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its hard to get swedish right, it needs more time to get the pronunciation right, the pitch accent in swedish is easier than in japanese just two patterns
I feel like Pewdiepie's Japanese pronunciation might hindered by him trying to meme or entertaining his viewers in his regular content by exaggerating his Japanese pronunciation like a stereotypical foreigner would. If there were more videos of Pewdiepie just being Felix Kjellberg like in a vlog video and speaking Japanese like he would normally would, I think it would be easier to evaluate his Japanese conversational levels.
I feel like Felix have quite a distinct accent and melody, even when speaking Swedish. And he does it when speaking English as well, even in the vlogs and when he speaks normally to the camera. I believe it's just how he actually speaks a lot of the time. Some people just have a way of speaking that stands out. Besides, the Swedish accent can quite strongly shine through when we speak another language. It can be jarring listening to Swedes speaking English for example. Like, the grammar can be all good, and the person is fluent. But listening to it? It's like a big OOF. Harsh to the ears man. For a lot of us, it's going to require plenty of deliberate practice with pronunciations and speech melody to take that harsh edge off. More practice than what Norwegians and Danes typically need to do. Obviously he is going to exaggerate it, for entertainment purposes too, as you mention. In these clips it was fairly obvious that some of them were exactly that.
He said that he's not that goofy outside camera tho, marzia even said he's too serious, according to the guy himself at least. If he does study adequate japanese, surely he does it seriously
He most likely suck, he just got rich and settled in Japan because he can. That's it. Being so wealthy he don't need nor feel the need to learn the language of the country hosting him. Basically he's just one more reason for japanese to think their language is hard to learn by foreigners.
Swedish actually uses the same kind of pitch accent. I’m surprised pewdiepie didn’t use that knowledge to his advantage. Being Swedish and studying Japanese at high school, It has helped me understand the structure of sentences for sure ^^ Edit: I’d appreciate if all the scientists below stopped repeating the same stuff. I didn’t mean “exactly the same”. They’re two different languages, I know that.
I'm an American who's trying to learn Japanese and Norwegian. I'm not sure how much I can compare Norwegian to Swedish, but I am aware that both have their respective pitch accents. So it's interesting to see how pitch accents are low-key ending me, and how a Swedish speaker such as yourself is experiencing it.
@@rossdelarosa792 idk how Norwegian pitch accent works, but they definitely have one. Swedish is very much like Japanese. One word changes meaning completely with just one change of a pitch. For example: andEN = the ghost ANden = the duck
Studying pitch accent is not common in beginner courses. My university used Genki and there is no mention of it in any of the lessons. It's more of a thing you stumble upon yourself, which I think is a crime. Proper pronunciation deserves to be emphasized as much as everything else.
I wouldn't call it the same kind. Swedish is still mostly a stress accent language I would say. The pitch accent doesn't have to appear in a word, there are thousands of words that only have the stress accent instead of the pitch one (for example: "anden" pronounced with the stress accent and with the pitch accent are two different words). Also the contour of the pitch accent of Swedish is "jumpy" and always the same in one's speech register (although varies between dialects) - the pitch in the first syllable of the word falls down and then flies back up at the second syllable. Japanese on the other hand doesn't have stress at all, only pitch, which can only be high or low and there are four patterns in total. That said, I definitely agree that having that as a feature of one's mother tongue can help immensely with other languages using pitch accents even though my own only has a stress one (but I've been learning Swedish for a long time:) )
Just to note, Pewdiepie says straight up he doesn't know much Japanese. It's more that he can understand some basics from others talking. If you watch his latest video from Japan, he talks about how little he knows, lol.
He has said in a few vids that he's learning tho and as someone who has bee for a while with probably the same amount as time put to it as him, he's doing nice
I was watching this video and i realize, man, Yuta is just so sympathetic and likable, im so glad i get to watch your content! its entertaining, informative and just makes me feel good when i watch, wholesome in a way. がんばろう !
I find myself watching Yuta's videos just for the plug now. Every time I start the video I'm like "how's he gonna manage it this time" I love the transitions.
If you anticipate that you will often want to give up at learning while you are feeling motivated about it then you will be able to get through the hard periods far easier
I’m looking forward to seeing Felix’s Japanese get better now he has moved to Japan. Gives me the motivation to improve my own. I’ve hit a wall with my own learning
PewDiePie speaks that textbook Japanese alright anyway now he's living in Japan I guess he will speak more fluently and speak like a native Japanese person one day.
If he studies it, yes for sure. If not, I can asure you that he'll keep struggling it even in 10 years. It happens very often, that people which migrated there and didn't put effort to the language STRONGLY advices to not make that mistake
He just moved to Japan, you can verify his Japanese speaking skills in person if you can meet with him, Im sure he's just around there somewhere, he did make a vlog of what he's doing and where he currently is Im sure its not that hard
I remember doing the Japanese part of my JET Programme application a month ago (and I am at an introductory level) and hearing what's your name and where do you work at regular speed and asked in a different way than how I learned it, I was tripping. It took me 3 times hearing the questions and focusing on one or 2 words to get it. I have been listening to beginner podcasts a lot for the last two weeks and my listening has improved but the difference between textbook Japanese and natural is glaring
@@zamooti4505 CZcams teppei sensei( for beginners specifically). He has intermediate and others and is just the best host. He's also an italki teacher but he's not taking beginners right now so sadly I'm lucked out. They're on CZcams and Spotify and his website.
