Step aboard the monster multi, an electric new Sunreef 80 Eco - with space for a solar farm!
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- čas přidán 2. 10. 2022
- Sunreef continues to dazzle with its large cats and they don't come much bigger than this. The electric powered 80 Eco is covered with composite-integrated solar panels and has hydro-generating propulsion. Toby Hodges toured this first model at Cannes Yachting Festival 2022
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I've seen a two-man crew dock this monster, in maybe 2 minutes, with an absurd, nonchalant kind of ease. It's got to be one of the most impressive things I've ever seen but also most annoying to see people so much better than me! 😋
I have a friend with an electric Sunreef 50 - got invited to go sail on it in the Med for 3 days last summer. The 50 is "huge" - this thing must be an absolute beast! (FYI: I'm not wealthy or really much of a boat guy, the three days was plenyfor me).
Ask your rich friend to paypal me some money i need it
Thank you Toby - always a pleasure to be shown around by you...Hope one can see this boat under action and heavy weather
Thanks Helmut
It's about time!
Congratulations to Sunreef!!!
I would order one today......
Sadly I don't have enough friends to fill that open entertainment space.
"But wait" you say, if you build it friends will come.
Again, sadly I don't like having friends that much either.
Lol, I am pretty sure an 80’ boat generates friends
Been trying to hit the LOTTO several times a month for that yacht.
me too.....would be my first purchase
Thank you Toby. An exceptional presentation as always.
Thank you kindly!
Stunning vessel, inside and out. HOWEVER!!! let's be honest Toby, no heated towel bar?! Im a little taken back that our favorite creature comfort was not mentioned or does this yacht not feature ALL the best features? 😆😉
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I bet the mining involved for all those batteries was super eco-friendly
Excellent video. Thank you
I really love a yacht like this - even though it is way beyond anything I could ever have for myself, it still seems like a home much more than the mega-yachts that seem more like hotels.
Having catamaran and trimaran experience, this 80 pushes all my buttons except I would want more power when necessary. But the square footage is absolutely astounding!!! And I hear Sunreef is building a 165ft cat!! No telling what that one would sell for, maybe $30million+. I bet the beam would be 80ft. or more!!
@@dieseldog00 I imagine owning such things - the only reason I watch videos like this. In my imaginary life I am a mono-hull devotee.
Very much enjoyed your tour! What a boat! Very well presented. I like your style!
Thank you Ariela!
Amazing Yacht!... Ese es el que compraré.
Great concept 👌
Beautiful catamaran......
I stood behind one of these berthed stern to in Denia in back in March. You really get an idea of the size close up. I did not see if it was the same one as the video as I was not looking for solar panels and it was stern on. I know a couple of the stars that have them, the tennis and one of the ex f1 drivers have power versions. As a serious cruising sailor it would be interesting to see how one performed on an ocean passage, not that it will ever be in my price range.
all what plagues you is doubt..and lack..that is your energy..stop self doubt and stop self lack..all is well...last comment of yours was filled ocean passage, not that it will ever be in my price range. you mind is arguing with you..tame your tiger..or dragon..every thing is possible at any time..and any place...smile..and relax..stop the over annilitical mind...every thing is fine..and keep smiling and laughing..no doubt..what so ever...blessings to you
I can't wait for Rico and Victoria to give us a tour of the monstrous new 164(and the Power210 when SUNREEF builds it).
Wow! 🎉❤
I see a lot of hangover
That dark surface must get very hot. You'll need a lot of power run the a/c
I was thinking about that too. I know companies make UV paints that reflect the heat. I think I would select a lighter colour. But, I guess it might be moot with all of the black solar panels :)
@@ToeTag1968 best way to reflect UV/Infra Red is with a white surface, hence the number of white boats. It also has the best pigment stability
@@user-oe2ti1fb8r True. What I was getting at is that with all of the black solar panels on it and teak decking, the paint colour that you see probably wouldn't matter a whole bunch. I'd still probably go a lighter colour like a light pastel blue, green, or traditional white.
most of the surface is solar panels so the temperature probably averages out to be the same with a white paint. white paint reflects 10 to 20% of sun's energy while solar panels absorb 20+% of sun's energy. painting the spaces in between the panels white is gonna look weird for that extra bit of heatproof.
I run solar powered AC on my offgrid cabin, and the beauty of it is usually the hottest time of day generates the most usable power for such luxuries as climate control. And it allows me to get away with a smaller battery bank, as I don't need to store the energy for later, I just use it right then and there when it's most needed.
