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Komentáře • 133

  • @doomerquiet1909
    @doomerquiet1909 Před 3 lety +11

    “And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers, to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,”
    ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:11-13‬ ‭ESV‬‬
    While the first two have come and gone, the next three stand upon the apostles and prophets proclamation of Christ the Son of God, these men have been such a blessing to me personally by the Grace of God.
    Encouraging when i see people that fill the role of shepherds and teachers as well as evangelist.

  • @ThePattersonPod
    @ThePattersonPod Před 7 lety +13

    I'm so sad. Phil Johnson is coming to my church Sunday, but it is during a mission's trip I'm going on. Still glad to be on the trip, just sad they scheduled when we would miss him.

  • @markchristian787
    @markchristian787 Před 7 lety +33

    This is phenomenal. I didnt even know this conference existed. I dont know Boucham or the Presbyterian preacher but Dr. White, Lawson, and Johnson have been true men of Christ, preaching and teaching the truth.

    • @annanimus3943
      @annanimus3943 Před 7 lety +17

      Voddie Bahcham is great to listen to.

    • @indakgalak
      @indakgalak Před 4 lety +2

      Mark Christian I know all four amazing faithful men of GOD, Dr. Voddie Boucham, Dr. Steve Lawson, Dr. Phil Johnson, and Dr. James White... I sadly don’t know the Presbyterian one either... I’m a fan of the first three... I do highly respect Dr. James White and his intelligence, but he just really comes across as arrogant to me (he’s most probably not, but it’s just the impression I get)... I love Dr. Voddie Baucham’s sermons on Marriage and Family!❤️❤️❤️

    • @dfacedagame
      @dfacedagame Před 2 lety +3

      Go listen to Voodie . True man of God !

    • @Psalm119-50
      @Psalm119-50 Před 2 lety +1

      Paul Washer is part of this team as well! Another great Pastor to learn from!

  • @bobodruza891
    @bobodruza891 Před 7 lety +14

    Thank you, have been waiting eagerly to see this.. GOD bless

  • @gracesue4401
    @gracesue4401 Před 7 lety +1

    Reformation, and not compromise , must continue till the Lord Jesus' Return !
    Luke 18:8
    "I tell you, He will see that they get justice, and quickly.
    However, when the
    Son of Man comes,
    will He find faith on the earth?"

  • @cheribrier5948
    @cheribrier5948 Před 6 lety +9

    It would be nice for you to add closed captioning for your Deaf Sisters and Brothers to enjoy your Conferences

    • @youknow1595
      @youknow1595 Před 3 lety

      Yes! Thank u for saying this! Closed captions are so needed! There is a wealth of knowledge and wisdom here that our deaf brothers and sisters are missing out on :(

  • @DavidCastro-gr9ss
    @DavidCastro-gr9ss Před rokem +1

    The trinity. The diety of Christ. Faith alone as a means of justification apart from works. Salvation by Grace alone. Scripture as the only authority of faith and practice. Glory to God alone.

    • @DavidCastro-gr9ss
      @DavidCastro-gr9ss Před rokem +1

      These are essential as core Christian truth. There are non essentials which we can disagree on and still consider each other brothers and sisters in the Lord.

    • @DavidCastro-gr9ss
      @DavidCastro-gr9ss Před rokem +1

      Hyper Calvinsm is over ephemsizing God's sovereignty over human choice and responsibility.

    • @DavidCastro-gr9ss
      @DavidCastro-gr9ss Před rokem +1

      Hyper Calvinsm denies evangelism and even prayer.

    • @DavidCastro-gr9ss
      @DavidCastro-gr9ss Před rokem +1

      No, denial of the essentials determines if you're a Christian.

    • @hamidrabiipour9707
      @hamidrabiipour9707 Před rokem

      False preachers for sure, that's who they are !!

  • @PreachTheTruth
    @PreachTheTruth Před 7 lety

    Where is part 3?

  • @PeaceToAll-sl1db
    @PeaceToAll-sl1db Před 3 lety +3

    There is no scriptural basis for paid pastors. We are all led to be led by the spirit during church services.

