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- Over the past year, more than 700 EPA employees have quit their jobs or taken retirement buyouts. According to Steve Hopkins, who worked at the EPA for 15 years, that’s unprecedented.
Betsy Southerland is one of the EPA employees who left the agency last year. She laments the way Administrator Scott Pruitt and political appointees cut career EPA employees out of major policy decisions.
Environmental regulations are just part of what the EPA does to help communities, says Mustafa Santiago Ali, who quit his job at the agency in March after serving as the head of the EPA’s environmental justice program. Agency employees also build trust with marginalized communities who need help dealing with environmental contamination. “That's why we need to have a strong EPA. Because when we don't, we weaken our country,” Ali told VICE News. “We have to address these public health issues and these environmental issues, if we truly want to have our country to be all that it's supposed to be.”
To find just how the EPA has been doing in Trump and Pruitt’s first year, VICE News gathered around a campfire with four employees who left the agency in 2017, and one current union representative. The result was a frank discussion between former federal employees who worked at the agency for decades - fueled by a marshmallow roast.
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Clean drinking water and air is something that people from every political ideology need.
I’m breathing fine
thank the epa
Why weren't more people outraged by Trump's pick of Pruitt to head the EPA when he is openly contemptuous of it and wants to dismantle it? We have an insane government.
Greg Egan he isn't going to dismantle it.
Cause trump probably did 5 other things the same week that made this seem pretty harmless
People where outraged, but Republicans pushed the pick through anyway. They rushed it through. There was a cache of information that Pruitt had illegally withheld and that a judge had ordered him to release...but Republicans declined to delay the nomination vote by a few days until after that information came out. We were mad, but powerless.
Alot of you armchair pundits who know nothing about the Environmental/HazMat biz think the EPA is some giant organism. I worked HazMat for years, and the EPA isn't who shows up in 48 of the states when someone fucks up the neighborhood and your favorite fishing hole because your local bodyshop flushed their paint thinner into the sewer or creek. It's your state DEQ. Same people who do emissions checks on your cars. They have primacy. That means THEY are in charge. And they meet or exceed the EPA federal guidelines. So even if the administration neuters the EPA at the federal level, the state DEQ's still hold all the policing power, and have for a long, long time.
Many statutes are not delegated to the states.
Many fines, inspections, policy, and federal standards are just that: federal only.
Including your drinking water standards. Unless some states chose to have more stringent levels.
Yeah, that's not true. EPA does alot of the study work on major waterways, but the enforcement and inspections are DEQ. If DEQ has an inter-state issue, or a major company that is crossing state lines, then they call the Feds just like your local cops would call the FBI. But when it comes to who's visiting the reservoirs and companies that have outflow to the rivers and air quality, it's DEQ is who shows up like the boogie man and inspects your environmental program for compliance with 40 CFR. The whole reason they get primacy in most states in the first place is specifically BECAUSE they have more stringent levels
Thank you Vice..... This is what I want to see
Enter Name Here yes you want to see your preconceived opinions regurgitated back to you thru media. That’s the Demonrat way.
Tony Arcieri Thank God I'm not like you
Tony Arcieri oh look a edgy teen
No that's the Trump supporter way. Proven facts can be regurgitated over and over, they're still true. Climate change is not an opinion, it doesn't matter if you believe in it or not - it's happening whether you like it or not so better try and do what you can to stop it.
Climate change = weather
THE ENVIRONMENT IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE. Maybe we should call it resource management instead.
D0NtPh34rTh3R34p3R The way we word things has a lot of power. Change global warming to mass pollution and suddenly everyone agrees. Try it in your next discussion. Because, everyone sees pollution and cannot deny it. Nobody wants pollution.
neatchip123 and nobody can argue that pollution isn’t bad or real
D0NtPh34rTh3R34p3R we call it that and it’s still politicised, although more a long the lines of landowners rights
They equate 'resource management" with resource extraction maximization.
They equate 'resource management" with resource extraction maximization.
I love this country but amazed how stupid we all are by sitting and watching all this happen. When will we stand up and make the right choice?
