Should you buy an Amazon Warehouse deal Laptop?
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2020
- I know, another Amazon video, but I thought it would be interesting to see if there is some huge catch when buying Amazon warehouse deals. Should you buy a laptop from there?
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One very important point I missed in the video is that Amazon explicitly states these products have no manufacturers warrenties. You can only return it based on Amazon's return policy. That does add an extra level of risk. So please bear that in mind if you are thinking about it. Sorry for missing that, and thanks for watching! 😁
Amazons "policy" does not override law its a common scam retailers have to get out of returns. I know its a grey area on the rights with manufacturer but if they are basically saying these are new they can't then say theres no warranty.
I bought this exact same laptop but with a ryzen 5 3500u and 12gb of ram for 500cad . Open box from best buy and it was in great condition . Also the nvme in my is 512gb
Working @amazon. i can't disclose any details, but warehouse deals are usually unused product which had damaged packaging from storing , or were sent back from buyers with only the box opened. Amazon does not resell PCs, which have been set up by users, because there is no way to tell if they have been tampered with. Also the return policy varies from country to country and your mileage may vary.
I apoligize for having written so much, I'll put a TLDR at the bottom.
I'm currently watching this using the laptop in the video. I also bought it from an Amazon warehouse deal and paid 367.34$CAD in November 2019.
Since the purpose of you video was to evaluate the quality of Amazon warehouse deals, I'll say that I received mine in the original packaging and in a condition that is indistinguishable from brand new. I've had nothing but good expericences with warehouse deals in Canada. The items usually come in the original retail packaging and are always in like-new condition. If I want to buy something and it is available as a warehouse deal, I will ALWAYS buy the warehouse deal, even if the difference is only a few dollars.
I have some family that usually spends the winter in Florida and have ordered some warehouse deals from there. Their experience could not be further from the one I have had. They told me that they have ordered twice from warehouse deals in the US and have, both times, received a product so dammaged that it might as well be landfill.
Regarding the computer, I've been using mine pretty much every day for university, so the battery has been charged and drained once or twice a day since I've owned it. The battery now lasts just over 3 hours, which is enough to attend one full course on battery, if barely. If I forsee using it for more than 3 hours, I'll bring the charger which, thankfully, is very compact.
Last week, I took mine appart last week to clean it and put in some new thermal paste. I noticed all the same things you did (spare ram slot , usused 2.5in drive bay (I wish they extended the battery in there or provided the drive adaptor).
I looked back at the Amazon listing for it and noticed that is has "AMD Radeon RX Vega 3 discrete graphics". The Vega 3 is an integrated GPU, so that phrasing would be misleading to someone less knowledgeable. There is one interesting thing I noticed when I took it appart. The heatpipe has plates that make contact in two different places. The first point of contact is the CPU-iGPU combo, located furthest from the fan. The second spot looks like a soldering ball grid array on the motherboard. It makes contact on this second point using a thermal pad (approx 1mm thick). I'm not sure if it means that there is something mounted on the other side of the motherboard or that it's just a mounting point for a dedicated GPU in a higher-end model. I think it's hilarious that the heatsink is this relatively big heatpipe running approximately 6in/15cm along the motherboard, but that it leads to a single fin next to the fan.
I'm considering getting a cheap 4gb DIMM to put in it. I saw that there are drive adaptors available for 15-20$ and I'm considering that upgrade as well, but I'm not sure if it would provide enough power for a hard drive. Right now, my solution to the storage problem it to just leave a small flash drive plugged into it at all times. It's not very elegant, but it works.
TLDR : I bought this laptop in late 2019 for 26% off MSRP. It arrived like new in original packaging. In my experience the warehouse deals on Amazon Canada are good, but Amazon US will send you landfill (n=2). The listing incorrectly states that is has Vega 3 discrete graphics (it's an iGPU). Laptop has 2 upgrade options, RAM and storage (requires adaptor). After 1.5 years of daily use, laptop battery lasts 3 hours. The charger is very compact.
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0:30 "A box filled with war crimes and sadness"...I didn't know you could buy loot boxes in Raid: Shadow Legends
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"A box filled with war crimes and sadness"
That describes ~90% of things you can buy on amazon in the first place...
Yes imagine moving into a new great place buying a sofa that you and your mate love to find it’s only cushions!! Oh the dispair
I was the one who made the like count 69
You could do a video on upgrading the ssd and memory to improve performance
seconded
The full retail box has a connector kit for the 2.5 area. Adding more storage would involve removing the m2 drive because of the lack of this kit.