    • @billiamnotbob
      @billiamnotbob Před 5 měsíci

      Perhaps it would benefit you to read 1st Timothy 5.

    • @PeaceToAll-sl1db
      @PeaceToAll-sl1db Před 5 měsíci

      Nothing in that chapter says we hire paid pasters @@billiamnotbob

  • @michaelpenn49
    @michaelpenn49 Před 2 lety

    What just happened the first question omg were are we as a church

  • @darlalei4303
    @darlalei4303 Před 3 lety +1

    CC please.

  • @teresalaabid9069
    @teresalaabid9069 Před 3 lety

    In my opinions I spoke this time is because one seen that if we want to prove to the whole worlds who’s God we have to be firmed and to project that God is alive and God it’s been here . But because they’re are blind with the truth whatever the opposite they’re are trying to address or to destructive the main messages , whats God trying to addressed for . Everybody but we focus on abortions , blaming God for this crisis , did we ever ask to ourself do we do good in our life ? All this things can answers only us nobody .God said love your enemies , love who doesn’t believe you , be patient to them how I’m being patience to you , show the real love . When you really know God no fear in everyday in life’s . And if you know that you’re fighting for is our creator than those peoples
    Who’s
    Trying to destroy us , to my brothers and sisters God is merciful and God loves us so much unconditionally and I want to shared to the whole world, God said surrenders your life to me and trust me and I will give you the life eternity ... we all go and be strong , hold on we will go all the way to the finished line and meet our Creator our almighty God .. love you all .

  • @gracesue4401
    @gracesue4401 Před 7 lety

    Colossians 2:6-8
    Romans 12:2

  • @DavidCastro-gr9ss
    @DavidCastro-gr9ss Před rokem

    Yup

  • @juanpablodeleonpacheco6205

    Bendiciones amados hermanos. En español por favor.

    • @SeaShanty88
      @SeaShanty88 Před 7 lety +1

      Juan Pablo De León Pacheco esperemos que nos escuchen.

    • @juanpablodeleonpacheco6205
      @juanpablodeleonpacheco6205 Před 7 lety

      Roger MoreLli gracias

    • @johnbass7551
      @johnbass7551 Před 6 lety

      Pues, si escuches un velocidad más despacio (si sabes algun inglés) será más fácil.

  • @johnbass7551
    @johnbass7551 Před 6 lety +4

    Even better at 1.5 speed

  • @vegana13
    @vegana13 Před 3 lety +2

    please pray for manuel who lives in france ; he's got the c ... ; = the disease that's killing many right now in the world ; he's in the hospital; they say he could die at any moment; he can go to hell ; he's doing really really bad; please pray for his salvation in Jesus Name; he's about 65; thank you so much !!!!

  • @johnseimon4183
    @johnseimon4183 Před rokem +1

    Notice how many times they quote scripture…

  • @avishayil3863
    @avishayil3863 Před 3 lety

    God bless and keep the true shepherds, Amen.

  • @DavidCastro-gr9ss
    @DavidCastro-gr9ss Před rokem

    Why aren't you guys not referencing scripture?

  • @vaughnlonganecker986
    @vaughnlonganecker986 Před 2 lety

    One of those things that even Mainline Protestant "killed over" was believers baptism/infinite baptism, separation of church and state, nonviolent persuasion and consequence of faith, and peaceful social and political behave, otherwise known as A Anabaptist, which most on "Protestants" now accept.

  • @DavidCastro-gr9ss
    @DavidCastro-gr9ss Před rokem

    We need to reference scripture

  • @lujinlian6714
    @lujinlian6714 Před 3 lety +2

    In this kind of conferences most important do not take in all the speakers said. We as Christians have to read and seek the Word of God (Bible) ourselves. They can add and substract God's Word. Jesus Himself said we have to read the Bible ourself.

  • @peterjongsma2754
    @peterjongsma2754 Před 6 lety

    God doesn't will evil. He just knows how to fix it's effects.

  • @DavidCastro-gr9ss
    @DavidCastro-gr9ss Před rokem

    It's complicated.