I am studying more intensively only until recent days. I am a more curious guy so instead of focusing on raw vocab or sth, I ended up doing various different japanese tests. What I noticed from different audio samples is the phenomenon you describe. Even when hearing phrases or words I am used to, at faster speeds, I can understand most of times. But if the sentence is phrased differently or has unknow vocab in between, it gets way harder to keep up.
Pewdiepie has 100% studied Japanese, at least a little. I just finished a very beginner Japanese course recently and I'm shooting for passing N5 sometime this year and the phrases Pewds was saying and the way he was saying them was definitely not just your typical weeb fare.
I definitely think he studied a bit, and also traveled a lot of times, but he's still not really a speaker, at best he would get by in a short conversation with someone who has a bit of patience
It's mainly because Swedish uses pitch accents too, so it's a slight advantage. (For example: tomten (the yard) and tomten (santa claus), or gripen (the griffin) or gripen (arrested).
Holy Frick. PewDiePie is the longest running goofball on CZcams by now. The fact that he can actually speak impromptu Japanese is actually surprising. I'm.. proud of him?
I think the vast majority of Japanese learners like myself use textbook Japanese/keigo. Without ever linking sentences together. It is incredibly difficult to think about quickly because the sentences are backwards to how they are arranged in latin-based languages. Pewdiepie is clearly not repeating something he heard from anime, he is probably reading the genki books lol.
the real problem is that they start learning japanese for books without real context, once you start to read blogs, conversation, even listen pitch accent in context without realizing you start to understand japanese, even my teacher who lived in Osaka for three years told us that some words are not in use anymore and there is no reason to teach them, i realized the same with grammar from all the grammar from N3 to N2 you barely use 50 per cent of all the items, some are for companies only and the rest are obsolete
The problem there is learning to translate, not actually learning the language as a language. I only know a little Latin, but I have no problem with the flexible word order. Even in English it's not always a problem for things to be in a weird order like the way Yoda speaks.
Yep, definitely. It's almost unfortunate how most textbooks and courses start you on Keigo because then you have to deconstruct the polite forms to get the dictionary forms, which is the root that every conjugation is based on anyway. It would be so much more efficient if they all just taunt the dictionary forms of things, and then the conjugation rules alongside them. But I'm a beginner learner and definitely still struggle a ton with sentences beyond more than 4 or so particles chunks. I always find myself needing to hear all of the chunks, pause, and then rearrange them mentally into a form my brain can understand.
@@Snow-Willow If I didnt have a Japanese teacher to help form the conjugations, it would be such a huge hill to climb. They should really combine it with an online resource with some of the common verbs conjugated. There has to be a complete guide somewhere on the internet
Bro how I wish yuta and pewdiepie will have a collab soon. Maybe a outdoor vlog or the interview type of thing or anything. Yuta's humor and pewdiepie might be a great hit. Since pewdiepie will be living in japan I'm sure one day a collab will happen just like how he hangsout with trashtaste dudes. I'd for real can wait for years for that to happen lol
I'm imagining the textbook way of saying, "What's your name?" in English would be like, "What is the correct nomenclature that you prefer to be addressed by?"
Det hjälper extremt mycket att vara familjär med konceptet, vilket om man har svenska som modersmål faktiskt är. Vi hör skillnaderna och förstår dem, samt hur de används i både svenska och japanska 1:1, mer eller mindre, men jag kan inte tala för alla japanskspråkiga svenskar. Felix låter som en robot eller som Yuta poängterade, en skolbok när han pratar, och hans ordaccent är extremt amerikaniserad. Han gör sig själv inte direkt några tjänster att försöka lära sig japanska från ett engelskt perspektiv, men men.
I'm pretty sure he has been learning Japanese for a few years now, but hasn't strongly focused on studying it. I hope he registers to a good class now that he lives in Japan and puts a bit more time into it.
I'm not sure if it's the same for all pitch-accented languages (as a speaker of one that has pitch accent and phonemic lenght), they are usually significant for native speakers, and for understanding puns and nuances, but we perfectly understand when foreigners omit it. I think it's more of a problem for them. It doesn't help that most non-standard varieties have their own accents and lenghts different from standard.
With my limited understanding, the syntax is a bit more comparable to "Yoda speak", in regards to the sentence structure often used by the StarWars character. And I suppose the intonation thing is why puns and wordplay are often featured in comedy anime? (Although those of us that enjoy the shows without really understanding the language tend to see it as funny in a more non-sequitur way. Although in some rare instances the same jokes do translate to other languages.)
I look forward to pewdiepie learning more japanese now that he moved to japan :D he seems rly interested in it so im sure he will become a good speaker
I'm from Brazil, living in USA now for a couple of years, I speak 3 languages and japanese is going to be my next, I love the japanese culture. Your channel is amazing. よろしくお願いします
Something that I have noticed mostly English speakers don't really manage to resemble the exact sound of in Japanese is what in Romanji we write as "W", which sounds more like the pronunciation of "Wa" in Hawaii, which doesn't sound correct, unless you play in Kabuki Theater. In my language (Greek) we have 2 letters (β-γ) that the "W" of Japanese sounds as if it is somewhere between the two of them, so it's easier to resemble its sound. A year ago, while I was training a friend of the time which was making anime song covers, without being Japanese speaker, at first he was approaching the accent from the English point of view but when I explained him and made him understand he should approach it through Greek sounds, it was way more easy and the accent was way more natural. In general, I think Greek and Japanese have some similarities as they are two languages with more clear neutral accent, some common letter pronunciations and tonal patterns.