I'll wage aside from more memory it's probably cpu bound & changing the ssd wouldn't make a jot of difference.
I'd be interested in seeing what a complete fresh Windows install would do just in case there's any Asus crapware on there.
@@norfolkngood8960 the a412d I got has a Sata based m2 drive. Beats me if the slot supports nvme
Third
Your similes, metaphors, and tongue in cheek descriptions make your videos just that bit more excellent. You have a way with words that makes your work that bit more fantastic. You offer things others can't.
"A box filled with war crimes and sadness" that 1366x768 screen is exactly that
I had the same laptop i put another 8gb stick of ram in and i was able to get gta to work at 1080p. I was kind of surprised.
That's vwey promising! I'm excited to see what it can do.
Yeap, APUs really love more Ram
Dual channel memory does wonders to ryzen APUs
@onii-chan's manko Thanks all topped up again....lol
I like how this channel doesn't really follow the boring trend of reviewing / comparing current high end graphics cards and processors which very few are willing to buy; Focusing instead on more realistic and useful goals like showing how to save some money when buying a laptop.
So yeah, keep the videos coming!
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Haha!!
In search of margin
yup, mine automatically reverted to default factory level at each start up, it never found Incredible :\\
@@sobreaver yours is probably faulty, if you haven’t send it to warranty and see what they see
Seriously dude! I love your videos! They are so entertaining and informative in most cases
Definitely worth the ram upgrade for a video
At first glance I thought this was just another amazon pallet video. But it was much better than that. Another great video Dawid!
Wow! Thanks Dawid for this video! Great content as usual!
Your analogies brighten my day, Dawid
I've got 3 of the 8" amazon fire HD tablets from warehouse deals and all of them were rock solid with nothing wrong that I could find. I've bought a couple motherboards from warehouse deals as well and the worst thing I had happen was a missing AMD backplate, with no io shield. That motherboard was like 44 dollars for a 90 dollar MSRP motherboard though and it was stated in the listing that it had missing parts. However I through it in a build and sold it, and the buyer is still happy with it.
Having purchased 2 1440p monitors from Amazon Warehouse recently I can say I'm genuinely impressed with the deals available and will be looking out for them in future. The only thing wrong with them was the box had been opened, both had all the orignal protective labels still attached. I saved well over £100 on each one so a good deal if ask me!
Thats why they can't sell them at full price even if it's just the box that's been opened they have to sell used-like new
Try to replace the thermalpaste when you gonna try to get the max out of it.
Oh yeah! I may even end up starting an AIO to it. 😅
I so love this Channel! I need to update my sarcasm skills.
love ur work man...surprised u dont haev a million
I bought several warehouse deals over the last few years, a monitor, tools, even fotography film with slightly damaged packaging for almost 30% off. I was never disappointed.
I just bought 1 165hz monitor and I got 3 lol
Dawid, thanks again for an very entertaining video. FYI, I purchase quite a few items from the Amazon Warehouse and it appears that the vast majority of their products have never been used. My experience is that the Like New are just returns like an Open Box item which has never been used. Some, like graphics cards are far less dodgy. I recently picked up an ASUS ROG Strix RX 5600 XT OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card for only $255 vs the new price of $340 at Newegg. I will gladly take my chances on things like graphics cards and RAM, but am somewhat leery of items like HDDs and SSDs. That being said, one can always run diagnostics on them to determine if they have been abused.
I got weird dirt cheap RX 580 from Amazon warehouse. It had a weird underclocked bios. So my guess it had been used for mining. I reflashed the right bios and it works great now.
Oh cool! Thanks for the feedback. Luckily you had the ability to reflash it. It would have sucjed if somebody bought it not knowing how to deal with it.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Yes It worked when I first got it, but I ran a few benchmarks on it and it was under performing for that card (rx 580 nitro+ 4gb). So I reflashed it and it worked great. I thought about putting a bad review on it but it was like 50% cheaper than any other rx580 I'd seen so I didn't bother. Btw I found out about reflashing amd GPUs from your channel,so thanks.
ahh the joys of gaming on a laptop. Such a prime experience 😊 My first gaming experience was playing Skyrim on my laptop.
oh waiting for the eternal loading screen when u got out of town lol
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*"All you need is a tiny gap to get a finger in and then you can get it going."*
NOICE.
Just used this feature for my first laptop for college thanks Dawid!
I really like it when you're the guinea pig to buy these questionable "deals" Dawid.