  • @freedomtoall8822
    @freedomtoall8822 Před 6 lety

    Dr James White is wrong when he said most people cant explain the trinity because of oneness pentecostals popularity. Most people's view of God is Modalistic because it makes sense. He even said it himself that most Christians believe in Modalism.

    • @eltonron1558
      @eltonron1558 Před 4 lety +1

      The trinity doctrine
      Calvinism
      Sunday as the Lords day
      All created by men, and meant to distance God, and make him a mystery. All done generations before we were born.

  • @onielfrancis5251
    @onielfrancis5251 Před 3 lety

    Minute 4:57. Why is the demonic sign being shown???

  • @chuckystuff69
    @chuckystuff69 Před 7 lety +3

    Just curious; must James White roll his eyes & lift his nose every time he comments on these "paupers" questions? He's obvious a legend in his own mind.

    • @annanimus3943
      @annanimus3943 Před 7 lety +2

      Charles butts: I listen to his radio show often and have concluded that he is a bit of an intellectual snob, but I have been accused (falsely, I think) of that, so I can't condemn it.

    • @chuckystuff69
      @chuckystuff69 Před 7 lety +2

      anna nimus perhaps, but he's a bit too much to take. In fact, he's actually a nobody who intentionally aligns himself with the likes of RC Sproul et al to gain credibility. I would throw out my radio if he was all that was left. I get sick of hearing him brag about how he's "debated" all these "Sheikh allah barundi maharajahi who the !!! ever" like he's the only person on earth that knows anything about Islam. I have only 2 words for him …
      Braxton Caner!

    • @annanimus3943
      @annanimus3943 Před 7 lety +1

      Charles butts Yeah, I get irritated too.

    • @MrWatsoever
      @MrWatsoever Před 7 lety +12

      You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. James White is a brilliant apologist and debater. You might learn a thing or two if you actually listen to the man proclaiming the gospel in mosques (come on, who else is doing that these days. All I hear is cries of "'Murica! 'Murica!" thinking that is the gospel.
      I have learned a great deal from the man and I thank God for him.

    • @1988TheHitman
      @1988TheHitman Před 6 lety +6

      charles butts
      ‘He’s actually a nobody....’ are you serious? I certainly hope your not professing to be a Christian because if you are you’re violating scripture because James is a brother and you’re called to love him as a member of Christ’s bride. If your not a Christian then you’re just disrespectful and need to be converted. James White puts his neck on the block every time he debates Anyone in the islamic arena because of how violent their religion is! He’s a 21st century voice crying in the wilderness preparing the way of the Lord, therefore have some respect.

  • @RushBoogie
    @RushBoogie Před 6 lety

    I'm a little disappointed nobody mentioned creationism. We have many Christians who believe in some form of evolution. If we are going to defend the bible it has to be from Genesis 1:1. Because the foundations of the Word of God are attacked (Genesis 1-11) more and more of it will be challenged by the enemy. We need to stand strong in the fact that God created the heavens and the earth in 6 days as He said. If God's Word is not trustworthy in Genesis 1-11, why should it be trustworthy anywhere else including but not limited to gay marriage, abortion etc.

    • @eentry8056
      @eentry8056 Před 4 lety

      Rashied Rushing maybe if they would read the ten commandments there would be no discussion. It’s God who’s talking.

  • @pastorwesII
    @pastorwesII Před 6 lety

    As a student of the gospel and ordained minister who operates in full-time vocation as a pastor and with a evangelical organization. If I am transparent I am nauseated at the arrogance of those who hold Western Theology more specifically Western Evangelicalism as the standard by which all other Christian thought is to be measured. I say that as a huge fan of Dr. Baucham who I at times disagree with stances that I view as linear.

  • @leebailey9383
    @leebailey9383 Před 7 lety +5

    Please do not hide behind subtle fake usernames online. Especially on God-fearing reverencing serving websites. Please do not.

    • @annanimus3943
      @annanimus3943 Před 7 lety +4

      Lee Bailey: What? Who cares what name you use? We are all strangers here. We remain strangers no matter what we choose to call ourselves.

