The History of Mono Green Aggro (Stompy) Decks in Magic: the Gathering | Deck History #47
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The most surprising thing here is remembering that in 2016 you could just play vanilla creatures in Modern.
You would not believe how hard it was to get my playset of baloths back then, but it was worth it.
You could play with cards not in mh2 as well
Agreed
Deck history videos are by far my favorites
Glad you like them!
Stompy decks have been major beneficiaries of recent card design and has had heavy representation in Standard. I don't mind its prevalence though. It's often more useful to have powerful opponents you know than weak ones you're not aware of.
Yeah something about playing or playing against large gentlemen on curve feels like "real magic" to me
@@Yodaminnesota mmmmm large curvy gentlemen
@@johannesisaksson7842 that’s gonna be the name of my pod
You had a chance to say it "stomped" Aluren in the poll and missed it...
You win the internet today.
I loved the Mono Green Food deck. One of the very few bright spots during the Throne of Eldraine Standard years.
I still have Great Henge PTSD (but I started playing Standard again at Zendikar, after the Oko ban)
The issue with mono green food was how long the games would take. BO1 mirror matches sometimes took close to an hour, as "opponent decking from drawing too many cards with The Great Henge" was a win condition that came up all too frequently.
im so glad youve kept this series up! although i find the mtg top 10s and limited videos most entertaining, i find the deck histories videos to be the most practically useful as reference material!
Glad you like them!
Hey, as a big fan of mono green decks this video was super instructive, thanks a lot ! Here's some extra information about the Modern Stompy deck in 2016 : actually, Vines of Vastwood was the main reason why the deck was so successful, not so much its creatures. Back then, the metagame was dominated by Splinter Twin decks which seeked to win by enchanting Deceiver Exarch or Pestermite with Splinter Twin to go infinite and win on the spot.
In this configuration, Vines of Vastwood was super versatile : you could save one of your creatures with hexproof or pump it for lethal, but you could also respond to Splinter Twin by giving your opponent's creature hexproof, which would cause Splinter Twin to fizzle. Since then, almost every card which gives hexproof can only target your own creatures, which is a good testament to how good Vines of Vastwood was back in the days.
Time to sleep and watch it again in the morning!
It'll still stomp you later
@@pauljimerson8218 oh my
Every Timmy's fav
LOVE the flavor text on Rancor:
"Hatred outlives the hateful."
Man, I was there for this one. Built my stompy deck and tore up locals and regionals back in the 90s 💪🏻😎 but you forgotmthe Odyssey block, that augmented stompy decks for sure
Oo, never been this early! Great video! Stompy has allways been one of my favourite decks :)
I was there I was the elf
Surprised to see no mention of Veil of Summer, card's a monster uncommon and figured stompy would run it
probably banned too quickly, it took less then 2 months for it to get the boot
@@peterjessen97 really? I'm so out of touch with that stuff. More edh player thought it would've had more time
@@darriusskyler8493 1 mana cryptic command kinda gets banned fast
I see it in sideboards for mono green sometimes
No Pauper?
Urza’s block was so intense. Imagine playing a deck with 4 Cradles or Academies. 😂 Stoopid
They are legendary, so it's not too bad. They're just more likely to come up early in a game. And you can currently play four Cradles in Legacy.
6:20 small thing, but hidden stag doesn't become a creature if you play a land. It hides as an enchantment when you do.
I enjoyed this a LOT!
I played MTG when Stompy was first created. I loved and played a version of it most of time. I even went to a Type I tournament, where I went 3-0 in the morning winning everything, and then faced in 2 Tolarian combo (just had been developed and type I, so full blown murdering machine), then a defensive GW agro, so I went 0-3 in the afternoon, and everybody was relieved that this unknown guy with cheap cards was not winning anything xD
I stopped playing MTG almost just then, so this evolution has been an absolute thrill to watch. Thank you
One big part in the recent stompy decks is the synergy between Esika's Chariot and Wrenn and Seven. On turn 4, the Chariot would come down with the 2 cat tokens. On turn 5, play Wrenn and Seven, use its -3 ability to make a 5/5 token, then use that token to crew the Chariot. Then the Chariot attacks and makes a copy of the 5/5 token, while also freeing up the cats for either offence or defence. It was a backbreaking mid game play for any deck not running board sweepers.
That Urza era stompy deck was the bane of my childhood. I hated, hated, hated Albino Troll and Rancor.
This is a big ask, but I would love to see this updated to reflect the Nyx decks dominating Modern and Pioneer right now. Although, it’s kind of more of a combo deck then a stompy i guess. Great video!
I actually built Modern Stompy back in 2016 and found a ton of success with it all the way up to 2018 by upgrading the list when better cards got printed, I was going undefeated against every deck in the format. Wild, I know. Sadly Modern fell out of favor around 2018, and I'm sure the deck hasn't kept up with the meta, but I still have it built, and I keep an ear to the ground for cards I think would make the deck viable again.
Surprised none of the recent decks shown had Elder Gargaroth in them.
And was there a whole set of 'Hidden' enchantments that turned into a creature when your opponent played a certain thing?
I recall having a Hidden Spider that made a 3/5 with Reach if they cast a flyer.
Hey, I just want to say I really appreciate you making this series. I just recently got back into MTG after about 15 years away from it, and this has been by far the most helpful source of knowledge in figuring out how the game has evolved from then 'til now.