Thank you! I also enjoy doing these kinds of videos.
Do you have any idea on upgrading a MacBook 2011
On what I should do
Guy hacks in csgo
Dawid: you cant stand a chance in csgo competative here
Haha!! That mixed with the fact that I suck, means I don't stand a chance in any system. 😂
Doesn't look like he hacked, maybe he just has really good aim, or a not so obvious aim bot.
@@magenta3712 If he was hacking he would have died 10x quicker, he didn't even have that great of aim lol
As a former warehouse packing employee (in Vancouver too I may add) was that the warehouse deals that came down the conveyor belt were in 1 of 2 types of condition. 1 was a obviously opened box and usually a bit rough looking but it looked just fine as a used product. The second was a box that was absolutely wreaked and is barely being held together with duct tape.
sorry for the late reply. does that mean the laptops are in brand new condition but the box isn’t resealable condition so it’s a great deal or would you say a good number of the laptops were in used condition & looked beat around slightly. as someone who’s new to expensive computers i’ve always feared buying a used one as all my friends seem to treat theirs roughly even though they’re thousands where I treat my $800 laptop like a baby & has lasted me 5 years & even outlasted it’s own charger
From what I've seen, I wouldn't say in "brand new condition" since they often have some sort of minor damage to them. Most often that I myself saw was scratches or a small dent. Honestly I would still consider it a good deal as it's easy enough to cover up minor scratches. If you're looking for a laptop in pristine condition, you're better off going to best buy or Amazon.
@@fuyerwolf3117 that’s good to know thanks a lot, i’ll definitely check a couple out when they’re on sale again
4:19 that cooling system lol, wireless heatpipes from the fan to the heatsink 😂
Bro I have similar Asus laptop I has the most shitty cooling ever seen. The fan just blows air over a small heat mounted on top of ryzen 5-3500u, which the size of the dye! As far as I can it doesn't even have heat sink at least this one has!
Performance is worst.
I know Vivobook is not meant for heavy use but that does raise question why even include such a CPU in the first place
When trying to get the most gaiming performance out of that laptop be sure to use Ryzen Controller to adjust tdp and temp limit, you get quite a bit more performance like that.
I love your videos, you really like to test random stuff, huh? ♡
My whole system (minus the 9900k) was ordered through amazon warehouse. Great luck with everything! Gigabyte aorus z390 master, asus strix 2080 ti, phanteks evolv x case. Pretty much everything was in the original box, only the boxes were slightly damaged. The deal of deals was the 2080 ti for 950$
I'm down to see what improvements you can get out of this laptop, for gaming. "A box full of war crimes & sadness" is a great marketing line for a company named "Woot", btw. Great video, Dawid.
I got my first SSD used on Amazon in like 2014. 250gig something something. Still going strong in my brothers system now
I get lots of good deals from Amazon Warehouse, just a couple lemons lately with Philips HUE lights with dead batteries... Some interesting buyings for me are music-related books. People return them if they have an slight cover damage (perhaps they were for a gift?) and then you can get almost-new books with an interesting discount
I bought an HP Envy 13 x2 three years ago from Amazon Warehouse in the US, as my wife wanted a specific model, and we brought it back to Canada. The screen flickered once in a while upon receiving it so I opened it up and reseated all the cables and reapplied thermal paste. It helped a little so I replaced the LCD cable (no effect), then the motherboard (no effect), then the screen (yay!), and it's worked fine ever since. I love fixing computers & electronics in general but it's a lot better if I know there's a problem when I buy it. The potential to save $400 was very enticing but I ended up paying 85% of the new cost but ended up with zero warranty for a 1yr old product AND had to buy another laptop in the meantime because the flickering ended up getting so bad. The silver lining is with the pandemic as I had a spare laptop for home learning.
I went for a warehouse deal when I bout my define mini c. It came in the original box and had all the little bits with it, manuals et al. The only way you'd know it wasn't know was the little scratches on on side panel and the generous amount of dust inside, but defo worth the £30 saving.
this is probably the only channel i enjoy re-watching episodes of.
You still haven't checked out that cooler i recommended you, like a year ago :D
Nice to see, how much you've grown
I cannot wait for the follow up video
I've bought 2 motherboards from them like this and both were just as you experienced being basically new. I'd recommend the service.
"Amezen" lol I love ur channel and ur accent definitely improves ur channel
Haha!! Thank you! A bunch of people seem to think it's fake. 😅
LOL!!! Bro I just said the samething, so I'm glad I'm not the only one!!!