It's interesting because Pewdiepie isn't a native English speaker either. His native language, Swedish, also shares some similarities with Japanese that he seems to bypass while speaking. I assume he's also learning Japanese through English and thus applying certain English mannerisms to his Japanese speaking.
I can say the same thing for German. All the vowels are pretty much the same. Some consonants, like s, z, j and r, aswell as pitch accent are different however.
@@user-wf1wd6fl2i I know he is Swedish and that's my point exactly when I am referring to that old friend of mine. I fully agree with you, because of Romanji and often anime being the first contact of people with Japanese language, English is the mediator between a person of any ethnicity and Japanese, therefore, people often approach Japanese that way.
@@Kestrel16C Yes indeed and fun fact, sometimes while I am trying to explain the sound of some words, I use German as an example, like when I try to describe the Japanese H or Greek Χ, I say it's like the German "ch" or Japanese "Ya" or Greek "Γεια" as the German "Ja".
If i'll ever learn japanese, with friends, i can see myself using the uncommon and more dramatic words and phrases for fun, as i do that either way with my friends, quoting stuff. But it's important to know the distinciton, so one can know how to use them properly, even more so with the dramatic ones i'd argue.
I met a few Swedes. Their English is amazing! Most of them, you cannot tell that English is a second language. Whatever their teaching process is, they should replicate it in other countries and with other languages.
Its typically because they get tons of exposure to English throughout their whole life. Due to the fact that a lot of Europe already speaks English, and in a lot of European countries, taking English in school is required. In other words, just a lot of immersion since childhood and a focus on the language in school. Which generally isn't very reproducible unless the target language is being constantly spoken and taught since childhood.
yeah it's literally just exposure to english, obviously education also helps but no matter what you're not gonna become indistinguishable from a native from school alone. people in the nordic countries watch a lot of english tv, movies, use english social media etc.
its because of the phonetics, Swedish have a huge catalog of phonetics they could replicate most languages in terms of vowels, consonats is their weak point but still 20 or so vowels and 40 or so phonetics sounds in total their pronunciation is the hardest to learn
thats definitely part of it, but other countries in Europe, with similar english proficiency, don't have mother languages with such flexibility. And English, in terms of phonetics isn't even that complicated (with the exception of th and v sounds) so strong phonetics wouldn't even be that important (again with the exception of th and v sounds).
We don't translate much non-Swedish into Swedish, we instead use subtitels. So we have to learn english to understand films and games. And games don't even have subtitels in Swedish.
ok, so I have a question regarding the pitch pattern of いいえ which gets shown in the first minute of the video. He says that the pitch pattern is "low high high", however it sounds as though the pattern in terms of actual musical pitches goes from low to high, and the drops just a little bit. My music theory knowledge kicked in, and it sounds like a jump up of a minor sixth and then a drop of a half step, and I checked with a piano and the notes are closest to an Ab, E, Eb. I understand that is a long tangent to get to my question, but basically what makes a Japanese pitch pattern high or low? Is it relative to your starting pitch, and as long as it is noticeably higher than that it is considered a high tone, or is it based on the pitch of the last tone regardless of how small a drop or jump in pitch? Sorry for the long question, I really appreciate the time you put into your videos to explain how people actually talk instead of teaching the same way every other resource teaches.
after you learn through textbook you can learn through media which will basically teach you the "normal japanese". Living in japan would help a little but probably not as much as u think
Oh in spanish we do the kind of the same japanese speakers do with "anata", we don't say you (tú) in every sentence because it sounds aggressive, since the verb is already conjugated the "you" is implied and omited
I think (though I'm not 100% sure) that Japanese doesn't have verb conjugation so then who is referred to just needs to be gleaned from the context if pronouns or names aren't used.
@@seneca983 Japanese does have conjugations, but differs from other European languages, which conjugate through involved people and number of people. On the other hand, Japanese is more important the level of politeness and only has two tenses: present and past. To show an example, 飲む(nomu) is the dictionary form of "to drink" in which depending on the context could mean: I (will) drink, you (will) drink and so on with all the pronouns(there's no distinction between present & future). You could change it to its polite form 飲みます and means the same thing but more polite. I think there are 14 basic verb forms in Japanese (not quite sure, though). Even so Japanese conjugation is much simpler than French or Spanish. There are many challenges when it comes to learning Japanese such as kanji and knowing where to use the correct words in every situation. When you know more, then you realize you know nothing. Either way, I still love learning Japanese.
would be cool for you to meet pewdiepie since he moved to japan recently. You're my favorite "japanese youtuber" and he's also one of my favorite youtubers.
I guess I'll speak some textbook Japanese and when I was in Japan, people were surprised and impressed to hear some Japanese and in return they try their best English. It was a wonderful experience, you see people opening up a bit for a conversation and it made me feel welcome.
@@francesjavierobando9760 Which is a superb language also because, usually, it is pronounced mostly as it is written and, unlike the Japanese, it does not require learning three different sets of alphabets/hieroglyphs.