Duffer Man no I'm afraid this country is filled with sheep that follow an ideal that is leading us down the wrong path. We no longer protest in a fashion that makes real change. When you can't question government life can change and spiral out of control. Just look at history. People have done this in the past and have suffered. Maybe it's our turn to learn the hard way. What steps have you made to make this country great? Do you help the poor and starving? Do you teach our children respect for all gods creatures? Or do you just sit and judge with an empty hand?
November 6th, 2018
@@DRH-yh9wm Nov 06, 2018? Please elaborate.
I protest! Trump's intrusion on the EPA and on EPA's directives, serves as a sign that the primary cause of climate change is the 'Global Economic Model' GEM,
and it's incorrect definition of profit. Technology is the indirect cause of climate change. We need a new GEM that supports a new definition of profit, and this 'profit'
definition must map well with nature's economy. In nature, we have been paid in full, in advance, and our job is to gain sustenance without going into Overshoot.
I recommend this definition: Profit = our gratefulness and loving care for our Environment, and for the sustenance that it provides to all of us.
Clearly, this definition of profit does require a new GEM.
The central part of the new Global Economic Model should be the EPA. EPA members will vote on the best 'Profit' definition that states sustenance
is our only actual 'gain' without which we can't live, and states that the environment is our only source of sustenance.
As the central hub of the new GEM, EPA members will establish, by vote, all directives related to both, the GEM and climate rescue strategies.
Here are just some rough ideas of what the EPA directives might be:
1.) Population: Initially we need a one child per family directive.
2.) In place of income, jobs would have an 'equivalency rating'. Some jobs are still more important and more difficult than others.
3.) All equivalency ratings will increase at the same time if and when the environment becomes healthier. The lowest EquivRate must still be livable.
4.) Everyone who can work will be able, and required, to get jobs. No more expenses, so no more cutting jobs to reduce expenses; thus, virtually no more homelessness.
5.) No manufacturing of useless and unnecessary products. All products will be scrutinized by various rating methods.
6.) Whenever possible products should last a lifetime and or be easily upgradable, so we don't buy the same products repeatedly.
7.) EPA will direct "Work Force Flow". Example: Shoe manufacturer will produce 100yearLife shoes for 3 years, then reduce output to about 1/10 of full capacity, and
the majority of shoe employees will be shifted to other work assignments by the EPA. Employees still keep their EquivRate in-between jobs.
I know that this is just a rough outline of what we must do, but it's a good starting point.
This is our Ark. Please help build it! Questions, suggestions and any comments for or against this idea will be very deeply appreciated. Thank you!
💖
EPA made collecting rain water illegal.
This is awesome. How do we get the rest to quit?
Don’t worry, we aren’t going anywhere :) I love my career at EPA and will continue to work hard for many, many more years to protect the environment and at-risk people from pollution. We’re all in this world together and we only have one earth. Let’s act like it.
@@digit975😊
5:45 *SHOVING MALLOWS RIGHT INTO THE FIRE* Disgusting.
This makes me very happy. 700 in a year? Only seven years to go.
Can the public sue an agency for gross negligence if the result is an increase and/or prolonged health issues due to mismanagement in the EPA? I know companies can be sued; I don't know if government agencies can. Particularly if the agency is the one who is supposed to compile the evidence.
YES. This is the only reason that the EPA got involved in Flint after complete negligence of 2 years of not doing shit
EPA has a surplus now for this admin to pocket. If only the GOP senators had the backbone of these real patriots.
Great video! Thanks VICE!!!
“ We are not solving peoples problems anymore” That pretty much sums up why these people are being pushed out and why the EPA Needs to be Deregulated. When has the government or any of its agencies EVER Solve problems instead of creating
@S R how so?
@S R Did you not pick up on me saying that they shouldn’t be trying to solve everybody’s problems. The fact that they THINK they were doing so in the first place, Is the problem. It is not the governments role, nor are they capable by their very nature of solving anybody’s problems. I think it’s your English comprehension that needs work
You're making an interesting point Brad. Government agencies like the EPA start off with best intentions, but then they seem to fall short of achieving their
goals. Why, in your opinion, does this happen even with something so important as rescuing the environment. Shouldn't the EPA's current objective be to
to reverse climate change by taking us out of overshoot? Any questions and or answers are much appreciated. Thanks!