I built a dumb hate bear stompy deck during Time Spiral standard. When it was pretty much all blue and another color counter decks. I had Ukatabi Drake, Ground Breaker, Stonewood Invocation, that Leyline that makes my creatures uncounterable, mana dorks n haste creatures. I regularly won. 😂
Small issue at 11:14, the Wildborn Preserver pumps itself, not your other creatures.
Obligatory post that Bounty of the Hunt should have given permanent +1/+1 counters. Seriously, how does Contagion give permanent -4/-2 and BotH is only until end of turn?
Love these videos, it's so interesting to see how decks have evolved through the ages. If you haven't yet, I hope you get around to white weenie and monoblack aggro, as I think it would be interesting to be able to see how the different colors produce different aggro decks
I haven't done them yet, but will eventually.
Stompy 4 Life!
stupid green deck with wildebeasts, spikes and and land destruction is my favorite archtype of them all
Molder Slug is still one of my favorite creatures!
Even if nowadays all it munches on is Treasure tokens.
Thanks dude, im trying to use a bunch of these creatures in a commander deck to mimic them lol.
I love playing mono green aggro in Pauper. It's preety good in this format
You provide such good content and bring a lot of knowledge to the Magic community. Please keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
Nice, I'd love to see one about white weenie!
You missed Beastmaster Ascension from Zendikar block constructed.
What’s up Nizzahon! Nice penguins! Mono green 4L 🎉
Finally, the one true mtg deck
I grew up with a fascination for Rogue Elephant and the 8-land Stompy Legacy deck. Even though it wasn't good, I always wanted to build it. But before I got around to it they printed Infect and that basically replaced the deck with a strictly better version.
STOMPY!! God I love STOMPY
Any chance you could make a guide for the “Halloween” format ahead of magic 30?
My favorite decks!
surprised pauper wasnt mentioned; stompy dominated that format for a few years
Loving your videos!
Glad you like them!
Are you able to do Top 10 Pros with the database available to you and your method? Could be interesting, no?
The day after to build a mono green deck, this video is released.
This video may be very helpful
Good to hear!
Mono green players rise up 🌳
All time favorite archetype :]
my favorite archetype
Bounty of the hunt would be sick if it gave 3 permanent counters. Dang
You forgot cards like feed the clan, pithing needle, vines of vastwood and not to mention aspect of hydra
I always thought Stompy decks were ones that used Craterhoof Behemoth as a win condition
Nope!
While I have always found Green Stompy a bit unrefined as a strategy, back in the days it required some effort to be played efficiently, while today, thanks to WotC "Green is great at everything", I feel like Stompy has mostly become the default way to play and win on autopilot.
Angels next please!
Probably need to wait a bit on that one.
Still rocking mono green in MTGA standard today... Is it the best? No! WIll it get you to Mythic? Probably not! Is it fun to play? Definitely!!!
I run a lot of cards that have enchantment/artifact removal as a side effect/ability which can really mess up all the decks that rely on sagas and other enchantments... fells sooo good 😅😄
Deathtouch and fight effects also help a lot ^^
I guarantee you it will I don't know what planet you live on👽
@@NateBullock-ow6on Stadard of over 1 year ago was different and not that green friendly... just saying 😅
s t o m p y
Shame covid killed pioneer, I had a homebrew stompy deck that was doing well in the beginning
pauper stompy where
🥲
it's been an almost constant threat to any and all archetypes that the format has ever seen, resulting in some bans that exclusively hit stompy players. while the majority of other bans have essentially disqualified their respective decks to be played anymore, stompy always prevailed and at a time of neverending powercreep the same base stompy decks can be found in top 8s time and time again. well, there were some indirect buffs to the deck by reprinting uncommons at common rarity, but other than that, the powercreep has been extremely limited, resulting in pauper stompy decks being able to built in a variety of different ways:
do you play the full playet of gut shots to improve your early skarrgan pit-skulk combo or rather rapid wild mongrel/basking rootwalla combo?
maybe instead of hedging against discard you focus on beating control by going into morbid and general survivability with blister pod/young wolf/experiment one/hunger of the howl pack/river boa//bayou groff/brave the wilds?
rancor is a must have ofc, but maybe control doesnt destroy your creatures anymore but sends them to exile, so you need to instead focus on hexproof with silhana ledgewalker/vines of vastwood/blossoming defense?
if you go super wide, hoping to never see board wipes, do you add emergency magnify's, or do you go all in with some extra convoke/conspire cards with nettle sentinel being must haves anyway, like halo hopper/gleeful sabotage/gather courage/giantbaiting?
since you're already using one time effects like giantbaiting for extra-fast speed, would you mind going really oldschool with uktabi drake?
do fliers work really well and you want some extra vault skirges?
what if the enemy has so many fliers so that your silhana ledgewalkers cant get through anymore, will you go for scattershot archer or oldschool hidden spider to power through?
what about life gain, if burn adjacent decks are abound, will you risk paying phyrexian mana costs with hp or replace those cards?
will you keep them and double up on vault skirge/life goes on/weather the storm?
as you can see, for around 50 bucks you can buy into the format and most likely have all the cards and more to be able to change your deck on the fly for anything the meta could throw at you for years to come. maybe once every cycle or so you'll get a marginally improved version of a card you already have, though cards like savage swipe will always remain an exception in how much they influence your deck overall.