I Asked 100 Tournament Players To Make a Fighting Game Tier List

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  • čas přidán 21. 03. 2024
  • I wish I could say this tier list is 100% accurate with a straight face, but I'm pretty sure my Mom could make a better fighting game tier list than this. Shoutouts to ‪@jwonggg‬ for the help on this
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  • @Diaphone
    @Diaphone  Před 2 měsíci +648

    My first attempt at an IRL video - shoutouts to Justin Wong for the help on this. If this vid gets 2000 Likes I'll make another (challenge?)
    Also turns out I don't know how to hold a mic, so sorry for the occasional audio issue. We had to cut a lot of footage for a few reasons (mostly audio or for pacing), so apologies if you participated but didn't make the video

    • @brobafett9151
      @brobafett9151 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Success man, love this content from you brother. Keep it coming!

    • @P0liFGC
      @P0liFGC Před 2 měsíci +11

      This was your first?? I never would’ve guessed. Would def like more videos like this

    • @Eilanzer
      @Eilanzer Před 2 měsíci +1

      love this video man!

    • @Zuyoga
      @Zuyoga Před 2 měsíci +1

      this is fun!

    • @quartzeye8329
      @quartzeye8329 Před 2 měsíci +2

      This video was SUPER entertaining. Great stuff!!! (Besides the +R / Xrd / BBCF erasure).

  • @jwonggg
    @jwonggg Před 2 měsíci +2642

    MK11 never left my spot LMFAO

    • @Zefraxa
      @Zefraxa Před 2 měsíci +93

      You were just spitting ng facts from the start, lmao

    • @superbadisfunmy
      @superbadisfunmy Před 2 měsíci +15

      When your right your right and if you was wrong you could have been right.

    • @user-bkey
      @user-bkey Před 2 měsíci +4

      LOL

    • @baconbitz7804
      @baconbitz7804 Před 2 měsíci +10

      They should’ve let you make the list from the start. All facts no printer

    • @MrCageCat
      @MrCageCat Před 2 měsíci +7

      Why you're up there with the pros Justin, you know your shit 😂

  • @Calhasnopals
    @Calhasnopals Před 2 měsíci +2442

    Justin is so real for sacrificing his tier for MK11’s downfall. That’s my GOAT

    • @zanpakutoman4225
      @zanpakutoman4225 Před 2 měsíci +101

      The only game that never got moved LUL.

    • @MrMooMoo088
      @MrMooMoo088 Před 2 měsíci +66

      Tier list is accurate just for having this. Mk11 is absolutely trash.

    • @Ronbotnik
      @Ronbotnik Před 2 měsíci +48

      MK been trash for a hot ass minute Justin the GOAT for that

    • @VendreadMike95
      @VendreadMike95 Před 2 měsíci

      🔥🔥🔥👍🏽

    • @KCAssassin98
      @KCAssassin98 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Ronbotnik nice try

  • @Maepull
    @Maepull Před měsícem +152

    "what you got against fighterZ?"
    "nothing i just keep getting my ass beat on it"
    i wanna elect that mf for president ive never seen someone represent my feelings so much 😭

  • @danielbueno8474
    @danielbueno8474 Před 2 měsíci +166

    Shoutouts to that one girl at the end who saved Tekken 7 from being unfairly thrown to the bottom tier by some filthy casual

  • @NenadTricko
    @NenadTricko Před 2 měsíci +652

    "arcsys gave us rollback" if only he knew

    • @itscanyonevesimp
      @itscanyonevesimp Před 2 měsíci +25

      Let them dream. I'm still dreaming okay

    • @rasha1a
      @rasha1a Před 2 měsíci +68

      Melty Blood crawled through nails and broken glass so modern fighting games could shoot themselves in the knees releasing without rollback

    • @aboxonmydesk319
      @aboxonmydesk319 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Didn’t they release rollback?

    • @ericg1100
      @ericg1100 Před 4 dny +1

      Idk why people act like dbfz has bad netplay, ive never had a problem with glitching like i have w smash bros

    • @Crackhog
      @Crackhog Před 8 hodinami

      ​@@ericg1100 when does smash online glitch, like ever?

  • @CurlyQ896
    @CurlyQ896 Před 2 měsíci +1109

    I love how everyone came together to say MK 11 was trash lmao

    • @librarygary1618
      @librarygary1618 Před 2 měsíci +56

      That 21 Savage reveal trailer at the game awards was sick as hell though

    • @gigabyte3420
      @gigabyte3420 Před 2 měsíci +16

      @@librarygary1618unironically my favorite fight scene in all media

    • @IbukiClean
      @IbukiClean Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@librarygary161821 was my fav rapper at the time, shit was hype 💯

    • @MangaGamified
      @MangaGamified Před 2 měsíci +1

      I already felt it was lackluster compared to the customization of moves of MK10, as usual your average player can't form opinions unless they're high in ranked or a pro.

    • @angelstyle9677
      @angelstyle9677 Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@librarygary1618unfortunately a 90 second trailer doesn’t make up for an absolute dog shit game stale gameplay.

  • @d0gh0t
    @d0gh0t Před 2 měsíci +96

    No Tekken 3, No MK9, No Killer Instinct, No Street Fighter 4, etc. dude wtf

    • @PowerRobMusic
      @PowerRobMusic Před 2 měsíci +24

      MK9 and USFIV was the peak of fighting games as far as I'm concerned.

