the dreaded well points been there.first time I ever did well points we had to use raw sewer to drill the well points 1500 feet 500 between mh it was bad lol.
Pretty lucky to be able to bed the pipe in native besides your base. Nice work putting the crown to the side ive fought with guys about where to put it with them saying it needs to go to the top!!??? Like wtf haha. Im confused to why your running such wide spreaders? Nice dig though bud looked good 😁. Ive been mainlining for 18 years and am currently sittin on a komatsu pc490 23 feet deep 42" storm in black heaving sand. (In the sumner valley in washington state where the mt rainer lahar went through a thousand years ago. Hard pan at 175' lol.) 2 foot below invert quarry spall over X, fabric then 5/8's around pipe jumping jacked base, pogo'd spring line jumping jack top. Pipe layer works hard for a stick doin all that and makes it hella slow De watering the whole 9.
Thanks Kyle. Why mix perfectly good bedding with the crap. I guess I’m just anal about things. I’m now a super running 10 crews and I spend most of the time shaking my head. A good crew starts with a good operator and pipelayer. If the 2 click you’ve got something. But to answer the spreader question, I was using the box to lay some large diameter RCP as well.
I take it this is Florida hence the palm trees. I always see you guys in the excavation business wellpoint absolutely everything down there regardless of the ground elevation and have always wondered how the ground water behaves in Florida. I do excavation work on the shore in the north east mostly on barrier islands and its all sand/mud at those low elevations and we well point it sometimes other times we use stone and lots of pumps. Once you leave the barrier islands and the elevation increases the ground water will eventually be non existent in some spots. You know when I was visiting florida on the east coast I saw a city crew installing a fire hydrant they were about 4 feet deep and they had a little well point system set up with a header maybe a 6x6 but they seemed to be at least at elevation 15 they were near the beach but they were up top a big hill and the ashy clay they dug looked like what you were digging. My question to you sir is how does the ground water behave down there is it like an artesian thing where it will boil up? In the same area but right on the road along the beach I watched a contractor set a precast storm water pump station they were maybe 13-15 foot deep and had it all sheeted up and well pointed and man those boys fought that for a few days but they got it they had a pile of sand it had to be 30 tri axel loads from digging that thing and kept loosing the hole before they sheeted it.
We do a combination of all that you mentioned. Looks dry in the video but that’s because of the points. We also use 6” perforated sock stalled with a huge trencher. Notice I’m laying in rock? The bottom is saturated clay. Not stable material for sewer. We have 4 basic soil types down here. Sand, clay, hard pan, and shelf rock or cap stone. Sometimes you need dewatering, sometimes you can outrun the water and lay on stone, but we also have good dry sand where you need no bedding. Elevation doesn’t matter much here you can find water just about anywhere you dig. Coastal or inland.
You can really tell who the wanna bees are that criticize vids so quick. You can tell who has experience from the comments. Nice work man I'm on the eastern shore of MD we battle water every day as well.
Ya id like to know his explanation. Haha. Only thing i see thats weird ( critisize me all you want, i think this is a nice set of pipe) is why you pulled the box up out of ground before digging next set which all it does is engulf the bell making the pipelayer hand dig a bunch when you pull the box and have to beat it down again. Recommend leaving box where its at and pulling it. All in all quick set and nice work 😁
Well the problem I was having was the box was sticking in the clay and if I got to far away the machine wouldn’t pull it free without a dance. Compensating for the conditions I guess.
This time last year we were 35' down for sewer line. We were building a pump station but 50' is not uncommon,,now that will make your balls crawl back up inside ya
Just got done with this same situation lol putting the ladder and taking all that time ain’t getting you no where. Smarter ways to be safe in with the trench box
the ladder is something that was always a concern for me and my crew when we were working. The day you skip putting it inside the trench box is the day OSHA shows up
Im a retired pipe layer, and your comment reminds me that the last 3 years I worked I spent about 60 to 70% of the time just attempting to keep the new guys alive.....
Dry conditions presented by the well points warrants rock under the structures only as per build specs. Did hit a few spots the well points weren't drying up that we had to rock.
