DJI Osmo Action 4 Hands-On Review // Better Than a GoPro for Cycling?
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- The DJI Osmo Action 4, the latest sports action camera from DJI, touted to rival or even outperform GoPro's latest offerings. With these bold claims, I put this camera to the test in various conditions - under the sun, on sand, and even in the rain - to see how it performs during my recent biking adventures. If you're eager for a quick and direct comparison against the GoPro Hero 11, skip ahead to the 9:05 mark for an in-depth quality (reality) check.
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Video Index:
0:00 Intro
0:56 Technical Specifications
1:53 Pricing
2:17 Action Cam Bundle Wars
2:43 Unboxing
3:53 Camera Weight
4:06 Hero 11 Weight Comparison
4:47 Road Testing Summary
7:13 Things I LIKE
8:52 Things I DON'T LIKE
9:05 Stabilization / Image Quality Testing
11:41 Things I DON'T LIKE cont.
16:04 Things I'm Neutral On
18:44 Other Issues - Lens Condensation
19:11 Audio Test / Comparison
19:38 External Mic Recommendation
20:00 Voice Control
20:19 Wrap-Up
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I've had 4 different Gopro's over the years, the last one being the 10. I had overheating issues with all of them. I like action cameras because of their size and ease of use. I have the Action 3 and the things that impressed me most about this camera is it does not overheat, and connecting a wireless mic is MUCH easier. No need for added adaptors or anything like what you'll need when using a gopro. Also I never had connectivity issues when using my phone to connect to the app. Has worked every time I use it. The mounting system is genius. I won't be getting the A4 because the A3 is so good to me.
Great as always!
The main thing that has been deal breaker for me, is that the Osmo has never had problems with over heat in 4K. Always just worked and never any hang ups. The GoPro, my good. All those updates:)
Adding to what you said, for me, anything that OVERHEATS, no matter how impressive the action cam is, is AUTOMATICALLY a deal breaker for me.
Meaning, I could live with a JITTERY video than NOT having captured any video at all.
I guess there are just some GP fan boys who could not accept that.
Me, I don't own any action cam yet, be it a GP or a DJI. The reason why I watched this video is because I am canvassing for my FIRST action cam.
I guess this content creator is leaning towards the GP.
At any rate, I am waiting for the release of the GP12 before finally deciding to get one.
Nevertheless, this video is informative.
Nice review as always - still "rocking" my original OSMA Action and it's performing well.
Nice turns there sweeping down from Lower Beechmont and about to join onto Beaudesert - Nerang Rd. That’s a nice ride, that one.
Does it has clip length settings (15s or 30s like the GoPro)?
Or does this will be a feature of the Action 5?
Did you try out the Horizon Levelling - and is it any better than GoPro's? Whenever I've tried to use it on my GoPro, it just slowly goes out of level - or it gets "stuck" if I go around a corner. It seems to be an issue people experience if the GoPro is mounted on a bike or vehicle.
Once I saw the general stabilisation and image quality issues this camera had in my testing, I didn't continue poking the bear. I do encounter the levelling problem with my GoPros though in Horizon Level mode. Apparently a known issue for bikes/motorbikes and is best used on human mounted setups. I'll dig more into this soon. Maybe with the Hero 11, or 12 if it's out in a few weeks as expected.
between insta x2 and osmo 3 which one would you recommend for bike rides?
thank you greatly for actually presenting a review from a non sponsored point of view. ( they threw the camera around to everyone and their dog and it seems you might be the only person who has bought one in the world ! ) . My use case is strapped to a helmet riding a motorbike and camping ( if the gopro could actually stop being flaky ). And from that point of view some of your points you made about rocksteady etc are of vital import. I was very interested to see the low light in and out of dappled shade ( I go out on the same roads on the bike ) stabilisation issues. 👍
DJI have reached out and wanted the raw footage from both the Action 4 and Hero 11 for further analysis, which is good news they've watched the video and want to improve the product. I'm just home from another ride with the camera mounted on the bike and can confirm the latest firmware is still the same as shown here in regard to low light/tree cover and stabilisation. I'll post an update in the future if they improve things.
I was wondering if they could improve this in firmware. It’s pretty fundamental especially when we’re not even talking about low light. On this basis I cannot purchase it in its current state
Forgive me if im way wide of the mark... whats the point in DJI producing what effectively seems like a slightly lower quality Go-Pro copy for pretty much the same price?
Would they be better doing something that stands out or make their product significantly cheaper or come with all the accessories you can shake a stick at?