    • @SCORP1ONF1RE
      @SCORP1ONF1RE Před měsícem +1

      agreed. theyre tryin to promote sf6

    • @josefsad1502
      @josefsad1502 Před měsícem +10

      Killer Imstinct is the best!

    • @amai2307
      @amai2307 Před 25 dny +1

      ​@@PowerRobMusicsounds like a guy, who havent played mbaa.

    • @mellomoose_
      @mellomoose_ Před 19 dny +3

      sf4 is my pick, and i was waiting for somebody to say it lmao

  • @professorlapis8305
    @professorlapis8305 Před 2 měsíci +59

    "Get injustice up outta there"💀💀💀 lmfao this is a fire vid diaphone

  • @ITNoetic
    @ITNoetic Před 2 měsíci +403

    My man strolled up in an Aaliyah shirt and said confidently, "Breakers Revenge." What a man of culture

    • @Marzimus
      @Marzimus Před 2 měsíci +8

      I swear the demo is the whole game. Download it on any console I come across to spread FGC vibes.

    • @boomguy2
      @boomguy2 Před 2 měsíci +5

      When I saw this dude I immediately scrolled down to the comments lmao. Mans truly exuding that aura (see my Condor)

    • @KazumaKiryu-0
      @KazumaKiryu-0 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Was looking for this comment or about to make my own. R I P babygurl

    • @ecsfusion7472
      @ecsfusion7472 Před 2 měsíci

      Like seriously.......dude knows what's up for sure

    • @ImStillMarz
      @ImStillMarz Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Marzimus Wait fr? So the only point of buying the game is to play online?

  • @TheOldFashionedDad
    @TheOldFashionedDad Před 2 měsíci +444

    The Latino coming in clutch for KOF hahah classic. Loved the video

    • @IbukiClean
      @IbukiClean Před 2 měsíci +40

      Mexicans are the best players in kof

    • @TheOldFashionedDad
      @TheOldFashionedDad Před 2 měsíci +14

      @@IbukiClean oh yeah I know, They are dominant.

    • @kingdavid7516
      @kingdavid7516 Před 2 měsíci +7

      i thought the same thing, latinos love their KoF

    • @supermonobros
      @supermonobros Před 26 dny +1

      I was surprised that someone mentioned KOF xv inthe first 3 minutes, i thought it wouldn't even be mentioned, for some reason in USA no one can play kof

  • @ghostofthesun89
    @ghostofthesun89 Před 2 měsíci +4

    really fun video. Full of surprises. Everyone has something unique they love or hate! Loved it. Good job, you got this!

  • @tastyscavenger
    @tastyscavenger Před 2 měsíci +5

    This really puts a lot of conversations I have seen in perspective, turns out passion in fighting games =/= taste in fighting games.

  • @etl2474
    @etl2474 Před 2 měsíci +365

    Fighting game community can't even come together to make a decent tier list

    • @Hawko1313
      @Hawko1313 Před 2 měsíci +29

      Tbh nearly every game on that list is good. There’s no way to make it satisfying, but that’s the enjoyment.

    • @christiankoll1528
      @christiankoll1528 Před měsícem +10

      It's almost as if they're too busy.... fighting! 😆
      I'll see myself out.

    • @chillbro2275
      @chillbro2275 Před měsícem +3

      haha And that's a good thing.

    • @chillbro2275
      @chillbro2275 Před měsícem +1

      @@christiankoll1528 hahaha yeah man hahahaha but grab a free snack before you go

    • @crashbandicoot5636
      @crashbandicoot5636 Před měsícem +1

      I mean, when you say "Fighting game community" that's such a wide blanket, 2D and 3D fighting games themselves differ immensely not to mention all the different franchises and sub-genres.

  • @librarygary1618
    @librarygary1618 Před 2 měsíci +485

    "I like to play 2k and like a Blaz Blue at the same time" 😭😭😭

  • @ego3162
    @ego3162 Před 2 měsíci +203

    13:53
    He is exactly how i picture someone who'd say the phrase "Strive isn't Guilty Gear"

    • @bulletsunderpressure
      @bulletsunderpressure Před 2 měsíci +50

      Yup. He definitely looks like a reddit user.

    • @G3N0M3501DI3R
      @G3N0M3501DI3R Před 2 měsíci +21

      Strive is still Guilty Gear but GGXXAC+R is still better.

    • @punkypony5165
      @punkypony5165 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Lmao

    • @tita4359
      @tita4359 Před 2 měsíci +21

      I mean he’s not wrong. Strive went against all of the design principles of previous guilty gears just to try to garner more mainstream appeal. It’s a dumbed down watered down guilty gear

    • @zandzz
      @zandzz Před 2 měsíci +10

      @@tita4359I mean, people put mvc2 up there cause it was the first game they learned and for nostalgia, being easier to learn is good for new players who’ve never played before

  • @Tokyo5o
    @Tokyo5o Před 2 měsíci +8

    Strive at the bottom says everything about this toer list lol

  • @briangoulet948
    @briangoulet948 Před 2 měsíci +505

    Garou in trash? Yeah people have no idea what they're talking about lmao

    • @thesaltmerchant4564
      @thesaltmerchant4564 Před 2 měsíci +9

      It's fine

    • @KTP200
      @KTP200 Před 2 měsíci +60

      I see it as one of those games that countless people revere, but barely anyone actually enjoys playing long sets of

    • @ThatWolfArrow
      @ThatWolfArrow Před 2 měsíci +33

      The goal of this list isnt to ge accurate but to cause discourse.

