FABRICATE and RECONSTRUCT CLUTCH Z BAR (F100 part 74)
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- čas přidán 5. 12. 2021
- F100 FORD TRUCK PROJECT (part 74)
Today we Fabricate and Reconstruct a hacked up clutch Z Bar Assembly
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You did some good engineering there, RK. You’ve got to be willing and able, to change plans while these projects evolve. Very nice work.👍
Thanks alot Tony!! You always need three or four backup plans when you work on the old stuff!!☺
Wow! That clutch bar was a mess! Your resourcefulness is inspiring!
Thanks alot Buddy!! Also thanks for the Christmas Card, we received it a few days ago!!☺
Excellent job! You are so right sometimes you have to stop yourself from overthinking a problem. Great job!
Thanks alot Buddy!! Yeah most of the time when you overthink something you always wind up using your original idea anyway!!☺
My Bel Air has a felt washer at each end of the clutch bell crank to keep the dirt out and the grease in. The truck is looking really good!
Thanks alot Howard!! Thanks for the info, The exploded view of my setup in the manual shows WASHERS. I'm like WTF do you need washers for, they failed to mention they are felt!!☺
Good job on the research finding all the needed parts to get the clutch linkage back into shape.
Thanks Lloyd!! Ya gotta love a good challenge, especially when it works out well in the end!!☺
There is always a surprise when working on old stuff. Keep plugging away on the old Ford. I enjoy the videos
Thanks Mike!! I don't mind "A" surprise once in a while, seems like everything I touch is a surprise!!☺
I enjoy all your videos. I used to do all the same things. Can't do it now broke my neck in a car wreck. And now on my second time chemo fighting cancer. But still enjoying your work. Like I can still do it. Now teaching my son. Thanks
Thanks alot Glen!! Best of luck with your fight!!☺
Love it! Old time mechanicizing. I did a fair amount of this kind of adapting back in the day, doing engine swaps into cars & trucks that were not intended to fit together. 351 Windsor engine into a 47 Ford pickup was just one of many. Fun stuff!
I can only imagine some of the stuff you came across running a garage!!☺
Love this kind of Problem solving SH** ! It keeps you live ! ! Thanks Straight Ahead
Thanks Mike!! Yeah ya gotta love a good challenge, especially when it works out well in the end!!☺
I could not stop watching the video. Looking forward to part 2.
Thanks alot Tom!! We'll definitely do a follow up!!☺
Where there is a will, there is always a way. Nice solution.
Yeah Buddy!! Our next move would have been swivel bearings!!☺
When it comes to the engineering and fabrication, I'll watch a two hour video!
Thanks Pat!!☺
Nice work! Always good to see the Atlas in action too.
Thanks Chris!! That machine is so handy, especially for silly little jobs like that!!☺
I Watched this video last night! That was some brilliant fabrication! Nice job!
Thanks alot Bill!!☺
Should be a good pedal for a long time. Enjoy your thought processes gives me another perspective. 🍻
Thanks Andy!!☺
I sure gained knowledge of how the Z bar works. You're sure going to have a smooth feeling setup.
It amazes me that someone was actually driving it around like that!!☺
@@805ROADKING That's probably why some people think it's so hard to drive a clutch!
That's a lot of fiddling about to accommodate the engine movement - no wonder they went to hydraulic clutch actuators! I was half-expecting you to turn up the delrin bushings on the lathe ... you could use HDPE as well. Looking forward to the next episode, thanks for sharing, RK.
Thanks Tony!! Our next move would have been swivel bearings!!☺
Well I definitely hung around until it was long in the toot. Some good problem solving and fabrication RoadKing. Good vid.
Thanks Mike!! It's because of guys like you we keep making videos!!☺
I'm confident you'll figure a way to put it back together. We appreciate your videos.
Thanks alot Newman!! If it ain't one thing it's another!!☺
Thanks for sharing buddy. I never find any of your videos boring. I am sure your not the only one to start to fix something on an old car or truck and end up having to rebuild the whole thing. Shipping is really problem in this country. Rates are continuing to go up and the driver shortage isn't getting any better. I like what you came up with I think it will work fine and out live the both of us. lol That truck is going to be quiter and nicer on the inside than when it was new. I would cleaned up the engine block and everything before I would of put the fenders back on looks pretty dirty in there. Keep up the great work and videos!
Thanks alot Bob!! We're gonna wait for a nice warm Spring day to clean up that engine!! We have to replace alotta seals and gaskets first!!☺
Greetings from IL. I enjoy your videos and you give some great advice on fabrication/restoration that comes from years of experience. This job turned into quite a little project, but at least you will know it was done right when you finish it up. Sometimes it is fun to hunt down parts and make them all work together when taking on a project of this nature, especially if you are in no big hurry to complete it and can take the time necessary to come up with a good solution. Keep Up the good work!