@@StrangerHappened pronunciation differs from language to language, you can say it because your language is similar to italian, spanish and portuguese share the same phonetics as italian some differ
Negative comment authors haven't watched a full video and they are writing comment because the title of this video. Yuta, you're polite about correction and respectful about others' Japanese As a learner of Arabic language, once I've experienced a rude correction from the Egyptian guy and it can't be compared to the method, you correct the words So, this video is really nice 👍
Oh wow! I am so sorry, I am not Egyptian I am Bahraini but I apologize from his behalf because Arabs aren’t like that:) I am so sorry, I had Egyptian teachers in elementary and also this year in middle school and my elementary Egyptian teachers were very rough and would get me in trouble for no reason, only my English Egyptian teacher was nice, my middle school Egyptian teachers are also so good to me so not all Egyptians are the same, btw how is your Arabic going? It’s a very hard language so it’s totally fine if you mess up even us natives do😅
How do songs work in English? In English words can change meaning if the stress is different (e.g. incite vs. insight) and pitch is actually a significant part of the stress.
4:57 ok ok, I've been studying Japanese for already 3 months, but I don't know why the よ particle is supposed to be here without a "you know" at the end of a sentence. Can someone explain to me pls? Same happens with the ね particle. If I don't know this, I feel like I'm not going to learn Japanese naturally :(
よ is like a spoken exclamation mark and usually used to inform someone of something they didn't know. ね is like how we say "right?" but usually you know they will agree with you something that's obvious.
Anyone have a recommended Japanese dictionary that notates the pitch accent? Prefer an English-Japanese dictionary, but a Chinese-Japanese or Japanese only dictionary would be ok too.
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@@Kai-kr1dn wtf are u talking about
Definitely interested in learning normal Japanese, but would I still need to learn textbook Japanese in order to pass certification tests?
@@LeadSkillets i mean you would need to understand what the hell you're saying. You will probably know textbook Japanede if u take this
can you try busuu app for Japanese
Imagine Yuta speaking Swedish and pewdiepie reacts to him
Would lmao
The collab we need
Yuta-chan would be like "Hej, Hej, Monika! Hej, Monika ..."
its hard to get swedish right, it needs more time to get the pronunciation right, the pitch accent in swedish is easier than in japanese just two patterns
@@user-kf5mg1xl9w Color me surprised a while back when I realized Swedish has pitch accent.
PewDiePie: says 1 word in Japanese
Yuta: It's free real estate
I feel like Pewdiepie's Japanese pronunciation might hindered by him trying to meme or entertaining his viewers in his regular content by exaggerating his Japanese pronunciation like a stereotypical foreigner would.
If there were more videos of Pewdiepie just being Felix Kjellberg like in a vlog video and speaking Japanese like he would normally would, I think it would be easier to evaluate his Japanese conversational levels.
That's a given.
I feel like Felix have quite a distinct accent and melody, even when speaking Swedish. And he does it when speaking English as well, even in the vlogs and when he speaks normally to the camera. I believe it's just how he actually speaks a lot of the time. Some people just have a way of speaking that stands out. Besides, the Swedish accent can quite strongly shine through when we speak another language. It can be jarring listening to Swedes speaking English for example. Like, the grammar can be all good, and the person is fluent. But listening to it? It's like a big OOF. Harsh to the ears man.
For a lot of us, it's going to require plenty of deliberate practice with pronunciations and speech melody to take that harsh edge off. More practice than what Norwegians and Danes typically need to do.
Obviously he is going to exaggerate it, for entertainment purposes too, as you mention. In these clips it was fairly obvious that some of them were exactly that.
He said that he's not that goofy outside camera tho, marzia even said he's too serious, according to the guy himself at least. If he does study adequate japanese, surely he does it seriously
SO TRUE!💘💘💘
He most likely suck, he just got rich and settled in Japan because he can. That's it. Being so wealthy he don't need nor feel the need to learn the language of the country hosting him.
Basically he's just one more reason for japanese to think their language is hard to learn by foreigners.
Swedish actually uses the same kind of pitch accent. I’m surprised pewdiepie didn’t use that knowledge to his advantage. Being Swedish and studying Japanese at high school, It has helped me understand the structure of sentences for sure ^^
Edit: I’d appreciate if all the scientists below stopped repeating the same stuff. I didn’t mean “exactly the same”. They’re two different languages, I know that.
I'm an American who's trying to learn Japanese and Norwegian.
I'm not sure how much I can compare Norwegian to Swedish, but I am aware that both have their respective pitch accents.
So it's interesting to see how pitch accents are low-key ending me, and how a Swedish speaker such as yourself is experiencing it.
@@rossdelarosa792 idk how Norwegian pitch accent works, but they definitely have one. Swedish is very much like Japanese. One word changes meaning completely with just one change of a pitch. For example:
andEN = the ghost
ANden = the duck
Studying pitch accent is not common in beginner courses. My university used Genki and there is no mention of it in any of the lessons. It's more of a thing you stumble upon yourself, which I think is a crime. Proper pronunciation deserves to be emphasized as much as everything else.
I wouldn't call it the same kind. Swedish is still mostly a stress accent language I would say. The pitch accent doesn't have to appear in a word, there are thousands of words that only have the stress accent instead of the pitch one (for example: "anden" pronounced with the stress accent and with the pitch accent are two different words). Also the contour of the pitch accent of Swedish is "jumpy" and always the same in one's speech register (although varies between dialects) - the pitch in the first syllable of the word falls down and then flies back up at the second syllable. Japanese on the other hand doesn't have stress at all, only pitch, which can only be high or low and there are four patterns in total.