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Why would they think it's fake?
You sound like every other Canadian to me.
@@ultrademigod I'm am not born and raised Canadian, I just live there. 😂
@@ultrademigod In Canada we all sound different, It depends on the province. Not to mention immigrants also add to that diversity as well.
2:36
You have just exactly described why I chose an older, refurbished Intel laptop over one of these. 4GB isn't enough _without_ the graphics card borrowing it, and even if it _did_ have its own VRAM, I'd rather have at least 8 GB of RAM. I now have 8 GB of memory in my Lenovo Thinkpad X240, which I got for about $40 cheaper on eBay. I don't mind not having a discrete GPU, since I have a desktop capable of playing all the games that I already have.
G'day Dawid,
When you do these Videos you remind me of a Commando Going in to see what the Enemy is up to, then letting us know if it is safe to proceed or if we are entering a Hostile Area 😁
I recently bought some stuff from amazon warehouse. Motherboard, two gpus, case fans. They said the mobo was "good" and had a scratch at the bottom, but when i looked it was just a small edge on one of the corners and the board worked fine. The others were "like new" and certainly looked and performed the part. One of he three fans was a little dusty but that was it. Saved just over $100 in all.
You start a series on this
(Sees the warranty screw cover) You got screwed 🤣😂
Good vid Dawid!
lol love your absurd analogies cracks me up
9:20 that's because taxes differ depending on location. Even cities within counties within states can have vastly different taxes. For example where I live the city adds an additional 4 percent ON TOP of the state tax for restaurant dining.
I have actually gotten very good luck with Newegg open box and refurbished deals. My very first one was an open box of a LG 34 um 88cp but I picked up back in 2016. Retail for $1,000, got it for $560. It was in immaculate condition, I think somebody just opened up the box looked inside, said it was too big and sealed up and sent it back. I'm still using it to this day.
Last January I got an Asus strix 5700 xt, open box, for $330. Only thing that was wrong with it, is the PCI Express bracket look like somebody was trying to force it into their case and it bent it. I haven't vertically mounted to bypass the mounting pressure issue, and it feels like a golden sample because I could get some really good overclocks, and some really nice undervolts out of it.
I love the warehouse deals here from Amazon Germany. Germany has a no-exceptions 30 day return policy. Generally, products they are just brand-new but open box items.
There is no VAT or flat sales tax in the US, so it can't be figured into the price until it is determined where the item is shipping to. Each State has it's own sales tax rate, and some cities, like New York also have a sales tax of their own.
A warehouse deal I got which worked out really well was a RTX 2060 Super (at the time, it was the cheapest RTX 2060 Super i could find online from UK retail). Albeit, it actually ended up coming from Germany to the UK (location wasn't listed). But it works perfectly. The only downside was it was just the box. No external packaging - so everyone could see what it was - and the box was pretty wrecked with scuffs, stickers and holes.
Cost me £300 - the price of a new RTX 2060 (Non Super).
I like how the fan is not connected to the CPU / APU and cooling is based on airflow. I'd assume a fine finarray would help much more than that single heatpipe.
Warehouse deals may also mean the original box is not included or is severely damaged, but the actual product is ok. Can also mean a customer returned it because they just didn't like it. Maybe the original documentation got lost, a number of reasons why it's a warehouse deal and not necessarily reflecting the condition of the actual product.
anyone else excited when Dawid uploads so you knowing you getting good cheesy content of him mostly making humour.
I purchased a similar laptop on sale a little while back, something that you kind of can call ''introduction sale'' that one of the electronics and household appliance store here has for first two weeks of them starting to stock various products, a Lenovo ideapad s145 with a R3 3200u, 128GB nvme ssd, 4GB ram, and I upgraded it by putting in a 8Gb ram stick and a 2.5'' 500GB sata ssd, and it works practically perfectly for general media consumption and office work. [Edit to add this] It's definitively worth buying budget laptop if you're using it for office work, paying bills etc, and it's worth adding additional ram stick to make it run it's ram on dual channel, especially if you're a student or someone that want a windows pc on the go, without having to worry too much about loosing anything expensive. The laptop I got was brand new at around 450 CAD / Canadian $, With the ram upgrade I did fork out another 75 CAD or so, didn't include the 500GB ssd, since it's a old ssd that I had put into a external enclosure.