    • @OmarVedlity
      @OmarVedlity Před 2 měsíci +24

      I think Granblue is hot garbage made for 9 years old. It’s all opinions man.

    • @sobornes239
      @sobornes239 Před 2 měsíci +25

      Unfortunately... There's no King Of Fighters 2002 UM or 98 UM in this list too, simply because Kof isn't that popular in the USA.

  • @Ti7Vk3y
    @Ti7Vk3y Před 2 měsíci +79

    Love the passionate GG speech @ 13:01 followed by the public execution @ 13:27 lmao. Love the idea of this type of tier list where it's mostly for engagement and fun.

  • @kniestsnacker5000
    @kniestsnacker5000 Před 2 měsíci +3

    That was a fun video man! Kinda surprised to see a streamer do so well in an irl video

  • @Smashfrost0
    @Smashfrost0 Před 2 měsíci +37

    Sick video, the irl content is a cool change of pace and I always love seeing players passionate about different games

  • @thought_engine2795
    @thought_engine2795 Před 2 měsíci +6

    This is great! I enjoy everyone's reactions, and reasoning. Please do more community stuff! :D

  • @adamkeasey655
    @adamkeasey655 Před měsícem +1

    This should be a series. Anytime you go to one of these events, hit people up like this. This gives time for more modern games to establish their legacy, more patches and DLCs, more opinions, and flat out for more games to fit on there!

  • @austinzobel4613
    @austinzobel4613 Před 2 měsíci +5

    The way the tier list organized itself was setup so it wasn't an objective way of seeing it... but it DID make a fun way of doing it that was good enough

  • @PazuChill
    @PazuChill Před 2 měsíci +94

    DOA2-5 are still criminally slept on; you hate to see it. People don't know about how good they are.

    • @Amayziiin
      @Amayziiin Před 2 měsíci +14

      Brooooo!!! I was looking for this comment. Thank you! I thought maybe I was crazy. That was my JAM! Me and my buddy used to have some heated tag matches on that bad boy.

    • @fivefive9514
      @fivefive9514 Před 2 měsíci

      they know. they just discriminate because DOA series has a female protagonist and female dominant roster. fragile male egos feel threatened by DOA series thats why they undermined DOA6's reception and underated it and singled it out for greed when capcom and NRS and others are not innocent. like EVO Mr Wizard and his "core values" , DOA haters are sexist and misogynistic pigs, and shame on Koei Tecmo catering to that with their Xtreme series. though on the bright side, DOA5 and DOA6 are still played online daily on PS4/PS5. czcams.com/video/NK3KmbZbAA8/video.html

    • @xOmniCloudx
      @xOmniCloudx Před 2 měsíci +5

      DOA2, 3 and 5 are great. DOA4 is trash.

    • @find2hard
      @find2hard Před 2 měsíci +18

      Legit great fighting games! The bouncy physics is just sugar on top.

    • @BladeReynolds
      @BladeReynolds Před 2 měsíci +7

      DOA2 Ultimate on the Xbox was just wow!

  • @zanpakutoman4225
    @zanpakutoman4225 Před 2 měsíci +13

    This was cool! It definitely shows what the general audience thinks of games, when a game would get placed high then immediatley get swapped down or vice versa.

  • @lifts586
    @lifts586 Před 2 měsíci +47

    Not a single SF2 game on the list? What?!?!??!?!? Super Turbo is still played to this day in tournaments.

    • @ArpeggioPegasusMusic
      @ArpeggioPegasusMusic Před 2 měsíci +1

      Old game.

    • @theycallmejpj
      @theycallmejpj Před 2 měsíci +9

      Look at the age of people who were being asked

    • @lifts586
      @lifts586 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@ArpeggioPegasusMusic so is MK2, Mark of the Wolves, KOF 97, 3rd Strike, Breakers Revenge and MvC2. Super Turbo came out in 94. MK2 was 93. It surprising no SF2 game is in the list at all. If no games from the 90s made this list I would understand. That was not the case though. So it's odd that those games from the 90s made this list but not any SF2 game.

    • @lifts586
      @lifts586 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@theycallmejpj explain MK2, Mark of the Wolves, KOF 97, 3rd Strike, Breakers Revenge and MvC2 making this list but not Super Turbo. All of those games are 90s games.

    • @balintkristof8442
      @balintkristof8442 Před měsícem +1

      It's a classic, it's great, but it's a broken piece of shit.

  • @brawss
    @brawss Před měsícem +8

    13:01 bro stopped snoop dogg at the fighting tournaments

  • @bruh1177
    @bruh1177 Před 2 měsíci +255

    This breaks my heart seeing no Virtua Fighter on here, literally one of the most important fighting game series of all time.

    • @carck6442
      @carck6442 Před 2 měsíci +30

      VF will rise again brother

    • @dejanbogdanovic4147
      @dejanbogdanovic4147 Před 2 měsíci +17

      Virtua & Bloody Roar 2 beyond goats...

