ReGrading McDavid Young Guns - 3rd Time Grading The Same Card. Different Grades Every Time! PSA???
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But for a quick update. We graded this exact same Connor McDavid Young Guns rookie card THREE times. First with BGS (It received a 9.5 GEM MINT grade), then with PSA (it received a PSA 8). And we sent it right back to PSA to find out if there’s any consistency when these companies grade. And what exactly everyone is paying big money for.
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This is why A.I. is going to take over grading.
Thank you for making this video...
I have been saying the exact same thing about PSA for years...
I've had a big problem looking at so many PSA 10's and seeing obvious reasons to the naked eye why they should not be a 10.
I have a few PSA 10’s that actually piss me off because they just are not 10’s. I would say 8’s
Great video. I’m thinking of sending in a bunch of UD Young Guns and I came across your video after looking for content regarding grading YG. I have no experience grading YG and find that these cards are very hard to grade because of the QC out of a fresh pack. It’s crazy how the initial grade was so low. I can’t believe how PSA is inconsistent!
Yeah. It’s a bit everywhere. Honestly centering is a big thing for the young guns. If I were you I’d invest in a centering tool on eBay or Amazon. It’s just a plastic ruler of sorts which likes up the cards for centering
Thanks for these videos. Eye opening.
Great video.I pulled a Connor Mcdavid buyback rookie young gun Auto /97 from 2017-18 SPAuthentic a bit ago , I was going to send it in for grading ,this makes me think twice.thanks for info.
It’s a nice McDavid. Hopefully you guys have better luck this time around.
The fact that the Gretzky PSA10 still has the flash to the right of the card makes it less circulated that on with a straight edge where that flash has been removed over time, at least thats how it was explained to me. Makes sense.
I’ve been heavily collecting since 1990. BUY THE CARD, NOT THE GRADE.
This!
Sure, I try to do that... but it's not easy to convince people their psa 10 is actually an 8 and should sell it to me for 4 times less
I agree with your take regarding the current and future state of the hobby and the issues with grading at the moment.
TAG GRADING is the future
If it's within a point grade I don't think that's a problem too much... that's within the expected variance that they all state up front (I get that the BGS was a 1.5 difference, but -- different company). They have standards, but they will be interpreted subjectively. The bigger issue is the consumer placing that much more value on a 10 compared to a 9 or a 9 compared to an 8, the difference in quality of which is actually quite minor. I remember seeing an SGC video where they downgraded a card harshly due to an imperfection they had to use some special spectral imaging equipment to even notice. Was invisible to the naked eye and had no effect on eye appeal. If you want to keep it from being a "pristine 10" because of that, I get it. But beyond that it shouldn't have much, if any, effect. I guess my rambling point is like many other people said, the card and eye appeal should be the primary selling point, with a premium on grading for the preservation and authenticity. Additional premiums for high grades probably shouldn't be as exponential as they are. And the danger is that the grading companies will artificially toughen their grading to make their higher grades more coveted.
Good points. And I did see that SGC video. But very seldom do cards go through that specific machine. It seems the rest are graded quickly and it’s luck of the draw as per the graded at the time. It would be nice is every card went through a machine like that and these companies send you the scan from that machine alongside your card with an explanation for why each grade was given.
Damn! Thanks for the great video!
Looks like a 10 to me , thank for posting this video I wanted to send some cards but now I’m going to wait
This is the reality of PSA. They are no better at grading than anyone else.
Amen
Cool video...I think that the grading company had too many new/undertrained employees to handle the back orders. It's great you got a mint 9 this time. Peace out & TY 4 sharing'
#snipecitycardsballot8
All grading by every grading company is just the personal opinion on that day by that grader. The saw looking cut is from OPC which were cut with wire. With grading you are either in or out. If you are just a collector and do not buy to flip/sell, then no need to worry. Just enjoy the hobby.
