Windows 10 GAMING on a $100 Mac Pro 5,1 from 2012... Is it Possible...?
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
- I finally got my hands on a X58 XEON infused Mac Pro 5.1 (been wanting to get one that works since the Japan parts hunt days).
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So this Mac Pro 5.1 came along... for $100... It features 2 x X5650, 32GB of ram (!) to make 12 cores / 24 threads. Though with 2 heavily DATED cards (HD 5770), there will surely have to be something done in order to get this system to function a little.... better
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Contents
00:00 Intro
00:32 2012 Hardware.... 32GB of Ram and 12 cores and 24 threads, Apple wasn't messing around.
04:01 Graphics Cards... HD 5770s... Xfire in a MAC?
05:18 Installing Windows was actually quite easy, UEFI interface.
07:10 THE GTX 1070 DOESN'T WORK, WHAT AM I GONNA DOEOAEHOAEH
10:35 Testing that GTX 1070 Performance... at 1080p in Apex, Fortnite, GTA 5 and New World.
12:11 Conclusion, The Mac Pro 5.1 is a weird one!
16:27 Will bicycle parts get cheaper?
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Forgot to add... this thing is legit HEAVY AS, like hernia producing heavy, so be careful if you do ever come into one not to just try hulk it off the ground quickly.
Hey can u pick up a think centre m700 sff n see if that can run 2021 titles thanks 😊 🙏
Can confirm about the weight, bought one from a 2nd hand dealers in Bondi Junction, had to carry it to train station, had to stop to rest about 10 times for the 1km walk, almost killed me......
Great Video. You nailed the assessment. It's an X58 system. And it has limitations today (no AVX2). While it can game, it's not a gaming system and is best suited for someone who wants to try macos on the cheap. Let us know how much it sells for in a future vid!
hope you used AMD catalyst 15.7 with those 5770 video cards for windows 10 or windows 7
@@nix123ism dang, that’s a story you won’t forget, for me the heaviest pc was my dads dell all-in one, weighed about 40 pounds, yet my atx build is way lighter.
You need to boot into MacOS and upgrade to 10.14. That kicks off an EFI upgrade that enables NVME boot and kicks the PCIe slots back to 2.0 (they’re 1.0 for non recognized GPUs otherwise).
Beat me to it!
would be cool to see a video him trying all this :)
@@reggiexp69 Look on CZcams for some other channels which are "mostly MAC" (all MAC lol) and they will have a walk through of "make that old MAC new again!" as in putting in more/newer video cards, SSD, NVMe, Thunderbolt3, etc. Some good content out there!
Yeah, I was gonna ask if he'd done all the firmware upgrades.
I managed to pick up a Mac Pro like this locally for $100. However it was missing a side panel, which are easy enough to get. But the seller felt bad, so to make it up to me, he tossed in an Apple keyboard, mouse and monitor for the $100 price. You can't complain about that!
I’ve owned a lot of these, recommend upgrading to x5680s or x5690s. For cheap gpus, 7950/7970/280 can be easily flashed for boot screens, rx570/580. Can run opencore easy and run latest MacOS, dual boot into windows 10. I ran a vega vii in mine and played games at 1440p in windows . You left a lot of performance on the table but it’s okay you don’t know the system, I’d recommend keeping it a little while and learning about it.
5690s are dirt cheap--no one wants them. Running MACOS the speed boost with them and 96GB of RAM is noticeable. I was going to mention flashing the BIOS/cards. Thanks for jumping in on that because so many forget/don't know they can. I'm sure he just wants to sell it off for PC parts. If he maxed this out he could (likely) get $300-$400AU over what he'd pay for parts. People in Sydney and all. ;)
How do you power a Vega Vii in one of these?
8:00 It will actually make it to the OS, you just won't get boot picker screen or a boot screen at all. If you already have an OS installed, you can boot into it just fine with a non-mac GPU. It's preferred to have a mac flashed card, though.
