A look into MotoGP™ suspension: Tech Talk with Simon Crafar

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  • čas přidán 3. 10. 2019
  • The dark art of #MotoGP suspension (and we're not even going to cover damping yet!) - Simon Crafar runs us through spring rates and preload in his latest #TechTalk!
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Komentáře • 223

  • @kneewall49
    @kneewall49 Před 4 lety +186

    Fantastic Simon! Finally we have someone who can explain the complexities of tuning and the related outcomes and requirements. Magic. Your input to the MotoGP this year has been phenomenal, love it.

    • @bremCZ
      @bremCZ Před 4 lety +3

      @Trikk When and who did he race MotoGP for?

  • @Alexxx0128
    @Alexxx0128 Před 4 lety +93

    That was awesome. Please keep doing these. Simon is real knowledgeable and gives good tips

  • @trykozmaksym
    @trykozmaksym Před 4 lety +43

    This is so amazing. Haven't seen such a passionate explanation ever. How cool is that? :) Can't wait for the new TechTalk.

  • @rondridealmeria
    @rondridealmeria Před 4 lety +16

    the way Simon talks it´s amazing! well done

  • @franklinwilkerson2061
    @franklinwilkerson2061 Před 4 lety +12

    That was by far the best suspension talk I’ve ever seen. Learned more from Simon in one video than probably all the other ones I’ve watched combined. I’m a right brained caveman. More Chimp than human but I think I actually get it now. Thank you 🙏 MotoGP!

  • @panzervalkyrie9299
    @panzervalkyrie9299 Před 4 lety +9

    New Zealander , long time hero of mine. Lucky enough to meet him at Auckland Hampton downs track ( my profile pic ) . Absolute humble nice guy. Learning so much bike craft from him .

  • @gregjetnikoff7124
    @gregjetnikoff7124 Před 3 lety

    Possibly the best MotoGP tech explainer EVER. Been riding and racing for decades and still learn something new ever time he does a vid.

  • @xuanyulyu52
    @xuanyulyu52 Před 4 lety +12

    Contents of this video in a nutshell, please feel free to correct me in the replies:
    1. You can use springs with different stiffness on left and right front forks to achieve the front spring rate you want, because they are rigidly connected in parallel;
    2. You assume that changing the preload won't affect the spring rate. You change the preload to alter the range of travel your suspension stays in, mainly avoiding bottoming out (the rigid parts hitting each other and invalidating the springs) under COMPRESSION (both front and rear). Bottoming out sucks because they make your tyres the only spring you get, offering basically no damping and a terrible feeling, which you don't want.
    3. Top-out springs are used to prevent the springs from overextending and invalidating themselves the other way, under REBOUND.
    4. You can tune the preload by spinning a nut (in the front) or rotating a ring (in the rear). The rear shock preload ring now goes pneumatic so you can compress the spring first, easily turn the ring and release the spring back to the position you want.
    5. Air gaps are used to increase the effective spring rate as the load increases.
    6. You can change the rear linkage geometry to cope with different axis positions (due to changes of the sprocket/final ratio) based on how you want to correlate your wheel travel with your rear spring rate etc.

  • @jgsimons
    @jgsimons Před 3 lety

    Anyone who is a track day rider needs to watch each TechTalk twenty times. Great information and he walk viewers through it very well.

  • @trionrider
    @trionrider Před 4 lety +5

    The best explanation about suspension that I've ever seen! Good job! Keep it coming!👍

  • @boosthit811
    @boosthit811 Před 4 lety +3

    The strong sense of passion comes off through the camera!

  • @thorstenhenseleratho
    @thorstenhenseleratho Před 4 lety +4

    Greatest TechTalk on springs I have ever seen! Can‘t wait for insights on damping...

  • @nickegan3988
    @nickegan3988 Před 4 lety +1

    Simon I was at Donnington Park in 1998 and watched your 500cc win, unforgettable! Cheers for your insights here

  • @wsc50
    @wsc50 Před 4 lety +1

    Please keep doing these tech videos. It's very cool to see in great detail what we normally cannot!

  • @olivialambert4124
    @olivialambert4124 Před 3 lety

    I've been looking everywhere for a description like this. The actual effect and feel of changing suspension settings for race bikes. The closest I could get was a manufacturers document describing the extreme settings. I'm so glad I came across this video. Now to find the damping, that would be worth its weight in gold.

  • @franciscomendoza1168
    @franciscomendoza1168 Před 4 lety +2

    This is just awesome!!! Thank you so much Simon and motogp for the tech talks!!! Keep bringing them!!!!

