw him leaving yoga class the other day. He was wearing yoga pants and no shoes and he threw his yoga mat in the back of his Kia Soul. He saw me and said "Hey, James! I'm going to head over and get a vegan scramble after I finish this detox tea; care to join?" I declined because I was busy. In parting, he gave me a hug and said "Namaste."
"We were talking about cannibalism the other day." Not wasting any time getting started I see. Seriously, though, this reminds me of something Dan John wrote about dieting with his clients: start with good food. Every day, eat 1 pound of lean meat/fish, 1 cup of oats, 2 pieces of fruit, 3 cups of vegetables, and a potato, and drink a quart of milk and half a gallon of water. If you are still hungry after all that, you can have a piece of cake for dessert.
I know he's not much of a talker, but Robert is by far the best nutritionist you've had. He's very grounded and right on the money with what he says, without making things too complicated. Nutrition isn't rocket science. It isn't even an exact science at all. This is why Robert keeps giving us something general, to then tweak as an individual. He knows what he's doing.
@@OMAR-vk9pi If by "everyone" you mean what you're seeing on CZcams usually in videos with Mark, yea there are a few. But diet and abs aren't their priority. If it's your priority there is no reason you can't strength train and still have lower bodyfat.
For any of those that are trying to apply what was said to a Keto diet. The mantra goes: Protein is goal Carbs are a limit Fat is a lever The only difference between what Robert is going for and a keto version is how high is the limit on carbs. After 2 years of Keto for me and going (for blood sugar control), I think that Robert's version is likely the more successful approach. Don't get fooled on the hype of Keto, it has its applicability to some circumstances. But I have seen way too many people who can't sustain it. And as we all know: "Compliance is the science." - Stan Efferding
Agreed. As a diabetic I have to choose between carb restriction or massive doses of exogenous insulin (which makes fat loss very difficult and tends to cause fat gain). Fortunately, I can confirm that I have plenty of energy to workout (and frankly my lifts are probably much better than those who disagree with me).
17:40 you are getting very close to describing the Paradox of Choice. Not only do people screw up when they have excessive choices/variety, they are less happy. More than about 3 or 4 options makes it too hard for most people to make a choice they are happy with.
On a related note regarding B12, for anyone using a PPI (I used to take Pantoprazole, which stops stomach acid from being produced) they should be taking a B12 supplement, because it is the stomach acid that gets the B12 from food, and you're likely to be B12 deficient if you don't take a supplement while on a PPI, or while taking any drug that even reduces stomach acid.. I mention it because I had been taking a PPI prescription for years before I read about how B12 should be supplemented - my doctor never mentioned it, and I just happened upon an article - which I then mentioned to my doctor (not the one who had prescribed the PPI, but anyway), and she concurred that a B12 supplement was in order...
You have likely seen it, but Vegan Gains tries to rip on Rip because of it. He doesn't seem to recognize it's tongue and cheek. czcams.com/video/Ieu1mXDV0Q8/video.html
Protein from meat gets digested in the stomach, humans don't have the enzymes in the stomach to digest plants meaning the digestion of plants doesn't begin till the plants reach the intestines, at this point you can only pull a fraction of the nutrients from the plants... the nutrients may be in the plant but they're not bio-available to humans.
Bodybuilding has caused a shitty state of body dysmorphia among young men. It's spread over to the United Kingdom as well, drives me mental. I'm not single digit lean, fuck you can't see my six pack and I could give a toss. I'm strong, I'm extremely fit and well conditioned ( have to be to play flanker in rugby as I do; they don't call us the 'everywhere men' for nothing), I don't have a big old round belly i.e I'm not fat, but neither am I shredded. I agree with Rip and Robert, it's just not good to obsess over this or worry your skirt might fit a bit tighter 😂👌🏻
Hi Rip, I heard you mention "pee protein". I know you have a high protein diet, have you thought of selling your pee? I am a vegan but I'm considering drinking animal based urine to supplement my protein intake. Thanks!
Doc Santana I am the beginner with CRPS, I did email you and would enjoy your input on protein sources that are viable. In other words, your list. I have already cut gluten and most starch from my diet as part of my disease protocol. I eat mostly protein and veg, but have trouble getting all of it in through eating as I have restricted my eating eating to drop my weight from 230 at 5’11”
The hands guide didn't seem very applicable to me since I have neither baby hands or crab claws. 8oz, 3 times a day seemed easier as that's easy to quantify as 3 8oz steaks.
