Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S5:E3
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Welcome to Fix or Flop! We're up to Season 5, Episode 3. This viewer's gaming PC overheats! Can it be fixed? By the way, if you live in the Orlando, FL area and have an issue with your PC, apply to have it (possibly) fixed for free today! gregsalazar.com/fix-or-flop
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Thanks again Greg for fixing the system for me. It’s been running amazing and I’ve been playing for hours and no crashing.
U are the owner of this system
@@Animeop-1519 yeah unfortunately lmao
@@Adonyz1005 Put a second stick of ram in it. Believe me: Dual Channel will make a big difference. ; )
@@nordlicht1881 already did lol running 2 sticks of 16gb now for a total of 32gb it’s been way better
YES, please upgrade to 16gb of decent DDR4. Just don't waste money on anything faster than 2666, as that mobo won't do any clocking past that and won't do any XMP profiling. You'll notice a big difference just upgrading RAM@@nordlicht1881
That rear I/O was just depressing to look at.
😂
Yeah that I/O made me laugh
Easily the worst rear I/O I've ever seen. I'd suggest a powered USB hub. I would say that Intel boards a few years ago were very lacking in USB compared to AMD, they seem to have fixed that recently.
I've seen laptops with way more ports than this motherboard.
I think the biggest peformance hit comes from the single stick of RAM. The owner should definitely upgrade that ASAP.
I actually think Greg did him a huge service by not touching the platform and GPU. He set him up (almost) perfectly for a newer CPU, MoBo, RAM (7800X3D+AM5 MoBo +32gb@6000 all for 500 ar microcenter) and GPU upgrade later this year when the new gen arrives. He can even wait for Zen5 for a CPU.
If it were me, I'd be happier with this than if he touched the platform, instead. That MoBo is one of the saddest I've seen in a long time...
Don't think the issue comes from the ram running on a single stick, but rather the speed of it. It looks incredibly cheap, wouldn't even add another stick, just replace the whole damn thing 😂
@@PexceIit's probably just some value RAM of some sort, it doesn't look fancy but works just as well as other RAM sticks
@@BarAlexC yeah I agree... or even an extra stick from ebay for a very cheap upgrade to hold him over
Luckily Intel is much less picky about RAM than AMD. If the dude wants to upgrade it in the future he can.
Love your videos. My only advice as a viewer of your content for some time, try not to keep Apologizing all the time for not upgrading or changing something for someone. You already do ALOT for viewers if we are being honest compared to so many other tech youtubers I follow. The fact that you even do small upgrades for someone like a PC case, PSU, Fans, or w/e else is already going a LONG way. Appreciate your videos! keep up the good work
Calm down, bro. This is a man running a business and these videos are made to turn a profit through the comp'd products he's using, advertising and monetization of the video itself. Even though the submitters aren't paying him directly, he's not running a charity. The motivation to give things away isn't even altruistic, most youtube channels are merch shops and sweepstakes nowadays for a reason.
@@nickb.249 I think you completely missed the point of what I said. I was just telling him not to apologize so much because of it. Im 100% aware of how he functions through the monetization of the video.
@@Fvviff I got that point, I was addressing the second half of your post.
@@nickb.249 You're completely off base. Nothing @Fvviff said was negative. He just said that Greg doesn't need to apologize so much for not upgrading more, since he already does so much for free.
@@ryanmcgraw1743 I'm completely off base huh? I was directly commenting on the OP acting like this youtuber was doing this out of the kindness of his heart like he was some kind of saint. I honestly don't care about the apology thing, that was only half of what the person I replied to said. I assure you Greg does absolutely none of this for free, which was my entire point and why you shouldn't be handing him rotary club awards like he's been volunteering in the food bank and cleaning up parks. Giving away sponsor-comp'd computer parts is his twist on the sweepstakes angle everyone on youtube with a pulse is doing. It's not some series of kind gestures he's doing for the community; people who get parts are just lottery winners where the prize is coming from whoever sponsored the video and/or provided the parts. It's all calculated and he wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't paying the mortgage on the fancy new custom house he's building. If you feel like he is being genuinely kind and putting himself out there, then he accomplished his mission and you're also clueless and desperate for parasocial relationships.