@LionelRichiesCrackpipe Ive dug more pipe than you can dream of. My guess is you have zero training and very little experience or were taught by someone who didn't know how to either. 13' is not deep sewer. When you hitting 20' plus then you have something to talk about. I can tell he's picking his tracks up, digging to deep into the ditch first, should be skimming the tops toward him till the bucket is full, he's not smooth, jerking stopping motions. I could out dig him two sets to his one. Especially in that sandy soil. Swinging way too far to the sides. All of that adds up to less production at the end of the day. Ive never had to pound the sides of a box that way. That tells me he has no clues and whoever is letting him do that should be fired too. Not to mention you are laying 8 inch and having to set it in with the hoe....Thats lazy. You can set that shit by hand. You can set C-900 water line by hand in 8" This is sewer pipe. That company is loosing money with these laborers and operators. They wouldn't last a day here.
Wow, That's a great video. I will always cheer for you in Korea I'm looking forward to a great video. Have a nice day.
Excavator22 this is a Kobelco 350. Here in central FL we have sand , hard pan, and clay. Some suitable some unsuitable, but most of it wet.
The gingeraleeeee bandit haha
Good to see here I work for Ripa as a pipe operator
Well that excavator will never have to be replaced. I fell asleep waiting for him to get the box pulled for that cut.
Your slow on video too bud...trust me. 🚧
Very good
Good work bro
Thank you sir.
More videos of work please Gabe!
the dreaded well points been there.first time I ever did well points we had to use raw sewer to drill the well points 1500 feet 500 between mh it was bad lol.
That’s awful. I can’t imagine pointing with raw dookie. 🤔
Pretty lucky to be able to bed the pipe in native besides your base. Nice work putting the crown to the side ive fought with guys about where to put it with them saying it needs to go to the top!!??? Like wtf haha. Im confused to why your running such wide spreaders? Nice dig though bud looked good 😁. Ive been mainlining for 18 years and am currently sittin on a komatsu pc490 23 feet deep 42" storm in black heaving sand. (In the sumner valley in washington state where the mt rainer lahar went through a thousand years ago. Hard pan at 175' lol.) 2 foot below invert quarry spall over X, fabric then 5/8's around pipe jumping jacked base, pogo'd spring line jumping jack top. Pipe layer works hard for a stick doin all that and makes it hella slow De watering the whole 9.
Thanks Kyle. Why mix perfectly good bedding with the crap. I guess I’m just anal about things. I’m now a super running 10 crews and I spend most of the time shaking my head. A good crew starts with a good operator and pipelayer. If the 2 click you’ve got something. But to answer the spreader question, I was using the box to lay some large diameter RCP as well.
Awesome
I take it this is Florida hence the palm trees. I always see you guys in the excavation business wellpoint absolutely everything down there regardless of the ground elevation and have always wondered how the ground water behaves in Florida. I do excavation work on the shore in the north east mostly on barrier islands and its all sand/mud at those low elevations and we well point it sometimes other times we use stone and lots of pumps. Once you leave the barrier islands and the elevation increases the ground water will eventually be non existent in some spots. You know when I was visiting florida on the east coast I saw a city crew installing a fire hydrant they were about 4 feet deep and they had a little well point system set up with a header maybe a 6x6 but they seemed to be at least at elevation 15 they were near the beach but they were up top a big hill and the ashy clay they dug looked like what you were digging. My question to you sir is how does the ground water behave down there is it like an artesian thing where it will boil up? In the same area but right on the road along the beach I watched a contractor set a precast storm water pump station they were maybe 13-15 foot deep and had it all sheeted up and well pointed and man those boys fought that for a few days but they got it they had a pile of sand it had to be 30 tri axel loads from digging that thing and kept loosing the hole before they sheeted it.
We do a combination of all that you mentioned. Looks dry in the video but that’s because of the points. We also use 6” perforated sock stalled with a huge trencher. Notice I’m laying in rock? The bottom is saturated clay. Not stable material for sewer. We have 4 basic soil types down here. Sand, clay, hard pan, and shelf rock or cap stone. Sometimes you need dewatering, sometimes you can outrun the water and lay on stone, but we also have good dry sand where you need no bedding. Elevation doesn’t matter much here you can find water just about anywhere you dig. Coastal or inland.
Do more mainline videos Gabe with pop evil playing! I’ve watched this video a hundered times, love this shit!