    • @fivefive9514
      @fivefive9514 Před 2 měsíci +13

      because most of the FGC have shallow minds and only play street fighter clones .. VF5US still has daily players online over 2 years later, though. DOA5 and DOA6 have a playerbase on PS4 too.

    • @gameclips5734
      @gameclips5734 Před 2 měsíci +2

      where is dynasty warriors

    • @breadburner7276
      @breadburner7276 Před 2 měsíci +19

      @@fivefive9514grrrr how dare people not like my very niche game they must be stupid RAAHHHHHH I HATE OPINIONS

  • @deadfr0g
    @deadfr0g Před 2 měsíci +8

    Thank you for your commitment to sound methodology in research. These results are indisputable, and you are a true scholar.

  • @I.Love.Daichi
    @I.Love.Daichi Před 2 měsíci +3

    Fun tier list!
    Best video I've watched in quite some time in that it's the only one in the past several months that I've not skipped forward.

    • @Ohokk0
      @Ohokk0 Před 2 měsíci

      holy shit $150??

    • @Ohokk0
      @Ohokk0 Před 2 měsíci

      nvm that's ntd ignore me

  • @ThePhysicalReaction
    @ThePhysicalReaction Před 2 měsíci +7

    I loved MKx / mkXL as well. It brought be back into the franchise.
    The pace was so aggressive and nutty. Even newer players could pick it up and go crazy against each other.

  • @mercilessbaker
    @mercilessbaker Před 2 měsíci +98

    Nah to do this in person is too much effort, gotta flag people down and correct them and explain the rules every time, what a champ! Enjoyed seeing how happy everyone was talking about their favorite fighting game, very wholesome.

    • @zanpakutoman4225
      @zanpakutoman4225 Před 2 měsíci +3

      It might've been easier if he just had an art board and drew 5 empty squares next to each tier, and printed out the box art of different games. He would've had to pick out the games and you wouldn't get wild picks like SFxT and Cross Tag Battle. But, it definitely would've saved some hassle.
      EDIT: As soon as I commented this, I saw Justin's public OP character tier list video.

    • @sultanmuwaffaq6173
      @sultanmuwaffaq6173 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@zanpakutoman4225 i mean the voters could bring those game down a tier or two if they don't agree with it but i guess the hate for NRS games is just stronger 🤣

  • @Applebomb8D
    @Applebomb8D Před 2 měsíci +4

    I love this video so much man! Always good to be reminded how chill and friendly the fgc community can be

  • @jazactane
    @jazactane Před 2 měsíci +2

    Mate just came across this - great way to do a list

  • @TNTGamingonline
    @TNTGamingonline Před 16 dny

    This was a great video. I love fighting games and everyone had a good take.

  • @JusRed48
    @JusRed48 Před 2 měsíci +12

    I really like the format of doing a community tier list like this where people can add any stuff and then eventually can just switch places of two games.

  • @ApacheJay156
    @ApacheJay156 Před 2 měsíci +52

    I agree with the guy who said MK2. Even if it's not as deep as modern games, if you experienced it, it was a social phenomenon that has no equal in the modern era of online battles. To be at the arcade with 20 other guys around the machine doing a fatality that you learned about on usenet was just an experience that no one in the later generations can even understand.
    Also soul calibur 2 was great for similar reasons, but it also had the depth that MK lacked.

    • @victorvenable587
      @victorvenable587 Před měsícem +2

      I think out of the older MK games, that was the game. And if you go to an arcade, you're most likely are going to see a MK2 machine before you'll see a 3, Ultimate 3, and heck, the first one.
      Agree with SC2 as well.

    • @zekarou7831
      @zekarou7831 Před 14 dny +1

      MK2 is very special for me as well, and it's the best MK.. IMO. I always come back to it. Even better now that somebody made a MUGEN of MK2 called *"MK II remix".* They take everything best from the original and enhanced it. It's super awesome. I'm in love with that game and haven't touch any other fighting games for months now. 🙂

    • @OutNAbout415
      @OutNAbout415 Před 2 dny +2

      Thank goodness i grew up in this era. I was blown away and even the first Tekken on ps1.

  • @PinkalPeaches
    @PinkalPeaches Před 2 měsíci +3

    lmao, I love Breakers Revenge but it actually secretly does have a XFactor style comeback mechanism. You do more damage at low health and when you haven't gotten a hit in. You even get damage and defense buffs for losing rounds and games.

  • @JakeKatsune
    @JakeKatsune Před měsícem

    This was a great video 💜… Surprised that no one even mentioned Street fighter 2, mk9, or blazblue cf… there’s too many to name tbh but still surprised no one said those lol

  • @maxdark9462
    @maxdark9462 Před 2 měsíci +172

    Soul Calibur 2 is underrated as fuck, this game is peak 3D fighting

    • @spiffythealien
      @spiffythealien Před 2 měsíci +16

      Peak fighting, period. FGC says they love SCII *more* than SC on the Dreamcast, the fighting game that was seriously considered for GotY (not fighting game of the year, just GotY, period) when it's immediate competition was VF3, Tekken 3 and SFIII3S, but they always pretend it's a 'lesser' Tekken even though it controls better and is easier to learn despite the characters having *more* moves than Tekken characters (over half the cast of SCVI had more moves than T7 King). It's sad.

    • @ginomartell4237
      @ginomartell4237 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Facts

    • @gameclips5734
      @gameclips5734 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@spiffythealien SC3 is objectively better than 2 imo, but 2 was my first SC game so I love it too.