I love Vice News!
Because they don't mess with your world perception.
Kimberly Rea why they suck
Josh Myers yes they tell the lemmings exactly what they want to hear.
Tony Arcieri my world perception is based upon research of facts. Not hate and Faux News. Or gay frogs and whatever bullshit you guys make up. Vice News might seem boring because they are not incendiary. They are rarely snarky. They report the facts. These people go to foreign countries and show us what is going on in these places. They show us the results of policy, even Obama’s policy. Right or wrong. They don’t take sides. I think you don’t like Vice for just that reason. You want your news to tell you what to think. Vice doesn’t to do that and that’s my world perception.
Kimberly Rea same Here
I can't think of a single good reason why Scott Pruitt would grant Vice an interview. Vice really should drop News from their name.
I don't want an emissions system and DEF for my trucks!!!
EPA since Trump : Environment Polluting Agency
I would just like to say how enormously huge I am enjoying every moment of President Trumps Presidency. And please Vice bring us more of this. What an absolutely great way to start the day.
phillip kalaveras idnoramous
Phrasing reveals another Russian bot. When will you people learn English?
Now the EPA is trying to make it so you can no longer modify your car that you own for racing or off road purposes. They are literally raiding tuning companies and parts suppliers. They think that only NASCAR matters. They need to go
Irony folks...come to california just dont expect to have a fire without a permit which someone like you will deny.
finally actually officials starting to admit whats going on we all fucking knew it anyways but its nice to take off the tin foil hat every once and awhile
If minimun wage employees can be drug tested at anytime then i see no difference if these people are.
should minimum wage people be drug tested if there is no reasoning behind it? Shouldn't you only be required to undergo a breach of privacy if there is probable reasoning to back it up?
Everyone in Gov should be drug tested
I was listening to the radio about Biden’s new pick to be the head of the EPA. And I thought, “wow, that must be interesting to work for an agency that could potentially have new leadership every 4 years”. So I looked for a video, “What’s it like working for the EPA?”..: and I am here.
In dealing with EPA since the 70s . The epa is worthless . They don not care what you do as long as you pay your permits on time . You don't pay them and they are picking you apart and fining you . Pay your permits and you will never see them for years untill you don't . Worthless
Holy shit the comments. America is through. Reason is through. Science through. All hail king Trump.
My parents love trump, what should I tell them about this and climate change?
Professor Oak... I wish there was an easy answer, but Trump fans tend to give everything he does a pass. The good news is... I really don't think it will be much longer that he is allowed to be president. Between his hidden tax records (most likely hiding some kind of money laundering or tax evasion)... and his penchant for turning people and countries against him (and us as a nation)... this cannot keep going too much longer! So... cross your fingers... don't let this cause problems between you and your parents... and watch all news sources very carefully so that you can understand both sides of this issue. Good luck!
Nothing says EPA like gathering around an air polluting inefficient heating source
Enjoy America.
He is making America the greatest country to not be
Just like real jobs. Bosses are liars and workers are threatened.
Diesel now and days release about 0.01ppm out of the tailpipe cleanest engines in the world but the stupid EPA thinks they doing sum . Stupid clucks
Drug test? OMG!!!! Thank you President Trump for draining the swamp...
All the videos wtih xlephone songs are brainwashing.
why do everyone look like betas or gays?
Trump is a business man , never forget that.
Wtf did I just watch. So boring
You work for the people. You will bend to the will of the people. Doesn't matter if you like it. I wouldn't let EPA jackasses touch my goldfish pond.
#DefundtheEPA
So many right-wing "triggered snowflakes" in the comments 😂
lolllll. We aren't the one having a pow-wow around a camp fire to share our feelings about how bad it is that Executive Branch is regulating what we want.
how can it be that is this system of openly bribed politicians is legal ?
People! how many more incidents and interviews should occur before you impeach this president??
HUNG BULLDADDY I do not want hillary but i neither do want a racist in the oval office
Duffer Man the shitole incident for example?
Richard Roy prove he said it.
Richard Roy even if he did, prove he was wrong.
Yes impeach the racist so we can have the bigger racist.
quit or were fired?
left or were fired?