FYI tell top guys not to stand next to box have seen guys washed down one ended up in the bottom next to pipe
Gabe, Are you in a 400? I'm in north Florida and most areas up here we have sand , sand and more sand! I'm bouncing between a 329e and a 336f.
350 Kobelco
Are these systems gravity or pressure?
Also what's the loader size back filling.
Gabe dirt goes on the pile not back in the hole before you get the pipe in. I AM JUST MESSING WITH YOU!! LOL
Dumb question time: Why such a wide trench for such small diameter pipe?
It’s called hard ass clay and shovel teeth on a wide bucket. Not to mention the box doesn’t help. Notice full buckets are coming off the top?
You can really tell who the wanna bees are that criticize vids so quick. You can tell who has experience from the comments. Nice work man I'm on the eastern shore of MD we battle water every day as well.
Don't worry about the haters.
Ya id like to know his explanation. Haha. Only thing i see thats weird ( critisize me all you want, i think this is a nice set of pipe) is why you pulled the box up out of ground before digging next set which all it does is engulf the bell making the pipelayer hand dig a bunch when you pull the box and have to beat it down again. Recommend leaving box where its at and pulling it. All in all quick set and nice work 😁
I don’t. Lay pipe! 🤣
Well the problem I was having was the box was sticking in the clay and if I got to far away the machine wouldn’t pull it free without a dance. Compensating for the conditions I guess.
13ft isn’t really all that deep for sewer. We’ve done shit 25-33 ft deep
Try laying 54ft
This time last year we were 35' down for sewer line. We were building a pump station but 50' is not uncommon,,now that will make your balls crawl back up inside ya
Just got done with this same situation lol putting the ladder and taking all that time ain’t getting you no where. Smarter ways to be safe in with the trench box
the ladder is something that was always a concern for me and my crew when we were working.
The day you skip putting it inside the trench box is the day OSHA shows up
All that digging for a 8inch
how you keep it in line ?
We are running a pipe laser and my eye ball on the forward stake.
Confused why the stone box if you're bedding in existing sand and how can you bed pvc in sand in wet conditions
Jeffrey Zenz I’m bedding with rock. Well points have the sand dry enough to use to go back in and compact for first lift.
Requirement. Forman or operator can't decide what to bed the ditch with..
Good video jus the music get my nerves.
Tell the new guy to stand on other damn side of ditch
Luther Blankenship lmao
Im a retired pipe layer, and your comment reminds me that the last 3 years I worked I spent about 60 to 70% of the time just attempting to keep the new guys alive.....
Where's the rock
Dry conditions presented by the well points warrants rock under the structures only as per build specs. Did hit a few spots the well points weren't drying up that we had to rock.
Go down 28 feet, than you'll see deep
Been to 30’ to set a wet well for a 8’ diameter lift station...does that count?
Try 33 feet
Ur machine or pipe is not center of box
Doesn’t matter. What matters is the pipe is in and the laser says it’s center.
Boom is center cab isn't.
That's not deep...
This is painful to watch......If we dug like this around here we would be run off the first day.
Explain
@@kylemaras slow. slowest thing ive ever seen
What a jack ass comment. Where’s your videos? All talk…
You get any slower digging and you're going to stop moving....
@LionelRichiesCrackpipe Ive dug more pipe than you can dream of. My guess is you have zero training and very little experience or were taught by someone who didn't know how to either. 13' is not deep sewer. When you hitting 20' plus then you have something to talk about. I can tell he's picking his tracks up, digging to deep into the ditch first, should be skimming the tops toward him till the bucket is full, he's not smooth, jerking stopping motions. I could out dig him two sets to his one. Especially in that sandy soil. Swinging way too far to the sides. All of that adds up to less production at the end of the day. Ive never had to pound the sides of a box that way. That tells me he has no clues and whoever is letting him do that should be fired too. Not to mention you are laying 8 inch and having to set it in with the hoe....Thats lazy. You can set that shit by hand. You can set C-900 water line by hand in 8" This is sewer pipe. That company is loosing money with these laborers and operators. They wouldn't last a day here.
Millon cubic yard club!
8 ft isn't deep dude
It's 13 dude that's a 10' box. Pretty deep for Florida.