This PC almost completes OEM bingo: bad CPU cooler, barebones motherboard, sealed off case, single channel memory. At least it doesn’t have too much proprietary headers and PSUs so some of the parts were able to be reused which is always good
I took a handful of DDR5 Laptop RAM, CR2032 batteries, & small NVMe drives, buried them in my backyard, and hopefully after placing them in the right soil and watering them everyday, will grow to be a tall and beautiful Hardware Tree
I feel bad for anyone that buys a pre-built like this one. Y'all deserve more than this!
the stripped v ram sinks on the MB was very painful to look at.
I’m not gonna give you crap for when you do or don’t give free upgrades. It’s your channel and, honestly, even a free diagnostic puts you ahead of most repair shops. I’ve seen some places charge upwards of $100 just to crack open the case and poke around. Folks need to stop whining and pay attention to all the free stuff you’re already giving away before an upgrade even happens. Keep up the good work. You’re truly doing your part and I’m happy you still get to earn a living through monetization of these videos.
Great Wall is an OEM brand. They make power supplies for several reputable brands. That should be a decent power supply.
Yeah, i saw them in 486 pcs and they were still working
Yup. They made one of Corsair’s best SFF PSUs. The Corsair SF750.
If you ask me no oem brand is reputable
They just have more marketing then smaller brands
@@holyhelga In this case it's not OEM for cheap machines it's an OEM for actual manufactures, some models of branded PSUs are actually great wall.
May not have been the craziest repair troubleshoot, but I feel like helping address a pre-Built PC's issues is great. It shows people who might be afraid to take on their own build that it isn't that hard to do and that you don't always get what you pay for in the pre-Built segment. Great job and PC for the video
Thanks for the support!
That motherboard...I don't think I have seen something that bad in years😂.
Great wall is one of the big OEMs for PSU alot of the basic PSUs tend to be a rebrand of theirs
No need to apologize, He has a much better rig than before.
1:36 That IO area is a bloody desert!
Coming from someone who recently went from a pre-built to taking the plunge and building my own pc, it was great. I always had weird unexplainable things happen on my prebuilt until it eventually just quit working one day. Things have been rock solid on my new and first build. Super happy with it
Great Wall is an OEM PSU manufacturer and one of the biggest there is, of who other name brands use to make their PSU's, such as Corsair's "CX" and "TX-M" for an example.
corsair CX series is total garbage though ive had some of those die on me
@@dawn1berlitz i have a cx 500 thats been running sold for over 8 years now
It still needed replacing due to the GPU requirements
@@Jalex0021 for me it would be CPU related
ODM
That CPU cooler is so horrible. Wow that is a totally stripped-down motherboard. I've never seen one that stripped down.
I did a double take at that IO. Like wow what a joke for connectivity.
I was wondering, how much money did they really save by stripping down that motherboard so harshly?
@@arthurstarling9743 There's 2 factors. First, they save a bit on stripping it. Second, they make money again when it has to be replaced...
@@arthurstarling9743 Likely quite a bit. In the CPU area alone, if you were to buy all of the missing mosfets and passives, that could be $20-30 depending on what they're using. OEMs of course get huge discounts for buying reels of parts vs piecemeal, but it's still a significant reduction.
Connectors are the next most expensive part, they saved a fair bit deleting all of those as well. Not only in connector cost, but copper cost and board complexity, not having to run as many traces. I'm actually surprised they removed the connectors from the board design, that's some real cheap skating. Usually they just use a retail board and not populate the connectors or passives.