  • @HenriDeCarvalho
    @HenriDeCarvalho Před 4 lety +9

    I learn something... you make my day Simon

  • @GiorgiLaluashvili
    @GiorgiLaluashvili Před 4 lety +31

    Thats some complicated stuff right there

  • @luhaarunk3085
    @luhaarunk3085 Před 4 lety +2

    I'm this glad this video came in my recommendations. Will watch other previous videos too.
    Thank you sir & thank you MotoGP for such awesome explanation!

  • @patryk996
    @patryk996 Před 4 lety

    These are FANTASTIC videos!! Thank you sooo much for putting these together! I LOVE this technical detail about how the different components work on these bikes! More please!! :D

  • @TheGregouze35
    @TheGregouze35 Před 4 lety +3

    Thank you Sir! My english is weak but I understood everything cause it's so well explained! Damn that's a proper use of 10 minutes!

    • @motogp
      @motogp  Před 4 lety +1

      TheGregouze35 Glad you liked it! 😎

  • @AdrianSinner97
    @AdrianSinner97 Před 4 lety

    the top out spring and the 'geometric' linkeage - dear gods, so damn hard for the outsiders to know about such things.
    Simon you rock mate, motoGP channel kicks ass by showing us these things

  • @andyallison460
    @andyallison460 Před 3 lety

    Love all these Tech Talks, no matter the subject. As an avid motorcycle rider, ex amateur racer, and current track day enthusiast I can never get enough motorcycle knowledge. Keep em coming!

  • @CtrlCmdMusic
    @CtrlCmdMusic Před 4 lety

    Having watched his youtube channel motovudu... i am not new to his tech talks.. they are certainly eye openers... and the great thing is he gives out these insider secrets which everyone else in the world of racing are closed mouth about. Thats what makes him special... a true man of knowledge

  • @robchiatto4198
    @robchiatto4198 Před 4 lety

    Great job of explaining a complicated subject. Thanks Simon!

  • @NeonFreakC
    @NeonFreakC Před 4 lety

    Awesome!!!! Please give us more of this content!

  • @mohba01
    @mohba01 Před 4 lety +17

    The physics is just the language of reality. A lot of people are speaking about it, very few understand what it really is.

  • @NotPoliticallyCorrect407

    Love the way Simon explains things, understands that not all people are tech talk jargon savvy. speaks in plan English for all to understand in real world terms that everybody can relate too. 🍻👍🏻✊🏻

  • @outwrite11
    @outwrite11 Před 4 lety +1

    All that without an edit and minimal mistakes in that heat. What a pro Simon is. Still don't understand why pre-loading doesn't simply make the spring stiffer, but I'll get it one day ;)

    • @xuanyulyu52
      @xuanyulyu52 Před 4 lety

      I guess it's based on an assumption that for a spiral spring its stiffness keeps the same all the way. They do alter the stiffness either by switching the springs or achieve variable stiffness by using the air gap.

    • @bremCZ
      @bremCZ Před 4 lety +1

      Grab a spring and compress it from slack. It will require x amount of force.
      If you squeeze that same spring a little at the beginning and then start measuring the force required to completely compress it. It would be exactly the same.

  • @HanamDo
    @HanamDo Před 4 lety

    Wow this was absolutely entertaining to listen to. Please do more of this Simon!

  • @MrGlynlewis
    @MrGlynlewis Před 3 lety

    Excellent vid Simon. That top out spring so simple but so clever! Thanks again

  • @slash9196
    @slash9196 Před 4 lety

    Wow this guys voice use to drive me crazy. but I must say ,I love listening to him because he knows his shit ,can ride like the wind and is great at explaining complicated stuff that we normally don’t get to hear .keep up the good work mate we love you

  • @horurbjarnason5448
    @horurbjarnason5448 Před 4 lety +1

    Brilliant information. Thank you!

  • @Gambo916
    @Gambo916 Před 3 lety

    These TechTalks add another dimension to my understanding and enjoyement of MotoGP. Thank You Simon.

  • @blubaru73
    @blubaru73 Před 4 lety

    More of these please. Well done Simon.

  • @brettlightfoot1802
    @brettlightfoot1802 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the explanation; this helps me to better understand what I am doing to my bike. Keep the tech talks coming! Great job Simon. 🙌🏻

  • @slipperyweasel2627
    @slipperyweasel2627 Před 4 lety

    A very passionate and detailed clip, all in one take. Well done, Mr Crafar.

  • @sweetkawi636
    @sweetkawi636 Před 3 lety

    I love the tech talk series. Keep up the good work Simon.

  • @j.d.7321
    @j.d.7321 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video! I'm so intrigued

  • @michaelrullis7501
    @michaelrullis7501 Před 4 lety +3

    Top out spring wow thats so cool. Never would have thought

  • @sparkme123
    @sparkme123 Před 4 lety

    Well done!!! Please do more videos like this. Understanding my bike and how it works makes me a better rider.