I got lucky, sent in a Bedard First Draft in bulk tier.. psa 10, going to be hanging on to that!
Awesome!
@@SnipeCityCards LOL Bedard all his pre rookie cards will be under $20 when his Young guns card comes out .
interesting but i cant see the chipping on the top right edge from the PSA 8
Thank you for sharing this. Grading really is all about $$$. You could send these cards in over and over and get a different grade. I think it is a complete scam you pay by the “ declared value “. Even though the grading is probably the same, HGA I believe, charges per card only. Not the value. Thank you again for this
Thanks. I am planning on trying an HGA submission. But I keep not getting picked when I remember to join the lobby
@@SnipeCityCards I tried once and didnt get picked either
Yeah. I’d like to get a few in for the channel at some point
Great video, it just shows that Beckett 9.5 will normally won’t cross. At least not worth trying, just better to pay the double or more, if you want PSA 10
Elaborate
Try one of the many new grading companies like HGA, RGC, or CSG. New companies have something to prove so they’ll work to be consistent. The older companies like Beckett and PSA will continue to do what they do no matter what because they don’t have to work anymore. They’re established already.
Just got our first submission to HGA the other day, finally. So we should have a video up in the next few months when it comes back!
30 years ago we had the junk wax era, now we have entered the junk slab era. Pop report on some of these cards is going to be nuts. So to stay in the hobby now I have the choice of buying a hobby box or a vacation or a used car, all the same price. Guess what is left out? Have not bought anything in retail for about 6-8 months. Not a hobby anymore when you can’t buy anything.
Yeah. I agree. It went out of control. And let’s be real, there’s like 30 different subsets of cards. It’s pretty much the junk wax era. There’s so much out there.
#snipecitycardsballot8 at least this time you got a PSA 9 instead of a PSA 8 again, nice video!
Nice turn around time
Thanks for sending me here! Crazy how grading cards can be so inefficient at times! That’s a real eye opener for me, better to skip paying high dollars for graded cards!
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Yeah. The crazier part is the value on the market. That mcdavid went from a BGS 9.5 to a PSA 8, then to a PSA 9 all in a month. Exactly the same card. The values of what it would’ve sold for at the different grades is insane. IT’S THE SAME CARD!
The PSA 8 at the time was prob worth $1000. The BGS 9.5 was worth like $1700 and the PSA 9 ended up being worth $1500. Just wildly inconsistent.
That 7.5 gretzky looked trimmed. Or was it topps?
It was opeechee. Not sure on just looking at a pic online and this is an older video but even with that, PSA wouldn’t / shouldn’t grade trimmed cards
I agree, this grading of cards is ruining the collecting side of things. There must be a way to stop this. These grading companies are definitely cashing in on this hobby and they charge such ridiculous prices for their services. No risk to them but they take advantage of the collector.
It’s naturally starting to slow down back to pre Covid times for grading companies
It’s a borderline 8-9. It’s really a 8.5 but psa barely hands out the 8.5. So it’s a card that can go either way between 8 and 9. Like most psa 10’s are 9.5 that rounded up. Their grading scale isn’t the best. SGC has the best grading scale for accuracy. But that card definitely won’t get a 10 if you sent it 100 times. But again you buy the card not the grade. I don’t buy off centered psa 10’s. And most people pay less on old psa label cards because grading was less strict, but since that was is so rare it demand more. If they sent that card in now it’ll get hammered. But investors buy slabs not cards for the most part.
Centering of the Oilers logo is a spot to watch. You can see the 10 v 7.5 difference there. Not saying that is all of the grade. But 7.5 is way off centre there.
I totally agree. PSA 10's that I bought are definitely not 10's, I'll try and do a video of every 10 I own to show the flaws in every card. I never submitted cards for grading, I only bought off eBay and without going over the pictures, just decent prices in auctions and best offers. Which is why I got them cheap, the seller's just wanted to get rid of damaged cards graded 10 that were definitely not perfect. Dinged corners, damaged edges and off centered very obvious. Makes you wonder that the grader never looked at the card and didn't have any knowledge or training.