It's a shame that they removed those connectors from the actual board design. I've been able to add missing connectors and components on OEM boards to get back missing functionality. My most recent "upgrade" of an OEM board was an older HP AM3 board (Apricot-RS780L-UATX.) It had the pads for two additional DDR3 slots and a full size PCIe x16 slot that weren't installed.
Adding in missing RAM slots is usually straight forward, just install the slots and they generally work. The BIOS may not detect the memory correctly, so you can end up with hilarious things like a BIOS screen that says 0 MB installed, but the OS will see it fine.
Adding missing PCIe slots is another story. They usually remove the passives with the slot, so you have to install those too. In this boards case, it was something like 52 0102 SMD ceramic caps the size of a grain of dust. But the slot worked fine after all of the passive capacitors were installed. There's actually another PCIe x1 slot that can be installed, but the x16 slot was enough for me, because it allowed you to use a non-crippled video card.
I also cross flashed the BIOS on the board with a BIOS from a similar 760G AM3 board. I lost the fan speed detection, but gained more features in the BIOS that were absent before.
Personally, my favorite part of the video is when you upgrade someone. I live 1000 miles away from you and my stuff isn't broken. But I can only imagine how great it would feel to get a broken rig back with upgrades. Do what you do, Sir. Love it!
Great Wall are actually very legit. Corsair has (dunno if they still do) bought and relabelled Great wall units in the past, and other companies have done the same including dell. They are perfectly acceptable units
Great Wall makes great PSUs. They make private label PSUs.
Same with Super Flower and FSP.
My Corsair is really a Great Wall
Yeah, many Corsair PSUs are made by them, they also make many laptop charging bricks.
@@Louie_M same with mine.
And then is me, 560w for 3080ti, but yeah I know, good brand, rtx undervolt and not so power hungry cpu
"I don't want to upgrade too much, I need to be resourcefull" -> Proceeds to upgrade the case, cpu cooler and psu. xD No front it was just funny. Great video as always.
I watched a video on this channel many years ago and ever since I watched it, I couldn't stop watching.
You're my hero, Marco daddy :-)
@@GregSalazar My walter-white inspired Inwin 303C build only has you to thank! I will be rebuilding it with a 5800X3D and undoing my haswell setup soon when i get some time.
Ahhh the classic Best Buy builds that always has issues. Best Buy’s way to get u to spend $100 just for them to tell u they don’t know what’s wrong with it.
To be fair, I bought a Omen Obelisk pre-built from best buy back in 2019 and it was a $1k price tag and boots in 2 seconds according to the start up time. My new PC I built recently boots in 7.8 seconds and I'm just wondering WTF did those guys tho with the software that made it boot so God damn fast?!?! Still haven't figured it out
@@Brawlio13 probably fast startup in bios and in windows? it's just 5 seconds though lol it's not that big of a deal
@@Brawlio13AMD system?
Yep, though this isn't a Best Buy system, it's an Asus system sold at Best Buy. But sold in the same vein.
I did the Geek Squad think for a while, so be nice. Along with myself we had three techs who knew what they were doing...and one guy who had never installed a HDD. The reputation these days is often earned.
I assembled a "barebones" build with this case!!! Got the case, psu, b550 mobo & 5600x cpu and 1tb HDD for $139!! Got a used RX 6750XT for $232!! Added $45 of 2 new ram sticks and just $417.33 later. I had a fully assembled pc....I sold it November for $700. Which is still an amazing deal for the buyer. Gave him a 1 year warranty on labor/parts too.
Greg: I cant replace too many things on these builds. Also Greg: I will replace the cpu cooler, case and PSU.
but that single ram stick looks fine....who needs dual channel?
he means the more expensive parts usually like graphics card
Poor choice really in replacing a totally fine psu and not upgrading the single channel generic low speed ram in the system. Amateur hour at it’s finest.
Would have just replaced the cooler and swap/add RAM.
Honestly, i agree with you guys, but I'd actually be very, very happy with what he did.
