making everyone rage with "low tier" Ryu
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- A lot of people have been saying Ryu is low tier/bottom tier/etc in Street Fighter 6, but I believe the classic shoto has a lot of tech to show in sf6 still! Let's try to land some of those super damaging combos he's famous for in this game!
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0:00 match 1 vs Gold Marisa
6:37 match 2 vs Gold Kimberly
8:36 match 3 vs Gold Chun Li
12:11 Match 4 vs Plat Kimberly
14:55 Match 5 vs Diamond Manon
16:56 Match 6 vs Master Kimberly
22:03 GRAND FINALS (no spoilers) - Hry
Ryu players who have been playing sf since sf2 are the most terrifying people in any game.
There's this one friend of mine who always plays Ryu on this arcade machine at our church, and I think it would be safe to say he could kick ass in sf6
My dad visited me and I mentioned SF6. We only did a few rounds, but how quickly he was adapting to the changes and getting more and more health on me was intense lol
@@the_real_boogeyman Agreed, but good luck making stop playing sf2 😅
I would only say that about kof players
@@microblast3700nah
I literally got salty earlier today losing to someone with an "I can't stop winning" title so I really felt that when he pointed it out.
The only weakness Ryu has is that everyone knows how to fight against him.
But then there are people who have mained Ryu for decades. Good luck against them.
.... I'm new here. How do you fight against Ryu?
Yeah no that's just not it. He's not bad. But compared to the other two shotos he's not as good either. Just because Someone like jmcrofts can do well with him on ladder doesn't mean he's not undertuned compared to some other options.
@@ToveriJuri read Justin Wong has like a 92% winrate with Ryu to Master rank but he still place Ryu at bottom tier
Ryu tools are just generic tools that are outclassed by other people. His weakness is he has no strength.
the thing is most ryu downplayers vocal as hell and most of em are low ranks lol
@@shaunchan5890 tierlists only matter in pro play
Being Plat 1 I relate so much more to the content like that than seeing Masters vs Masters. Like they do crazy stuff that is fun to watch, but seeing a content creator playing crazy players that spam stuff is so much closer to my games ahaha.
Once again great content
bro plat 1 is so wild. some plats just absolutely stomp tf outta me with no contest, others are straight silver, its fun
@@staatsnoobNr1 100% the skill disparity is wild. Hella fun games in plat.
Ryu feels like the master that you go back to whenever you feel the need to brush up your fundamentals.
The character you (basically) train with, huh? Given his entire character arc, this sentiment is _very_ on brand for Ryu!
im losing in mortal kombat. maybe ryu can help me? LOL
Exactly
I love the way Ryu says "A opening !" when he attack. like he really is a master, waiting for the split second his opponent will leave an opportunity to strike.
Doesn't do much for his reputation of being predictable though. Glass half full opinion? Training your opponent why they got knocked out, while knocking them out? Nuff said.
Cammy sounds vicious when she says the same thing during her Rush.
This is why I love Cammy. She also says that and "My Chance!" they always get me hyped up. Plus I love her accent.
An
@@OzymandiasWasRight Ryu wants them to learn, if they learn then they get stronger and he has a stronger opponent lol.
The problem with Ryu is the problem he will always have and will continue to have for as long as street fighter exists which is that everyone knows how to fight against him. His playstyle is too honest and is essentially the same for 30 years not necessarily bad just lacking surprise. Also its pretty rare to find a char that specifically struggles against him. Despite all this I think his sf6 incarnation is much better than sf5. He uses the system mechanics well and it feels like less of an uphill battle with him than in sf5
That’s why ryu clones are more fun than him like Akuma Kage and evil Ryu since it’s well different. But for now I’m still a Ryu main
Funny enough in third strike Ryu is so basic that it's hard to know how the other player is going to use him. When he starts doing things that you don't expect you find your life starting to get deleted because his damage is deceptively high in that game.
@@TlbHibiki his dmg in sf6 is also deceptively high due to him being shown as "balanced" but hits harder than Ken who is "power" type
@@xxiii262 hes supposed to be the shoto that has mastered the hadoken but they never make his fireball feel unique or his strong suit. Instead every new sf game just introduces more moves/chars to beat his fireball. In sf6 for instance denjin charge should power up all his fireballs for a certain time limit not just one or he should be able to stack charges.