Thanks alot Zach!!☺
Good job of modification. Looking forward to seeing it welded up and operating. Thanks for the look.
Thanks Mac!! We'll make sure we do a follow up!!☺
Nicely engineered solution to the problem!
Thanks alot Rob!!☺
You know you got precision machining when you got the sandpaper out! Looking good 👍
Its the fabrication part of this that you have the edge most of us would have to farm this out . Cost us a fortune so yeh thumbs up for this one 👍
Thanks Bill!!☺
Watching you engineer and fabricate is very interesting to me. Gives me ideas for when I need to tackle things like this. I have learned a lot from watching you. Thank you.
Thanks alot Larry!! Ya gotta love a good challenge, especially when it works out well in the end!!☺
Hey u gave me a great idea for when SOLID engine mounts are utilized using those bearings
I have a 73 Olson/Gruman step van, when I took out the engine to rebuild, someone decided to clean around and under the step van, the clutch linkage was laying there so I could just grab it and bolt it back, BUT, who ever cleaned under my van took all of it and I never found any of it !! I've been on EBay but I can't find any parts, so I am making everything from scratch !! I'm almost ready to test it.!!
Hope U get it together !!
Great Video. Thanks
Nothin's better than an old shop manual. I used to study my 73 Charger Dodge shop manual for hours trying to figure out where stuff was supposed to go after the car was altered. Interesting video RK :)
Thanks Jerry!! Yeah a good Manual is priceless, especially when you come across a hacked up old vehicle!!☺
Holy mackerel! The old domino effect attacks again. Nice job of garage engineering. Might be a good idea to get some new motor mounts too. Old iron is good iron...some just better than others. Thanks for all the great videos!
Thanks alot Mac!! Everything that I touch on that truck is a domino!!☺
This type of video is what brought me to the channel. Watching and learning the ingenuity and trick is very entertaining. Keep up the good work RK. That truck is in good hands. Great to see the old iron being put to use.
Thanks alot Ron!! It's because of guys like you we keep making videos!!☺
“I don’t want to listen to this crap”, RoadKing, you kill me! 😁. This thinking about how to solve the problem is the best part. Thru the first half of the video, I was thinking “use the chevy ball”, and that’s exactly what you did. For the rods, you might want to use heim joints to fix the pivot wear. Less friction and will accommodate misalignment. On my truck, I chucked the worn out z-bar, and converted to a hydraulic clutch. More work, but less friction when it was done, and no real wear parts. I do like your solution, though. 👍
Thanks Greg!! That Chevy Ball saved my ass with minimal modification!!☺
You would have loved my old 72 Ford 3/4 ton. It had been retrofitted with a 354 turbocharged Perkins diesel and an International T34 five speed transmission. Talk about custom fab LOL!
Figure it out & make it work! ... This is my type of vid. Well done R.K.
Thanks Tom!!☺
Sometimes what looks to be an easy fix openes up a can of worms. Good searching on finding your parts. It should work well when its finished
OMG!! All I wanted to do was change two small cheap bushings!!☺
After LDB welds that up it'll be better than new. cheers RK.
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
I remember years ago that Arm was called a Equalizer arm, anyway on the GM cars. Looks like your repair is going to work out great RK, I'm ready for the video 2 on this subject.
Take care Bud👍
Thanks Bruce!! You're right, I think the term equalizer arm or bar is the correct nomenclature for all make vehicles!!☺
Nice job, Roady. Sometimes it takes a few iterations before you can settle on something you're happy with. Those shipping charges are killing ya!
GREAT work around. 👍
Thanks alot Ron!!☺
A lot of thought went into that!
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
I hung in there for the whole thing good video. 👍
Thanks John!! It's because of guys like you that we keep making videos!!☺
I don't know about the rest of your subscribers, but I do not watch commercial TV. So I don't mind a long video. I like your content, and your delivery. It was a very interesting 40 minutes. Thanks.
Thanks alot Jim!! It's because of guys like you we keep making videos!!☺
You know how to make a guy feel good, cause I run into problems like this to!