Imagine if Gunboat, bañulsdesign, McConaghy or Marsaudon Composites did a ~80ft Performance trimaran. Something that looked like the Rapido 60, Banuls/McConaghy 53 tri, or the Dragonfly 40. Something with a folding dinghy garage in the stern...
I would guess that there is a remote control for mooring. Do Cats have mooring thrusters ?
Where is the engine/technical room?
Remove the fly bridge and bring down the boom 3 meters ... and the barn might even sail ... somewhat ...
Nah, barnyachtiniums are meant to be like that.
It's not designed for participation in the Sydney to Hobart my friend, give credit where it's due?
Just looks wrong. 💯 % agree
We have a naval engineer over here...
Yeah there are plenty of cats that don’t have fly bridge. What are you gonna do for the people who want one, get another brand to make one. Then your gonna go there and tell the to remove flybridge too.
Wow, might start buying lotto tix again!
👍🏻…opulent!
Great to receive a new review from Toby. Though I would prefer to see a real sailboat...
Is a Lagoon a "real sailboat"?
It is better than no battery or no hydrogen generation.
I know 2 owners of these very yachts and they regret buying them.
Solar farm?! OMG
I think its proportions are a bit gosh if you ask me. Then again, it is set up for entertaining at the dock. I'm not going to comment on the interior color choices. Very nice, if you don't plan on sailing anywhere.
it might have a bunch of solar panels, but does it have a soul?
Si j'ai gagné le lotto....allons-y!
Yet... plugged in to shore power.....
It needs 4 wind mills on the back
Incredible, in a non pejorative way.
Is it recyclable?
Nope
#dace Club
Mega cat's - yes; Fly bridges - NO. Deal breaker!
The overall impression I get is that this is a status symbol for a landlubber, maybe a Bond villain. I doubt that the owner has ever heard the term "windage." Why 2 generators AND a zillion solar cells? Too much is never enough.
All those solar panels and a sail boat, I would say it's more Eco friendly than even Silent yachts. Apparently people on Silent yachts still have to run their generator 1-4 hours per day. With that much solar you should be able to run the hotel load pretty well and run the engines for a good 20 to 30 NM. I would say that's pretty eco-friendly (er) than most other yachts including all the new 'hybrids' that keep coming out. Lurssen is trying out hydrogen and many ship builders are looking at molten salt, which is similar to nuclear technology.
This boat has two diesel inboard engines for when not crusing under sail, along with two diesel powered generators. It does not have any electricrically driven propulsion. The solar planels only provide charging power for the hotel battery bank. All the vertical panels are useless, as solar power generation off reflection of oceanwater is zero. It's just a flex as it's the company owner's boat showing off what they "can" do in terms of construction technology (panel intergration). It's a technology demonstrator, nothing is practical or useful in the real world.
@@TexasStormChaser that boat has only electric propulsion. Diesel generators back up just in case solar panels are not enough. Solar panels charge both hotel load and propulsion.
@@anastasiyamyslivets969 I find that impossible, that size boat wouldn't be able to use electric propulsion. Simply not enough solar or battery. Range would be... maybe 10-15nm on battery before you had to run the diesel generator constantly. That's more inefficent and less "green" than just using diesel propulsion.
I know there are specs available for this boat, but my question is, how well does she sail? I know she's not a lightweight racing cat, but I'd want to not crawl around the world at 6 knots for years on end.
I imagine under power she probably does around 5-7kn, but an 80ft cat will easily sail at 9kn+ all day. Rather be in a Gunboat going 25+, but I imagine the type of owner who buys a Sunreef isn't really that interested in competitive sailing, but rather in entertaining
@@GoodkatNW Polars would be interesting...
The owners fly in while the crew sails it to whatever destination is chosen. I am pretty sure it can do a lot more than 6 knots. There is a lot of sail area there.
@@GoodkatNW Imagine if Gunboat, bañulsdesign, McConaghy or Marsaudon Composites did a ~80ft Performance trimaran. Something that looked like the Rapido 60, Banuls/McConaghy 53 tri, or the Dragonfly 40. Something with a folding dinghy garage in the stern...
@@angela1984a Would be wicked! I've always wanted to see a cruising version of the RTW tri record holders. It would have an extremely limited market of course, so unlikely to ever see it happen
eco stands for economical
I believe in the future there will be rigid automated wingsails with infused solar cells and so between the solar covering all the surfaces facing every angle and automation on a wingsail one will be able to maintain a decent clip under any combination of conditions.