If I had been born anytime previous to last century, i couln't be eating more than i,m satisfied with. So, to me, natural body composition means, either being not alive or very underweight for modern standars. I'm in my mid thirties and i'm going to try again, but i can only try because we live in such strange era, when we have such amounts available to us.
People were healthier when they ate naturally. Not rocket science. Supplements are popular because they have good advertising skills. Eat proper food! It is what we are designed for.
I ALWAYS tell people to count calories, sure they can ignore the macros but count them they must, otherwise good luck doing a very mild cut that I ask for.
I have a friend that’s vegan that meticulously plans his meals to make sure he’s getting all the nutrients but is just so much work to not eat delicious steak.
Rip , in regards to the vanity lifting and diets, the most disturbing thing I hate to see, are the blown up, tire tube lips, or Puffer fish lips. Looks absolutely hideous. People, leave your bodies alone. Appreciate what GD gave you, and keep it healthy... Shop the perimeter of the grocery store. Yes perimeter!!
Hard to train without carbs 😳?? No its not. Always train fasted without any, I mean any, problems. Weight still steady even Im 58 y o. So on that point I disagree 100 %. /Lars in Sweden
Diet implies that there is a beginning, i.e., “Going on a diet”. Therefore there will likely be an end. It takes a sustainable nutritional and lifestyle change.
I love the work you both put in but fuck vegetables. Edit: Fuck Grains too Edit 2: Fuck the food pyramid... Edit 3: Fuck Fiber... All you need is Beef Eggs Milk Butter Salt and Pepper Anything else is a distraction
Mark Rippetoe mentioned a gallon of milk in the episode. I think drinking a gallon of water is better than drinking a gallon of milk. While people tend to focus a lot on nutrition when it comes to strength and performance, people tend to overlook hydration and how dehydration can hinder performance. People can drink mineral water or coconut water for electrolytes.
Sure Rip, sure Santana.... but does Joe Rogan agree with you on all of this?? ----->LOL Maybe Joe Rogan will want you to debate a vegan for three hours!! ---->LOL If you dot get his approval our fucked. Seriously Rip, you're the most RIGHTFULLY stubborn SOB I know of in THIS field, most others would have folded a long time ago just to be with the majority. Keep it up. Keep moving forward and damn the torpedoes.
Since vegetables and fruits have a lot of fiber and water and contribute to the feeling of satiety, it may not be possible to eat large quantities of them by chewing along. Blending fruits and vegetables into a smoothie or putting them through a juicer will allow a person to consume them much quicker. I think drinking fruit and/or vegetable smoothies would be a better alternative to drinking 6 protein shakes a day.
Hmmm... So, you say that the problem with getting rid of the Electoral College is that the big cities like NYC, LA and San Fransico will pick our president. That to me sounds like bogus logic that gives priority to calf raises, tricep pushdowns and forearm curls rather doing squats, deadlifts and presses.
I prefer my whey isolate to meat. It takes a long time to digest a pound of beef compared to a great quality whey protein. Add some oats, banana, frozen fruit, natural PB, spinach - bam. Complete meal. I make two of these a day, plus a couple whole food meals. Also, I NEVER eat beef that isn't minced. Keep in mind it's not about eating "protein". It's about eating and absorbing protein. All those "strength bellies" we see in the strength community is nothing more than undigested food in the bowels. I used to have a HUGE, distended belly full of SHIT (Yes, that's what it is). You guys eat too much too. I think far too many strength athletes are closet emotional eaters. Why train so hard, but eat like a fat slob? It makes no sense. Look at strength athletes like Jouko Ahola. To me - that is an ideal athlete
He's just pulling y'all's leg. Rip is vegan. I saw him leaving yoga class the other day. He was wearing yoga pants and no shoes and he threw his yoga mat in the back of his Kia Soul. He saw me and said "Hey, James! I'm going to head over and get a vegan scramble after I finish this detox tea; care to join?" I declined because I was busy. In parting, he gave me a hug and said "Namaste."
Namaste be with you.
You max'ed out my sarcasm meter!
You’re full of shit. Anyone who does yoga with Rip knows that he always wears the socks with individual toes.
I seen him lifting in crocks
So basically, Start with one glass of milk a day and increase by an ounce every day until you can do a whole gallon. Got it!
Guys, finally we find out who’s actually been paid off by the dairy industry.
@@kylewood303 big scary dairy
Linear progression
More with Santana! The two of you together are something special!