    • @frankthe2ndsonof1st16
      @frankthe2ndsonof1st16 Před 5 lety

      Subtle? God- fearing? You mean calvinistic god? Be Christlike, and you don't have to fear anything! Your comment is typical, bullish.

  • @eltonron1558
    @eltonron1558 Před 4 lety

    That's it! They reject the teaching of the Roman Catholic church, while embracing elements of it at It's worst.

  • @LaFedelaIglesia
    @LaFedelaIglesia Před 7 lety +1

    Where were the Protestants in the 1200's or in the 900's or in the 500's? Protestantism is not the Christianity of the ages...

  • @AlphaOmega888
    @AlphaOmega888 Před 7 lety

    12:40 Romans 1:7 To ALL who are *IN ROME* , beloved of God, *CALLED* to be saints (Christians): Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
    Before dealing with Gal deal with Romans 1:7 first - the most least read chapter in the Bible. There's those who follow scripture, and those who REALLY follow it.

    • @jeffkovene4420
      @jeffkovene4420 Před 6 lety

      TakeSomeAdvice Not all in rome were nor are beloved of Jesus Christ. YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN!

  • @AlphaOmega888
    @AlphaOmega888 Před 7 lety

    Calvin was a Catholic Priest and believed sacraments produce real, beneficial effects in us: “They, by sealing it to us, sustain, nourish, confirm, and increase our faith.” (IV, 14:7) / “That sacred communion of flesh and blood by which Christ transfuses his life into us, just as if it penetrated our bones and marrow, . . .” (IV, 17:10)
    Calvin believed the Church as Guardian of True Doctrine and Truth - [T]o prevent the truth from perishing in the world, the Church is its faithful guardian, because God has been pleased to preserve the pure preaching of his word by her instrumentality . . . (IV, 1:10)
    Calvin believed in Ordained Priests - Christ ordered dispensers of his gospel and his sacred mysteries to be ordained, . . . (IV, 19:28) - There remains the laying on of hands, . . . I admit it to be a sacrament in *true and legitimate ordination* , . . . (IV, 19:31)
    Calvin accepted the primacy of the Roman Church in early Christian history: “I deny not that the early Christians uniformly give high honour to the Roman Church, and speak of it with reverence. . . . pious and holy bishops, when driven from their sees, often betook themselves to Rome as an asylum or haven. . . . It therefore added very great authority to the Roman Church, that . . . [it] adhered more firmly to the doctrine once delivered, . . .” (IV, 6:16)
    Calvin believed that there was no salvation outside the [CATHOLIC] Church: “[B]eyond the pale of the Church no forgiveness of sins, no salvation, can be hoped for, . . .” (IV, 1:4)
    Nay, the very flesh in which he resides he makes vivifying to us, that by partaking of it we may feed for immortality. . . . by this food believers are reared to eternal life.” (IV, 17:8)
    Calvin believed the The Church as “Mother” - [T]o those to whom he is a Father, the Church must also be a mother. (IV, 1:1)

    • @peterjongsma2754
      @peterjongsma2754 Před 6 lety

      TakeSomeAdvice
      I never knew that.Thought he called The Mass a condemnable idolatory.
      Says so in the Catechism.
      Glad to know he respects Roman Catholics.I do.
      But the Assisi meeting with Muslims and Hindus shocked me.

  • @falcon759
    @falcon759 Před 4 lety +4

    1:43 Don't get me wrong - I like Dr. White, but he so often makes me cringe when he makes condescending remarks like this. It's just totally unnecessary. I know he means it in a light-hearted way, but as Phil Johnson said in an interview once, James White has a "skewed" sense of humor and "doesn't really know what's funny." You can even hear the audience groan a bit because it comes across as nasty, not funny.

    • @jerryvivanco4898
      @jerryvivanco4898 Před 3 lety +1

      Get over it!!!