@@jms974 Absolutely. I am a Ryu main. He should be able to stack charges, or have combos that naturally give him Denjin charge like Jamie.
Not sure whether to be more terrified of a lv 10 CPU, or a Ryu main whose been shoryukening since Alpha.
Ryu's solid but denjin charge is a double edged sword.
Yeah, charged fireball is cool but you dont always want to use it, so you hold on to charge for hashogeki, now your options are restricted...theres been talk about people wanting Ryu to be buffed, where you can charge denjin, but still use light or medium fireball, only heavy does the charged fireball.
I think this would be cool and not only add to the mind game of the fireball, but also increase the effectiveness of hashogeki, cause right now, having to commit so heavily to a charge (you've already given up a turn to get it) AND fully commit to which special makes it hard to want to charge instead of going for oki
I'd prefer if medium did denjin, and you kept heavy and light, for the speed differential.
I wonder if letting him hold two charges at a time would be busted.
I love how respectful, willing to learn and happy you are. Subbed and enjoyed it a lot
Since Luke is the new beginner pick, I hope they start giving Ryu some new tech. Making Denjin charge have stocks like Juri or Lily or making it an install would do a lot for him.
Wherever theres a "low tier character" theres also always a guy online using that low tier character that will terrorize you
Ryu is a godsend for older SF players who need a bridge to SF6. I skipped SF4-5 and came to SF6 from 3S. I'm a Ken main in the older games but Ryu was my guy in SF6. Kimberly was my secondary because she felt very familiar to Guy from Alpha. I'm back to Ken now but I would've felt lost without Ryu and Kimberly who felt familiar.
I feel the pain of that last Chun Li whenever she dropped the combo, Chun li mains need daily practice
As somebody who plays Ryu a lot so far, all I can really think about with Denjin Charge is, "Man. I lost my variable speed fireball that I use to mess with people trying to block properly. I kind of want that back right now, actually." Not that Denjin is bad, but the loss of options definitely feels bad.
Idk I like how it buffs hashogeki so it launches and saves some frames on block
@@UltimateTS64 You're thinking of the mechanical use of it being very useful for both combo starters and on blockstun. I'm thinking it's just really funny to watch somebody get used to medium fireball timing for perfect parries only to get hit by heavy fireball repeatedly and watch their defense collapse as they overthink about why they're getting hit as the difference is barely noticeable.
I wish dejinn charge was a super install instead
24:46 I think this moment illustrates a way that denjin charge can be a bit of a liability--it signals to your opponent that you're planning to fireball, so that means that if they have a move that bypasses fireball, they're going to queue it up. Otoh, I bet you can do that and then bait out the anti-fireball move with your own countermeasure in mind. I guess what I'm saying is, the mind games in SF6 are really fun. 😅
That or they up their defense since hashogeki gets an amazing buff.
Ryu planning to send a projectile isn't really a surprise... like Honda's hands buff, it's not exactly a surprise...
light hashogeki is a great bait i got so many people to jump into my dp by just mixing it in with regular fireballs
He may not be S tier, but hes god damn good. Lots of options, plenty of good normals and special attacks, great zoning when you want to and some of the sickest corner combos in the game imo. I always loved akuma in all the sf games, sf 3 alpha, 3rd strike sf4 and 5. so Ima play ryu, until the big boi comes out
The thing with Ryu is that doesn’t excel at anything. Whatever Ryu can do, someone else can do it to and better at that.
As a fellow Gouki main. MESSATSU!!!
Hes not lol
You literally say Ryu's good but then you say that you'll drop him once another BETTER shoto drops. This comment section man, just admit that Ryu's ass in this game lol.
His zoning is great and he hits really hard but he just doesn't have access to plus frames the same way the top tiers do which will ultimately keep him down hard
People call Ryu “too balanced”
I call him “ready for anything”
I agree. ‘Too balanced’ is a funny term. Being in balance might suggest you aren’t ‘too’ much of anything.
So many classic jmcrofts quotables in this video that can be printed on a tshirt or coffee mug
Love your content! always a blast to watch your content!
In my experience it's always scrubby JPs who leave after one match, wether they win or lose
It's always JP's or cammy's
Factual
I’ve been trying Ryu and it’s real fun watching you go for it with him.