"We were talking about cannibalism the other day." Not wasting any time getting started I see.
Seriously, though, this reminds me of something Dan John wrote about dieting with his clients: start with good food. Every day, eat 1 pound of lean meat/fish, 1 cup of oats, 2 pieces of fruit, 3 cups of vegetables, and a potato, and drink a quart of milk and half a gallon of water. If you are still hungry after all that, you can have a piece of cake for dessert.
Can we get a Rippetoe cooking show? Just one recipe Rip, please
m v There’s one already on the channel
He just uploaded an episode on grog - basically a cocktail
Your wishes have materialized ;)
I know he's not much of a talker, but Robert is by far the best nutritionist you've had. He's very grounded and right on the money with what he says, without making things too complicated.
Nutrition isn't rocket science. It isn't even an exact science at all. This is why Robert keeps giving us something general, to then tweak as an individual. He knows what he's doing.
Exactly just get fat!!
@@OMAR-vk9pi Why would you say that? Robert isn't fat. You should take his advice.
@@HAL-dm1eh almost everyone involved in SS is
@@OMAR-vk9pi If by "everyone" you mean what you're seeing on CZcams usually in videos with Mark, yea there are a few. But diet and abs aren't their priority. If it's your priority there is no reason you can't strength train and still have lower bodyfat.
@@HAL-dm1eh health isn’t their priority either most of them are legit obese
For any of those that are trying to apply what was said to a Keto diet. The mantra goes:
Protein is goal
Carbs are a limit
Fat is a lever
The only difference between what Robert is going for and a keto version is how high is the limit on carbs. After 2 years of Keto for me and going (for blood sugar control), I think that Robert's version is likely the more successful approach. Don't get fooled on the hype of Keto, it has its applicability to some circumstances. But I have seen way too many people who can't sustain it. And as we all know:
"Compliance is the science." - Stan Efferding
Agreed. As a diabetic I have to choose between carb restriction or massive doses of exogenous insulin (which makes fat loss very difficult and tends to cause fat gain). Fortunately, I can confirm that I have plenty of energy to workout (and frankly my lifts are probably much better than those who disagree with me).
Rip, you helped change my life. Thank you
Their discussion on using body parts to approximate portion sizes is precisely where the imperial system comes from.
The line about cannibalism is why I love Rip. BTW, if we were meant to be vegans, we'd have eyes on the sides of our heads.
4% Large Curd Cottage cheese, Olive Oil, Basil, and Diced tomatoes with salt and pepper. Perfect bedtime snack and breakfast
17:40 you are getting very close to describing the Paradox of Choice. Not only do people screw up when they have excessive choices/variety, they are less happy. More than about 3 or 4 options makes it too hard for most people to make a choice they are happy with.
On a related note regarding B12, for anyone using a PPI (I used to take Pantoprazole, which stops stomach acid from being produced) they should be taking a B12 supplement, because it is the stomach acid that gets the B12 from food, and you're likely to be B12 deficient if you don't take a supplement while on a PPI, or while taking any drug that even reduces stomach acid.. I mention it because I had been taking a PPI prescription for years before I read about how B12 should be supplemented - my doctor never mentioned it, and I just happened upon an article - which I then mentioned to my doctor (not the one who had prescribed the PPI, but anyway), and she concurred that a B12 supplement was in order...
Damn Rip that was one hell of an intro question
5:05 He has a point.
@@MakeTaxationTheftAgain yeah, that's totally relevant.
The way they pronounce it as "vejan" sounds so natural now.
You have likely seen it, but Vegan Gains tries to rip on Rip because of it. He doesn't seem to recognize it's tongue and cheek.
czcams.com/video/Ieu1mXDV0Q8/video.html
@@fracice36 vejans have no sense of humor.
Vegean would be the spelling
Diversity is not a strength; especially not in diet/nutrition.
Diversity is our strength and israel is our greatest ally, you bigot. Now eat your bugs.
Protein from meat gets digested in the stomach, humans don't have the enzymes in the stomach to digest plants meaning the digestion of plants doesn't begin till the plants reach the intestines, at this point you can only pull a fraction of the nutrients from the plants... the nutrients may be in the plant but they're not bio-available to humans.
That's why vegans should eat their own shit.
wreagfe lmaooooooo
Plus the earth is flat
@@yozzcta why not have an argument? research to topic and bring something factual that refutes my point.