Feels like the Tech Yes Man really lives up to the motto "it's downside up" - cause he can turn almost anything from a downside to an upside
One of the best machines Apple ever produced, I still use my 2009 Mac Pro as a main machine, upgraded to 12 Cores @ 3GHz with 64GB RAM, 1TB PCI SSD as a startup drive, 32TB on HDD Storage (2x8Tb and 1x16TB with one slot still free) and an RX580 that drives my 30" Apple Cinema Display like a charm... You can use OpenCore Patcher to upgrade the OS to the latest version of Monterey and everything works perfect. That's why these machines are still very valuable.
Love how you solve everything and tell us how! Wouldn’t expect anything less from the YES man
Takes me back to 2008 when I was on the Microsoft campus in Sandton, Johannesburg and pretty much all employees had Macbooks with Vista running - since it was the first version of Windows to run UEFI BIOS.
yeah Australia got some weird shit, where every usless mac keeps it high price.
I spent some time in 2020 gaming with a 2006 1,1 Mac Pro, with 8gb of RAM, SATA SSD and a GTX 285. Weirdest thing was that this specific Mac ran Windows 10 better than any other patched MacOS versions later than the last officially supported 10.7 Lion.
I still see some groups related to Mac Pros and people still use them with current powerful GPUs, like the 5700XT, Vegas and the Radeon VII. Some still use NVidia cards, but they lost support after MacOS 10.13 High Sierra.
These Macs have a weird power delivery circuit to the GPUs, requiring 2 proprietary 6-pin cables that go through the main motherboard. If they suck too much power, above 225W IIRC, the Mac shuts down. Users mod the power supply to add cables straight to the GPU.
Ah thanks for letting me know that, just saw the price of the originals selling on ebay and thought I wouldn't go too crazy on it :P
@@techyescity I believe these mac's also have a PCIe lane configuration utility , you would have to boot up once into the appropriate mac os for this series to get it to run. I have a 2007 mac pro and i have it set so the original mac card has 8x but the 980Ti gets 16X lanes.
good ole plx mod :)
@@amdintelxsniperx No
@@billg6059 yes that's his you convert the psu to handle more power hungry gpus
The case is awesome. Always loved the way it looks. It's a great piece of design considering its age.
Bryan, loved the video as always! I have the same Mac Pro. I’m running 2 Xeon 12c/24t at 3.33ghz, 96 gb ecc ram, 15tb storage, add in PCI NVME card 1tb NVME SSD, pci USB type c card and a RX 580 8gb OC graphics card. Even in Mac OS I play games just fine via steam. Mac OS doesn’t need anything but an AMD to boot via metal. Don’t even need the Mac flash in the card. Just thought I’d share. I’ve used a lot of your videos and built many X58 systems with your recommendations. Thank you!!
I love the way these look and how the insides look so sleek.
You are a wealth of information, thank u for making videos for us.
I've been wanting to see you mess with the Mac pro dual x58 for a while. Good video!
Thank you for thinking out of the box and testing odd combinations.
I had the 2008 3,1 dual quadcore xeon with 32ggb ddr2, ran it with a vega 64 in both windows 10 and the latest MacOS version. These days it's just running with an RX570 on Catalina or Big Sur.
those mac edition ATI cards had driver issues sometimes in windows.
When repurposing old Mac Pros go Radeon. there is a workaround to run GTX cards alone in windows so you don't lose access to the other slot. cause those are prime PCIe SSD slots.
Best mac ever built! So expandable, upgradable. I remember trying to put in extra HDs into older Macs. You almost needed 3 hands
The cases are so beautiful! What other case that old is such a looker?
Could the MP PSU be used to power an ATX motherboard? I have an older MP that is broken but has a cool case...
For XTU, you have to download an older version, my system worked very well with older releases but the latest one gives the same “unsupported platform” prompt.
The 5770s are perfectly fine for eSports they just have a Mac BIOS on them which makes them run like shit in windows
Probably. Recently I tried an old HD5670 on my current Windows 11 machine. It ran Heaven and 3DMark Sky Diver without a problem. It's weak but still working.