    • @christianinfante8657
      @christianinfante8657 Před 2 měsíci

      That's not how you spell tekken

    • @CloudStrifeZX
      @CloudStrifeZX Před 2 měsíci

      agree, that game was and still is awesome

  • @platinopiano
    @platinopiano Před 2 měsíci +4

    this video had me rolling, would love to see more of these

  • @UncleNemmy
    @UncleNemmy Před měsícem +1

    I want to see something like this for every game genre

  • @victorvenable587
    @victorvenable587 Před měsícem +2

    Loved hearing the responses!
    Garou on the bottom?? Dang.
    If I were to pick, KOF 98 UM (97 is awesome, but I think 98 covers all the bases), and even though Alpha 2 is my favorite of the Alphas, Alpha 3 is awesome. I love Third Strike, but Alpha 3's a whole package.
    We all good different tastes and I think that's what makes it cool.

  • @snakeoftalins2805
    @snakeoftalins2805 Před 2 měsíci +182

    Can’t believe I didn’t recognize you! I’m the guy in the orange shirt that picked SF6. Great content as always.

  • @envgaming
    @envgaming Před 2 měsíci +5

    I don't play or watch fighting games but I saw this on Twitter and this is a super cool video. However Diaphone, I need your personal tier list IMMEDIATELY for comparison

  • @DB-cm4lf
    @DB-cm4lf Před 3 dny +1

    *dude plays devil's advocate for 18 min straight* "i dont make the rules" 😂

  • @LogicIsSound
    @LogicIsSound Před 2 měsíci +6

    The golden era of fighting games was really CVS2 and MVC2 out at the same time. Nothing will ever compare...

  • @zarante5640
    @zarante5640 Před 2 měsíci +82

    kinda crazy that no one brought up USF4. Felt like that is very loved nowadays and went on forever during its time

    • @EliosMoonElios
      @EliosMoonElios Před 2 měsíci +1

      It was too hard at competitive level, so PRos don't enjoy it that much.

    • @JimmySlippit
      @JimmySlippit Před 2 měsíci +11

      that and no mention of SF2 (unless I missed it) is just baffling, those were the defining fighting games of their era
      Shout outs to the guy who said Breakers Revenge tho

    • @gameclips5734
      @gameclips5734 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@JimmySlippit SF2 has not aged well

    • @GAMBOLLL81
      @GAMBOLLL81 Před 2 měsíci

      yun broke the game

    • @dznutskong
      @dznutskong Před 2 měsíci

      I'm not too involved in this community but maybe it's one of those games that most people enjoy, but few would call their #1 favorite?

  • @Comrade-Broski
    @Comrade-Broski Před 2 měsíci +46

    Street Fighter EX or Bloody Roar not being there hurt me a bit. Also no Virtua Fighter, damn shame.

    • @KaosuAiden
      @KaosuAiden Před 2 měsíci

      Truuuuueeeee

    • @jaykay3512
      @jaykay3512 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Oh true EX2 at arcades was the experience for sure.

    • @user-wc3gi8zp7o
      @user-wc3gi8zp7o Před 2 měsíci +7

      I spent more hours of my life playing Virtua Fighter 4 on the PS2 than any other fighting game

    • @philgamer9499
      @philgamer9499 Před 2 měsíci

      their trash tier that's why

    • @MEGASTRIX
      @MEGASTRIX Před 2 měsíci +1

      Bloody roar 2 was so goated. It was like the tekken 5 of the series where they stuck to the formula mostly after it.

  • @jakal911
    @jakal911 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Only wish I also saw SSF2T and Alpha 3 on this list.

  • @zebrasarenothorses
    @zebrasarenothorses Před 2 měsíci +10

    Man, why wasn't UMK3 (Arcade) mentioned?
    Very happy MK II was mentioned - MK 1 was revolutionary and the sequel took that to new heights and UMK3 took 2 to even newer heights.
    This was a fun video to watch, thanks for the upload!

  • @ultimateman55
    @ultimateman55 Před 2 měsíci +120

    Respect to the older guy shouting out MK2 that shit was absolute god tier when it released. One of the best presentations ever, especially in the sound department.

    • @hjblacdes61
      @hjblacdes61 Před 2 měsíci +9

      MK3 was better

    • @StriderShadow
      @StriderShadow Před 2 měsíci +11

      But the gameplay aged like milk at the top level. It is just Jax vs Mileena spamming their broken moves. (I love MK2 on a casual level)

    • @EliosMoonElios
      @EliosMoonElios Před 2 měsíci +3

      You are talking from nostalgia, the gameplay was normal and the tier list was bullshit.

    • @mazystarr
      @mazystarr Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@StriderShadow at very high level play, jax held up but top had to be kung Lao hands down for easy full life touches. I don't even think mileena was in the convo

    • @mazystarr
      @mazystarr Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@hjblacdes61 mk3u is the goated mk period. People still playing online and running tournaments

  • @eyekahnzuya
    @eyekahnzuya Před 2 měsíci +98

    My goat is SF4. It single handedly brought arcades back for the time being and helped with the transition to home consoles immensely. Not to mention, it literally saved EVO. Without that game, EVO wouldn’t be a thing anymore. (HM’s: MVC2, UMVC3 & SF3S)

    • @ginomartell4237
      @ginomartell4237 Před 2 měsíci +6

      I still rock SF4 with die hard fans 💯✊🏾

    • @PowerRobMusic
      @PowerRobMusic Před 2 měsíci +1

      My all time favorite fighting game, by far

    • @GAMERGUYXL
      @GAMERGUYXL Před 2 měsíci +3

      Same. As much as i like SF6, I really wish I could find people to play 4 with.