Rip and the electorial college was gold
The way Robert says protein makes it sound meatier somehow.
Is Rip dealing with some nuerological issues? Seems like a lot of involuntary muscle movement in his hands.
BRCC best coffee hands down.
This was both very educational and entertaining. Thank you both!
1 fist 3 times a day! My wife is gonna be pissed!
Bodybuilding has caused a shitty state of body dysmorphia among young men. It's spread over to the United Kingdom as well, drives me mental.
I'm not single digit lean, fuck you can't see my six pack and I could give a toss. I'm strong, I'm extremely fit and well conditioned ( have to be to play flanker in rugby as I do; they don't call us the 'everywhere men' for nothing), I don't have a big old round belly i.e I'm not fat, but neither am I shredded.
I agree with Rip and Robert, it's just not good to obsess over this or worry your skirt might fit a bit tighter 😂👌🏻
Your podcast is really, one of the best podcast things ever!! Keep up the great info.
Hwhey protein isolate!
Hi Rip, I heard you mention "pee protein". I know you have a high protein diet, have you thought of selling your pee? I am a vegan but I'm considering drinking animal based urine to supplement my protein intake. Thanks!
lol great episode. I think Robert is my favorite guest
Durianrider sent me here
From which video?
@@israeladesanya262 The anal beads video?
Love this guy right out of the block.
Thank you! This is so helpful.
Breakstones' cottage cheese is the food of the Gods!
Precision nutrition headed by John Berardi PHD also work off this framework of habits and handsized portions.
Just ordered dominos
I love your political input Rip because I agree totally.
for every 35 g of a meat origin its around 7 grams of protein.
Rip should make some podcasts, he could ask the best questions. He should start with Lyle McDonald.
They are called “SUPPLEMENTS” for a reason. They are not meant to be a primary source.
1h9m55s - "Can I even finish a sentence? You're not listening." - Most patient man on earth. SHUT THE FUCK UP RIP!
Great Episode👍!!
Doc Santana I am the beginner with CRPS, I did email you and would enjoy your input on protein sources that are viable. In other words, your list. I have already cut gluten and most starch from my diet as part of my disease protocol. I eat mostly protein and veg, but have trouble getting all of it in through eating as I have restricted my eating eating to drop my weight from 230 at 5’11”
As a classically trained Chef, I'm offended by your over simplification of French cuisine.
L. O. L. 🤣😂🤣😂
Everyone loves being offended and getting their little feelings hurt.
Cry me a river frenchie, go eat a croissant or something
Super helpful. Really needed this
Wow Rip has been taking French cooking classes. Soon he’ll trade in his whiskey for fine French ‘whine’.
Hi Dad
I was told by a diabetes educator that beans, meat and peanut butter were all the same when counting carbs. I was to consider them all meats.
Carbs in meat? Nah bro.
The hands guide didn't seem very applicable to me since I have neither baby hands or crab claws.
8oz, 3 times a day seemed easier as that's easy to quantify as 3 8oz steaks.
Mark, I don't have a rumen anymore. I stopped chewing the cud years ago. What's a veg-in to do? Veg-in......., sounds like a commun buffet 🥬🐄🐠🥛🍻
Is there/ will there be a Santana article on this?
“Starting Plates” - New book
would appreciate the option to scan a 5 minute article
This was helpful.
Good one lads
If I had been born anytime previous to last century, i couln't be eating more than i,m satisfied with. So, to me, natural body composition means, either being not alive or very underweight for modern standars. I'm in my mid thirties and i'm going to try again, but i can only try because we live in such strange era, when we have such amounts available to us.
0:08 as a homeless I protest!
Great Video
Good Information
So much truth
Rip didn't get fed enough as a kid. That's why he only grew to FAHVE foot FAHVE!
People were healthier when they ate naturally. Not rocket science. Supplements are popular because they have good advertising skills. Eat proper food! It is what we are designed for.
Coach if I eat a homeless person a day do I have to keep doing my GOMAD?
DTFP. The homeless person is supplemental.
Depends if the homeless person was a drug abuser. That’d be like ingesting milk from cows on Steroids
@@the_robert_santana 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Robert Santana What if they injected 1gram of testo before I ate them? Can I stop pinning my pink buttocks?
Could there be another book in a the Starting Strength future?
50% protein
50% the rest
This is great! Keep the mexican guy coming
That duck sandwich sounds tasty but complicated hahahaha...funny shit.
Whey protein has vitamin B12 in it.