Dude you're the most charismatic streamer I ever saw. Not even lying. I'm hooked to your vids and I don't even play SF. Keep up the good work!
yeah he's surprisingly entertaining considering he doesn't do anything extraordinarily unique. maybe it's that FGC YT lacks YTers like him? 🤔
damn... If I look at you play these matches, you make it look so goddamn easy. Highly entertaining to watch!
I chose Ryu in SF6 and I couldn’t be happier. He is balanced and adaptable. He can move from offense to defence in an instant. His fireball is great. His anti airs are great. His damage output is amazing. His combo routes can achieve huge damage with relative simplicity. Fighting should be simple. Over complicating things is a mistake.
"Tried to DI the Gladius"
That hit too close to home
This video was a rollercoaster! I would like it if you did Luke placement matches. He seems a bit degen, so it would be a fun video. Also, sick music sync at 22:48
Oh man, that Marisa game was painful to watch lol. So many incredibly negative moves went totally unpunished
Ryu feels stressful to play. It feels like you can take or drop a game on anyone regardless of if they're bronze or diamond
Ryu is not weak at all. He just doesn’t have anything crazy broken. He is A tier and has everything you need. I don’t know what people are smoking.
People aren't smoking anything buddy, the game doesn't have that "many" characters so if your character is surclassed by another one that does your stuff, but better, then you end up being called low tier.
"Weak" literally always means "weak compared to the rest of the cast". What the hell does a character gain from being A tier if the weakest character in the game is B tier?
too many low rank scrubs who main ryu who wanna blame their losses on their character pretty much ive played against some good ryus he can be obnoxcious to play against especially his insane dmg output
his eyebrows go up to his hairline when he drops a combo lmao
I would love to see you trying out Chun-Li for your placement matches! I think she's the coolest character in the game, and even though I wanted to main her, I got super discouraged myself while trying to learn how to play with her (this is my 1st fighting game ever so my execution is really bad still LOL). I want to see you kicking ass with her so I can have something to look forward to when I do feel ready to give her another shot! 🥺
Look up fighting game guide to good execution
You could look Jabhim's Chun-Li.
Fun fact the plat Kimberly literally did one combo, one
Jump in medium kick -> light crouching kick -> light tatsu
That’s it
---SPOILER ALERT---
As someone who is kind of new to fighting games and is trying to learn how to play as Chun-Li, that combo (25:28) was sick! I don't know all the moves names, but I think the combo was:
Hard kick -> Serenity -> Medium Serenity Kick -> OD Spinning Bird Kick -> Lightning Kicks (i guess Medium) -> Level 3!
Too bad she used it when your health was already low hahaha. Anyways, in my case, I'll keep training and trying to do cool combos!
Im new to Street Fighter online play is the etiquette to wait for the cutscenes or hit start to skip everything when fighting. Im not sure if it skips after one hits start or both hit start between rounds. Is there an etiquette?
That was VERY entertaining!! Had me laugh and smile a lot
Light Donkey Kick is a reliable combo ender with good oki for Denjin Charge. Some of the losses and combo drops probably could’ve been prevented if Donkey Kick was used more
Do you get negative frames on wake up against Marisa?
Chunners is always a treat to see in action. Feel like doing her qualifiers next?
19:40 "I don't think I lost any match with Honda right ?" well, the results of those placements matchs were 7W 3L, but yes, I guess we can consider that 3 is equal to 0 xD (Remember this Dee Jay ! ;) )
Ryu playing style is just like him. You have to be damn solid with execution and game sense. Solid. No mistake allowed. No "sweet pot" to take advantage of. I kind of like this.
This game feels like tekken with how easy the combos are and how much damage they do.
GG Man !!! I play Ryu from 1 week. Im Plat1. This is not easy like a Honda, but so Nice to play ! I truly learn things with this character
I want you to know, I was rooting for the Marisa in the first match the moment you called her theme “Home Depot music”
It does sound hella cheesy tbf
@@Eval999 and it's amazing for it
Been maining Ryu and Ken since the PS1 era. X-Men vs. SF, MvC, Alpha series, EX series - always roll with these boys.
I didn't play SFIV or V during their prime days so having legacy characters from almost 30 years ago was a godsend for players like me. Been able to get up to Plat 1 in a relatively short time since jumping on SF6.