Ar this point, the 9700 is outdated anyway.
I'd get an AM5 (or intel 1800 later this year) into that case and change the GPU late this year, once they launch RDNA 4 and Blackwell.
I think he paved the way greatly for an upgrade and he states it at the end.
Oh wow, that motherboard IO shield is something I haven't seen before. I'm actually surprised that Asus labeled this under its own brand and not as an OEM.
I can relate as a biomed equipment specialist. I get a work order for an issue, and we try to recreate the problem. If we can't recreate it, we do a basic preventative maintenance and send it back. Great video! Keep up the great work!
honestly, i love the generosity of you upgrading machines, dont listen to people complaining about it, it generous and super nice of you.
Hey Greg, I just want to say that your videos are really helpful in terms of fixing PCs. But it's really heartbreaking for me that after learning so much from your videos I failed to fix my own rig. But even technically don't have a PC anymore I love to watch your videos and learn from it. Thank you for making these great videos for us❤️
According to GN the Great Wall PSU is fine not good but not bad.
I love this series, even these where your dealing with a cheap prebuilt with cheap/proprietary components that upgrading one thing such as the cpu, cpu cooler, or the graphics card won't provide the uplift in performance it should because its potential is limited by the other cheap/low end components and fixing them is impossible without acquiring the exact same part or just rebuilding the whole thing which you usually end up doing the latter.
You giving people new hardware to fix problematic computers doesn't bother me at all, its just the reality of dealing with cheap computers where the manufacturer has cut a bunch of corners in making them to save cost. If it fixes the problem the owner sent it to you to for that's a win.
That pre-built cut so many corners it went from a square to a circle lol. I can feel your pain inside with that motherboard, great episode and upgrade nevertheless!
The Dark Rock 4 comes to the rescue. This cooler is one of the best on the market. I used it on a 5800X3D stock settings and temps never went higher than 76 degrees at full load (stock settings)
I love upgrade episodes too! Maybe it’s not everyone cup of tea but it’s pretty exciting to see viewers get these awesome builds! Although I totally get we can’t have that all the time lol 😅
Noone can comment on what greg does in a negative way. I enjoy the channel. Learnt alot and i take alot more pride in building and cleaning the home pc. My 11 year old watches this with me and now does routine cleaning on his also thank you
All thw way from aus
Microcenter should sponsor this series. Just sponsoring the replacement parts would be a no brainer deal.
Microcenter works with other you tubers so don't think they aren't part of the game, i'm not even from America and i know this. the point of the video is to find a problem and fix it, not just to say "here have a complete PC upgrade courtesy of Microcenter". that's about it in a nutshell, if you need me to elaborate more then feel free to reply.
Thanx a ton for the video and diagnosis, it's always good to have more knowledge behind the belt.
Haven't watched the video entirely yet, but I have to say... keep the series going! I always like watching the repair/restoration videos.
Greg: i wanna be resourceful with any upgrades i wanna give out and only upgrade what is necessary
also Greg: upgrades 3 components of the PC to premium ones
Thanks for the video Greg! As always very informative and nice for watching
Had a friend with the same prebuilt, and the same bothering issues. I recommended a case, a Hyper 212 and better RAM, and it was night and day difference. What you did is enough to give it new life, and give the owner a feeling being upgraded to the max. My friend paid for his stuff, but it was still just under $200.
Love your work, attitude, and diagnosis process.
That said, I would have preferred to see a video where you kept this case, and made it work. I understand the cooler fitment complicated things, but as someone has literally worked within the 'next iteration' of this plagued Asus ROG case... I was super interested when I saw the thumbnail.
Overall, still an awesome job.
I actually really like these vids.
Not every rig has to have a POST problem. Sometimes we just need to learn what areas to focus on when doing upgrades.
Seeing the data and listening to the symptoms is a great way to “troubleshoot” your own upgrade path.