That's cool!! Hope it helped a little!!☺
Back in the day I converted my Camaro (Yes a chevy) from an automatic to a standard before the clutch kits came out. I totally understand your engineering. Yours is better than mine as you have age and experience to do a better job than I did. I was 20 years old. I learned a lot though. Thanks for you knowledge and humour too RK
See You on Mick's Livestream on the 18th
Bruce
Thanks Buddy!! It's amazing that some of the stuff we did in our 20's seemed like such good ideas at the time eh!!☺
I remember all these parts for the clutch so well when I rebuilt a Bronco let’s say a lot of years ago....all I have of that Bronco is memories but your bringing everything back to life with your rebuild.....CHEERS
Thanks alot Gator!!☺
I just wanted to say great Job on the old Ford pickup truck I really enjoyed your videos I also watched the video on you shop heater that Mike put up for you I went and bought the same heater for my kitchen work's great
Thanks alot Paul!! Other than scaring the hell outta me every time the heater turns on and off I love the thing!!☺
Thank you man
Nice mod Roady. Always something when you dig into old stuff.
Thanks Buddy!! It never ends!!☺
I hope it works for you. That has been my nemesis on any older American manual vehicles. I have never found a good solution other than hydraulic conversion. Cables are no better. I have envisioned chromoly tubing and true spherical bearings but $$$$$! I keep finding every end of the linkage worn out too! Hiem ends? $$$!
Great project.
Thanks Tom!!☺
I'm here great stuff buddy! 👍
Thanks alot Buddy!! Hope you're recovering well!!☺
My 1959 Willy's Station Wagon is set up the same way. With a ball Crank and 2 balls. Luckily I can buy all that stuff through Kaiser-Willys Auto Supply. Ain't cheap tho! Great engineering RoadKing. Newk from Kentucky
Thanks Newk!!☺
Nice fix so far Roadking 👌!!
Thanks Dan'l!!☺
I had pretty much the same issue on my 61 Ford. I welded up the balls then turned them back true on a lathe. I was able to you the OEM bushings. I had to build the linkage because my one one was too far gone. There should be a brass bushing in the hole of the rod. I think it was a shouldered bushing 38" OD and 1/4" ID. Both brackets had to be welded. I think the one bracket of yours for the bellhousing is off a 6 cyl.
Good job bud!
Thanks alot Al!!☺
Having those balls on each end means that the engineers expected the Z-bar to move in all directions. The ball bearings would neverr have worked in place of the balls. You figured that out. You need to understand why the previous owner felt the need to do so many more modifications, mostly moving attach points and lengthening stuff. Maybe make a model out of popsicle sticks to see how the original was supposed to work. Do that for what you pulled off your truck and see if it works significantly differently. I guess I'm a bit late, I started writing this before I saw you making your fix.
I had a similar set up on my 55 Chevy I ended up using spherical bearings and straight stub shafts. The truck looks great!
Thanks Ken!! Yeah the swivel bearings were gonna be my next move if we couldn't find threaded balls!!☺
Enjoyed all 40-minutes RK so don't worry. Great fabrication work and mental agility to roll with the punch. I imagine the engine not being the OEM one was a little disappointing but you seemed to take it pretty well. I hate finding out stuff like that when you get in the later stages. In the end it's not going to matter because that truck is a masterpiece of restoration artwork you'll enjoy for years and then sell for a tidy profit :) BTW, I can't help but chuckle every time that little green pointer finger makes an appearance. I don't know why but I do.
Thanks alot Cal!! You're exactly right!! The Engine discovery was like a punch in the Gut!!☺
56 and 57 Chevy cars used a ball setup like that. 55 had a smaller ball. The original ball and stud were rivited or welded. Replacement ball and studs are a bolt on fix. Check your 57 Chevy for ball size if it was a stick shift car originally. Opps. If I had waited 2 more minutes, Up popped the Chevy type ball I was talking about.
That was a great video, I would have been happy to watch for and hour and half! I was going to ask if you could have used the one from the spares truck but I'm guessing it either didn't fit or was just as bad. Keep up the great work Roadking, I'm looking forward to seeing that truck on the road.
Thanks alot MrShin!! Yeah it's a shame the one on the donor truck was in excellent condition but that is a 6 cylinder and it's a completely different setup!!☺
The pointer😂😂😂
You couldn't have known going into it, but a cable or even some readily available fluid system parts, I know you know it would have been easier and cheaper, but it's one of a kind
Pfft, 40mins is nothing. One of my other favorite car related channels release videos much longer, so this one just about got me warmed up :)
Another great video, RoadKing! The thought-process on how to make repairs (including cost breakdown) was very interesting.
Thanks alot Olly!! It's because of guys like you we keep making videos!!☺
I know you’ve already solved the problem but it probably would have been cheaper and easier to get a master cylinder and slave cylinder and convert it to hydraulic. Back when I was building stock cars I put in a ton of time and engineering to set up a mechanical clutch pedal. Then I went with hydraulic and never looked back! I don’t remember which one I used, but it was off the shelf parts, pretty cheap and quick and simple.