Can u do timeslines on long videos
What's a timesline?
What do I have to do to get a Barbell Coach Shirt?
Probably take the training and BECOME a barbell coach. Just . . . throwin' it out there.
I ALWAYS tell people to count calories, sure they can ignore the macros but count them they must, otherwise good luck doing a very mild cut that I ask for.
I have a friend that’s vegan that meticulously plans his meals to make sure he’s getting all the nutrients but is just so much work to not eat delicious steak.
Can anyone out there tell me if GNC is legit in terms of it's products for bodywork?
Their products are over priced and average quality at best
@@international_educator Thank You
Could I get a Mark cooking channel?
Dood looks like a younger version of Ron Jeremy.
Rip , in regards to the vanity lifting and diets, the most disturbing thing I hate to see, are the blown up, tire tube lips, or Puffer fish lips. Looks absolutely hideous. People, leave your bodies alone. Appreciate what GD gave you, and keep it healthy... Shop the perimeter of the grocery store. Yes perimeter!!
Who's GD?
@@dereksmallsuk GD the Father , Creator of Heaven and Earth. GD of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The one and only True GD of Heaven and Earth!
Aloysius Devadander Abercrombie, that's long for Spoon
Hard to train without carbs 😳?? No its not. Always train fasted without any, I mean any, problems. Weight still steady even Im 58 y o. So on that point I disagree 100 %.
/Lars in Sweden
Diet implies that there is a beginning,
i.e., “Going on a diet”. Therefore there will likely be an end. It takes a sustainable nutritional and lifestyle change.
LOL. That first hater is clueless.
I love the work you both put in but fuck vegetables.
Edit: Fuck Grains too
Edit 2: Fuck the food pyramid...
Edit 3: Fuck Fiber...
All you need is
Beef
Eggs
Milk
Butter
Salt and Pepper
Anything else is a distraction
Vedge Ends
Leggo
Mark Rippetoe mentioned a gallon of milk in the episode. I think drinking a gallon of water is better than drinking a gallon of milk. While people tend to focus a lot on nutrition when it comes to strength and performance, people tend to overlook hydration and how dehydration can hinder performance. People can drink mineral water or coconut water for electrolytes.
Fat is not satiating??? What?
Sure Rip, sure Santana.... but does Joe Rogan agree with you on all of this?? ----->LOL
Maybe Joe Rogan will want you to debate a vegan for three hours!! ---->LOL
If you dot get his approval our fucked.
Seriously Rip, you're the most RIGHTFULLY stubborn SOB I know of in THIS field, most others would have folded a long time ago just to be with the majority. Keep it up.
Keep moving forward and damn the torpedoes.
Rip is so politically incorrect. Just like me ;)
Was expecting something more indepth
The majority should elect the president. So, yes, abolish the electoral college.
Captain Quiet Riot
Most homeless are squatters
Rip should just fire this Ornish diet apologist.
1 fist, three time a day..... hmmmm.
Since vegetables and fruits have a lot of fiber and water and contribute to the feeling of satiety, it may not be possible to eat large quantities of them by chewing along. Blending fruits and vegetables into a smoothie or putting them through a juicer will allow a person to consume them much quicker. I think drinking fruit and/or vegetable smoothies would be a better alternative to drinking 6 protein shakes a day.
Vegan lol
Hmmm... So, you say that the problem with getting rid of the Electoral College is that the big cities like NYC, LA and San Fransico will pick our president. That to me sounds like bogus logic that gives priority to calf raises, tricep pushdowns and forearm curls rather doing squats, deadlifts and presses.
🤣
More sense in this video than most bullshit so called "personal trainers"
haha a vagen diet hahaha
I prefer my whey isolate to meat. It takes a long time to digest a pound of beef compared to a great quality whey protein. Add some oats, banana, frozen fruit, natural PB, spinach - bam. Complete meal. I make two of these a day, plus a couple whole food meals. Also, I NEVER eat beef that isn't minced. Keep in mind it's not about eating "protein". It's about eating and absorbing protein. All those "strength bellies" we see in the strength community is nothing more than undigested food in the bowels. I used to have a HUGE, distended belly full of SHIT (Yes, that's what it is). You guys eat too much too. I think far too many strength athletes are closet emotional eaters. Why train so hard, but eat like a fat slob? It makes no sense. Look at strength athletes like Jouko Ahola. To me - that is an ideal athlete
Get rid of the electoral college and this country breaks up.
Hi Dad