That said, I definitely agree that having that as a feature of one's mother tongue can help immensely with other languages using pitch accents even though my own only has a stress one (but I've been learning Swedish for a long time:) )
it also uses similar vowel sounds from what i remember
Just to note, Pewdiepie says straight up he doesn't know much Japanese. It's more that he can understand some basics from others talking. If you watch his latest video from Japan, he talks about how little he knows, lol.
Being able to communicate a point still counts as speaking, even if you have the vocabulary of a child.
He has said in a few vids that he's learning tho and as someone who has bee for a while with probably the same amount as time put to it as him, he's doing nice
I think in some of these videos he's just memeing around
@@Klespyrian Sure, but if you told him his Japanese was terrible, he'd fully agree with you, lol.
he also says that his English isn't really good so that doesn't really mean much
I was watching this video and i realize, man, Yuta is just so sympathetic and likable, im so glad i get to watch your content! its entertaining, informative and just makes me feel good when i watch, wholesome in a way. がんばろう !
I find myself watching Yuta's videos just for the plug now. Every time I start the video I'm like "how's he gonna manage it this time" I love the transitions.
love to see this video, I'm a struggling learner in Japanese, this video piques my interest to not give up learning, thank you!
If you anticipate that you will often want to give up at learning while you are feeling motivated about it then you will be able to get through the hard periods far easier
I’m looking forward to seeing Felix’s Japanese get better now he has moved to Japan. Gives me the motivation to improve my own. I’ve hit a wall with my own learning
Fun fact: His native language, Swedish, also happens to be a pitch-accent language
PewDiePie speaks that textbook Japanese alright anyway now he's living in Japan I guess he will speak more fluently and speak like a native Japanese person one day.
If he studies it, yes for sure. If not, I can asure you that he'll keep struggling it even in 10 years. It happens very often, that people which migrated there and didn't put effort to the language STRONGLY advices to not make that mistake
He just moved to Japan, you can verify his Japanese speaking skills in person if you can meet with him, Im sure he's just around there somewhere, he did make a vlog of what he's doing and where he currently is Im sure its not that hard
I think Yuta is in Kansai and Pews is in Tokyo. It’s not that easy to meet up. Probably would cost a couple hundred dollars for a round trip.
Now Anime Man and Pewds must be pretty close to each other. Definite colabs coming soon.
Japan is deceptively large and long. Going the whole length of the home islands is equivalent to a cross-Europe road trip.
You live in America so go see the president
@@marlon_0 “You live in New York. Why don’t you just go visit LA?”
I remember doing the Japanese part of my JET Programme application a month ago (and I am at an introductory level) and hearing what's your name and where do you work at regular speed and asked in a different way than how I learned it, I was tripping. It took me 3 times hearing the questions and focusing on one or 2 words to get it. I have been listening to beginner podcasts a lot for the last two weeks and my listening has improved but the difference between textbook Japanese and natural is glaring
Mind sharing those beginner podcasts?
i have the same problem once i started to read real conversations, is like day and night
@@zamooti4505 CZcams teppei sensei( for beginners specifically). He has intermediate and others and is just the best host. He's also an italki teacher but he's not taking beginners right now so sadly I'm lucked out. They're on CZcams and Spotify and his website.
I am studying more intensively only until recent days. I am a more curious guy so instead of focusing on raw vocab or sth, I ended up doing various different japanese tests. What I noticed from different audio samples is the phenomenon you describe. Even when hearing phrases or words I am used to, at faster speeds, I can understand most of times. But if the sentence is phrased differently or has unknow vocab in between, it gets way harder to keep up.
Goodluck with your application
A very respectful and informative video!
I finished the first 3 video's you sent to my emails, I hope more is coming because I wanna learn more
Yuta-san, thank you for that SxF video about Anya and her Japanese. Arigatou gozaimasu!
Nice video Yuta 👍
Pewdiepie has 100% studied Japanese, at least a little. I just finished a very beginner Japanese course recently and I'm shooting for passing N5 sometime this year and the phrases Pewds was saying and the way he was saying them was definitely not just your typical weeb fare.
I definitely think he studied a bit, and also traveled a lot of times, but he's still not really a speaker, at best he would get by in a short conversation with someone who has a bit of patience
@@Cream12345Ice He's in japan now lol. I think his japanese got a lot better.
I am no expert, but I think swedes in general can easily adapt to both accent and prononciations.
/Best regards from Göteborg, Sweden
It's mainly because Swedish uses pitch accents too, so it's a slight advantage. (For example: tomten (the yard) and tomten (santa claus), or gripen (the griffin) or gripen (arrested).
Holy Frick. PewDiePie is the longest running goofball on CZcams by now. The fact that he can actually speak impromptu Japanese is actually surprising. I'm.. proud of him?
proud of a racist?
@@holliswilliams8426 Are people calling him racist for speaking Japanese the way he does? That's uh... for real? Please tell me that's not real.
Teach him, he is in Japan now. Collab with the king bro.