Profit. And they believe it’s a good (or better). DJI went very BIG on the CZcamsr/Influencer spend with this release. They offered me a cash incentive to produce a video according to their guidelines. (Clearly I declined the money, but accepted the camera hardware for the purposes of reviewing in my use cases)
Please try the cameras yourself, as you might be off the mark. I have access to both GP and DJI, and find the Osmo line better. For many people, GoPro is unreliable. It will crap out when recording. The menus are worse, screen responsiveness. I like the DJI build quality better as well, and it is nicer looking. The magnetic mount is a brilliant addition and it takes seconds to move the camera. It does not overheat compared to the GoPro. The front touchscreen is a MUST for chest mounted applications, where you want to adjust settings. The batteries both last longer, and support quick charging, which is super useful! Night performance is better. The biggest drawback for me is the lack of a GPS chip, so that telemetry can be included in the video. But I would say DJI actually leads in some departments.
Does it still interfere with GPS when mounted beneath a headunit?
Hi, I enjoyed your review. I found interesting that I got the same inconsistent turn-on time in Action 3, from super-quick to =8 s. (12:33). It is not only with snapshot, it is also the same when you turn on an then start recording (at least in Action 3).
Good to hear someone else has had the same experience. Hopefully something they address.
@@gplama Yes, unfortunately, we may have to wait for Action 5... May be a hardware limitation...
I have the OA3 and it wasn’t a pinch on the quality of the GP11. So one thing people don’t talk about is resale value if these things. GoPro’s are easy to sell, in fact I’ve sold multiple at more than what I paid for. Whereas the OA3 I can’t sell anywhere near a decent price. Losing over 25% on a camera that’s only a few weeks old.
The bigger sensor in the OA4 would be nice but I get decent results on the GP11 in low light by using certain settings.
The Quick Action button on the OA3 is also a pain, just like the record button. Hard to find and press in, so I presume it’s like that on the OA4.
Really looking forward to see what the GP12 brings to the table. Hopefully a 1:1 sensor that can shoot at 5.3K in 1:1 and at least at 60FPS, and also help control heat buildup better to even it up with the competition, not that I encounter overheating issues with the way I shoot.
Hi Shane, did you try the normal rocksteady? Does it have the same issue as rocksteady plus?
Tried a combination of all, including the horizon lock. Nothing worked as well as I’d hoped. There’s mention of the lower 30fps mode allowing better performance, but that’s a compromise other cameras don’t have to make.
In low light did you try turning on the Low Light enhancement??
@@MikeRheannasAdventures No, I was at 60fps where it isn't an option. I've since been using it with the latest firmware - Same issue in sunny conditions with shadows. DJI have asked for the raw footage from both their camera and the GoPro to look further into this issue.
@@gplama we have seen other DJI Osmo Action 4 camera reviews and the low light enhancement has worked great for them just seems weird that it didn’t work for you
Shane, how long we have to wait for cycling (sport/action/etc) camera which will be paired with varia/igpsport/etc radar? Today a car almost ran me off the road again. I'm waiting for camera with good stabilization which will act only when needed... it will save battery. Most of them care about your opinion, so please push them all (dji, gopro, garmin, others) to more advanced development work! :)
The Varia RCT715 is your only option at this time.
@@gplama based on the DC Rainmaker RCT715 Depth Review the stabilisation is very weak. We have to wait for new varia camera or new product on the market.
I’ve also reviewed it in-depth.
Hi Shane, this is not about the dji camera. But have you Any experience with cooking perfect sweet potato fries with an air fryer? Hope you can help me :)
Stay tuned! We're getting one this week. And I f*%ing love CHIPS! 🍟
@@gplama Thanks Shane. Please wear dji osmo action 4 on chest mount while you cook (preferably in good lighting) 🍟
@@liam_c27 I might actually air-fry the Osmo Action 4 and use the GoPro to film it. 🤔
@@gplama😂😂😂😂
Will this new model link directly with the DJI mics?
No
I tried so much and its at the end a GoPro 9, its just the best. // Whats to like? The Video here i like :)
Crazy that this video has so little views. Should be number one on youtubes algorithm if you are looking to buy an action camera. So I push it with a comment and a like. 😊 Maybe this helps to make it worthwile for you and the number goes up. 😮
@gplama new firmware improves cycling video, can you confirm if there is a difference?
Retested this a week ago, no improvement.
There is no built-in GPS module in the DJI Action cameras either. So if you take photo or video, no location data is available, unlike the GoPro Hero 11
When riding through the forest, was the distortion in the gravel a result of the camera compression, or youtube compression? i know gopros have issues with rapid changing colours, like driving past heavily treed areas and moving over gravel etc.
Right. It looks terrible. I don’t know why more people aren’t calling this out.
@@TheBradBradish Gopro looks just as bad to be honest. i have the action 4 and its amazing in low light better than gopro as long as your not riding.
Probably the best review on this I've seen.
Seems a few weeks early to decide. This is comparing the new DJI model to the old GoPro model.
