How to Support in Guild Wars 2 PvP - Roles and Rotations Guide
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Support is an important role in GW2 PvP and learning where to rotate to be optimal can take difficult decisions. This guide will show how to build and rotate as a support and some common mistakes that players make as a support.
UPDATE Supports will no longer be able to use Menders amulet, so sage or avatar are the next best thing. Also transference sigils will be necessary.
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Firebrand Support
Avatar Speed Rune
Mace/Shield Transference/Cleansing
Staff Energy/Transference
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Tempest Support
Sage Traveler Rune
Dagger/Focus Energy/Transference
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Scrapper Support
Sage Herald Rune
Pistol/Shield Transference/Cleansing
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Daredevil Support
Avatar Mesmer Rune
Dagger/Pistol Absorption/Transference
Shortbow Energy/Cleansing
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How to Carry in PvP - • How to Carry in Guild ...
0:00 - What Is Rotation?
1:10 - General Roles and Matchups
6:37 - Support's Role and Priorities
12:37 - How to Build for Support
15:40 - Firebrand Support Build
21:00 - Firebrand Commentary
33:03 - Tempest Support Build
39:48 - Tempest Commentary
53:02 - Scrapper Support Build
59:25 - Scrapper Commentary
1:09:27 - Daredevil Support Build
1:14:10 - Daredevil Commentary
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vallun how are you pumping out these videos damn im impressed
Great stuff as always. I'm glad to see you proving the fundamentals with the more interesting supports and not spellbreaker lol
it was a tough call but i have a whole graph to try to show the most classes in the most roles, warrior got the short end of the stick here but i definitely wouldve had them if it were 5 examples
New to gw2, first dont know why more people are playing this great game. Second good to hear that all classes can play support. Going to be fun trying to "find" the support builds and play them. So many cool classes, hard to choose one.
I’ve been looking for a video like this for weeks cause I love support but need to work on my rotating. Thankyou!
I just started trying out aura-tempest and it's playstyle is so much in contrast to my thiefs roaming in PvP. Really happy for this video! :)
I am scared that you stop doing these videos once you have finished all roles because i mostly enjoy the gameplay commentarys anyway pls do more of those with all classes i love weaver for example but you only have one fire weaver pvp commentary WE NEED MORE OF THOSE and of any other class as well :)
I wrote you a year ago that you should focus more on Gameplay Commentaries and you did and i am starting to see the resonance you really made a name for "the guild wars 2 pvp tutor" because there are sadly still too few of people that upload high quality commentaries like you so keep up the good work you are dominating your branche with that niche glad to see you rise like you should. Much love from germany and sorry for my bad english
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thanks for the feedback im always listening and getting ideas of what people ask and how much
@@Vallun feedback - thanks to your video, now every team is full of people who constantly run to the far point in any situation, and the worst thing is that they are absolutely sure that they are doing the right thing, because "the video said to do it this way", this is the result of your efforts, your videos only hurt the game .
@@user-ib9ry8we9x if thats what you or anyone got from this video then maybe literacy is your first concern instead of winning in pvp
Not gonna lie, went here hoping for an "Every Class as a Support Video" and did not leave disappointed, even tho i watched the whole thing waiting for the warrior guide, that never came up, to come up ^^
Thanks for showing love to us support mains
love the class RP :D great video
Your video are really dope man :)
oh man... So i was on hiatus playing GW2 for 8 years and now that I'm back....i am overwhelmed with all these info lol Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I'll definitely get back at this for reference:) At somepoint I'll do pvp or WvW. But knowing my situation at the moment... I'll stick to PVE for now haha
Thanks , easy explained )
Scrapper seems like an awesome support from what i've seen playing and also here. I've never tried supp so i'm interested in guard or engi for that role.
Great vid, but i do take s/d for support thief, in a teamfight spamming 2, gets you 2 teleports, which means 2 heals, while condi cleansing and stuff and make up for other things through utilities, also sword 2 costs less initiative than d/p 3
hey man just want to say that ive heard nothing at all of what u said from start to end because of the final fantasy music in the background xD
very very nice
I've wanted to get into pvp again, but the current Meta has felt to foreign, compared to the post launch meta that I played in last time. Thank you!