    • @BrainSuspendedInFluid
      @BrainSuspendedInFluid Před 2 měsíci +2

      Sf4 ranked on xbox was so much fun

    • @SCORP1ONF1RE
      @SCORP1ONF1RE Před měsícem +1

      SF4 is GOAT

  • @0thers1d3
    @0thers1d3 Před 18 dny

    What a fun video. Genius idea!

  • @Xenuen
    @Xenuen Před měsícem +3

    Tekken 8, Killer instinct, smash bros ultimate, SC3, DoA5 last round, MvC2, Rival schools, Project Justice and Bashido blade.

  • @zeywop
    @zeywop Před 2 měsíci +5

    good ass vidoe dia, making ppl switch the games was a sick way to keep it fun.
    n damn cant believe no one brought up plus r, virtua fighter 5, skullgirls or melty...

  • @madakage
    @madakage Před 2 měsíci +150

    melty blood music but no melty blood on tier list

    • @sefflikejeff1917
      @sefflikejeff1917 Před 2 měsíci +10

      Melty Blood OST > Melty Blood (video game)

    • @axis8396
      @axis8396 Před 2 měsíci +28

      MBAACC is definitely one of my favorites, incredibly fun game

    • @AW-ci9yn
      @AW-ci9yn Před 2 měsíci +5

      Melty Blood is trash. Doesn't even deserve to be on the list.

    • @xOmniCloudx
      @xOmniCloudx Před 2 měsíci +3

      Niche game, nobody cares about it like that

    • @rasha1a
      @rasha1a Před 2 měsíci +12

      MBAACC brought in some real gamers to the fgc, it’ll never get the respect it deserves from any modern chump gamers

  • @Healthy_Toki
    @Healthy_Toki Před 2 měsíci

    Good video but hey, get a microphone holder for your wireless microphones, it just looks way better on camera to have a reporter style stick

  • @josesuarez1711
    @josesuarez1711 Před měsícem

    I've always liked DOA and its really underated. Having a counter system that can break your combo its a game changer for me. Maybe the martial artist in me make me thing that way since in a fight i can graple your punch or kick.

  • @OnlyBadSalmon
    @OnlyBadSalmon Před 2 měsíci +31

    J wong with the realest take to open the video

  • @DarriusWilder7
    @DarriusWilder7 Před 2 měsíci +177

    Diaphone has legs?

  • @paradigm_sh1ft
    @paradigm_sh1ft Před měsícem +4

    I'm glad Melee made it onto the list. I feel like a lot of traditional fighting game players sleep on it. Easy GOAT for me.

  • @Mrholysymbol
    @Mrholysymbol Před 2 měsíci +3

    I cannot believe there wasn't a single under night homie to save the day, no killer instinct either which should be a crime

  • @dragonkamran
    @dragonkamran Před 2 měsíci +87

    I dunno why he got surprised to hear MK2. It's the Tekken 3 or SF2 of MK.

    • @holden6104
      @holden6104 Před 2 měsíci +2

      But where's Tekken 3?

    • @shaynehughes6645
      @shaynehughes6645 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Oh no it ain't, MK1 is the classic and UMK3 is the good one. 2 and base 3 are perfectly forgettable.

    • @Freefall347
      @Freefall347 Před 2 měsíci

      @@shaynehughes6645 I think MKII gets remembered because it really was an enormous step up for the time. Not only did it look way better and have more moves, levels, and characters in general, but it introduced Kitana, Mileena, and Shao Kahn, which was pretty huge. Expanded the lore a decent bit compared to the first one. I'd agree UMKIII is better in basically every way, but MKII was pretty amazing when it first came out.

    • @randyroo2
      @randyroo2 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Got to be 3 for MK. Fatalities, pit fatalities,, animality, babality, friendship, and if you're playing ultimate or trilogy brutalities

    • @Freefall347
      @Freefall347 Před 2 měsíci

      @@randyroo2 just to point out, MKII was the one that introduced friendships and babalities. It also had arena fatalities, although MK1 still started that with the spike pit.

  • @Thauangg01
    @Thauangg01 Před 2 měsíci +34

    If this happen in South America, KOF2002 would be the goat for sure

    • @jfry3276
      @jfry3276 Před 2 měsíci +6

      KOF98 is the GOAT… KOF2K2 is after.

    • @Enemigodelan695
      @Enemigodelan695 Před 2 měsíci +1

      De hecho México es el país "Kofero".
      Argentina, Paraguay y Uruguay el más popular es Mortal Kombat (Scorpion tomando "Mate" es parte de la cultura de internet argentino)
      Chile Mk y Smash
      Bolivia Tekken
      Brasil Street fighter
      Peru Kof - Tekken
      Colombia - Guilty Gear
      Ecuador - Venezuela = ????