I've had more good than bad with Amazon Warehouse deals. I had one bad experience where I brought a medicine cabinet with a mirrored door on the front where the said door had one of the hinges completely broken. On the other hand I've brought stuff like computer wires and even some electronics like a computer monitor and they've been fine. Luck of the draw I guess :)
Nice video Dawid. I bet a lot of these returns are people not understanding that the system is just starved for ram.
I have purchased a fair amount from the warehouse deals section. I've never received anything broken or anything with missing parts. It's largely items in like new condition with packaging too damaged for normal retail sale, sometimes repacked in nondescript boxes likely because the original packaging was damaged beyond use. Twice I've had items just not show up at all, while annoying isn't bad as this is Amazon and they just refund quick.
I've bought a couple of cases from the warehouse and both were new and unused but half price.
We don't seem to have as big a selection here in the U.K.
I got like 20% rebate on a motherboard using the Amazon Warehouse deal. That's quite the risk there, but it was like new and ended up being a great deal.
I very much would like to see what you going to do with it. Especially after looking that weird cooling configuration that has fan and heatpipe but the heatpipe didn't reach the fan
2 last items I've had from Amazon warehouse was a Xbox elite 2 controller, that was in box, and had all the items for it. No damage to anything, listing said scuffs but it maybe had one of the lightest scuffs in one spot on the bottom. 2nd was a Sony A6000 mirrorless DSLR, also full box all items for it. Looked new to me even it is said used like new. Both I saved some money on near new and the Sony I would say it was darn near new. Controller was nice cause at the time no one had a new one for sale, and I still got one and saved some bucks.
I have this and its pretty great for older games and crossout
I got a gtx 960 back in 2015 on Amazon warehouse. Still works, fine today. I use it in my media center computer now, but still runs well.
for this to be accurate, you would have to buy several products as some will come opened but untouched, others will have been slightly used. and for the 3 items i bought off amazon warehouse which one was a gtx 1660super sc ultra, i was able to register it on evga website for full manufacture website.
Bought my gpu from it a couple months ago, it was in brand new condition and works great. Saved $100
You usually can set amount of video memory in bios, it looks like 512 by default, but probably can be up to 2 GB
Thank you for spending this money so we dont have to! I realize these videos cant be super profitable (if at all) so I appreciate you homie.
I love how you put that regret face
I got a cheap laptop this way, after going way over budget on the desktop side of my upgrades a few months ago. This was basically my only way to get decent specs with decent odds that it would be in usable condition.
It arrived basically exactly as Amazon claimed it would, full working order but limited accessories, just had the power brick as far as that goes. Specs were as promised, and I get the performance I'd expect of those specs. Cosmetics were near perfect, I had to hunt to find a couple scratches- it was hard enough to find them that had they claimed it was cosmetically perfect, I would have forgiven them and not complained about the oversight.
I've had a lot of good luck with Amazon Warehouse deals. I got an Acer Predator Helios 300 a few years back. For the spec it was going new for $1099 and I paid $875. I also got a Acer WMR headset for like $200. Amazon also has their "Renewed" deals as well, which is a lot like their Warehouse deals but they put a little more work into them. I got a VERY good deal on a pair of Sony WHCH700N headphones. Price new on them is in the ballpark of $200. I paid $70. All of these devices came practically new as if they were tried by snobs and returned because they didn't meet their haughty expectations. In any case, I've gotten a lot of good use out of them. I recommend these deals to people all the time.
3:24 that's what she said
I've bought warehouse deals for other products and they have always been in good shape but not in retail packing.
The RivaTuner overlay don't work because of the new AntiCheat that is used in the Trusted Mode of cs. It is intended
4:02 "That is the inside of a laptop"
10/10 accurate review.
I bought a redragon k585 keyboard from a warehouse deal, I do not believe it was a return though, I think it was damaged in their warehouse. It came in its original plastic cradle, but the box was missing. The corner of the plastic look as if it was crushed and pushed back out. And I also got a bunch of rubber pads and screws that didn't belong to the keyboard, a little search and I found they came from some really expensive iPhone stand by searching the review card which also was not for my keyboard.
You have to be pretty careful with Amazon Warehouse deals. My "Like New" electric kettle was obviously used (coffee/teal drips all over the outside) and was missing the base so it didn't work at all. Similarly, half of my "Like New" Command Strips were missing. Lol. I wouldn't be surprised if people remove the RAM so buyer beware, but you can also get some decent deals if there's no "consumable" aspect to the product.
It would be great if tax was included in the price, but different areas in the US have different sales tax rates so the price changes depending on where it's shipped.