It seems as many free cameras as DJI sent out they may feel the need to get some cameras sold early! Maybe they know something we don't.
If we wait a few weeks we might be able to make a more informed decision.
I don't have a dog in the fight but I'm also not in a hurry and this seems rushed to market.
It might not change anything when the 12 comes out but I'll wait and see.
All I'm saying is most companies understand timing. 🤷♂️
Hi Shane, this is not about the dji camera. But have you Any experience using samsung dex connectet to a screen? With a connected mouse/keyboard is the interface the same as on regular pc. Hope you can help me :)
Nope.
@@gplama thanks for answer
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I would assume that the competition Go Pro has is why their prices are so competitive and why their tech still leads. Not every buyer of action cameras will watch reviews like this and just upgrade to brands they already have, I think that's what DJI banks on.
DJI has a MASSIVE SPEND on this promotion. They offered me a reasonable budget to produce a video to their guidelines. I accepted the camera, not the $. It's pretty clear to see who has accepted that offer from them. Cameras aren't my lane so to speak, as acknowledged at the end of the video. I did have high hope their "4th gen" action camera would give the GoPro a nudge, but it wasn't to be... for my use-case(s).
@@gplama Thanks for this additional info Shane - it certainly explains how gushy some other 'independent' reviews are. From your review I get that it is so similar in price to GoPro now that they needs to justify it in all areas and, for my use case, it doesn't.
@@gplamaglad to see you’re still on the neutral side of things. One other channel deleted my comments on the new dji (he said this is a gopro killer, i told him what you and ray concluded). The ‘take the money’ thing probably forced him to delete ‘negative’ comments, or references to other channels with no hurray atmospheres.
@@cyclingjack Camera reviews are super interesting. And not really in a good way. I respect that everyone has their own use cases and the Action 4 may suit theirs, thus their conclusions. The footage I took at the beach in Queensland was great. That wasn't my typical use case though. Bikes are, and that's where it clearly didn't perform very well. There's a whole host of other things too... stiff record button, remote that doesn't turn the camera on/off, condensation issues on my first ride (which in all honesty shouldn't happen in 2023)... the Acton 4 having a single BLE connection (you can't use the remote and connect to it with the app at the same time)....but here we are... people are defending it. It's very clear the card DJI played on this one. Shotgun the camera to as many people as possible, offer money, offer the potential for follow-up reviews (and even more money). The review saturation means videos like mine will sink down the rankings. In all honesty, covering it was a complete waste of my time. Anyhow. All a good learning process.
@@gplama thx for explaining. It explains a lot… I can see the reviews popping up in youtube all over the place, so indeed they push the camera. You and ray gave more insight. I hope more people don’t just rely on few positive video’s, but also watch other channels. The main thing drawn also is it’s pricing. It should have been 50-100 euro / dollar less. But ,as you pointed out, they need that money to buy them selves into the channels and youtube audience.
Thx mate!
9:50 The stabilisation "issue" that you are pointing at, is actually from the motion blur at slower shutter speed, and it can be fixed with a simple setting.
For the stabilisation to perform properly, you have to make shure to have a higher shutter speed than the 180 rule suggest.
This is not an issue with the camera, this is how digital stabilisation and optics works...
Luckily, the Action 4 let you set ranges of ISOs and Shutter speed while staying in automated mode ;)
If you shoot at 30fps, in day light I would recommend a range of 1/ 200 to 1/ 8000 for shutter speed and set your ISOs range from 100 to 1600.
I would also recommend setting your EV to -0.3 ;)
Herein lies the problem. I want to ride my bike, not deal with manually tweaking camera settings. The GoPro seems to handle my simple workflow requirements. DJI have asked me to retest with their latest update. Maybe they’ve work some magic?
@@gplama Well, I understand that action cams are mostly "rec and forget".
And the GoPro might prioritize holding onto a higher shutter speed to keep the stabilisation. This is at the cost of low light performance...
Basically when you have any sort of camera with a fix aperture in automatic mode, if the quantity of light drops there is only 2 settings that the camera can play with:
- Either increease the ISOs
or
- Slow down the shutter
When to do what is the key here.
When to do what, is the big question here...
For high vibration action, like cycling, you would want 1/ 200 or 1/ 400 shutter to eliminate the motionblur in those jitters, so you wouldn't see the work of the digital stabilisation.
But for a slight walk and talking head, you would mostlikely want to have as much light and as low Isos as possible...
This is why I suggest to make 2 custom settings, one for your talking heads/chill and one for high action.
Then you can choose C1 or C2, "Rec and forget" 😊
I assume that in the newest firmware they set a parametter that try, as much as possible, to keep a 1/ 200 or 1/ 400 shutter when rocksteady + is on.