I think the vast majority of Japanese learners like myself use textbook Japanese/keigo. Without ever linking sentences together. It is incredibly difficult to think about quickly because the sentences are backwards to how they are arranged in latin-based languages. Pewdiepie is clearly not repeating something he heard from anime, he is probably reading the genki books lol.
the real problem is that they start learning japanese for books without real context, once you start to read blogs, conversation, even listen pitch accent in context without realizing you start to understand japanese, even my teacher who lived in Osaka for three years told us that some words are not in use anymore and there is no reason to teach them, i realized the same with grammar from all the grammar from N3 to N2 you barely use 50 per cent of all the items, some are for companies only and the rest are obsolete
The problem there is learning to translate, not actually learning the language as a language. I only know a little Latin, but I have no problem with the flexible word order. Even in English it's not always a problem for things to be in a weird order like the way Yoda speaks.
Yep, definitely. It's almost unfortunate how most textbooks and courses start you on Keigo because then you have to deconstruct the polite forms to get the dictionary forms, which is the root that every conjugation is based on anyway. It would be so much more efficient if they all just taunt the dictionary forms of things, and then the conjugation rules alongside them.
But I'm a beginner learner and definitely still struggle a ton with sentences beyond more than 4 or so particles chunks. I always find myself needing to hear all of the chunks, pause, and then rearrange them mentally into a form my brain can understand.
@@Snow-Willow If I didnt have a Japanese teacher to help form the conjugations, it would be such a huge hill to climb. They should really combine it with an online resource with some of the common verbs conjugated. There has to be a complete guide somewhere on the internet
pewdiepieさん、日本語お上手ですね。
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oh man this is like the trial by fire that everyone learning japanese has to hear once
Davixxaさん、日本語上手
Bro how I wish yuta and pewdiepie will have a collab soon. Maybe a outdoor vlog or the interview type of thing or anything. Yuta's humor and pewdiepie might be a great hit. Since pewdiepie will be living in japan I'm sure one day a collab will happen just like how he hangsout with trashtaste dudes. I'd for real can wait for years for that to happen lol
so interesting thank you sooo much!
So humble the yuta
4:08 I have to note that there is also a Japanese anime called "Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei".
I'm imagining the textbook way of saying, "What's your name?" in English would be like, "What is the correct nomenclature that you prefer to be addressed by?"
That's something Zucc would say, followed by "my fellow human" to make himself appear more human.
Great video!
4:00 Looks like he watched Bottle Fairies or something like that then. The main character is literally named Sensei-san throughout the whole show.
I love listening you you, I may not learn, but it's a good time. Thank you.
Your English skill is great!
Fun fact: Swedish actually also features a pitch accent. Though I am unsure if this makes it a whole lot easier to learn the Japanese one.
Det hjälper extremt mycket att vara familjär med konceptet, vilket om man har svenska som modersmål faktiskt är.
Vi hör skillnaderna och förstår dem, samt hur de används i både svenska och japanska 1:1, mer eller mindre, men jag kan inte tala för alla japanskspråkiga svenskar.
Felix låter som en robot eller som Yuta poängterade, en skolbok när han pratar, och hans ordaccent är extremt amerikaniserad. Han gör sig själv inte direkt några tjänster att försöka lära sig japanska från ett engelskt perspektiv, men men.
I'm pretty sure he has been learning Japanese for a few years now, but hasn't strongly focused on studying it. I hope he registers to a good class now that he lives in Japan and puts a bit more time into it.
years spent studying a language is a pretty meaningless statistic unless you are focussed on it every day
I'm not sure if it's the same for all pitch-accented languages (as a speaker of one that has pitch accent and phonemic lenght), they are usually significant for native speakers, and for understanding puns and nuances, but we perfectly understand when foreigners omit it. I think it's more of a problem for them. It doesn't help that most non-standard varieties have their own accents and lenghts different from standard.
With my limited understanding, the syntax is a bit more comparable to "Yoda speak", in regards to the sentence structure often used by the StarWars character. And I suppose the intonation thing is why puns and wordplay are often featured in comedy anime? (Although those of us that enjoy the shows without really understanding the language tend to see it as funny in a more non-sequitur way. Although in some rare instances the same jokes do translate to other languages.)
"Nihonga wa, hidoi desu" LMAO!!! I totally know what he wanted to say but that's a hilarious mistake!
Just signed up for lessons. Thanks
I look forward to pewdiepie learning more japanese now that he moved to japan :D he seems rly interested in it so im sure he will become a good speaker
Yuuta with beard looks cool
Remember when Joji/ filthy Frank taught us to be racist in Japanese?? Those were times man hahahahha
Man i miss him already
I still remember "ketsu wo taberu", "yonhyaku nijyuu, moyase"
What up my kokojin?
I miss filthy frank so much.
I'm from Brazil, living in USA now for a couple of years, I speak 3 languages and japanese is going to be my next, I love the japanese culture. Your channel is amazing. よろしくお願いします
He’s living in Japan now, possible collab in the future, he’s could use the lessons from you!
Yes yes yes! Make it happen!!
This was a fun video
Something that I have noticed mostly English speakers don't really manage to resemble the exact sound of in Japanese is what in Romanji we write as "W", which sounds more like the pronunciation of "Wa" in Hawaii, which doesn't sound correct, unless you play in Kabuki Theater. In my language (Greek) we have 2 letters (β-γ) that the "W" of Japanese sounds as if it is somewhere between the two of them, so it's easier to resemble its sound.