    • @falcon759
      @falcon759 Před 3 lety +3

      @@jerryvivanco4898 I stand by what I said. If you disagree, then you can state your reasons, but shouting "Get over it!!!" isn't helpful. I raised a serious issue, not a petty complaint like, "I don't like it that James wears bow-ties."

    • @TwitchyThelogian
      @TwitchyThelogian Před 3 lety +2

      I thought it was funny 🤷‍♂️. His delivery isn't gr8 tho.

    • @falcon759
      @falcon759 Před 3 lety

      @@TwitchyThelogian If he had made it a tongue-in-cheek self-deprecating comment, it would have been much better (e.g. "They're not loud-mouth debaters like me"). As is, it sounds like he's tooting his own horn and putting them down (again, I am sure that wasn't his intention, but you can clearly hear at least half the audience that reacted groan, which means that's how they took it).

    • @CoraJean19
      @CoraJean19 Před 3 lety

      @Falcon I agree with you and Phil. Dr. White can seem “snarky” at times. It makes it difficult for me to listen to him.

  • @eltonron1558
    @eltonron1558 Před 4 lety

    These God defying Sunday keepers, sure are nice and polite.
    I bet they even display graven images, and pray out loud, to defy Jesus words on prayer.
    They know better, but alas, there is a paycheck to protect.
    Scripture is the final authority.

    • @saved6655
      @saved6655 Před 3 lety

      So just like most people all you can say is lies. Like I bet they do this or that. Then say scripture is final authority, showing your true colors you do not disprove these men with the Bible, you just talk and never prove anything with the Bible. These men are known for there biblical exegesis, your opinion is just a opinion and it shows by your adhomenim attacks

    • @eltonron1558
      @eltonron1558 Před 3 lety

      @@saved6655 If they are Sunday keepers, they defy, God, and Christ.
      Matthew 19:17, 22:36-40
      From the mouth of Christ himself. They are still eligible for salvation, though they be hippocrits.
      If you are SAVED, as in salvation, you are not yet saved. If you are SAVED, as in, saved from your old ways, or saved from a speeding ticket, it still isn't salvation. Is Paul Washer, one of these men? Who he ministers to, has my sympathy.

    • @saved6655
      @saved6655 Před 3 lety

      @@eltonron1558 Let’s look at your context here. Remember there is verses before 36-40
      But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered themselves together. One of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him,
      Matthew 22: 34,35
      This is a Pharisee “ONE OF THEM, a lawyer” one of who? “when the PHARISEE”. So Christ is talking to a hypocrite pharisee, who lived on the outside off of the “commandments” but on the inside like a dog. Hence Christ calling them white washed tombs in Mathew 23. So he tells them the only way your getting in is if you obey all the commandments. But Paul gets into what Jesus was really talking about.
      It was for freedom that Christ set us free (hence Christ telling us to take his yoke, faith in him); therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a YOKE OF SLAVERY. Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision (or any other work or any merit for salvation like keeping the sabbath, he’s saying that doesn’t save), Christ will be of no benefit to you. And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation “to keep the whole Law” (just like the lawyer/Pharisee in Mathew 22:36-40). You have been severed from Christ (and if you do you have been severed because the only way to Christ is through faith alone, not keeping any decrees to merit salvation), you who are seeking to be justified by law (like sabbath or any other decree); you have fallen from grace. For we through the Spirit, by faith, are waiting for the hope of righteousness.
      Galatians 5: 1-5
      This goes for both of your commandment texts, remember Christ was talking to white washed Pharisees not saved children of God. Now what your missing is when you are saved true faith shows fruit but not fruit that doesn’t follow along with the Bible. Paul talks specifically about what is and is not in
      Colossians 2: 14-17
      having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees (what decrees?he tells us in verse 17) against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him. Therefore NO ONE is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day (umm pretty clear) things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
      And I think I covered your false theology on this in all of that. We are saved through faith alone, Biblical faith expresses itself through obedience, but remember what I just showed you, the sabbath is not apart of this, neither is any decree to earn salvation.
      However, I could argue that regardless of outward expressions of sin all of our hearts are ultimately sinful, prideful, arrogant, thus the ongoing sanctifying work of Christ in each individual. If we continue to sin and our hearts are not transformed and we are not continuing to be transformed into the image of Jesus I would say regeneration has not occurred.
      So your comment of “if they are Sunday keepers they defy God” you have to show me with good biblical evidence where that is and obviously with what I just shown you, it cannot contradict scripture.