@@user-qz9gs9nn1t i had a 7570 (despite 7000 series it was still terascale 2) and it could run many esports titles at lower settings well
Unique content as always :)
2:50 How you could get a logic board for dual CPU Mac Pro 2009-2012 to have socket bracket like this? Do we can just get any broken X58 board and just put the socket mechanism on it just like that? (There's o socket lock mechanism in Dual CPU Mac Pro 2009-2012 as far as I remembered and the one I have also doesn't has these brackets)
speakin of overclocking x58, do you think you might make an x58 overclocking guide for 2022?
5770's should run Heaven fine..... 2009 software / 2009 GPU - they were the go to GPU for MAC's and probably still are..... I remember buying a few for peanuts and selling them on as MAC cards for triple the price.... some would work on Apples like the Sapphire ones ;)
This was my thought too - Heaven is a really old benchmark, so should work fine on an old card.
I've done the same thing on a 5870 on a 2008 Mac Pro, ran just fine; if a little slow.
I agree, the 5770 should run Heaven fine. Heck, it runs Fortnite in performance mode at 60+ fps at 1080p.
I love these machines, excellent design and great longevity
Hello! Loved the vid, I know that you can install windows on a Mac but is it possible the other way around, MacOs on a pre-built/enthusiast pc?
Best regards from France !!
Really great machine Bryan!
You got the dual socket one too. Just the cpu tray for dual cpu go for $600 usd. You got a really good deal
Do these Macs support single QPI CPUs? Or dual QPI Link chips only, a la Dell Precision T5500?
Try booting it with a single W35XX or W36XX CPU and get back to me with whether it works or not. If it does I have a followup tip for you!
I'd like to note that the reason you may not have been able to overclock is that if this used the tylersburg 5500/5520 instead of the tylersberg x58 chipset i've never gotten XTU to work. It may have just been the BIOSes of those boards, but i've always gotten the error "unable to install on unsupported platform'
Extremely good deal. I have been looking for years and could never find one under $500. Best I could find was two 2009 single cpu mac pro computers for $200 and another with a damaged handle for $50. The seller did throw in an apple monitor and 3 apple keyboards.
Can you put the best videocard rtx 30xx you have and do some benchmarks? Please?
An old Radeon card doing it's best and holding up a good GeForce card. And people say AMD fine wine is a lie?
"She's dead captain!"
"Yar, but she still be pullin' her weight."
Brilliant video - funny I just bought one of these - doesn’t boot apparently so the guy sold it to me for $70 so I’m going to see what I can do to bring this beauty back to life!
did Throttlestop not work either? Maybe I missed it but I only heard you mention XTU. Throttlestop is what I used to get my W3680 Dell and HP workstations to 3.9GHz and 4GHz respectively.
@Tech Yes City:
I have used the hd 5770 about 2 weeks ago on a Athlon x4 system.. Was getting 60FPS on 720p.. Wonder if you had driver troubles.
I have one, and love it :) 2012, dual X5690s, 64GB, multiple SSDs, RX580, runs Mojave, Ubuntu, Windows10, and ESX. Opencore for boot graphics and drive selection, etc.
Hey man, can you make an updated video on Windows 10 Yes Edition with the lastest version of Windows 10, or maybe even an Windows 11 version?
How did you get one for 100$?!? Mine cost 400$ with the dual cpu tray
Was awesome piece of kit. Check 2009/2010 iMac 27" 1366/mxm graphics still usable today
I just bought that same case ( internal parts) at goodwill for $14. I am definitely making my sleeper PC now
Managed to buy a Mac Pro for £130 and he included two untested thunderbolt displays 27”. The both work fine
Be careful pulling the cpu tray in and out of the back plane socket. I made that mistake once and bent pins in the backplane. It was a costly mistake
Cool video, ima subscribe
Ok 👌
I've been running Windows 10 on a Mac Pro 5.1 from late 2009 using a 1050 TI for a GPU for several years now to great success. I can play plenty of modern games on high settings. I also installed Windows natively, not via Bootcamp, which actually I slightly regret because it makes it wonky when it comes to Bluetooth among a couple of other minor things but for gaming it's been excellent.
Hi can you play gran turismo sport or forza horizon on this?