I agree with this. Let me know if you throw up a video of it. Would be interested to see
It's funny to me how many people are mad at HGA over the number of 9 graded cards. However, if a card grading company is being strict on what it truly means to be gem mint, there should be a lot of 9 and lower graded cards. I should be able to buy a 10 from any company and know it's flawless to the naked eye. If I can see issues with my naked eye, the card shouldn't get a 10. It's like centering on Select football. There are clear indicators of centering issues, and if you can see those indicators you should be able to rely on the fact that a grading company won't give it higher than a 9 (maybe a 9.5 for those companies who say the rest of the card is flawless and have that score available). Unfortunately there needs to be a reckoning in the industry and PSA likely needs to be the company that suffers for it if grading is ever going to change to truly have objective and fair grades on cards that aren't subject to individual bias and/or population control among other items.
Yeah. I agree with this a ton! And regarding centering I remember a month back I was on eBay looking through BGS Auston Matthews YG’s and there were multiple cards with 10 centering with completely different alignment. His card is obvious to tell because the decals on the boards have a “ I “ right along the right edge of the card.
@@SnipeCityCards Part of it might be what some people say PSA has a tendency to do. Pop control is a thing, but it's even more real the older cards get. A card that when pulled in 2016 would have been a 10 may be lucky to get a 9 now because PSA doesn't want too many 10s. I could go on and on, but how PSA is still the leader for card grading is beyond me. The issues they've had should have destroyed their hold on the market.
Dude, I was thinking about doing this too. I just didn't do it because the turnaround time is almost a year.. Yea, submitting the same card to different professional graders to check for consistency or some sort of consensus among them. If you think about it - grading is pretty subjective and determining a grade can depend on numerous factors.. I mean everyone has different standards for everything but when it comes to cards there is a HUGE difference between an 8 and a 9 - that can "make or break" a card depending on the circumstances... Now send it back to BGS to get that 9.5 back, lol... Actually you should crack the slab and then resubmit it to PSA and see if they give you another 8 and chances are they wont.. I mean when it comes to grading there is a wide margin between an 8 and a 9.5. If PSA gave you a 9 then that wouldn't be anything to complain about but an 8 vs 9.5?? yea, that's just too wide.. I mean a PSA 8 YG sells for $800 and a PSA 9 is $1200-$1500 - you're talking almost 2x the value between the two grades.. SMH
Yeah. Exactly. There needs to be some sort of at least generalized consensus. 9.5 to 8 is way too wide of a gap
Dude that’s ridiculous the inconsistency at PSA and grading in general #snipecitycardsballot8
#snipecitycardsballot8 i totally agree with you
I’m totally in agreement with your comments. I like having graded cards & preserving sports history in that manner but it has become just a huge cash grab for the grading companies. The collectors are a bit bonkers too with the money they will pay for a 10 when you need a Hubble telescope to discern the alleged difference between a 9 vs 10. The coin grading comminity has gone crazy in the same manner
Yeah it’s a bit over the top for sure. Especially for PSA 10’s
psa has done fugged up.....i had over 400 cards with psa...i contacted them and had them ship them all back to me i am not getting anything graded with them.
BTW, the Gretzky you showed at a PSA 7.5 has been trimmed from a sheet. PSA doesn`t grade too many sheet cut cards(unlike BGS/BVG), but some do sneak through. The PSA 10 one, should`ve graded at around an 8.
Um, you must have missed the PWCC / PSA scandal...... like a year ago? PSA seems to be partly a scamming company working mainly for a few folks. Yes, we send our cards in and have to accept whatever grade they send back... but it also seems to be favoring others with friendly, undeserved grades! Greed Greed Greed... and on a side note, not sure people quit understand the repercussions of how the average folk were creating “wealth” with opening card packs..... open a 5-10 dollar pack and immediately turn it into 100 bucks, times that by the thousands 🤔. They need us “debt” enslaved, not finding extra ways to pay down debt ?