    • @eltonron1558
      @eltonron1558 Před 3 lety

      @@saved6655 Anytime, you read the words, "commandments", in the new testament, it is the ten commandments. You can't get around that. A true Christian, is supposed to DESIRE, keeping the commandments, as a matter of obedience to faith. IF COURSE, IT DOESN'T SAVE. You're going legalistic, as if I'm going legalistic. When Christ speaks, he is speaking to US. Do not play the context card, it will burn you, the second you cite something you agree with. Jesus is the final arbiter of truth in all matters. Truth, bitter to you, is good fruit. Jesus stated how the ten commandments is ALL THE LAW. You have a problem, distinguishing, God's holy law, from mosaic law. The ten commandments, did not come from, nor through Moses, but from the voice of God, and the Israelites HEARD him. That's why, even though Jesus, is talking to Satan, he declares how MAN, is to live. Matthew 4:4, i.e. the ten commandments. It is a thread that runs all the way to Revelation.
      Please read the following passages from Revelation, and then deny Christianity, is to observe them.
      2:26, 12:17, 14:12, 22:14
      Regarding the Sabbath, Jesus speaks to it, as he is Lord of it, and you call him Lord.
      Matthew 5:17-18, 12:8
      Mark 2:27-28, 7:6-13
      Luke 4:16, 31 his custom
      6:5, 6:6-10
      John 7:16-17, 8:55, 14:15, 21,24, 15:10 I have kept
      Romans 9:29
      Hebrews 4:4-12, 5:8,9
      James 5:4
      1 Peter 2:21 Follow his steps.
      1John 2:3,4,7, 3:22-24, 5:2,3
      2John 1:4-6 Walk in commandments.
      Dr. White is a Calvinist, i.e. he has embraced too much Catholicism, while denying it. Now you know why, Christianity, as we know it, is not under one roof. The deliberate defiance of the professing, led by corrupt clergy.

    • @eltonron1558
      @eltonron1558 Před 3 lety

      @@saved6655 P.S. If I was able to judge, I should be able to declare guilt, AND pass sentence. I'm not judging, I am discerning, as in, right from wrong. You are not to judge me about the Sabbath. I am asserting, the commandments, are good, holy, not grevious, how we show love to God, and neighbors, and best of all, doable. How can rest, be works? The commandments, ARE, the new covenant. Only two differences. For all humanity, and written on the heart, which reminds me. Where is the command for Sunday, the custom of a decieved Christianity?

  • @con1ah
    @con1ah Před 6 lety +1

    Mac computer is a bit worldly for a man of God

  • @leebailey9383
    @leebailey9383 Před 7 lety +10

    Please stop fighting and masking said fights as 'discussions', 'debates', 'view-points', etc. It's my strong educated assumption that ZERO men, women, or children ( ( very importantly so )) become born again via such things. Preach Jesus saving blood being shed for an net entire population on earth going strait to hell. All the while these said forums take place. Enough with the denominational-ism already. Please. Souls are at stake. Billions.

    • @annanimus3943
      @annanimus3943 Před 7 lety +6

      Lee Bailey: I believe that these debates and discussions are dialectics. We learn from the opinions of others, either by having to research further into our own beliefs, or by seeing where the other is coming from.

    • @billbarrie551
      @billbarrie551 Před 7 lety

      read john 6:37-44

    • @Nighthawk104
      @Nighthawk104 Před 7 lety +7

      If this turns you off so much, why are you listening to it?

    • @billbarrie551
      @billbarrie551 Před 7 lety

      amen!!!

    • @RushBoogie
      @RushBoogie Před 6 lety +1

      Debate is necessary. The first few centuries of the church was filled with debate because what was true could not be compromised and the same holds today. Unfortunately, many from the pulpit with great sway and power are teaching doctrines that are incorrect. Ought we to let them go unchallenged?