    • @Labotohs
      @Labotohs Před 2 měsíci

      True, it is always 98 or 2002 here, but it is also something I’ll never agree with as 02 is basically a great roster (not going into balance) accompanied by some of the worst presentation ever made, with some of the worst looking stages and hud in the series and a weak ost.
      Was pretty happy with seeing 97 being high ranked for most of the video though.

    • @Labotohs
      @Labotohs Před 2 měsíci

      @@Enemigodelan695 KoF and the vs series were by far the most popular fighting games in Brazil post sf2 era. You could find MvC and KoF 96~98 in random bars.

    • @SAWTHISRIGHT
      @SAWTHISRIGHT Před 2 měsíci +1

      Even in Africa I agree with you on that part a childhood with KOF2002 is incomplete

  • @mikescorpio13
    @mikescorpio13 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Killer Instinct 1 was the best time to be an arcade fanatic and Virtua Fighter 2 was something to experience when it came out as well.

  • @RuroKen0823
    @RuroKen0823 Před 2 měsíci

    Was so entertaining to watch.

  • @downrightfiercerare1565
    @downrightfiercerare1565 Před 2 měsíci +19

    Garou being trash tier is insulting

  • @kittenhooker
    @kittenhooker Před 2 měsíci +2

    Love this kind of content ❤

  • @andrezz2312
    @andrezz2312 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Dope ass video bro, you are a natural, keep them comming

  • @Akholyte
    @Akholyte Před 2 měsíci +1

    Justin's reactions to the final list were so funny 😭

  • @BungleTech
    @BungleTech Před 2 měsíci

    Damn. This was super fun!

  • @davidspingler6337
    @davidspingler6337 Před 2 měsíci +533

    “NRS games are always a trash tier” the truth hurts 😂

    • @jameswebber1951
      @jameswebber1951 Před 2 měsíci +37

      As a MK fan since I was a kid, it really is true in terms of competitive fighting games. MK will always be just a fun fighting game for me and then as a kid, I always just enjoyed the lore especially when NRS introduced their open world konquest mode in Deception.
      MK9 was awesome because you saw the return of 2D in the series but the game was highly broken and so was MKX. It’s like people forget how many people hated MKX when it was a thing.
      My favorite MK is the new one. I think in terms of mechanics, it’s the best MK they’ve released and I know a lot of people will disagree but I’ve been there and watched the game and scene develop for awhile. MK and really NRS games in general have never had longevity been incredibly successful in the competitive scene. They’ve always just done really good with sales because of the casual fan getting the game for nostalgia or flash.

    • @davidspingler6337
      @davidspingler6337 Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@jameswebber1951 yeah, well I mean, I’ve been playing MK since the very first one in arcades, too, and the new one is the one that finally completely lost me altogether after 30 years of being a casual MK fan - but it’s always been the redheaded stepchild series of the mainstream FGC competitive scene even at its most active and is basically just a nostalgic guilty pleasure for me as a fighting game. With so many other actually good to great fighting games out right now, I have zero interest in anything NRS related for the time being 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @pittykitty6503
      @pittykitty6503 Před 2 měsíci +29

      MKX was one of the greatest games but everything else after that was and still is trash

    • @hewoguys2506
      @hewoguys2506 Před 2 měsíci +8

      nar mkx was hard still

    • @sobornes239
      @sobornes239 Před 2 měsíci +16

      Biased usual Capcom opinion. Also NRS doesn't need the FGC at all, contrary to SF games...

  • @retsu3993
    @retsu3993 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Great video, but damn I wish I was there to add "Tatsunoko vs Capcom" in goated. Like how you got everyone's opinion on why also. It really helps.

  • @14GoOdLiFe
    @14GoOdLiFe Před 2 měsíci

    Really like the weight put into nostalgy :')

  • @domymbd
    @domymbd Před 2 měsíci +3

    No Killer Instinct? The 1994 arcade cabinet is the best fighting game ever made to me.

  • @Grim0666
    @Grim0666 Před 2 měsíci +106

    My vote for the GOAT is Killer Instinct 2013. I love it because you constantly are using your brain even on defense when in a combo for the combo breaker meta. Instinct mode was also fun and unique per character. There is basically 0 down time in a match and I love it for that.

    • @cymtastique
      @cymtastique Před 2 měsíci +6

      I second your vote.

    • @caan_sensei4853
      @caan_sensei4853 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Yeah KI has everything, fun, skill, design, mechanics, music… the ultimate FGC GOAT!

    • @majoraxx2427
      @majoraxx2427 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Incredible game

    • @Grim0666
      @Grim0666 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@caan_sensei4853 I can't believe I forgot to mention the music, good lord the music is godlike! But no other game gives me the meta satisfaction of the counter breaker reads (and shadow counters) , GGST was the closet modern game with RC and Bursts but it's just not the same, the announcer to so hype too!

    • @ivaerz4977
      @ivaerz4977 Před 2 měsíci

      Can any one explain if killer Instinct is so great why it disappeared and if MK is so bad why its always the best selling fighting game?

  • @Mindcry7181
    @Mindcry7181 Před 2 měsíci +25

    BRUH no one said BLAZBLUE but blazblue tag!? WTF

  • @dustylee21
    @dustylee21 Před 2 měsíci +25

    Ain’t no way homie tried to say MK1 was best fighting game 💀

  • @AqoCyrale
    @AqoCyrale Před 2 měsíci +1

    what about melty blood? immaterial and missing power? vanguard princess? samurai shodown?
    would love to see you do more poverty fighter content diaphone :)

  • @shinjoni
    @shinjoni Před 2 měsíci +8

    Bro I stand by KOF15 being godlike, loved this video

  • @ghostlycuddles8116
    @ghostlycuddles8116 Před 2 měsíci +57

    BBTAG being on the list but not central fiction actually is so upsetting.