@@JoeyM007 what are you saying
Cards back then were cut with wire as the wire became dull the edges of the cards were bad what's not to say this Gretzky was cut from a sharp wire. To say its an O Pee Chee cut just means the wires were no longer sharp
@@geraldskibinsky2997 They were cut with piano wire, which has many individual strands laced together. So it would be impossible to cut a card that cleanly and smoothly with piano wire, no matter how "sharp" it is. Plus, it`s obvious just by looking at the Gretzky that it was cut from an uncut sheet, not pack pulled. There is a sort of "bowing/curl" to the right edge, caused from when the sheet was rolled up in storage, and unrolled so it could be cut. And, all sheet cut cards have surface issues, which is why it got the lower grade. Look up Martin Sportscards, most of the graded cards he sells are sheet cut, and are graded by BGS, and if you notice EVERY single one has a lower grade for the surface, than all the other sub-grades.
@@RichardRennes thanks for the info Richard learn sorting every day :)
Human error is present in any work place and or industry.
Slowly and sadly the grading is killing the hobby. When the hobby is monopolize by 4 companies(Beckett,PSA,UD and Topps),all they want to do is sell,sell,sell ,so the quality of the cards are not so great for the price and sometimes the grading is a real joke.Remember Beckett and UD are close friends...Nice vid,very interesting!
I agree. Too much greed in the hobby. I wonder if this era is wax era 2.0
I sent in a Pettersson OPC Platinum Rookie Auto with min grade 9 (it was pristine), it was the only card in that order. It ended up coming back "mingrade' meaning PSA thought it was an 8.5 or lower. I threw it straight back in an order with 4 cards and no minimum grade requirement and it comes back a Gem Mint 10. PSA's grading consistency is a joke recently, I think it's like what you said about all the new employees. A bunch of these new graders have no frame of reference, they are giving cards 7s and 8s for having tiny flaws that before would be graded 9s and 10s.
Worn. That’s ridiculous. We had a crossover order that just came back actually. 13 cards all missed the min grade
Maybe the more people put out videos like this it will help devalue the grading system. Its out of control a nice cards a nice card. Use it for authenticating purpose on older cards and leave the grading to the one who wants to buy it. Amazing to how the most iconic Psa 10s have never seen the market. Im sure they are sitting in the Psa CEOs safe.
I agree 100% with this! You hit the nail right on the head!
No one is making fake copies of Rasmus Sandin YG. Yet a raw goes for what? 25 bucks? And a PSA 10 goes for $175. They’re all gonna be almost mint cause they’ve just been pulled in the last year and a half!
Thank you for this. People forget that cards are graded by people and it is totally random. The whole "grading" thing that PSA and a few others do is really a dressed up opinion. It has created a huge bubble which is great for sellers, but anyone buying these cards at these prices are going to take it on the chin in a couple years when the bubble bursts. If you see an ungraded card that looks like mint and should be a $1000.00 card, I do not know how it suddenly becomes a $10,000 because some grading company says so after you paid a $1000.00 to them to "grade" it. But that is what is suddenly happening. It is a classic bubble because it is irrational
A Ricky Henderson 1980 baseball card is not worth $30,000.00 no matter what magic pixie dust these grading companies sprinkle on it when it was worth 1/10 (if that..I saw them going for a few hundred even ten years ago) of that just a few years ago. It is not like all these cards suddenly disappeared to drive up demand THAT much. And unlike "old cards" Pre 1970, most people held onto their cards and most are in very good shape because in the 1980's people started learning they were valuable. Before that, people played with them or threw them out..which is the entire reason the became valuable in the first place because there were not a lot of mint 1950's cards out there.