Loved it
Did you drop down to DX10 for Heaven Bench? If I recall, the 6xxx series is the low limit for DX11.
5000 has dx11
You probably have to update the Firmware of the Mac. That is why it wont boot with newer GPUs. Mine works flawlessy with RTX20 series GPUs under Windows, withouth the original Mac EFI Bios GPU installed (you just lose the Boot screen).
Hi! Long time watcher, first time commenting on something I actually owned for over 2 years! I blight my Mac Pro 4,1 flashed to a 5,1 bios for 600 dollars at the time. (The only difference with the two models are the delided cpu’s) and I managed to max spec it up, with the highest xeons and 128 gigs of ram (but I think the system runs faster on 96 in triple channel). I do miss it, like a lot. I was that tinker guy who ran macOS (via opencore! This fixed the boot menu on graphics cards) and windows via parallel at the same time! I felt more productive in macOS and left the gaming to windows. I did a lot of video editing, photography, and high intensity application work. I sold it though :(. You mod and load custom firmware to a point where it’s just a hackintosh. I was lacking pcie 3.0, my graphics card wasn’t getting its full speed, no sata 3, no usb 3, and under a load this mofo was a space heater, and a lot of applications are shying away from dual CPU’s and more times they cause more issues. I managed to sell it for 1300 CAD with all my upgrades and I did turn a profit but man I spent days tinkering with the system.
I have basically your same setup, adding SATA3 and Thunderbolt3. 96GB is much better/faster than 128GB. These are good for video editing, documentation, photo editing. Adobe Suite and Apple's Suite runs better under MACOS than under Windows. While this whole setup would be great with PCIe GEN4 (or GEN5), It's still plenty fast using NVMe and SATA3 drives. I never saw these as a "gaming system." Neither did Apple. Parallels is absolutely the way to Windoze-a-MAC. Always loved their software, hate their pricing plans. LOL
@@Doesntcompute2k At the time I was a poor uni student and i did want to get the NVME PCIE 3.0 cards but the drives costed a pretty penny at the time. I'm glad that you are enjoying the system it's a power house for sure for the price. There is this one youtuber named Morgonaut, and I think she's onto something with virtualization. If I still had my 4,1 this probably would of been the next step to run mac and windows at the same time in a linux VM and get almost like Metal performance without the patches and moded operating systems. Anyways cheers! Happy 2022
@@jfrmegroup Thanks man! Funny you mention her: I really can't stand her. LOL She spends video after video telling people WHAT she's going to do, never doing it, but always teasing. She could have simply told people how to install Proxmox, video cards, do passthru, and install the three OS and have been done by now. I'm pretty sure that's where she's going with running MACOS, Windows, and Linux. I've done that myself already and it runs very good on Ryzen and Threadrippers.
I've got one "perfect old MAC Pro" running 10.14 which is my main MAC. I can do everything on a Windows box but MACOS runs a lot of things better. And I don't game on my working workstations (I made a Ryzen 5950x for that). I like a lot about MAC. Don't like Apple's attitude. They missed really getting a LOT of older MAC Pros into peoples hands by not posting instructions to update, mod, on their website. Oh well, it's Apple! LOL
I saw the thumbnail and thought “Oh my!”
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my 2,1 boots fine with a gtx 1070 it just dosnt show boot screen .
the mac pro is by far my favourite computers ever made
By any chance can you show us how to install Windows 10 on these Mac Pros?
Also worth a re-visit after you've installed OpenCore, you might get rid of the ATI card afterwards....
Will it run gran turismo sport?
I got a a quad core mac pro 4,1 2009 for free ..upgraded to a 5690 6 core/rx570 card and nvme and it was quite the machine.. effortless power,cool as a cucumber and fast as well as h264/hevc decoding/encoding ... I always had an eye out for a dual tray and finally got one for 125.00 us dollars...it has the 2 x5690's and 64gb ddr3 1333mhz ram... Finally, ive got one of these that I had fantasized about for quite a while.. running sonoma and 4 other mac os systems And win 11 on a single nvme... I cant see how most people wouldnt be pleased with how smooth and effortlessly fast these beasts are even in 2023..sure there are Faster rigs but this is still a Fast machine and handles everything without the slightest hint of strain.