Still a win of a video. Learning happened!
honestly i like the case upgrade as it gives the viewer the chance up upgrade to a better board in the future i also agree you cant always upgrade everything you do what you can with what you are given props to you for these vids i enjoy them
You're awesome Greg! I think it's great that you do this for free. You're doing a lot of ppl a lot of good. I always love to learn what you have to teach. Knowing you do this for free is apart of the reason I'll always watch these!
Great video as usual. It's great that you can upgrade items, considering you don't have a parts warehouse in your back yard !!!. Nicely done 🙂
Great video Greg.....again. Gave them path to upgrade as well. Keep em coming.
A nice and easy fix. You love to see it! Hats off to you for helping all these people with their troubled systems.
He got a new case, extra fans, a cooler, and a power supply? I'd say he should be pleasantly surprised. Great job Greg!
Love watching Fix or Flop vids, I learn a lot from them, thanks for the vids.
Thank you for these videos. I started flipping pc’s and having watched these since season 1 I have been able to trouble shoot things easily when building pc’s.
Nice fix! Sometimes broken means things are haunted or burned up...and sometimes broken means a design penny pinched to oblivion with subpar components.
Been a while since I built a PC, so just now getting familiar with the latest generations of hardware since I got friends asking for advice. Certainly trying to steer them away from prebuilts at this point since those almost always seem to be a can of worms.
Greg keep them coming I love watching and I pick a few things up in every episode to help me with my system
I love the channel and love upgrade videos. Anything to keep you able to help people out and save some abused systems lol. Keep up the great work.
That is some fantastic upgrades.
Love the antec performance 1, and bequiet products are really nice.
Looking forward to the next video :D
Nice video. It was very nice and very considerate of you to do those Upgrades.
I just started watching your channel and now you have a new subscriber :) love your content and can’t wait to see more
My brother had bought an identical build to this a few years back. I recently took it in and cleaned it up for him. The overall build quality is an absolute nightmare. The motherboard was Jammed down onto one of the standoffs so much it was poking through. The extra metal frame that was along the pcie slots was holding on tight to that GPU. I've never been more sure something was going to break. But Luckily the only thing that that got really injured was my hands with all the micro cuts lol.. I really hope you had a better time with this than I did.
You do what your have to friend. Why anyone complains about it is beyond me. Feel happy gregg about what you have done
you are the best tech youtuber i have ever watched. i have never built a pc myself but every time i watch i feel like i need to get into pc building. keep up the good work man!
Hi Greg, lovin` your series and watchin` every episode, don`t be bothered with a dodgy comments. One thing i need to mention, STOP with explaining yourself. You are a great guy who gives a LOT as a charity, your time, effort and free parts. People are watchin` your channel globally - greets from Poland mate ;)
I will say, I was one of the few that bought a prebuild (before I started building custom rigs) from bestbuy and it actually worked, and worked great. It was a CyberPowerPC rig. All the components were brand named, the cable management was spot on, and it came at a really nice price RX580/R5 3600 for $650 in 2020. It became the base of my future upgrades for a two years. I have heard nothing but bad things about these Asus ROG prebuilts. Anyways... Great video as always greg lol.
Greg does it again! Thanks again Greg for helping people, You are fantastic!
This is by far the best playlist on this platform, I'm already looking forward to the next episode!
Awesome series Greg 👏🏼 Look forward to weekly episodes
Dude I thought this show was called "Pimp My Pc" what do you mean you can't do a full rebuild lol😜
Anyone reading this PLEASE give Greg Salazar a *few spare parts for the Fix or Flop* series...
I totally agree!!! He is bust.
Let go! Really enjoy this series
That is the most bare bones motherboard I have seen in awhile. Holy moly.
My 10 year old son loved this video!! You need to make more of these videos!