Agreed - they are already designed and in the pipeline for superyachts!
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Entirely bereft of charm, atmosphere and that "I'm on a boat"-feeling, if you ask me. But I am biased, I must admit. I'd prefer a 40-footer which can be sailed singlehandedly any day of the week!
price
... is listed in the specs at the end
Eco, yeah sure.
Which flag is on that yacht?
I've got a 48' catamaran, and it's a handful for me... Barely fits on most travel lifts with it's 25' beam, and finding a place to haul out for hurricane season can be a real pain in the ass. I can't imagine how big a pain in the 80' would be... I guess if your goal in life was to piss away all your money on marina fees it's quite doable, but ugh... Taking it somewhere has to be a complete headache. That said, I do love the size of the rooms... Mine are quite comfortably large, but these are truly roomy...
I saw a CZcams video of a large cat that transited the Panama Canal and had some problem and needed to get hauled out. They had to go back through the canal because there was no place near that could haul them because of their beam. Imagine what that cost.
@@robm.7568 Fortunately that wasn't me. I specifically bought the 48' that I did because it would still fit in a lot of travel lifts beam wise. I'm quite glad I didn't go any bigger as 25' seems to be the max that most places can haul out.
Gunboat 90 'Sunshine' is something to behold. Seen her in a few harbors over the years but she stays out on the hook mostly. WHY would you want to go anywhere near a marina?
@@dancarter482 Sometimes it's nice to just hook up to shore power and be able to just walk somewhere instead of having to ride a mile on the dinghy.
@@edwardnigma2216 "nice" comes with a price!
멋지다.육지에 올려 집으로 사용하고싶다
if i become a millionaire definitely buying. room for each of my concubines.
Personally prefer the Gunboat docked at the end of the jetty 😜. Why the Bulgarian flag?
Show the crew cabins please
Sorry they were out of bounds... as the crew were, well, living there!
6ou said a 3ngine or motor as usual in each Hull, electric or diesel ?
It's a great idea to cover a boat in solar. Do it for the majority so it actually counts. Great display of what can be accomplished. Cars need to get this done 2 years ago.
If you covered an entire tesla model 3 in solar panels, it would take approx. two months to charge the car if left in a parking lot without any cloudy days. That's why nobody does it.
@@TexasStormChaser tesla model 3 is a terrible design of car and not very efficient. the aptera has a solar roof.
you need all that electric power to get anywhere on the condomaran, what speed does do under sail? under power?.....
Whatever, Haters! This is the coolest boat ever.
Looks a bit cheap in spite of the price. I'm sure the newly rich in Dubai will fancy that party boat in the marina. It's of course not intended for sailing oceans. For that money you can get a custom alu monohull from a Dutch yard that can sail around the world.
The clip at the very end, I am not impressed by the rippled padding above your head.
looking clunky for an 80 footer
That is an understatement.
I love the idea of an 80 ft catamaran, as well as an Eco-friendly cat, but ... everything is BLACK! It's like a Bond-villain catamaran. Can it come in other colors?
I think you can order it in any colour John!
The biggest problem
It’s a Sunreef
Why?
@@CG-99 because he's poor and can never step aboard a sunreef.
What is ECO about the resources squandered in creating this
Look at what else is created in this category of yachts... This at least is A LOT better than a lot of other stuff... Just as one example: It doesn't have several metric tons of LEAD hanging in a keel...
@@angela1984a Logically you are right: the only person in the world who needs to change is whoever consumes the most, everyone can wait their turn until they are the highest consumer. Also, by your logic hitler is "good" because stalin killed more people.
Envy much. I'll tell you.. it uses less energy in terms of fossil fuels.
@@cpvsgvmnt2116 it may be green in that it doesn't use fossil fuel but OVERALL no one should squander the amount of resources and energy to create this thing. So much greenwashing .
@@johnlindawoertendyke8981 people can squander what resources they want. It's their money. How about this.. when you have 25 million to drop.. you can go and do what you want with it. I swear.. you liberals love telling people what to do. Reminds me.of another liberal telling me I should own the several homes I have.
A better cat than we see these days. The critical question is whether or not the headsails are keeled academic least wind resistant keeling design. So mad is keeled and the headsails are more severely keeled. Blade keeling stem to stern academic keeling design reduces heeling over and increases speed of the sailboat. Free advice to consider is shifting to edison generator and dynamos power systems. Zero fuel electric power without plastic solar panels or fossil fuels. A permanent magnet motor as a generator powering dynamos that are electric motors as generators can easily produce electricity needed in a small space. 13 kw per generator at 110volt AC.