Damn, the case is in such good condition
The BMX bikes in Stranger Things were off by a few years, which shook the immersion pretty quick. Knee saver bars and Odyssey Gyros weren't invented for another 4 and 2 years respectively after what you saw in Stranger Things.
Are you aware, that installing Windows via Bootstick on a cMP will write Windows certificates into the NVRAM of the BootROM, which then can brick your cMP ?
It’s fun seeing a Mac noob trying one out for the first time. Buddy you don’t need that 5770 in there just to boot to windows 10. I’m running a 5,1 with a non standard gpu and it’s just a black screen until I hit windows desktop.
Oh fuck yeah bud. Wanted some Tech Yes ingenuity with the Macs.
Brian I think you installed the wrong NimeZ drivers, what you need is the terascale pre gcn drivers because the hd 5000 series is based on terascale architecture. If I'm wrong please reply
Also need to flash the vbios to use it properly in windows
@@virtualtools_3021 yeah that too. I was expecting more out of it since I actually use an HD 5770 right now and it seems to perform better than that.
Got a Mac pro 3,1 8-core about two years ago for 50 USD. Some guy had about ten that he'd used as servers and was just getting rid of them - I regret not buying them all and flipping them.
Anyway, I put a GTX 960 in it and it works great for older games. Despite the aging socket 771 Xeons I played through the 2016 doom no problems thanks to the Vulcan api.
Also have it set up with boot camp so I can switch to mac os if I ever need to without having to grab the original graphics card.
Very nice. I built one of these before the pandemic. Put a vega 64 in it and its supported by mac os natively. If you install open core then you can run the latest version.
i didnt get a discount using ur code but those scd keys r legit. I was skeptical at first but yeah pretty bad ass
omg i love x58! i still have my asus px58d-e with a triple channel patriot kit....so awesome long live the x5675
Still probably run better than mine
the 2012 mac pro is pretty much exactly the same as the 2010, which hardware is exactly the same as a 2009, just with different firmware. The main drawback of these machines is SATA II imo
maybe use the second 16x pcie slot to run a pcie to Nvme M.2 SSD for storage with a Sata SSD for the boot drive
You can even run them with an NVMe drive in a PCIe slot...but then you are limited by PCIe 2.0
Pcie 2.0 will run 3x faster then even sata3 I get 1600 Mbps over pcie 2.0 you won't notice a difference as a boot drive but as a storage drive it makes a huge difference
@@paulburkey2 this is true
@@paulburkey2 this what i did and Cyberpunk runs like butter
I had a few n idea GPU in my 5,1, Had a 1080 GTX, Titan X and Titan RTX all works fine in my 5,1 running windows 10 Pro but I sold the 5,1 a few years ago, Currently have the 7,1 running a Titan RTX again works fine, enjoyed your video brings back memories when I had a 5,1
7.1 Nice
Just bought 6x GTX 1070 Gigabyte OC for 2400AUD. All of them work just fine, but thermal paste was literally glued to the board and the heatsink. On some of them I had to leave some of the stuff behind and reapply the thermal paste. Any recommendations how to take that stuff off?
Heat gun or hair dryer i guess or leave the gpu on a stress test to heat it up if the gpu doesnt overheat with the current paste. Then turn off the pc and make sure ur pc is unplugged to take it off whne it is still warm from the stress test. That's all i can think of.
Plastic prying tool and scrap it off them clean with isopropyl
Dental floss and "saw" it off works good, also you can apply some electronics cleaner to soften it up
If the method with heat or alcohol does not help, try to carefully use paint thinner, but be careful, this thing is strong and could damage MB. Quickly wipe it falls anywhere it should not.