    • @zakils6844
      @zakils6844 Před 2 měsíci +5

      yea thats absolutely crazy central fiction is an infinitely better game

    • @Cosmopaladin
      @Cosmopaladin Před 2 měsíci

      As true as that is BBTag has a really nice niche. It's a really easy to get into tag team fighter for new players. I got so many people to start playing fighting games in general by playing BBTag with them. Also it has another kind of niche in that there aren't that many modern tag team games that are fun to just pickup, and play with people that are decent at other fighting games, but don't really have a tag team game they are good at. I really like BBTag even though it's got it's issues for sure. @@zakils6844

    • @steampunk1435
      @steampunk1435 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I know right. Also nobody showing love for my GOAT GGXrd

  • @teamcolbourne8593
    @teamcolbourne8593 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Bloody Roar series didn’t even get mentioned 😢

  • @asyetundetermined
    @asyetundetermined Před 2 měsíci +4

    No shade meant at all, but this is truly an interesting mix of humans.

  • @damsen978
    @damsen978 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Justin not being worried about having strong opinions is what i commend the most about this video.

  • @coolfish420
    @coolfish420 Před 2 měsíci +4

    2:14 my man
    great editing Diaphone! Looks really good

  • @ShinRyojin
    @ShinRyojin Před 2 měsíci

    Bro was the first one to mention Garou and is rocking a Hey Arnold sweater. Legend, right there.

  • @adrianslusher7450
    @adrianslusher7450 Před měsícem

    Great video ❤

  • @kattoro3440
    @kattoro3440 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Thank you for giving me the most painful experience I have ever enjoyed. Didn't know this emotion existed.

  • @EricSamaNYC
    @EricSamaNYC Před 2 měsíci +75

    Respect to the guy that said Street Fighter x Tekken, I wanted that game to work so badly but damn it dropped the ball 😭😭😭😭

    • @Kool212
      @Kool212 Před 2 měsíci +4

      If there was a version without the gems I would agree,

  • @kingbaboon1145
    @kingbaboon1145 Před 11 dny

    Fun video!

  • @bigjc5546
    @bigjc5546 Před 2 měsíci +105

    fighterz in goat is a crime

    • @damiencardona2474
      @damiencardona2474 Před 2 měsíci +34

      Fighterz is goated they just left that game to catch dust

    • @throwaway450
      @throwaway450 Před 2 měsíci +9

      ​@@damiencardona2474it can't be the goat because not everyone likes weeb shit. At least in Tekken you can be a bear. No games based on mid shonen should be considered GOAT.

    • @librarygary1618
      @librarygary1618 Před 2 měsíci +77

      ​@@throwaway450unbelievably poor attempt at trolling 🤡

    • @Sansturtle
      @Sansturtle Před 2 měsíci +13

      Putting smash over fighterz is a crime

    • @Idkwgo1
      @Idkwgo1 Před 2 měsíci +6

      ​@throwaway450 Bait use to be believable

  • @iamprsn9
    @iamprsn9 Před 2 měsíci +5

    An unhinged list, but hilarious video lol

  • @malefictopcat
    @malefictopcat Před měsícem

    I'm a Dead or Alive 5 lover, I'd say that's my favorite since the movement is a lot smoother as a 3d fighter, the fights are a lot more cinematic than most 3D fighters out there with environment interactions and stages of different sizes and terrain, plus the combos are not a walk in the park to learn.

  • @YamaTora
    @YamaTora Před 2 měsíci

    Justin being the voice of reason at the end 😂

  • @jcramirez77
    @jcramirez77 Před 2 měsíci +28

    Sf4 not being on the list is wild! lol

  • @GamingMailbox
    @GamingMailbox Před 2 měsíci +22

    Tekken 5, MvC2, Third Strike, KOF 13, Bloody Roar all goats. Surprised there was only one Tekken game

    • @tjjavier
      @tjjavier Před 2 měsíci +6

      Now that you mention it, yeah! At least have Tekken 3 on there too!

    • @lolcreloux
      @lolcreloux Před měsícem +2

      I was about to say, where the hell is Bloody roar or Rival schools? Also would put Tekken 3 up there as it was a top dog back in the days.

    • @sexpistols2743
      @sexpistols2743 Před měsícem

      ​@@lolcreloux yep, should've added atleast one bloody roar title

    • @aaroncarr2628
      @aaroncarr2628 Před 17 dny

      Bloody Roar yeah!!!

  • @NickZoOoR
    @NickZoOoR Před 6 dny

    Street Fighter IV has surely got to be on this list somewhere, the game was hugeee when it came out and it was also a hell of a game too, got so many people into fighting games at the time and brought about a new generation of fighting game fans and top players

  • @silverfox97480
    @silverfox97480 Před 2 měsíci

    KOF 97 also is my favourite as it was the first KOF i've discovered at the arcade stand at the local fair. Also it was the first KOF where you could do the cheat code to play with the Orochi characters. Gotta love orochi Iori and Leona!