That would be smart ;)
@@gplama Hi ! Still the same problem with the last update or problem fixed ? Appreciate very much your feedback 🙏🏽
Bro… we are cyclist hoping to capture content. Not trying to be pro cameramen.
@@Funsiestype But that's what it is, a camera 😅
So, as I said: you can have all in auto but tell it to keep the shutter speed fast enough for the stabilisation.
That is basically what the "enhanced low light" mode does in every camera brand 🤷🏽♂️
Sir is 1/1.3 inch sensor is larger than 1 inch sensor?
No. And a quick Google will get you this answer, and more.
I don’t know how people don’t spect overheating if the camera it’s an action camera and they are seating with it, or walking around. Action cameras are for action not for blogger.
One things that makes me lean towards DJI is the fact that I've seen a lot of people complain about the GoPros overheating.
Didn't the Action 3 have GPS built-in?
I've never had a GoPro overheat on the bike. The Hero 11 Mini had reliability issues early on, resolved in later firmware (from my usage experience anyhow). That's a good little unit now.
Not sure on the GPS on the Action 3. This is the first of the Osmo Action cams I've used.
@@gplama If you poke around on YT for "GoPro overheating", you'll find a lot of videos on the subject. I found one video where someone did some testing and found that if you don't have the flippers open on the bottom, it cuts off airflow inside the camera. Another one suggests that when you start cranking up the resolution and turn up the stabilization, this will happen. Even with the flippers open and having some steady airflow, some people still had the cameras shutting down, but it bought them more time, like double.
Another person suggests plugging in an external battery into the camera because the battery is getting hot and if its on an external power source, the external power will provide the power needed to run the camera and not heat up the internal battery.
During a lot of these tests, the DJI cameras and the Insta cameras never shut off, but in some cases the LCD screens would stop working.
I wonder if in your case, the bike is moving enough to keep this from happening and also perhaps you are not shooting in the highest resolution and that's keeping things under control. I have the DJI Action camera (the original one) and it's never shut off on me, and the only other GoPro we have in the house is a 4 Hero, so I don't have a way to test this myself.
Personally for my use cases shooting in 4K or higher is just bonkers, so perhaps a newer GoPro will be in my future if I can record at a lower resolution and not have it shut down and I'll get the GPS data with it. On the other hand my current DJI camera still works great, so I don't have anything driving me to make a purchase. I'll probably keep using it till it dies.
Also, I checked, no, the Action Camera 3 didn't have GPS in it either. Interesting that the GoPro has had that for a while now.
nice action camera, hopefully i can buy soon
Why this one? I assume you’re not a cyclist.
And imagine when the GoPro 12 comes out next month. This will be left in the dust!💨
GoGurbish you should say! No reliable at all!!!
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about how you say "stabilization problem" it is not stabilization problem... it is problem with selection of the exposure time and iso to the lighting conditions and the strength of vibrations, stabilization is working great, stabilization problem has gopro in exposure time under 1/100 seconds, this is stabilization problem. Hero's select it better than still dji, especially if you need demanding stabilization you need a minimum of 1/480s, Hero sacrifices iso in favor of a shorter exposure time to best maintain stabilization.
Definitions aside, the Action 4 performs very poorly in the conditions shown compared to the Hero 11.
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Obviously. This video isn’t exactly a glowing review.
The Low light stabilization on the DJI action 4 when walking or jogging absolutly destroys the gopro 11 .
I’m going to review dji camera…. Proceeds to let us know how much he likes GoPro. Lol
Jump to the comparison section and you tell me which is better. If you have eyes you’ll come to the same conclusion as me. Go.
@@gplama point is.. it was not a review, as title suggested. I’m 10 years past any interest in GoPro.
What constitutes a review? You’re also not answering my question.
This release is a straight up mess. DJI have flooded the market with cameras and paid advertising. They offered me money to produce a review to their guidelines. I refused that so I could be honest, and you’re still having a crack at me. Can’t win, eh?
@@gplama obviously a proper review is a video of you just reading out the key features of this camera that DJI sent you, nothing else.
@@davewme like GoPro or don't like GoPro, they started the action cam industry and they remain its leader. saying you like GoPro doesn't mean you can't compare it to other cams... I'm sure every competitor would LOVE to win comparisons to GoPro and what better way to win one than with a reviewer who loves GoPro but finds something better / unique. Unfortunately while the Action 4 is a great camera with some good features (the magnetic latching mount remains a strong point) it still falls a bit short in image quality and included features vs. a one year old GoPro model which is about to be replaced with an even better one we assume. That was ok when the price was $170 CHEAPER for the $329 Action 3 vs. $499 GoPro Hero 11 last year but now isn't as acceptable since GoPro permanently lowered their price to $399 and Action 4 RAISED its price to $399.