Awesome I do thanks! No revenant support?
What's your opinion on the support spellbreaker? It has been fun, but I haven't felt as useful as when I play support guard or tempest.
hi i wanna know your opinion on support chrono? im playint it time byt time and its good in some scenarios
Great video, as always. What do you think about the blood scourge support? Wondering if the reason why it's not in this video is because it gives too little support... xP
i prefer to showcase other builds
Hey Vallun! Thank you so much for putting an effort on making this guide. I just started getting into pvp and trying to learn support build. I been using Shouts core Guardian. What do you prefer more on support Firebrand or Core? Thank you
core is better at the moment but for the sake of this video it shows a lot more decision to use firebrand making because the core build is just way easier
@@Vallun Thank you so much. More power to your content and streams. I`ll continue using core guardian and maybe try to use firebrand once I`m comfortable on support role
god this makes me want to play guild wars again
What I've been trying on FB is getting out my tomes way too early and slowly progress towards getting them out at the right moment, because of the "dead with CDs up" situation.
"Attack is the best defence"
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How didn't I find this earlier
good gude for support, can u make catch bot in pvp, pls, i stuck like 2 bot but cant screen recording
At 47:00, how did you do that quick turn around to do a backwards Burning Speed without moving your camera?
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Great video man! I'm just jumping in to GW2, coming from playing Holy Paladin in Wow. I'm used to large single target burst heals and extreme survivability. I love sticking like glue to a DPS and making people furious that they just can't down me or my teammate. I thought Guardian might be the proverbial "paladin" build but I'm seeing there's not a lot of direct heals like that in this game. I'm wondering if there's any build you'd recommend that is similar to that play style at all? I was looking at potentially the Druid but I don't see it mentioned with pvp much in recent months. I also noticed on your "Celestial Paladin" build you went with a core Guardian build instead of the Firebrand. What are your thoughts there and what would you recommend for someone looking for this play style I'm kinda looking for. Thanks for all the great content, always look forward to more of your stuff!
I guess Warriors don't really have a place in PvP (even WvW)? I mean yeah, you can always use them, or you can use their 1 trick (bubble in WvW), but overall...meh.
I am trying to find my new main, I played GW2 years ago and I am kinda coming back, so many things have changed for me (Especs, previous Balance patches).
I am mainly interested in PvP and WvW so watching these videos is a really good source of info, even more cuz I don't know who to play, so anything that can give me a clearer picture of how certain especs are played could help me find a new main profession to play.
I do think that Duelist could be a role I would like to play. I don't like to be squishy but I do want to do dmg. I am waiting a video about them :)
the duelist video is coming right up and don't worry warriors definitely have a place there :)
A good support is the true hypercarry in any game, change my mind! =D
May i ask where to get the Mender Amulet from? Just started playing GW2 again and i´m kinda confused about not having that one available. Thanks in advance if someone even replies^^
Great content btw and much love
its avatar amulet now
Hey Vallun, I am newer to the game (2-3 weeks) and im playing druid. I like druid alot but ive searched your channel and only found one video of druid so far and that was WvW condi druid. i was wondering if you could tell me more about druid healing and builds maybe? i'd appreciate it alot and any tips or pointers could help too. i mostly do WvW with others and i support them. right now im running a glyph build, i'd run spirits but they die too often and its too much moving for PvP. so any builds (preferably a glyph build) would be awesome. Thanks!
druids get most of their healing from celestial avatar and spamming the 3 and 4 in there. Youll want to have as much CA generation as possible which means lots of small heals from regeneration duration, but in WvW that usually gets overwritten sometimes by other supports. You can try to get your CA access from beast mastery trait that heals your pet over time (pet healing also gives you CA) and the nature magic trait that gives regeneration on your warhorn 5 for the most access to Celestial Avatar which is where most of your support comes from. Glyphs are nice too and you can add those in as you see fit.