Yeah hydraulic is definitely the way to go!! I didn't plan on getting into this that deeply, I just wanted to change the bushings!!☺
If that is derilin, they recommend silicon paste as a lube; no petroleum products. Nice work on the bell crank, I was going to suggest the Chevy clutch balls but you already found them.
Thanks for the silicone tip, I was unaware of that!!☺
Did on a auto to 4sp manual swap on a ‘55 Chevy, in 1981. Had the same issue.
Fabin on the fly
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
Now you can say your Ford has balls
Yeah Buddy!! ☺
,,gettin' closer to doin' burnouts...lol..stay safe..
probably extended the Z-Bar because the damn Nylon bushings kept melting because the exhaust is really close to the Z-Bar. My 77 F250 Hi-Boy had the same problem.
Great fabricobbling! anyone that calls it coil bind can work on their own damn truck.
Thanks Bud!!☺
Man.. What a mess :P To be honest buddy, I probably would have just gone with a hydraulic setup at that point ;)
Home shop engineering and fabricobling! I love it! Shipping can sure kill a project fast. Just curious; does the old parts truck have anything salvageable on it?
Yeah the Donor truck still has alotta good parts on it but as far as the clutch parts it's a 6 cylinder and it's a completely different setup!!☺
@@805ROADKING Ah, I figured there was a good reason.
been awhile since ive been on here. glad to see you stilll doing videos ^_^
Hey Britt!! Good to hear from you!! I catch your posts on the Facebook once in a while, I'm glad to see you doing so well!! That's quite a Boy ya got there!!☺
To repair one thing, you have to fix 5 others... The life of a mechanic...
Ain't that the truth!! You're lucky if you only have to fix 5 other things!!☺
Can you use solid motor mounts?
Anyway your solution is good too.
Also, the physical dimensions (external) on the 272 are the same as a 292.
I am sure you tried Dennis Carpenter in Concord NC. He is exclusively Ford parts.. LMC has a BB lot of parts too. But I am sure you already tried that....
Thanks Greg!! Yeah the plastic bushings came from DC, 90% of the rest of the truck came from LMC!!☺
i have the same problem,i wish i had some of those ball bearings
Remember, the file is your friend😀
Yeah Buddy!! It saved my ass again!!☺
i think rose joint bearings (spherical) would have worked on your bearing idea
Yeah Buddy!! That was the plan if all else failed!!☺
Where would I find that bracket that mounts to frame? Or what is it called
Don't grease the delrin, the plastic will swell with any petroleum based lube.
The delrin itself is supposed to be self lubricating
Did you happen to look at the donor trucks assembly and see if the ball ends and the tube were ok or the same? And I'm sure Mike could have turned those ball ends very easily. Di you happen to look in MC Masters website for those ball ends?
Yeah the donor is a 6 cyl, everything is completely different, that would have been too easy!! McMaster was the first place we looked, they have the threaded balls but nothing close to that size, they are almost 7/8"!!☺
The shipping is highway robbery!
Some places are outrageous!! And with all the shortages now we don't have the luxury of shopping around, ya gotta take what you can get!!☺
@@805ROADKING True. Really irks me when the shipping is more than the purchased item. and as light as a postage stamp!
theme song....ac/dc big balls
What about the parts truck? Did it not have anything you could use?
Nah, it's a 6 cyl, completely different assembly!!☺
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Thanks Buddy!!☺
did the parts truck not have them?
It was a completely different set up!! The parts truck is a 6 cylinder engine!!☺
Wouldn't it be easier to change it over to a wet clutch? Then you wouldn't need all the other stuff. You would probably spend the same amount. But you would have a smoother, quieter clutch. JMT.
Yeah a hydraulic clutch would have been a better solution but once I had all the parts for this setup it was just alot easier to continue!!☺
wouldnt a cable or hydraulic been easier buddy?that looked a drama lol :o)
Hydraulic would have been a better solution but that would be a big project!! It was alot easier fixing what was there once we had all the parts!!☺
The parts truck didn’t have a clutch?
Yeah it had a clutch!! It's a 6 cyl, completely different set up!!☺
There are no junkyards in my area with old parts The last guy to have anything would not sell anything to my neighbor when he had that 60's Ford truck he said he was going to crush everything no matter how old it was
There are alotta people like that!! They would rather watch something rot away in their yard then sell it or give it away!!☺
Just switch it over to a hydraulic clutch
You see taryl fixes all video he had a stroke of luck he got a briggs and Stratton that was manufactured dec 5 1941 two days before pearl harbor he has a real museum piece