If you can get thousands for a 1980 or later card from a sucker now..hey congrats, but anyone paying tens of thousands for a card that they are suddenly now claiming is worth 10 times what is was 5 years ago is sailing to major disappointment if they think it is going to go up
Very well put
This is y i say if HGA does there gradrs the way they do that there way is the way companys have to follow someone needs to have an HGA card regraded to them like McDAVID WAS WITH PSA. I WILL NEVER SEND ANY more cards to PSA but will send all my cards to HGA CUZ I HAVENT seen bad reviews on this topic . PSA its like they drop numbers in a hate and picks them out and thats the grade for the card
This is true. Although there have been some updates lately of HGA grading fake cards and making mistakes etc. we are going to have a serious HGA comparison in the next few months where we will really out HGA to the test and see how good they actually are.
With the expansion of these grading companies come new 'graders', without consistency (or integrity?). With a 3m card backlog, I believe the individuals grading at PSA must have a quota to push out to get the cash flow back on, which will destroy their popularity due to lack of consumer confidence.
I agree and I would like to think that’s the case but to be honest I’m not sure that the majority of consumers take into consideration the actual condition of the card, once they see the grade that’s all. I think more in the know hobbyists are weary, but I think the issue will persist for a while. Granted PSA has acquired a company with computer card grading technology similar to HGA recently, so it seems like there is an attempt for rectifying the situation in some capacity
@@SnipeCityCards Absolutely. Not sure of the percentage of 'Hobbyists' that actually look at a card that has been graded, but I would hope it was greater than 50%. There will come a time when slabs will demand premiums for being pre/post PSA shutdown. SGC has same issues with grading inconsistency during this time frame as well.
Yeah. And that SGC walkthrough video that supposedly shows improvements, all I saw was red flags
It has the makings of another hobby card crash, that is if the ENTIRE WORLD ECONOMY doesn't crash first.
This!
I'm praying it happens.
3.75m cad or usd?
I actually don’t know. TSN and Sportnet have it as $3.75M so I assume CAD but other American websites say the same and I’d assume that is USD
McDavid looks like a 10 did you clean it first sometime its a 9 because of a smudge
Absolutely we did. Card looked fine to me. The 8 was laughable. Same card goes from BGS 9.5 to PSA 8 to PSA 9 in a matter of weeks lol
Thanks for this series of videos. Props to you for doing them (and spending the $$ to do it). #snipecitycardsballot8
PSA is a absolute JOKE. Never have used them and never will. Hobby has been brain washed by them.
Bodie: couldn't have said it better! I've seen some very inconsistent cards with off centering issues graded a PSA 10. SGC IMO has very consistent grading, although they don't get much hobby love...
PSA is ridiculous right now.. #snipecitycardsballot8
This is why TAG exists.
Yeah, I’m very interested in trying them out. Will try to get something together in the next few months
I think PSA should refund money back if the same exact card is graded differently with evidence showing it’s the same exact card.
Especially considering the insane cost of $300 USD + for it. I’m with you
I don't understand why anyone puts faith in PSA. There service has always been in question. They verified a bunch of fake autographs over the years. There card grading was always considered inferior to beckettes in the past all of a sudden they seem to be held in high reguard for some reason? The cost explosion for slabbing a card is just stupid now. There's no way you can justify slabbing a card costing more then 50 dollars. No way.
Yes to all of this. I don’t get it either. But they seem to have the market. For better or worse
@@SnipeCityCards When Beckette started doing the Vintage service that graded cards on a different scale that pretty much was the end for me. I don't put value on graded cards any longer and haven't in a long time. Considering the huge amounts they charge people they should have a grading academy where people learn to grade cards in the same fashion as people learn to grade gem stones. And only certified grading experts who have been trained to this exacting standard should be allowed to look at cards. It shouldn't be Tommy who worked in the mail room last month and got a promotion deciding if your card is worth 10 dollars or 10,000 dollars.