A year ago, while I was training a friend of the time which was making anime song covers, without being Japanese speaker, at first he was approaching the accent from the English point of view but when I explained him and made him understand he should approach it through Greek sounds, it was way more easy and the accent was way more natural. In general, I think Greek and Japanese have some similarities as they are two languages with more clear neutral accent, some common letter pronunciations and tonal patterns.
It's interesting because Pewdiepie isn't a native English speaker either. His native language, Swedish, also shares some similarities with Japanese that he seems to bypass while speaking. I assume he's also learning Japanese through English and thus applying certain English mannerisms to his Japanese speaking.
I can say the same thing for German. All the vowels are pretty much the same. Some consonants, like s, z, j and r, aswell as pitch accent are different however.
@@user-wf1wd6fl2i I know he is Swedish and that's my point exactly when I am referring to that old friend of mine. I fully agree with you, because of Romanji and often anime being the first contact of people with Japanese language, English is the mediator between a person of any ethnicity and Japanese, therefore, people often approach Japanese that way.
@@Kestrel16C Yes indeed and fun fact, sometimes while I am trying to explain the sound of some words, I use German as an example, like when I try to describe the Japanese H or Greek Χ, I say it's like the German "ch" or Japanese "Ya" or Greek "Γεια" as the German "Ja".
Lol μαθαίνεις ιαπωνικά και εσύ;
ぼく以外の日本語を勉強してるギリシャ人を見たことないんだ
Anyways, δεν περίμενα να βρω ελληνα εδω lol
Good video
That bit on sensei San reminds of the pokemon episode of south park. The kids say "garrison-san" instead of "garrison-sensei."
If i'll ever learn japanese, with friends, i can see myself using the uncommon and more dramatic words and phrases for fun, as i do that either way with my friends, quoting stuff. But it's important to know the distinciton, so one can know how to use them properly, even more so with the dramatic ones i'd argue.
I met a few Swedes. Their English is amazing! Most of them, you cannot tell that English is a second language. Whatever their teaching process is, they should replicate it in other countries and with other languages.
Its typically because they get tons of exposure to English throughout their whole life. Due to the fact that a lot of Europe already speaks English, and in a lot of European countries, taking English in school is required. In other words, just a lot of immersion since childhood and a focus on the language in school. Which generally isn't very reproducible unless the target language is being constantly spoken and taught since childhood.
yeah it's literally just exposure to english, obviously education also helps but no matter what you're not gonna become indistinguishable from a native from school alone. people in the nordic countries watch a lot of english tv, movies, use english social media etc.
its because of the phonetics, Swedish have a huge catalog of phonetics they could replicate most languages in terms of vowels, consonats is their weak point but still 20 or so vowels and 40 or so phonetics sounds in total their pronunciation is the hardest to learn
thats definitely part of it, but other countries in Europe, with similar english proficiency, don't have mother languages with such flexibility. And English, in terms of phonetics isn't even that complicated (with the exception of th and v sounds) so strong phonetics wouldn't even be that important (again with the exception of th and v sounds).
We don't translate much non-Swedish into Swedish, we instead use subtitels.
So we have to learn english to understand films and games.
And games don't even have subtitels in Swedish.
ok, so I have a question regarding the pitch pattern of いいえ which gets shown in the first minute of the video. He says that the pitch pattern is "low high high", however it sounds as though the pattern in terms of actual musical pitches goes from low to high, and the drops just a little bit. My music theory knowledge kicked in, and it sounds like a jump up of a minor sixth and then a drop of a half step, and I checked with a piano and the notes are closest to an Ab, E, Eb. I understand that is a long tangent to get to my question, but basically what makes a Japanese pitch pattern high or low? Is it relative to your starting pitch, and as long as it is noticeably higher than that it is considered a high tone, or is it based on the pitch of the last tone regardless of how small a drop or jump in pitch? Sorry for the long question, I really appreciate the time you put into your videos to explain how people actually talk instead of teaching the same way every other resource teaches.
So Sensei San is like saying Mr. Sir or Ms. Ma'am lol
Saying Sensei San is exactly like saying Doctor Mister in english
Yutaaa, you know the only answer is he is legendary at Japanese!
Hey!
Do you think if I learn textbook Japanese now and live in Japan afterwards, I learn the normal Japanese?
after you learn through textbook you can learn through media which will basically teach you the "normal japanese". Living in japan would help a little but probably not as much as u think
when he speak perfectly, those are mostly newer videos. and now he live in japan.
I hope PewDiePie starts taking lessons from you and you turn it into a series!
Good for him.😃
What's your estimate for when Felix stops getting nihongo jouzu'd by the locals?
Would have been hilarious if he made an entire video just for pewds saying いいえ
I gotta work on getting more comfortable with longer sentences.
1:50 That takes some getting used to, because in other languages in can be impolite to NOT say "you".
guess im learning a little as i go lol but i kinda thought "namae wa" was a little informal because its used in anime.
Now Pewdiepie has to make a video reacting to this video
Yuta just a question, but have you played Ghost of Tsushima before?
Oh in spanish we do the kind of the same japanese speakers do with "anata", we don't say you (tú) in every sentence because it sounds aggressive, since the verb is already conjugated the "you" is implied and omited
I think (though I'm not 100% sure) that Japanese doesn't have verb conjugation so then who is referred to just needs to be gleaned from the context if pronouns or names aren't used.