  • @TheRedMenaceR
    @TheRedMenaceR Před 4 lety +1

    great video. I used to really not enjoy Simon, especially when he first started, but he's really come into his own and I truly appreciate the insights of a professional rider

  • @ZeroBoostBuick
    @ZeroBoostBuick Před 4 lety

    This was brilliant !
    You're awesome at explaining these things... THANK YOU

  • @rodrigofonseca1160
    @rodrigofonseca1160 Před rokem

    This is simply one of the best videos on youtube.

  • @JG-zu5wc
    @JG-zu5wc Před 4 lety +1

    Great job Simon. Really simple to understand how important it is to set these correctly to ride fast.

  • @justincase8992
    @justincase8992 Před 3 lety

    Great video. Now I understand the principle of how the shocks work in a bike. It is a constant harmonious relationship between the rider and the mechanics and the engineers to achieve the best race results. More power to your videos.

  • @Corredorzxc
    @Corredorzxc Před 4 lety

    Simon! You're amazing! I would love to have these TechTalks coming out!

  • @djbgatekeeper
    @djbgatekeeper Před 4 lety

    Awesome tutorial Simon thank you 👍

  • @nealkashya
    @nealkashya Před 4 lety

    As someone who's an active track dayer,this is life saving explanation right there,very underrated! The amount of knowledge in this one video regarding how to adjust the preload and damping will make night and day difference for someone who makes use of it! Thanks a ton for this video and please make more of these that would be useful for production bikes as well!

    • @CtrlCmdMusic
      @CtrlCmdMusic Před 4 lety +1

      He has his own channel motovudu where he explains everything

    • @nealkashya
      @nealkashya Před 4 lety +1

      @@CtrlCmdMusic thanks a ton for that info! Mike on bikes,life at lean apart from this has been my other favs as well! check em out too if you're interested in track day riding!

    • @CtrlCmdMusic
      @CtrlCmdMusic Před 4 lety

      @@nealkashya sure bro 👍

  • @kratanicverses4805
    @kratanicverses4805 Před 4 lety +1

    Wonderful explanation. Still very complex and alot to take in but brilliantly demystifying.

  • @rbsuba
    @rbsuba Před 4 lety

    Amazing!!! Your explanations are all of good! Gongratulations for dedicate time! Nice.👏👏👏👏👏

  • @rubencriviDT
    @rubencriviDT Před 4 lety +1

    Very nice video with Simon! More of this for free please!

  • @zoransandric5568
    @zoransandric5568 Před 4 lety +5

    Simon, nice explanation

  • @VitorGTC
    @VitorGTC Před 4 lety +2

    Nice work mate , very interesting stuff right there

  • @klaus-juergenkessel3916

    Excellent! Very good explanation!

  • @RaunaqSahu
    @RaunaqSahu Před 4 lety +13

    This is a great initiative!

  • @albertorobinson7611
    @albertorobinson7611 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for the quick tip Simón

  • @Velodictorian
    @Velodictorian Před 4 lety +1

    That pneumatic preload is baller!

  • @shahsankgole2296
    @shahsankgole2296 Před 4 lety +3

    Great job Simon....!

  • @renstav8
    @renstav8 Před 4 lety +7

    That was great!!

  • @TheAslakVind
    @TheAslakVind Před 4 lety

    I really really really love your TechTalk Simon!

  • @vonmisesmohr
    @vonmisesmohr Před 4 lety

    Good knowledge & Very technical

  • @Nandakumarweb
    @Nandakumarweb Před 4 lety

    Super. More like these please. Thanks

  • @3d-motor805
    @3d-motor805 Před 2 měsíci

    It was an interesting and useful explanation. Thank you Simon !

  • @armandoescobedo782
    @armandoescobedo782 Před 4 lety +1

    Great explanation mate!

  • @Ronin-bt1fj
    @Ronin-bt1fj Před 3 lety

    Love his explanation!

  • @HasBeensNAddicts
    @HasBeensNAddicts Před 4 lety +1

    I needed this so bad. Thank you

  • @Kid574
    @Kid574 Před 3 lety

    The amount of tech in those suspension is incredible.

  • @oliviermader9007
    @oliviermader9007 Před 4 lety

    Thank you Simon!!!👍🏻

  • @roydamron7404
    @roydamron7404 Před 4 lety

    Awesome job simon,keep it up!

  • @slimmerik1
    @slimmerik1 Před 4 lety

    Super super awesome explanation!

  • @Crimson_Strider
    @Crimson_Strider Před 4 lety

    awesome. thank you.