I got two Mac G5 cases that have been waiting for pc conversions for years. Life got in the way.
i have a working g5 dual core, its awesome for running old pro software like CS3
I gamed on an 8 core MacPro 3,1 for years. For the time it was screaming hardware. When the 8800GT died I upgraded to a 5870. Worked great until I tried playing Carmageddon Reincarnation and it was a slideshow. Build a Hackintosh PC to replace it. Gave it to my kid to use for a gaming computer. Eventually upgraded the GPU to a GTX 950 using hackintosh nvidia drivers. I did not need a mac GPU installed to get it to boot unless I wanted to work with the EFI boot menu, That still required me to swap for a Mac GPU on a rare occasion. I now use it as a legacy media transfer machine because it has both Firewire 400 and 800 ports on it for old camcorder tape transfer. It's been a trooper!
I had a 1st gen Intel Mac Pro. I played World of Warcraft on it in Windows via BootCamp, which played it 100% fine. The first basic GPU I had in it failed, and the used replacement also failed. I sold it before the third one might fail. There was only one gaming card stated that would have worked with it, and there were 4 tiers of Mac GPUs for it, I had the cheapest one.
These old Macs have a hard stop on which Mac OS version they will accept up to.
Love the content as always, nothing to add there, just wanted to know what remix is playing in the background while the game benchmarks are going, that thing slaps tits!
My 5,1 rocks 2022 RX6800XT, MONTEREY 12.6.1 WINDOWS 10 for gaming. Long live 5,1.
Ive upgraded to an M2 Macbook Pro, but i still use my 2011 MacPro 5,1 with 64GB , RX580 8b and 2x 5690 and its pretty good... Current A titles run pretty well in mid settings. Currently playing Psychonauts 2 in 1440p Highest settings and its sweet.
Wish there was a current production Mac Pro cheese grater style atx style case around for modern consumer hardware builds
I just found an imac G4 that someone thrashed, kinda looks like a sunflower 🌻, needs a techYES cleaning, and hope it works
I have the 2009 single tray model with 5.1 firmware xeon x3680, 12gb DDR3 triple channel, rx570 4gb ddr5, 240gb SSD, mac os Mojave. Going to install big Sur soon
Everyone is unloading these now. I got one for $150. had 80GB ddr3, 2 x5680's , 500GB ssd, and USB3.0. I added my Vega Frontier. This thing is awesome. I will sell my MP 3.1. That was near maxed out. Included all keyboard, mouse, and 24inch Cinema Display. Freaking deal!
The inflation numbers came in for the US this week.
7% highest inflation in 40 years.
The problem is, inflation doesn’t typically run backwards. They consider “negative inflation” a worse economic problem than high inflation.
Therefore prices aren’t going back to pre-pandemic levels.
i have some of theese old mac pro 5.1 laying around in my workshop i should probably do something with them too i think u can even throw in x5675 cpu´s in there
You should. They are still in demand. The x5675 are the best bang for buck as the x5690 are still too expensive
It will boot with custom GPU once you installed the os, just you need to wait for a long time
This is still a great machine in my opinion. I like the looks and i have the 2019 version of the Mac Pro. I was always a pc guy. Build my own computers and went up until Windows 7. When i was diagnosed with leukemia, i wanted a laptop because i was a lot in the hospital. But i want a reliable one. So i know, back in the days (2009) Windows laptops were getting better. But there were still a lot of problems with either the battery or the HDD's/SSD's. So mid 2009 is when i bought my first Macbook Pro 15"! I was so happy with it that i decided to go with the 27" Apple led Cinema display and later on connected a second one (Thunderbolt display.)
I know Mac computers cost a lot of money. And yes, a pc can (in some cases) turn laps around a Mac computer (depending on the configuration and situation.) I do music production, video editing and graphic (web) design. I have a 16-core Mac Pro with 96GB RAM, 8TB internal SSD and the W5700XT GPU with 16GB. I wish the GPU was a little bit better but at the time, it was already €15000 (about the same in $) so for me, that was the limit i wanted to go about. Certainly because i knew Apple silicon was on the horizon. I'm not afraid for the future of my Mac Pro though. I know it will last me a long time. Sure, it might lack some features in the future for Mac's like the M1. But i don't really care as long as i can keep on producing music. It is powerful enough for my needs. Just, (like i said) the GPU could be a little bit better.
Anyway, great video!