@@seneca983 Japanese does have conjugations, but differs from other European languages, which conjugate through involved people and number of people. On the other hand, Japanese is more important the level of politeness and only has two tenses: present and past. To show an example, 飲む(nomu) is the dictionary form of "to drink" in which depending on the context could mean: I (will) drink, you (will) drink and so on with all the pronouns(there's no distinction between present & future). You could change it to its polite form 飲みます and means the same thing but more polite. I think there are 14 basic verb forms in Japanese (not quite sure, though). Even so Japanese conjugation is much simpler than French or Spanish. There are many challenges when it comes to learning Japanese such as kanji and knowing where to use the correct words in every situation. When you know more, then you realize you know nothing. Either way, I still love learning Japanese.
@@Lukarrem Yeah, I was a bit imprecise. I meant conjugation for person and number which could carry the same information as personal pronouns.
Yuta already knows this video will get a shit-ton of views lul
would be cool for you to meet pewdiepie since he moved to japan recently. You're my favorite "japanese youtuber" and he's also one of my favorite youtubers.
Wow. I'm Japanese and I was surprised by Pewdie Pie speaking Japanese. That last part was good! He's actually starting to speak!
so when is the collab happening
Yuta teaching pewdiepie would be nice to watch
Yuta's smooth transition into his mailing list is like LTT saying "Segway to our sponsor!
I hope he sees this because hes in Japan, might be helpful for him.
I guess I'll speak some textbook Japanese and when I was in Japan, people were surprised and impressed to hear some Japanese and in return they try their best English. It was a wonderful experience, you see people opening up a bit for a conversation and it made me feel welcome.
PewDiePie getting nihongo jouzu'd for 6 minutes
✨ It's begun ✨
If you two could make a vide together would be a lot of fun.
90% of my entertainment in watching his videos is just looking at his hair
But chopsticks are the bridge for food to travel from plate to mouth.
wow congrats pewds
Question: How many languages can Yuta Speak?
I know you can speak Italian (Besides Japanese and English)
I think he also does spanish
He can't speak italian. He said It (non so parlare italiano)
@@francesjavierobando9760 Which is a superb language also because, usually, it is pronounced mostly as it is written and, unlike the Japanese, it does not require learning three different sets of alphabets/hieroglyphs.
@@StrangerHappened pronunciation differs from language to language, you can say it because your language is similar to italian, spanish and portuguese share the same phonetics as italian some differ
@@StrangerHappened funny thing is Japanese, when romanized is pronounced exactly how it's written
we need a collab with pewdiepie
I haven't used Sayonara in years, only Otsukaresama, Jya-ane, Matane, and bye-bye.
Negative comment authors haven't watched a full video and they are writing comment because the title of this video.
Yuta, you're polite about correction and respectful about others' Japanese
As a learner of Arabic language, once I've experienced a rude correction from the Egyptian guy and it can't be compared to the method, you correct the words
So, this video is really nice 👍
Oh wow! I am so sorry, I am not Egyptian I am Bahraini but I apologize from his behalf because Arabs aren’t like that:) I am so sorry, I had Egyptian teachers in elementary and also this year in middle school and my elementary Egyptian teachers were very rough and would get me in trouble for no reason, only my English Egyptian teacher was nice, my middle school Egyptian teachers are also so good to me so not all Egyptians are the same, btw how is your Arabic going? It’s a very hard language so it’s totally fine if you mess up even us natives do😅
@@fiyahxr3250 It's going fine, thanx! and also no problem about the correction for now
@@puffy7309 :)
This guy corrects people's grammar mistake on comments section
When’s the collab with Pewds happenin?!
If some japanese words change meaning if the pitch is different, how do songs work?
How do songs work in English? In English words can change meaning if the stress is different (e.g. incite vs. insight) and pitch is actually a significant part of the stress.
Hope Pewds learns how to speak Japanese more fluently in the future now that he's moved to Japan
I want to hear him actually trying though. All of this is in a comedic tone
4:57 ok ok, I've been studying Japanese for already 3 months, but I don't know why the よ particle is supposed to be here without a "you know" at the end of a sentence. Can someone explain to me pls? Same happens with the ね particle. If I don't know this, I feel like I'm not going to learn Japanese naturally :(
よ is like a spoken exclamation mark and usually used to inform someone of something they didn't know. ね is like how we say "right?" but usually you know they will agree with you something that's obvious.
In the first 30 seconds I learned a whole new facet of Japanese. Neat!
His pitch accent was 100% Swedish, haha
Anyone have a recommended Japanese dictionary that notates the pitch accent? Prefer an English-Japanese dictionary, but a Chinese-Japanese or Japanese only dictionary would be ok too.
JAccent is pretty good.
@@ichigogogo7 Thank you! JAccent is just what I was looking for.
Pewds be learning japanese in japan currently, hopefully he get it
I think in 1 or 2 years he will improve his japanese :)
Pewdiepie has been officially awarded the 上手 pass by Yuta
Same with Tagalog pitch pattern, but we're stricter. If you messed up the word, Filipino will surely laugh and then correct you.
He is really into japanese. I perfectly understand him. I wish I had money to move to Japan. I would do it today.
i need that plushie. RIGHT. NOW.
Make him subscribe to your lessons