Let’s gather round campfire and sing our campfire song. . . .
king oreos Anytime anyone one says I left government. Because of X. It was AFTER they got there pension.
Where are all Trump supporters calling this fake news or something? Because nothing that is even remotley critical to Trump can be true, right?? -.-
Try a better reality show
scott pruitt of the EPA is the ron swanson of the parks department... and i love it. I hope the epa fissiles into irrelevancy.
American Crusader This is damn funny, but the analogy isn’t there. Ron Swanson insisted on doing absolutely nothing. Ron closed his door and turned away all visitors. Pruitt is quite active. He actively removes or pauses all environmental regulations and solely speaks with fossil fuel companies.
Love Ron Swanson.
Seems to me that these EPA folks have been enduring this for quite sme time, not just when trump got into office. Im not a trump fan btw, just a thinking citizen.
My thoughts exactly. I'm a middle of the road kind of guy and the war between the 2 major parties fascinates and saddens me. It used to be about representing what was best for the citizens but has devolved into almost a sporting event with just 2 teams constantly fighting each other just trying to win. It has absolutely nothing to do with the people anymore. The prevailing mentality is even more interesting. Again I am a middle of the road guy and have already expressed my opinion of the current state of politics in America, but as a rational, logic seeking person, definitely the more unhinged and scary of the 2 sides is definitely the left. I mean, the hypocrisy is astounding. I have never seen a more hateful, slanderous, more disgusting and hypocrital group of people in my life. For those who are not keenly aware when Trump got elected, one of his critics, Kathy Griffin (I hear she's a comedian although I find her more annoying than funny) decided it would be a good idea to pose for pictures holding a bloody severed head in the image of Donald Trump. That was probably the most disgusting, distasteful, and disrespectful displays I have ever seen. Was she condemned by the public? Of course not. Could you imagine if someone did that on the right when Obama was elected? This is just a tiny example of the behavior of the left and the hypocrisy involved. They claim outrage over those who are hateful and derogatory, yet they themselves are the absolute most hateful and derogatory ones in this country. How do people justify being against hate while simultaneously spewing hate themselves?
Trump's intrusion on the EPA and on EPA's directives, serves as a sign that the primary cause of climate change is the 'Global Economic Model' GEM, and it's
incorrect definition of profit. Technology is the indirect cause of climate change. We need a new GEM that supports a new definition of profit, and this 'profit'
definition must map well with nature's economy. In nature, we have been paid in full, in advance, and our job is to gain sustenance without going into Overshoot.
I recommend this definition: Profit = our gratefulness and loving care for our Environment, and for the sustenance that it provides to all of us.
Clearly, this definition of profit does require a new GEM.
The central part of the new Global Economic Model should be the EPA. EPA members will vote on the best 'Profit' definition that states sustenance
is our only actual 'gain' without which we can't live, and states that the environment is our only source of sustenance.
As the central hub of the new GEM, EPA members will establish, by vote, all directives related to both, the GEM and climate rescue strategies.
Here are just some rough ideas of what the EPA directives might be:
1.) Population: Initially we need a one child per family directive.
2.) In place of income, jobs would have an 'equivalency rating'. Some jobs are still more important and more difficult than others.
3.) All equivalency ratings will increase at the same time if and when the environment becomes healthier. The lowest EquivRate must still be livable.
4.) Everyone who can work will be able, and required, to get jobs. No more expenses, so no more cutting jobs to reduce expenses; thus, virtually no more homelessness.
5.) No manufacturing of useless and unnecessary products. All products will be scrutinized by various rating methods.
6.) Whenever possible products should last a lifetime and or be easily upgradable, so we don't buy the same products repeatedly.
7.) EPA will direct "Work Force Flow". Example: Shoe manufacturer will produce 100yearLife shoes for 3 years, then reduce output to about 1/10 of full capacity, and
the majority of shoe employees will be shifted to other work assignments by the EPA. Employees still keep their EquivRate in-between jobs.
I know that this is just a rough outline of what we must do, but it's a good starting point.
This is our Ark. Please help build it! Questions, suggestions and any comments for or against this idea will be very deeply appreciated. Thank you!