I'm trying Ryu on ranked tonight. I have been inspired 😁
Dude I haven’t played a sf game since turbo and this looks both amazing and like something that I would never have the time to be any good at
Whats with the input reader is that something they can fix?
another good content keep it up!
I think Chun-Li next would be pretty sick. Been thinking of picking her up and would love to see your take on her.
Imo they made her easier
You just need to get used to
Her jack knife kick no longer
Being charged.
Glad it wasn’t just me. I’ve lost count the number of times I died when the super came out instead of a dp when I tried to anti air.
I also end up throwing out a shinku hadouken when I was trying to anti air with a DP. I wish I could map that super to light punch only or something, it’s a frequent problem for me
What type of control system do you have set up?
Shinku hadoken is a great anti air xD
@@qlasalle I’m using classic controls but playing on pad. Analog user on Xbox series pad. Usually happens when I’m walking backwards and try to DP
I appreciate u including your losses in the vid :)
Lmfao bro said Home Depot music! Damn bro i cant unhear it now🤣
Man, one thing I've been noticing across all the high-level players I follow (Punk, SnakeEyez, Smug, Max, JWong, etc.) is that input errors with SF6 are super common for some reason. Capcom changed the way inputs are read/queued, and it looks like a lot of people are having a hard time adjusting; they're getting bad/wrong inputs at crucial moments. And in this game, practically every moment is crucial when you can get punished for 60% of your life bar off one mistake. I've noticed it's even worse if you have negative edge turned on, too.
The Home Depot music lol. Also, Just watched a video where someone else mentioned the weird input reader. Glad to know I'm not going crazy. Hopefully they will fix that soon? Maybe they don't need to? I DK.
As a gold Marisa player... I like this video. First couple matches had me giggling.
That Marisa had put in some lab work as they punished a few times with the optimum drive rush combo.
@@SpartanOfLuxon word? I'm gonna rewatch this later and try to lab it out, that's a cool combo
@@connormccarthy2745 At 4:04 if you end that whole DI combo with a OD superman punch instead of the Gladius you hit the enemy so far that they do a wall splat, from there you can follow up with either a command grab or another combo
@@SpartanOfLuxon thanks a ton!
Name checks out
Bro. He made all the mistakes. I was laughing out loud.
jmcrofts returns
I’m a Ryu and Ken main in all of the SF games I play. I don’t care how basic they are or what anyone says. They will always be my mains!
Agreed..and have been my mains since SNES.
I believe u bro. accidental supers may just be due to non-optimal stick positioning
Ryu is a character I know all of the moves for without any kind of real recognition. Guile, Ryu and Ken (in SF2) are the only characters I can remember all of the moves for the few times I play SF.
They have new moves, though.
@@rafafc4127
I also don’t play Street Fighter, which is the main point.
Remember when Ryu had HCF+P as his Shakunetsu Hadouken (Red Fireball). I wonder if he could use this for his denjin fireball input instead so he can choose when to use it? I mean he while firing off regular fireballs he can fire a denjin in between to surprise the oppenent. Just a thought. Also how to implement this in modern.
The game has your history, I was placed diamond with 2 chars in a row, even losing some matches. I played the chars with friends b4 and won a lot so it seems that counts too, probably because your kudos.
is jmcroft on a hitbox? or does he have a silent stick because i never hear his joystick ever lmao
I know Ryu isn't the best out there, but I still main him (or should I say share main spot with my Cammy). I can't explain, but I feel safe and confident on what I'm doing with him, more than with other characters. I've been playing Ryu since the Alpha days, and it's nice to see the different quirks between games, even when he mostly stays the same. Also, he might not have the biggest damage output in 6, but Ryu deals some decent damage with some easy and reliable combos.
I agree. I think because of his simple moveset, it helps my mind be clear and I feel like I focus better. While I also main ken and jamie, I have a slight tendency to over utilize strong moves and flowchart a bit. With ryu tho I enter the zen state, start seein the code of the matrix
Just saying... Ryu has big damage. 🤣🤣🤣 Plat 4 and my sweatiest matches are always against a ryu. If I whiff once... Yup. Bye bye health. The ryu players I've played against were all excellent at neutral and execution, so I had to be on my A game.
