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Adding Insulation To Overwintered Nucs
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- It's time to get the last few of my nucs insulated to overwinter. Adding foam insulation helps retain some of the heat the bee make while in cluster. An upper entrance is equally as important in helping to control condensation.
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Good information, Jason. I am in Australia, I am a beekeeper, have been for 7 years now. I follow you and about 10 other beekeepers in America, Canada and Great Britain. Your information is invaluable, however our seasons are back to front. I just have to experiment with the knowledge I gain. I win some and lose some, but it is still a good learning curve.
Glad the videos are helpful. Wish there was a way to make the videos work for every area but like you said it takes running some experiments. Best of luck!!
Thanks for sharing Jason. We all appreciate that.
Here in Northwestern Massachusetts I've had my hives insulated since the last of October when the weather started turning. Thanks for sharing.
Put a few small pieces of 2x4 under that nuc with the tele cover, this way the nuc will be sitting higher than the other nucs then you can push them together
Brilliant idea! Thanks!
This is my first winter where all of my hives were configured in a single brood-box. Initially, I was kind of nervous (I am in central Maine), but after checking on them this weekend, I wish I had gone this route years ago. That being said, adding some insulation is a definite plus. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Jason, have a great New Year to you and your family. God Bless. Tim
Although we live in Florida- we always enjoy your work. Well done Jason
I haven't put on all my feeder shims either. Been really warm here in Richmond. Most nights have been above freezing so far. That foam boad cuts real nice on a table saw with an 80 tooth blade. I insulate the inside of the tele tops and it stays in year round.
The weather has been crazy for sure! Nice to know about table saw and insulation. Thanks!
yep...pretty much what I do as well. I use a little thicker foam for more R-value...gets real cold here in WI...don't want that condensation....I also use reflectix as an inner cover...works fantastic.....keeps burr comb off the lid and adds a bit of insulation in summer.
Telescopic covers are a love hate relationship. LOL. I prefer the telescopic as it helps protects the edge where the feeder rim and insulation board sits. Rain can blow in around the edges but the telescopic lids held shed by giving an eave effect like a house roof. Like you said, they create problems at times too. I don't over winter near as many NUCs as you do, only 7 for us this winter. Definitely use an insulation board.
nice content as usual, Thanks Jason!
just starting my apiary and I have a youtube channel as well, any tips would be appreciated.
My tips would be good thumbnails, good descriptions with keywords, and tags based on what your video is about. As far as description Google will read the first 150 characters of description so make sure to use your key words first. Best of luck!
I use double bubble on 3 sides and then a piece on top on all my hives along with a box that has a burlap hammock full of wood chips and a feeder shim. Thanks for sharing ! Anxious for spring. I have some queen orders for some mite maulers, Minnesota Hygienic to go with my Italian hybrid, Russians, Weaver, Kono Hawaiians and my Barnyard Queen. So far this winter my girls are doing pretty good. My hybrid Italian is totally rockin it out of the park.
Personally the only reason I added the insulation to the top was to help with condensation. I am not worried about the bees getting chilled, bees can handle cold just not getting wet,
I'm glad to hear you have new genetics to add to your apiary. It's always fun to add something new. Though I have heard ankle biters are mean so be prepared!
@@JCsBees That is what I was told about the Russians. My Russians are sweethearts compared to my Kono Hawaiians. And really my Hawaiians are not aggressive, they just don't like smoke I have learned. they let me know. So now when I smoke them I use very little and they are fine or I will use sugar h2o with pro health. Of course as you know this could change. On a different note: my Russians have closed up the upper vent hole and as always thank you for your time energy and money you put out to educate us new bees.
I won't have docile bees again way too many problems lol. My best bees are naturally defensive. They can handle pests and the weather so much better and are top honey producers. Haven't had any robbing or winter loses since we switched. We suit up triple layer and like you found they do not like smoke we use 1TB of sugar to quart spray bottle and mist top of frames (Only in warm weather) they stop looking at us and start chowing down. We do use smoke after we leave to get them off of use but not in hives.
@@JCsBees thanks for that information. My main purpose of having a variety of vsh / hygenic stock is to help the girls in my area and of course to minimize the destruction of verroa. But I do checks and treat if necessary regardless of genetics.