If you want an equivalent honestly could go HP Z600. They are like $150-$250 USD. I bought 2 of them and if you get the second release of the motherboard you can put 96gb of Memory in these things! It's my daily driver with a GTX 1060 atm.
I was getting 2007 Mac to run, I grabbed an usb start disk and I grabbed Windows 10. I did not know it tell half way to set the disk!
They're selling two of these for 240€ a piece at our local recycling market/center thingie.
I feel like there could be some BIOS magic work done here with the 5770. That way its not heating up the case.
Had a 5,1 Mac Pro and I installed an RX580 and it ran games like a champ.
I know this is old but hear me out.
You have to upgrade the EFI by upgrading the base OS to High Sierra.
Then you install OCLP which adds a seperate bootloader that can work with non-Apple GPUs. OCLP allows you to update to newer macOS versions and makes it easy to dual boot.
I daily a 5,1 that runs macOS 12 and Windows 10. It has two Xeon X5680s and an AMD RX 580. I may upgrade my GPU in the future though.
Honestly i would of loved to see it upgraded with dual X5690 and max amount of ram
You should try to Open Core it. This is need to run Mac OS greator than High Serria, but it gets around alot of Graphic card limitations.
The Mac Pro 5,1 is probably the best computer Apple ever built, at least since the SE/30 waaay back in the day (those things were so upgradeable).
My secondary gaming system is a Mac Pro 5,1, and I've been experimenting - currently running a ViewSonic 17" CRT and an Asus Matrix HD 5870 2GB. I tinkered with Macs before PCs, and had only worked in that ecosystem for years - my first real computer was a mid-1990s PPC tower (prior it was Commodore, bit of a gap).
I have used this computer as a daily driver with an RX 580 both in Mac OS and Linux - the latter can really add some finesse if you aren't willing to deal with OpenCore installations of unsupported operating systems. But, the old slur is true - Macs don't game well. When Apple ditched modularity in their systems, it was the end of my love affair.
With my retrogaming setup, it's surprising - though I don't run the most AAA titles - more cRPGs and the like. Currently I'm hanging at 8.1 because it was an easier install with the Mac Boot Camp - which I only used for the driver support. It doubles the frame rate of Mac OS, which itself performed better than Elementary or Pop OS.
Linux would not run silent on this machine - I've tried a bunch of distros, a number of GitHub projects... The card is finicky with cooling at least - it provides a boot screen, drive selector options - and, no, it's not flashed.
These still sell for a lot for a reason. This is the greatest computer that Apple ever built in my opinion.
I'm not alone.
yeap, i came over for Commodore 64 after fallout of the company. somedays i miss the commodore/ Amiga generation
getting janky setups to work is so satisfying
I've owned a 2009 4,1 -> 5,1 for about 5 months now and as far as gaming goes, I've managed to enjoy AAA titles running them off Steam on Garuda Linux. Frankly, performance and user experience have been fantastic. I will admit there are situations where you have to get crafty to run the title but outside of that, ill be hard pressed k to W10. Great machine. Running X5890 64GB of Ram GTX1070
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How did you get Windows 10 to run on the 5,1?
I saw the title and right away knew you scooped up a bargain. These are very popular via to them being the last Mac Pro tower that is relatively upgradable outside the current model which has a huge entry price. They can run a reasonably recent version of MacOS straight away and with a compatible graphics card, can run almost up to the current release. You can swap the CPU's around with various models so you can prioritise clock speed over cores (3.4ghz I believe is the highest with quad core CPU's), they support up to 128gb RAM, you can add USB 3 via expansion cards too. The GPU's are a mix. The last version of nVidia GPU's supported by Apple I think were the 9 series. 10 series were supported by nVidia with drivers they supplied, but weren't in MacOS by default. As others have said, the 1070 would likely boot, but you won't get a loading screen; you'll only get an image once you reach the desktop. AMD cards were better supported. So its common for people upgrading these to go for a Vega card or 5700 for example. I think Snazzy Labs and Luke Miani have done videos on upgrading these models in the past. But fully decked out they are still capable PC's.