Still enjoy this series very much. Keep it up
Loving this series, been watching almost every episode! Were the tests done with the sidepanel on or off on his old case btw? In every shot it was off, so I just have to ask. Considering how restrictive the case was on airflow, it would definitely make a difference on GPU thermals. Having run into the black screen issue myself with seemingly normal GPU temps, it seemed to be more closely linked to VRAM temps in my instance.
My first pc was a prebuilt ASUS from BestBuy, it came in a funny shaped case that left me with zero upgrade options graphics card or ram wise. While I learned about pc's and pc building I started wanting more, so while I saved to buy all the pieces for a new pc I decided to mod/hack up my current proprietary shit box via a pcie riser and a standalone psu to power the gtx1080ti I had bought off craigslist, threw that 750ti in the trash so fast. Was so ready to do something with my new found love of pc's I ended up putting a water-cooling adapter plate and an AIO on the 1080ti, even though it ran perfectly cool before as it sat outside of the case and got fresh air coming from the air vent in my office. Long story short, don't buy a prebuilt that is not built using off the shelf parts.
No worries here, I've watched many of your fix or flop videos and have always felt that your decisions about upgrades have been well thought out and make total sense!
Ohnestly your doing your best. Its not even my computer yet im greatfull for you doing your best to help ppl to the capacity you can.
I had the "black screen 100% fan speed" issue on one of my previous systems before. Stress tests wouldn't cause it to happen, but certain games would. The problem was unrelated to thermals but was the *Asus* motherboard causing the issue. I swapped out the board for a different brand and the problem went away. I'm concerned that this PC might come back to you with the same issue.
thanks for learning with us
That was a great upgrade. You gave a path to the future with the upgrades.
I think its awesome what you do man keep it up!!
Never doubt your self.... Good Job Greg !!!
new cooler looks HUGE !!!! great upgrade for your customer
dont worry greg any help is appreciated u dont have to replace anything but u do
Thanks for another awesome video, the power supply was a bit overkill though especialy considering the very basic motherboard.
You got to love how Greg loves fighting his niceness but usually ends up losing anyways. Great video and great series. It's one of my favorites on CZcams.
I dont think you need to upgrade all the other things for this, issues where that it ran hot and was loud, and you fixed those issues. job well done.
I think you gave it a good upgrade and of course driver updates are a must. Which is what you did right off the bat.
😅thank you for all youre videos all those years
Fun video Greg. Just a quick suggestion, if you feel a build is somewhat deficient in USB ports a USB card with usually 4 USB ports is a very cheap option. If the motherboard has USB connectors on the bottom the 4 port breakout fishplate adapter can be as little as $6. This client scored big time with the new case, CPU cooler and 1000W PSU. As others have said here Great Wall is a good quality OEM brand.
Very nice episode as usual
Great series!
I bought this bad boy myself. No air flow and rev's all the time. Ended up putting it in another case with a all in one cooler.
That single stick of RAM is absolutely killing me
Hey Greg, I thought the upgrades you did with this PC made sense! I don't like the motherboard either, but you fixed the main problems with this one!
You are awesome for helping him, I thought there wouldn't be much to save on his rig. I have heard from some tech channel that Great Wall makes some higher end better stuff for some of the major big brands. It seems like they said they are actually a good company and if I remember correct they make SSD or something also. I think it was LTT I saw it on maybe
Huge ATX case for m-atx board !😆mucho air flow!
man that single stick of ram is really triggering love your videos Greg
i love this series of videos
It looks super clean though surprisingly I dig it!
its awesome what you do Greg i probably have one of the oldestbuilds on here but its not for gaming in my case but it will get upgraded later this year as its time to retire it but i f i where to use the board again it would get a complete cleaning
Maybe once per season of this show, do an episode where it is basically just a massive upgrade job and then maybe film their reactions when you hand it back and be like "I did fix it, BUT also I just pimped yo PC!" *Insert X-zibit*
I had the same case prebuilt, temp are horrible. I was able to mount a AIO on the front but it wasn’t simple. Got a single thin fan on the top to get with exhaust. Temp are great now