💖
As the Central part of the new Global Economic Model the EPA will become an enormous institution that will always need more employees; thus, there will always be jobs available that are involved with caring for the environment. These jobs will have high EquivRates. It's ironic that the objects we produce are the "expense" in this Global Economic Model because they cause damage to the environment both by their presence in the environment and by their production method.
When things go wrong due too few or no or not cared for regulations, low income people are those who have to suffer most. So mostly Trumps base ... well thining out the gen pool this way does not have to be a bad thing.
ask them about weather manipulation
Their power to drill it to the wallets of business has been restricted. It seems the reasons for retiring are because their power has been reined in!
or possibly the fact that people who chose a career to ensure the protection and well being of American people and our natural resources, are now just pawns for large corporations to cut corners and escape responsibility
0 for 10?
Wonder why?
I'd like to see the other half of this argument.
Simply put the EPA is a federal body that writes guidelines, they don't respond in the field, that's left to local Hazmat folks, or DEQ agencies in the state, which also help establish state environmental guidelines. Reduced guidelines at the federal level = people being offered early retirement packages. The EPA is NOT, I repeat NOT some band of people washing oil off of ducks, they are the ones saying "you should wash the oil off of those ducks, and pay a big fine for spilling it in the first place."
Marc Ariss thanks for that response
In my line of work I have seen many small businesses lose everything because of an EPA fine. EPA is another revenue stream for the government to tax. EPA doesn’t do anything about the problem.
Government employees getting drug tested breaks down trust? I guess I'm the most distrustful person on the planet. I'm a gvt employee and I get tested constantly. What makes them special that they don't have to follow the same rules as the rest of us?
schweatty.... First, I'm sure those people wouldn't want you to drug test without a really good reason. It's another freedom given up... I'm 60 years old. I don't drink or do drugs, but it's like considering me or you guilty, and having to prove our innocence before there is any call for it. Why not randomly alcohol and drug test automobile drivers on occasion, without swerving or getting into an accident? Hey, I don't drink... but I don't believe that randomly having to prove my innocents for no reason is a good idea.
I can see having to take drug test if you are a heavy equipment operator or some other potentially dangerous job, but otherwise I believe there should be a good reason to randomly and very personally subject a drug test on anyone. It is invasive... and very untrusting!
Same with the Patriot Act. I consider myself a patriot, but make no doubt about it, the government has taken away many of our freedoms when they enacted this decree!
4 more for 45!
Level Joe You turn 45 in 4 days? Congrats!
Mike Rowe 2024
#greatawakening
Remember when Vice was good?
They really were too...hard to believe how far they’ve fallen.
Remember when the EPA released their data and research to the tax payers who pay for it?
Remember when conservatives didn't have to deny every fact to make them feel better about Trump? I dont
I member
aaron costelloe yeah I couldn’t really reply without hearing myself like a member berry I think some nostalgia is changing my perception here
"I hate Trump so I'm going to quit and give people who support him more control and less resistance inside the EPA, because I love the environment"
Nice work #resisting you shitords.
You are NOT getting it... They were NOT allowed to do their jobs!
Drain the swamp!
The right wing trolls are alive in this thread. Is it cold in Russia too?
TRUMP 2020!!!!!
Mike Rowe 2024!
I quit to avoid being fired by the EPA. I just wanted to pick winners and losers in business. Is that so wrong???
Level Joe not sure if I follow you there.
I hope to one day see this entire administration go to the gallows.
When I hear the term career government. I think along the lines of career town drunk or career court jester. Why don’t you do a story on how being a conservative working in a government filled with SJW, and socialist can drive you nuts?
studinthemaking Is that why all the conservatives in government are so bat-sh*t?
Tom Seriously You surround by that all day. It does drive you nuts
The EPA need to be shutdown. I don't feel sorry for these government workers.
brokenhalo22 Ok ! SJW
Kase 317 why does the EPA need to be shutdown?
Nathaniel Brittingham The government is too big. It has become a cancer.
Kase 317 then how do we protect air and water resources?
Nathaniel Brittingham do private voluntary organizations like charities.
The economy is better than it has ben in 20yrs, unemployment is down, and ISIS is burning a memory!!!!