  • @KingLoDaTruth
    @KingLoDaTruth Před 3 lety +3

    Roman Catholicism false gospel yall ….

  • @giuliabastoni2453
    @giuliabastoni2453 Před 7 lety +6

    You can talk all you want about the Reformation and Calvanism but if you haven't got a true relationship with Christ and haven't begun to be transformed by the Living Flame of God, all your talk is empty air, serving your ego and small circle only and causing further division in the Body of Christ and not unity. Augustine chose to focus on common aspects of faith with the goal to unify, not divide.

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      @annanimus3943 Před 7 lety +4

      Giulia Bastoni: This all depends on what you mean by unity. If the things that divide are not required for salvation, I agree. But the scriptures command us to mark those who cause divisions that are contrary to the faith, and separate from them. We cannot be unequally yoked together.

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      @giuliabastoni2453 Před 7 lety +1

      anna nimus there are so many fractions in the body of Christ it's not funny. Articles of faith required for salvation ought to be adhered to. Sometimes people learn through example, such as the Manichaeans ( something like Gnostics)of Augustine's time. He taught in love. Focusing on common aspects of the faith he managed to win some. You know the whole body of Christ suffers from divisions people make by stressing the importance of articles that are not really pertinent to the faith. I am really sad that there is one person that talks this and the other that talks that and the Spirit witnesses they are both part of the body. What can I do? I feel helpless about it because I'm not sure how to bring peace and unity there.

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      @giuliabastoni2453 Před 7 lety

      anna nimus there are many examples in history of people that changed their positions on certain articles. Augustine is one. From Romans 7 , for instance , initially he held this meant we are sinnless. Later on he retracted this position. Still, he was Christian. He had been transformed and clothed in Christ. Being yoked with him in love would not have been unequal

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      @annanimus3943 Před 7 lety

      Guilia Bastoni There are not quite as many factions as we are told, but I get your point. With so many churches in most cities we have the privilege of worshipping with others who share our traditions, but that doesn't always mean we are divided. Mega churches are not good. Smaller ones serve the people better. But let's look at it: An orthodox Baptist, an orthodox Lutheran, and an orthodox Episcopalian are brothers. They are not divided. They would each be able to worship in the church of the other. They prefer one mode of baptism over another, one form of service over another but are united in soteriology. But they could not worship with Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Paula White, Joyce Meyer, or Creflo Dollar. Those all teach against the very character of God. They deny the sufficiency of the cross. They claim to be gods. This is a holy division. Would God be pleased to see us endorsing ad agreeing with those who teach that God has no power on earth, that poor people will not go to Heaven (unless it is to be a servant), that Kenneth Copeland could have died for the sins of the world? NO! To worship a holy God we must not take part in such blasphemy.

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      @annanimus3943 Před 7 lety

      Guilia Bastoni: Augustine did not learn Greek, so he had to rely on a translator. This caused some early errors. If he, personally believed in the Christ and was washed in the blood, and did not think that he could earn his own salvation through works, then he is, indeed, a brother. But he did have some ideas that are not helpful. He studied the philosophers, and took from their ideas in forming his theology. They taught that the physical was evil and the spiritual pure. This idea can easily lead to the idea of dualism, which is contrary to the character and omnipotence of God. ................ Augustine taught that the original sin of Adam was having sexual relations with Eve. That is pretty important, because understanding what happened when she ate of the fruit helps us see the errors in the New Age teachings. Eating the fruit was an attempt to gain knowledge which was reserved for Heaven alone. It wasn't the knowledge of procreation. They tended to all the animals, and the animals reproduced. She was his wife. No, she wanted forbidden knowledge. She was promised to be a god when she had the knowledge. The VERY SAME sin Satan committed and the same sin of the Prosperty preachers,, "Ye shall be gods." But this teaching was why he considered and taught that sex in marriage which was not meant for pregnancy was adultery. What a needless burden to married people! The Bible taught the very opposite!