An Oman 320 kilowatt without fuel can be made.
I get why they say it as a marketing ploy but calling it eco is so superfluous, it's a sailboat, it is quite evidently eco. What's next the sunseeker floats
So they use solar power and ocean water to generate green hydrogen ?
Why are they called cockpits and not decks? I’ve always been curious lol
Very interesting I find it that you do these tours with all the fluff but then you just gloss over and don't cover anything about the engines like they don't matter and you say nothing about the Toro solar generating power and recharge times nor technical data just fluff Oh that's pretty bads motorcycle courageous carpet beautiful woodwork great sitting areas oh fluff no substance so my question is what the hell are you trying to hide?
Add a wind generator. Lots of wind at sea
i am really astonished, that no one is pointing out the dismal sea-faring capabilities of this stitched floating vane...
The ECO industry…or whatever it’s called, is only possible with fossil fuels and materials. Take solar panels, which are made possible from quartz and _coal_ being melted together. And how are those two melted together? Burning more _coal_ as a heat source to melt them. Wind turbines blades are fiberglass…a _petroleum_ product based product. The list goes on and on.
Old technology is always used to make new technology. It doesn't mean we shouldn't try to improve, right?
@@ToeTag1968 …I agree, we should always strive to advance and invent new methods of making our systems better, but that’s not the point of my above comment. It’s the constant lying by the environmental and green energy side that is the problem. There’s a 2019 documentary titled _Planet of the Humans_ which showcases and exposes the absolute fraud of the entire renewable energy industry. Surprisingly, it was funded by Michael Moore, a somewhat radical leftist…so he deserves a lot of credit for exposing the truth about the green industry. These environmental and clean energy groups smear fossil fuels as practically being evil, yet they’re using those vary evil sources to produce their not-so-clean and green and renewable energy. Research into lithium mining sites and the enormous toll they take on the environment, it’s bad. Really bad. But you’ll hear nothing from the those groups about how environmentally toxic those sites are. Instead they’ll pivot onto something else to avoid the conversation. Now, I’m not saying the fossil fuel and material industries are saints…far from it, and they lie as well. My point is stop the lying and *just tell the truth.*
tread mills?!
Yep!
1 helm to port is just a straight up clown move- makes it unpurchasable
Its beautiful however max knots is probably 5. Id rather go with a Seawinds 1600 or Gunboat 60 or Xquisite 60 and go way faster
A report put out in the car market that a electric car compared to a fuel car has to do 90000 miles before its more eco friendly ,
it's well known for years that there is more of a carbon footprint in producing an EV compared to an ICE vehicle. the 90,000 miles is grossly exaggerated and besides, even using your stat; Average ICE vehicle lifespan is 200,000+ miles, new BLADE EV batteries can get 300K+ miles. so, you do the math on eco savings of 1 EV compared to 1 ICE Vehicle over its expected lifecycle.
@@vorjay my experience with electric vehicles , and battery power , the battery cells will fail at the 90k Mark, esp with more charges .
@@davidwarnes5158 well first of all. most lithium ion batteries in EV vehicles are under warranty for replacement if they don't retain 75% of their charge after 150,000 miles or 8 years. so, I'll just chalk this up as "my experience is...I just read it on the internet"
@@vorjay read on the internet by the supplier builder , rubbing chin, Evan if those batteries are under warranty, that just extends to period of not as green as conventional , ffs
Those new ones then become a new car . Lol keep reading
ECO with a diesel back up.
Errm is it plugged into shore power 😂
You'll have to make sure after every wave, you wash the salt off or you'll be losing at least half the charging capacity
If Darth Vader had a yacht...
...it would be something without sails, solar panels, hydro generators and batteries.
Bonding the panels to the hull is such a stupid idea, not only the exposure is sub-optimal so you'll generate almost nothing but you also cannot properly cool the panels (which is fundamental for the efficiency and lifespan of the cells), not to mention that if you ever need to replace them, be it because of accidental damages or reaching the natural end life of the panels, you CANNOT do it without an extensive refit... There's nothing "ECO" about this, it's just marketing fluff to make feel better rich yuppies.
My thoughts were the same what about the environmental issues in the building of the boat I won't call it a yacht and by the time the solar panels need replacing the rich owner will have moved on to the next toy
An aluminum hull is cooled by the seawater. This wouldn't work with fiberglass but would be just fine on metal.