@@Vallun thats a good idea, running beast mastery trait. i was running skirmishing for quick draw for celestial form but i feel its very cluttered to use it in WvW. very inconsistent. i am using Axe/Warhorn though so ty for that confirmation. glyphs are viable? or not at all do you think? and from what i can tell druid is a very dead class.
So would scrapper be the better of them for someone wanting to pvp and go in as support since it seems to be able to do something good no matter what button you press?
not really, scrapper has so many buttons and most of them do not do something good, guardian is the best to go in as at the start, but the core version
@@Vallun aaight thanks
Which role will be next?
DPS > Duelist > Roamer
there is any chanse to play core thief d/d in pvp?
check out my "assassin" vid
No scourge in this sup section ?
revenant support isn't good? :(
no room for spellbreaker as support class?
there is, but for the purposes of teaching how to support I feel other classes were more engaging
@Vallun Proof me please wrong, but in order to have support work, you need longer fights. There is so much burst in this game, that more dmg will destry any support comp. The only thing that really breaks pure DMG is CC.
as i said teammates who kite and use terrain will gain more benefit from support because they dont instantly die so they live long enough for the support to happen. Still you want your teammates to do damage so they shouldnt also be running tanky builds to get value from your sustain. In other words your teammates have to be worth supporting. Hard mitigation can come from firebrand moreso than any other support if you want to prevent burst damage. CC is nice as well but situational.
no druid?
What does "peel" mean?
Mostly when you try to split their attention. If you're stacked up with an ally on a point it's easy for them to drop AOE on the point. If you own the point or want to contest it in say, a 2v2. Ideally you would have one person on the point and one "peel" to pull their attention away, then when the person on the point gets low or is out of cd, you would switch.
think of it like an orange peel, the fruit inside is your teammate and the outer skin is the enemy who are attacking them. You peel them off making your team mate more free to do what they want and less likely to get pressured and die
This support thief looks very funny
ignore tanks who just sit on the point and never die, and.. duelists? what the hell? you mean a better roamer
I dont have the amulet somehow
no one does its been removed, use avatar
@@Vallun ok thank you :)
Beside of other builds I'm playing core guard as Support. Lightly different from metabuild.com. More Focus on shouts. Without the sigill and 1-2 other things I changed. For me works better...it's enjoyable and golden and btw. an acceptable bunker too, but you need experienced and chilled Players in your team. I enter often in platdivision, but cant stay long there, bad matchmaking, to many new players, salty afk's and so on (another story).
The thing what I wanted to say, I noticed you aren't focused hard in this Video (the part as heal Fb I only watched). My experience is that, when enemy team notice you play Support Guard, you will become Focus No.1. In every situation...ALWAYS!!! They even leave the other Focus, when you enter in teamfights or don't care to hold their point. Sometimes it feels like the enemy Player tries to troll you. It becomes a Witch-hunt. And if you are unlucky, your Team doesn't help you and use the pressure free situation to cap the point, to loose it again in few moments later in outnumbered situation while you are lying dead on the ground.
You can hear I passed many hard times. So because I am wondering how you play it free in many situations without pressure on you. I mean really hard pressure 3v1 or 4v1. Or did you just sort out the right matches for this video???
Another thing what I wanted to say is, that I hope the pvp community will appreciate there are ppl playing Support builds. The general oppinion is very toxic. High burst , fast damage and cc spaming are the only thing what counts .They underestimate the Potential and probably don't know how to play with a supporter in a team. I remember old days of GW2, where a Healguard was welcome in pvp matches and not be flamed to playing one...it's really sad. So I am glad to see that a "celebrity Player" keep Support Builds alive and show alternatives playstyles.
core guard is definitely a more tanky option that is harder to focus than firebrand, but firebrand gives more utility so i prefer it, and yes the specific video for the firebrand was more to show about how roles can be awkward, if you want a match that shows more about kiting then i would watch the scrapper and tempest match which tests the supporting capabilities moreso than the rotational capabilities.
2nd
People say support scrapper is a meme when i asked about it in pvp discords pepe hands :(
heal me UwU
Nice, support Thief!
18k looks really few hp
the scrapper build is really bad in pvp