  • @bilal_waheed
    @bilal_waheed Před 4 lety +1

    absolutely amazing!
    the purpose of these maniac machines being open to public!

  • @peter_king
    @peter_king Před 4 lety

    This guy knows his isht. Absolutely love the level of detail here and his the pit lane broadcasts. Bravo.

    • @bremCZ
      @bremCZ Před 4 lety

      He was an Öhlins tech after he retired as a rider, so suspension is something he's forgotten more about than most will ever know.
      It's a level of insight you rarely ever get.

  • @shanerr7252
    @shanerr7252 Před 3 lety

    Thats the best description of under steer ive ever heard "like when you push dads car too hard" 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @johnreynolds2055
    @johnreynolds2055 Před 4 lety +1

    When Simon describes what the bike is doing, it is clear he has been there himself. I couldn’t have chosen a better person for the job. Everything extra he does to help you understand all add up

  • @IvanCruz-ys6by
    @IvanCruz-ys6by Před 4 lety

    Well done Simon, enjoyed the tech talk very much. 👍🏻

  • @AMPJ08
    @AMPJ08 Před 4 lety

    GREAT! Bravo 👏🏻

  • @scotch_onrocks1876
    @scotch_onrocks1876 Před 3 lety

    This is the best video on suspension I've ever seen

  • @Sk2PPer
    @Sk2PPer Před 4 lety

    Excellent video!

  • @Justwanthavefun_100
    @Justwanthavefun_100 Před 4 lety

    Very enjoyable videos and very satisfying

  • @GooogleGoglee
    @GooogleGoglee Před 4 lety

    Wonderful content!!

  • @andrews9577
    @andrews9577 Před 4 lety

    Very good. More please.

  • @Basstl3r
    @Basstl3r Před 4 lety

    Excellent vid. Please do more of it. Small correction though, spring rates are not measure in newton metres (torque) but in newton per mm. So the force needed to compress the spring 1mm is for instance 8 or 14 N to stick to your examples.

  • @ordinarypablo
    @ordinarypablo Před 3 lety

    Just wow, thanks!

  • @rizdzwan7
    @rizdzwan7 Před 4 lety

    Great 👍 information...thanks

  • @Comic_Dude
    @Comic_Dude Před 4 lety

    Awsome knowledge

  • @GraemeRobinson
    @GraemeRobinson Před 4 lety

    fascinating stuff - genuinely new information here and I've been around and riding bikes for decades.

  • @one-of-us9939
    @one-of-us9939 Před 3 lety

    I am so proud you chose Aprilia.
    I chose an Aprilia RSV4 RF LE#14 2018.
    Keep up the great work Simon... Cheers!

  • @whitenite007
    @whitenite007 Před 4 lety

    This was incredible.

  • @joshuamervis
    @joshuamervis Před 4 lety

    Great stuff!

  • @mxtj3wboi
    @mxtj3wboi Před 4 lety +2

    Really good info! I also just enjoy listening to Simon. He could be talking about how to tie your shoe laces and I'd watch that.

    • @bikeguy3034
      @bikeguy3034 Před 4 lety +1

      ..and they have these little plastic bits at the ends to stop them fraying, how cool is that!?. Simon is awesome 😎

  • @stuartoneill3470
    @stuartoneill3470 Před 3 lety

    awesome stuff Simon

  • @remembermorrison
    @remembermorrison Před 4 lety

    Thanks Simon!

  • @matttorgersen9932
    @matttorgersen9932 Před 4 lety

    Thank you Simon

  • @guitarrman03
    @guitarrman03 Před 4 lety

    Simon getting better on animation! Great! The important is that when he talks, you can cleary see the guy knows the feeling and consequences of stuff since he was himself a rider! Great job and great passion! Question, why is there a street tire on the bike ?

  • @lloyddotimas6302
    @lloyddotimas6302 Před 4 lety +1

    He geeked out! I got enthused!

  • @markcotter4213
    @markcotter4213 Před 4 lety

    Simon is worth his weight in gold! He is the second best thing in MotoGP, with racing itself being #1

  • @astonmartin258
    @astonmartin258 Před 4 lety +75

    The people, who disliked this video, dont ride a bike at all

    • @Adeysworld
      @Adeysworld Před 4 lety +4

      Facts! This was a very informative video. How could you hate?

    • @FynnAkaFynn
      @FynnAkaFynn Před 4 lety +2

      I am currently thinking about disliking because of this TikTok dogshit.

    • @codeboy_henry
      @codeboy_henry Před 3 lety

      Only people disliking this are evil

  • @digpatil
    @digpatil Před 4 lety +3

    👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 nice information