I’d love for someone to make a documentary on this. Really show how it actually goes down. The SGC behind the scenes video kinda shows more than a handful of flaws. The company grew 10x in a few months from 10 employees to 100. And in the video there’s a bunch of teenage looking kids grading. Now I’m not saying just because they’re kids doesn’t mean they aren’t qualified as I’m sure some definitely are. But just mathematically if your company grows by 90 employees, and most come with little to no experience, quality control will suffer. I give it 5 year until Netflix or whatever their replacement has a documentary titled “The Rise and Fall Of Sports Cards... AGAIN”
psa has drastically damaged their reputation and the door is wide open for 1, 2 or 3 of the other companies to really step up. I am really liking csg but they have to get their shit together quick and not fall so far behind....there bulk orders are already at like 9-10 month turnaround time. and its only been what? 6 -8 weeks that psa has been closed...they will be absolutely buried and not be able to get out if they dont find a way to up their capacity...but i like there grading. I think it is pretty consistent from what i have seen. PSA is absolute dog shit.
This is unfortunate. 8 to 9 is a big jump.
PSA gives you grades you paid for. If you declare psa 10 value and pay the service fee, Boom you got a PSA10 unless card has obvious visible damage.
This was Chris’ theory and the major reason we decided to send these cards back. He put the max declared value at $5000 this time. Didn’t get a 10. But it did get a higher grade than last time when he had it at $1000
Definitely inconsistencies in these grading companies. Most likely due to the fact that they’re all hiring new employees to keep up with the volume of cards being graded. The employees are probably rushed through the training process #snipecitycardsballot8
Yea. That’s my take as well. I also think they do a fair bit of pop control
That Wayne Gretzky PSA 10 that sold for 3.75 million most likely had a friend on the inside or has given them so much business that's the grade they got. This is why I don't trust PSA they have become a joke.
Check out the video that psa and pwcc scam. There’s a lot of 10’s out there that shouldn’t be a 10, maybe 8’s if that.
you do know what the definition of insane is....doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome....card grading is insane and for those that buy them....why?
Oh I’m with you. It definitely is insane. Just wanted to get some interesting content on the channel for others to see.
The grading system should be done by a computer that uses lasers for centering and everything else 😂
That's what Hybrid Grading (HGA) claims to do, but they've never shown the public their process so who knows, plus theyre really REALLY opposed to giving out 10s.
I just started the hobby and have thought maybe getting some cards graded not sure why graded cards have more profit then not especially when as this video shows you can just keep sending in cards that got an 8 and then magically get a 9 the grading companies can’t be trusted
Yeah. It’s a bit of a mess
Psa is a joke.
Yes, for us Canadians, MNT is the way to go! I sent some stuff to MNT about a month ago.
Prices are reasonable and they seem to be fair. I do like their slabs.
@@TopShelfPullz Mint is way to hard on grading cards not all card are under a 10 yet from their standards 1 in a 1000 might get a 10.
#snipecitycardsballot8 Yeah this has been my worry since day one. Wtg man,more people have to know about this!
Thanks man! As always!
Yep can’t trust no one even for a positive fun hobby like this is supposed to be
I think we’re far passed the fun hobby thing. Kids can’t even afford this hobby
@@SnipeCityCards as a kid i can confirm this
Gotta have deep pockets for cards these days
@@SnipeCityCards and kids my age just don't, if I save up for months I can usually afford one but then the hits I get aren't even worth half the box so I lose a ton of money :(
Use Mnt bro, Mnt is the future of collectable cards
We use MNT a lot since we’re from Toronto. They still have a bit to go as they’ve only been around for a handful of years, but they’re pretty awesome!
I'll watch before I "click and subscribe" if that's ok with you.
Thanks for another great video. The grading needs to be done by machine instead of human to take away discretions. #snipecityballot8
Agreed
Either way you slice it, McDavid YG was way overproduced and the prices simply don't reflect this, yet. It's the main reason why I don't have one and went after his PSA 10 FWA instead. Luckily found one for $4500 at the start of covid. No way I'm paying what his graded 10 YGs are priced at.