Hey jm, I think you might appreciate the "Modern" controls in the menu! It's great for newer players like yourself! An instant shouryuken might help you quite a bit with your Ryu :)
kek
Guile next! More Ryu would also be dope
I wanna see Luke, and you gotta try and land his level 2 as many times as you can. "BEAST MODE BABYYY!!"
I'm about to watch this but between judging with that video's title and the previous one with Gief, looks like someone is out for blood this summer XD
I wish he could do something off his standing medium kick. It’s a great poke but you can’t even drive cancel off it. Drive cancel would be fair since it’s expensive
Imma need to see your placement with Manon.
i would like to see juri, is so fun to watch the long combos
"Everyone will rage. Including me." - jmcrofts, probably
Wait. Does this game have some like dynamic music or something? Kinda what KI has. Because at 9:07 those jabs were synced up waaaaay too perfectly to the beat.
We gotta see Kimberly next!!!
Half the reason hes my main is the bonus of the strong opinions about who pick him.
Plus when i get destroyed, im still just learning this game after all.
Came to the channel to see ah Vid just posted recently aaaand it's not there?? Am I going nuts?? Was one I really wanted to hear too haha
As a Chun player who has just reached plat 5 for the first time and will probably go back to plat 4 (and probably plat 3) in my next sets...
it was kinda sad watching that last Chun-li player. Their decisions were really good, and the intensions were definitely there, but they dropped most of the combos. And dropping a combo with Chun-li is very punitive. But sometimes it's just like this. The execution is taking some vacations and you're in deep water (and in burnout).
3:24 no johns, homie
Man Ryu being called one of the worst when he's like the face of this whole story
YOOOOO! I didn't know Marisa could jump fireballs like that!
you need to hold denjin for meterless combo, it's dumb because if you hold it you can't use your #1 zoning tool, if anything I think they should give you an EX version that gives you 2 charges or give him some kind of super that charges it like Jaime at least
I had a lot of one and dones last night when I was winning with Marisa. It was like at the stroke of midnight people just stopped running it back on the loss.
I've noticed on weekends the volume of one-and-done's increases dramatically.
What I hate about the players of 6, myself included as this game has pissed me off so much, is that they one and done after every match.
I only do it if I feel the matchup is one sided as hell(aka I get so salty that I don’t wanna sacrifice my controller)
That link after drive rush 6mp is pretty tight, i will also drop that and die. Feelsbadman
Seeing my friend kill it on the Gold Marisa in this video was such a nice surprise!
Ryu is pretty mid in this game. I would love if Denjin applied to all his special moves and he could choose when to do it sort of like how Cammy can charge her moves, or how Luke can change the effects of his moves. Maybe it would be as simple as it applies to his next OD special, that way he can still use his fireball without using his Denjin charge. I dont play him much, so I dont care, but I feel like Ryu should always be top tier.
Does Denjin effect his supers? That might be cool too.
denjin already works with his level 1 and 2
@@bigpapasm that makes sense.
There is nothing wrong with RYU. He is great. He just suffers from Kobe Bryant syndrome. Why pick him when Michael Jordan (Luke) exist and is him just better
Type this in YT: "Have you seen the #1 ranked Ryu?"... All characters can be good in hot hands
I swear sometimes there’s a content creator ranked mode lol; I don’t think I’ve ever played anyone this trash, much less for a half hour straight and up through diamond🧐 Ranked is still super weird right now, doesn’t mean much but is fun
yeah, the quality of the opponent he gets is unbelievably bad even in the higher ranks.
I’d like to see a Chun Li or Juri attempt.
“You guys know about the input reader in this game?”
I also get supers when I mash 😅
I've been getting a lot of one and done lately too. I'm like, don't quit! let me farm off you!!
why is the gameplay at 10fps?
22:51 Bro chun hit and Ryu 2 hit to the beat damn
Ive been a ryu player since street fighter for the super nintendo. Crazy to see now people are saying he is low tier
Rug should be able to charge his fireball after a charge, maybe even break guard
did we feel the 5 hit combo land after 5 matches? yea, I did too. LOL.
As a wise man once said
"PLEASE, no johns"
Ryu is the most honest character in the game. No tricks, no surprises. Just clean play.
That is why I main Ryu. There is no fun with winning with a broken or overpowered character like E-Honda or Juri.