Warehouse deals are utterly hit or miss. I've gotten stuff in like new condition, but I've also gotten a TV with a huge line/artifact. Luckily I tested the tv before I signed off on the delivery.
Wait you made the delivery driver/mail person wait to test it?
@@GreatMossWater Yup. For a "refurbished" TV, absolutely. Saved them having to send someone back to pick it up.
I bought a mad catz mouse from the amazon warehouse in uk a few months ago. The mouse was new, the packaging not. Saved over 50% of the price new, couldnt be happier.
Theres a lot of warehouse stuff that actually never left the amazon warehouse. pretty much anything that the outer box is damaged ends up in warehouse deals
That little APU needs some good ol' dual-channel RAM to show what it's capable of. Can't wait to see those upgrades! Greetings from Argentina :D
I would love to see this thing be pushed to its limits.
ps, I have a similar laptop (Acer Aspire A515) with the same APU. After a lot of tinkering, I was able to have the CPU stay at above 2.8GHz and GPU 1.05GHz
(edit: lmfao I put GB instead of GHz)
I've had good luck, purchased over time 2 laptops and 2 monitors, all of which were fine, saved a bit of money. One of the monitors had cosmetic slightly visible weird smudges on the bezel and one laptop had a scratch on the outside. Otherwise all worked fine. I still think it's a dice roll.
Oh cool! Thanks for the feedback. That is a decent result though. But yeah, it is definitely still a roll of the dice. 👍
Upgraded my Vivonbook 14 (3200U) with extra RAM and a NVMe SSD. Actually manages to keep 30FPS 720p in FFXXIV, not bad (especially compared to my last laptop, which was chonkier and struggled to manage *15* ). But then COVID hit and laptop got bookshelved.
Nice, ive the r5 2500 and 12gb ram version of this, and i like it.
bought a amazon warehouse corsair 850w gold full modular for 120 euros instead of 160 i think just because there were a smal impact on the box ^^ been using it since the end of november with a 2080ti and it's doing a really good job, without it, i would have been short for the gpu !
A couple of years ago at a place called Bargain Hunt when I was in Cincinnati for work I got an Asus ROG Laptop with a Skylake I7 and a GTX 960 that they got from Amazon Returns. The gimmick at this place was the longer they had something the more it was Discounted. (every 2 weeks) This Laptop was on the Bottom of the pile in their Electronics and I eventually got it for $200 (it was a $1700 Retail Laptop)
please make a video upgrading the ram and adding a SSD in it... planning to buy similar model
I also have an asus vivobook 14 with me right now, and... Gaming on it.. Is really terrible
0 heat pipes... Vega 8.... Not a good combination... Just a big chunky heatsink for the apu
You can try and throw in some heat pipes, I'd love to see the results after you perform this mod
At least everything seems serviceable from the bottom. Some older ASUS laptops were terrible in which you had to pry the top keyboard off to do anything with it.
I bought a Lenovo Ideapad 3 with a Ryzen 5 3500U and AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics and it plays gtav just fine if you get the settings under 2 gigs of vram, about 1,7 gigs vram in use plays very well
The savings would need to be more substantial for me to consider this as an option. Your sample, $500 budget for $420 is less than 20% off and I can find some pretty damn nice used Laptops (5th Gen i7 ballpark) with a $420 Cad budget. Usually if someone is willing to risk returns, used isn't a big leap.
i have this kind of laptop but with a intel cpu and i mean it runs smoothly on some games but if you like play for hours its start so slow down but its good for schoolwork and like work stuff.
At the end of the day, it really depends on how much you are saving. I got a Razer pro 17 2020 with a 1TB SSD, 4k monitor and 2080 super-Q in Jan 2021, paying 2300 bucks (As of today, it's still selling at 2799.99), which is a great deal. Here's the catch: they didn't clear the system, and I had to contact the original owner to get the system unlocked and wiped. I was also able to learn from the original owner that why the item was returned and the condition it was in, which was pretty much brand new. It was a generally great and unique experience.
Order a computer case from there warehouse deal and only got a case fan, don't know who to blame on that one, Plus it was missing all it's propriety cables. Had worst luck Newegg refurbish missing major parts in their deals.
Your analogies really do puzzle me. I still did not figure out the bipolar donkey and here you go with box filled with war crimes :D
"cl_showfps 1" in CSGO console to see framerate overlay. Or, you can use "net_graph 1" to see more stuff.