That’s awesome. Well done. Yeah I think the majority of the hobby is going to be moving toward numbered stuff due to a fear of mass production on the non numbered stuff
@@SnipeCityCards Completely agree. Even though it was 7 years ago, I still compare his YG to Zions Prizm RC.
It’s time for them to be AI assisted, grading should not be subjective like that. With machine learning there will be some true negative and false positive but thats going to be at a lower rate than it is today.
Also i don’t get why you would pay more to grade for a card depending of the value. It’s the same service in the end. They don’t take risk on the raw card.
@@ieatunicornwithpeanutbutte6017 yes I never understood why you have to pay more for an expensive card, they are doing same crappie spin the wheel grading for every card. That's messed up they want a piece of the action.
@@ieatunicornwithpeanutbutte6017 PSA claims the cost difference in the service levels is due to the increase of return shipping insurance to cover the value of the card. I can see that being partly true but these grading prices are insane.
Partly true for sure. But they charge for return shipping. It’s definitely not all of that in the cost.
Never hold your cards by the edges like that. Ever. Probably why your edge on the right side is fucked up
Love the rant!! #snipecitycardsballot8
That is very disappointing. How can u trust a company that can't keep constant grades
I’ll never buy graded cards or would I send cards to be graded. Can’t trust these grading companies.
I felt the same, but when my raw card sold for $1800 and the same card graded as a PSA 9 (which is about what I would expect my card to get) sold for $9000, you have to think again.
I don't play the grading game.... because it's a game.
Never gonna use psa thanks for this video much rather mnt or BGS after watching this, terrible!
Gtretzky wasnt true.
They lied on it to bring back the interest for grading cards as grading demand was going down big time.
Never heard of any guy who bought or would pay 3M for a piece of cardboard.
Most cards collectors are often dumbasses and rejects in the first place.
Thinking psa would give you back a so called second Gretzky player calibre,,,and give it a 10??
I mean c'mon.
They would never give you a gift of 4 or 5000$ just by giving your card a 10.
A 2008 card should be a 9.5-10 anyway no matter what.
Dude your out of you mind handling that card like that. Why in the world would u take it out of bgs 9.5
Amongst other things, we tried creating all sorts of grading content to help educate others with some more detail on how it works.
That is scandalous.
It's been my number one worry since the beginning. It should all be done with software,there would be no issue then.
Yea. It’s definitely an issue for sure.
$600 to "grade" two cards plus shipping and tax what a joke. Why even waste your time and money the only grading you need is your own eyeballs people forget that scam. I wonder if the graders grade their own cards? Lmao
The last past hahaha. Well said!
Doesn’t look like the same card.
It’s most definitely 100% the same card. We Never had a McDavid Young Guns other than this one. And a YGC that is in an MNT 9.5 that we got early on. This 100% legit went from a BGS 9.5 to a PSA 8 and then a PSA 9 all in a few weeks
Typical PSA
I think psa got it right this time, not the 8 though. It can never be a perfect system.
Never grade cards waste of money
PSA sucks
At least this grading actually made sense this time. #snipecitycardsballot8
I've never sent cards in for grading...and now I'm glad I haven't. Inconsistencies everywhere... #snipecitycardsballot8
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I'm not sure how your can't get infuriated with this #snipecitycardsballot8
there are tons of problems with that wayne gretzky, white corner/edge chips, the black lines have places the ink didnt fill in correctly (see 1:10). the color is not as crisp as a psa 9+.
now, when you compare to the wayne gretzky psa 10, honestly that card doen't look quite right compared to the actual PSA card: www.psacard.com/cert/50008975
I wonder if fraud is involved.
Wow. Ok. So this is very interesting... I hadn’t seen this before. Looks completely different!
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