Mr.762 unemployment was 4.9% by the time Obama left , Syria forces were already seiging raqqa by December, and had made significant gains by January of 2017 during Obama presidency. Economy was rising already before Trump got into office.
Wait, they are stepping down and retiring instead of attempting to resist the administration and fix things? They must really care about the environment
What else they can do. If they resist they'll just get fired anyway.
They care about their health and sanity. Don’t judge if you aren’t doing anything either.
Yeah they should rather stay in that agency, which loses influence every day, and should betray their own principles to stay in a job, where they fight a fight that can't be won to retire 5 years later completely stressed out.
Ian Cornell lol what a naive comment. “Stand up to the administration” while working for it. Have you ever held a job?
They are sitting around a wood burning fire, CO2 emissions and cutting down trees for it, they only want the green money.
That fire is bad for the environment
Wildfires are natural
No it's not.
You right, any fire is technically bad for the environment. We probably should all just freeze to death in the winter because that is the single best way to save the world!
No not all fires are bad for the environmen, come on people.
5:37
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Lol so blame Trump for climate change and every little municipal issue, but ignore the rest of the developing world which is increasing it's pollution rate no matter what we do...Americans care about sexuality, skin color and politics most don't even bother comprehending; while the Chinese work hard, with their heads down, wanting more...We're doomed ;D
Thats the swamp kids.
occupynewparadigm
*God
occupynewparadigm goddamn...double roast
occupynewparadigm since you asked it's 149. Thanks for playing Corky.
TheGreatFezzywig Corky doesn't know it's called upper and lower case?
That originates from when they used to set type for printing presses. The uppercase had capital letters and lowercase had...
Let's see if you can guess?
heh
Sweet! Drain the swamp!
The only thing that needs draining is your liquid brain.
Kris Goodman Drink a gallon of Flint tap water.
Kris Goodman Spoken like a true dummy^ just repeats buzz-phrases and let’s Daddy Trump do the thinking for him
Drug testing is breaking down the trust...wow, sounds like entitled employees crying
Good! Make the government needs to be downsized immensely
+PickleishBilLL so does the population, since you can't even write a sentence correctly you should volunteer to be part of the solution for that problem.
Make you sentences needs to be better soon. Good luck in that
Sorry *make the government smaller... you obviously got my point
PickleishBILL... YEAH, DOWNSIZE GOVERNMENT.... AND LET'S START WITH THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH!!!
1
no.
It's called Draining the Swamp!
you got it!
dawnetodusksf draining all that coal water into your river. Enjoy the extra electrolyte coming from your faucet it will make your bones strong.
dawnetodusksf these are experts in their field
The Flint water crisis occurred during the last regime. The epa is a bloated bureaucracy. It needs down sized.
Jarid Gaming so you want more government to police the inept government that inadvertently poisoned the water. That’s great. Perhaps we could get even more government to watch that government that watches that government. It’ll be great. Governmentception if you will.
Why not engage those critical thinking skills and investigate why the Flint water crisis occurred, what the EPA's role in monitoring and enforcement was, and how they could have prevented it. The answers should lead you to the conclusion that the EPA needs more power to enforce their standards, and hold responsible those that don't. Furthermore, if you kept looking, you'd find that they are grossly understaffed for the amount of work that they need to do, which leads to safety problems that aren't caught until they become disasters.
brokenhalo22 I could not disagree more.
That was a brilliant in-depth rebuttal to my point. Care to elaborate, or should I just assume that you're just another brainwashed American?
The EPA needs to be abolished and done away with!!!
MoNgO OoOoOo how is Moscow these time of year
Just like in african countries
MoNgO OoOoOo must be hard living wih mental illness. You have my sympathy
MoNgO OoOoOo and what will your children and grandchildren have left think of the future please
All these "Henny Penny's" too !
Your asked to do a drug test and your mad...hmmmm.
lol rekt
Drug test are moral policing and draconian
A person either does a job your satisfied with or doesn’t, how does their down time belong to their employers?
*You're
I'm on drugs but at least I can spell.
It's because that basically means they're being accused of being on drugs.
Cannabis is legal in D.C. so I'm not sure why it's an issue.