Agree with you on the lifespan of the panels requiring a VERY expensive refit down the line on a then 20-year-old boat. Cost would be prohibitive and likely never done. Those with the money to do it would likely just buy a new one.
But, the boat could still be used as a sail catamaran with generators and low input from solar.
Island packet 439
Is this a power-from-shore cable at 2:10?
Seriously? What are all the solar panels for? Or is it feeding into the grid? 🤔
Sometimes I wonder ….
It’s a bit too much of everything. A floating luxury apartment, but not a yacht any longer. But you can’t argue about taste.
Why black? That is going to be an oven in the sun.
Either to help disguise the solar panels - or to be a Bond villain?
engines are electric also, not traditional
Nix the mast and make it a MY. That thing is not a sailing vessel.
Lthium batteries last a few years, solar panels optimistically between 10 -20 but efficiency will decrease. Thew modern material this boat is made from (epoxy and carbon fibre) cannot be recycled or is too energy intensive , i.e., would be no environmental saving, plus endocrine compounds leaching out from the materials. and all the electronic. I just don't see how this is eco-friendly. How much would a wooden ketch with hemp rope rigging cost to build?
Awesome boat. But let's get back to reality with boats under 50 FEET
Ok ok. How about this one, just posted: czcams.com/video/mDOgguCxiQs/video.html
Very impressive, this technology will end up in all new sail boats :) With a worsening climate crisis the consumption of luxury goods and services is going to have to be rationed, rich folks can charter boats like these but they can't own them, the decarbonisation of industry will be very resource intensive so we'll all have to tighten our belts.
why would they put panels in the hull??? the degradation rate couldn't have improved that much... I guess if you have all the money in the world don't care it being useless in a few years w/e
it makes sense, because other locations add windage. It doesn't make sense because the boat will get too hot inside.
"Eco". 😂🤡
That is truly the ugliest yacht I have seen for a long time. By the way Rafa's Sunreef is a power cat, not a yacht.
lol. any boat used for recreational use over 40 feet is generally referred to an consider a 'yacht' and considering it's considered a yacht under CE YACHT COMPLIANCE CLASSIFICATION in EU it's a fucking yacht.
keep walking while you talk dud
ok dud
What a waste of time and energy.
Too high, too few sails and too heavy. A catamaran to sail from one port to another with motor support or have the Eco 80 transported by another ship. A floating house. Probably not suitable for blue water. The thing is so heavy that the normal speed is probably just 5 knots!
No way would I own an electric boat now that I have seen a Tesla battery fire...All I see is massive pollution when the batteries need changing
otherwise it is a beautiful vessel...
horrible looking thing
What dreary colours and dismally dark interiors. It's all the trend don't y' know. Absolutely ghastly. But those unbelievably ugly green sofa/chairs. Someone actually designed them and thought "these'll look great on a boat". The dreariest vessel I've ever laid eyes upon. And all that eco talk is bullshit. The materials, engines, monstrous interior, hull, bonding and other manufacturing processes make this "vessel" a long way from "eco". Some boat designers have lost the plot nowadays - but there'll be plenty of rich folks with no taste to buy them sadly.
Which I don't like is the Russian flag!
@@michal03966 A ok, I didn't see well! Thank you for the clarification! 😉
@@selleluca It's a Russian owner though.
@@eelcobrouwer1838 He said it belongs to the owner of Sunreef, who is the CEO/Founder Francis Lapp (born in France)
What’s the problem if there’s a Russian flag, or that it’s owned by a Russian?
@@eelcobrouwer1838 the owner is Francis Lapp the French owner of Sunreef and the company is in Poland.
Who is this boat for? A person that does not like sailing, does not like outdoors, does not believe in self-reliance, does not care about design fluidity, does not like solitude, has no connection with sea stories, read no history books lately or ever, has a limited understanding of the environment and the physics laws, has no friends to get advices from, has no intelligent partner. Nevertheless, has a good financial situation, which is the only thing that matters when offer meets demand.
50 TONS of PLASTIC and they call it eco.
( carbon fiber IS 100% plastic )
it's an eco-friendlier alternative to the current trends in motor yachting.
@@vorjay Actualy no, it's as non recyclable as fiberglass witch was banned in car manufacturing at the end of the 1980's. Carbon Fiber is 100% polymer. (plastic derivative from crude oil, put simply.)
@@pirateracer69 I wasn't talking about the material used to make the hull, I was talking about the yacht in general. it uses 20% less fuel under power than the original Sunreef 80 and can-do ocean crossings on sail only. which is why they are calling it the Sunreef 80 eco. why are you people this way?