Like Todd Achten, my insulated inner cover also includes a bottom layer of moisture board. Why? I make up no-cook sugar bricks and slide them into the shim as needed. (BTW, my shims have a 3/4 hole drilled in their fronts but that is such a small area and I do not feel it is sufficient to vent all the moisture coming off the bees.) I sometimes use the mountain camp method if emergency, but normally having a 1 1/2# brick or two of candy made up to my specifications is easier and more effective that loose sugar. (Or at least I think it is.) But I do not always have sugar in the shim. Sometimes the shim is on and no feeding is needed, thus no sugar is put in the shim. Sometimes the feed runs out and the shim is left empty of sugar. My sugar bricks do not take up much surface area, and are hard - so I wonder just how much moisture they could absorb, anyway-Thus the moisture board attached to the bottom of the solid foam insulation. If you look at the underside of every one of my twenty 10-frame insulated inner covers, the moisture board shows moisture absorption stain around the perimeter (where is should be because that is where the rising warm, moist air column meets the chilly sides of the hive) but the entire center of the moisture board is 100% moisture-stain free (as it should be because the bottom of the moisture board is nice and warm - with a temperature nearly the same as right above the cluster, so no condensation in the middle.) My moisture boards remove the fear of excess moisture accumulating above the bees' heads. Having said that, I think we get too paranoid about winter moisture build-up. Bees need moisture during the winter just as we do. They might get a little from the honey they consume, but other than that, they should have moisture condensing on the capped honey and on the sides of the hive. They need it. Some of my hives have water on the entrance board. No, not rain. Moisture dripping down the sides and accumulating at the entrance. That does not bother me, because I know they need moisture - just not dripping down on their heads!
Your 100% correct, they do need moisture. Did you know bees can't consume dry sugar without having some moisture of some sort to add to it? It's a fact. I often feed weak colonies dry sugar just so there is no robbing in the summer, works very well.
Thanks for explaining why you used the moisture board, that will be helpful for many people.
That’s how I do all of mine. I also add a moisture board (homosote) from Menards under the insulation boards cut to the same size.
Nice! Why add the moisture board? Is moisture not finding it's way to upper entrance? Or not collecting in dry sugar?
Jason Chrisman just as an added absorption protection for those Ohio crazy wet weather days that the mountain camp doesn’t absorb. This year I added a small screened vent in my shims that have telescoping covers on the opposite end of the upper entrance.
I was wondering at first why you scraped out all the dead bees, but then you explained.... you have a 10" x 4" open screen hole in the bottom of your box during winter.
Yes! I always overwinter with screened bottoms. The air flow helps condensation escape.
Jason I've got a nuc in one of those corrugated plastic EZ Nuc boxes. Is there any chance of the nuc surviving winter in that or should I move them to a wooden one before winter?
@Hans Freundwich I would for sure transfer them to a wood box. The "R" value of the plastic box is too low.
Great insight. Always double? Or does single work just as well?
Quick question Jason, how tall are you spacer frames 3"? Your videos are great, thanks!!
I am thinking they are only 2.5" tall but 3" wouldn't hurt anything. Glad you like the videos! Best of luck preparing for winter.
Happy New year's Jason. And thanks for the great videos !!. This year I put on burlap to help with moisture. So far so good. Also do you have any problems with water getting under you covers ?
Thanks. Happy New Year to you as well! rain can get around my covers if the covers are centered correctly. On thing a person could do is cut a sheet of foam insulation to lay over the top of several nucs at once then set some weight on it so it doesn't blow away.
no sawdust on top for moister? I split my tops in 3. 2 sawdust center sugar
Nope! I don't use quilting boxes, I used too but not anymore.
I met a guy that drills 1 inch screened holes in the middle of his box's (both sides)for moister. Seems crazy to me. He is in Illinois and says he does not lose any bees ever. I use the sawdust but will try the top insulation with holes this year. Last year was had on the bees. Check this guy out. czcams.com/video/VV29kfttfVM/video.html&lc=UgwXcvXVt37bwXwhFmR4AaABAg.9QOL8qvSAn39QPHfThfjec
Will the bees reorientate on a cleansing flight, after you push the boxes together? Many will have been moved more than 3 feet.
I saw where one beekeeper had put all the nucs in his yard in one large cube.
You can move them without any issue while it's cold for a period of days. I wouldn't move them though if you only have 1 cold day. They need to bee forced to stay in for a few days then they will reorientate.
That can't be winter , where is the snow? Oh you southern beekeepers HaHa
Lol 😂
Southern beekeeper? Where are you located Canada? I am in central Ohio. The reason for no snow or super cold weather has nothing to do with global warming, at least that's what our presidents says. lol
@@JCsBees Central Wisconsin with Knee deep snow had my first bees when everyone was saying the ice age is coming. lol I'm far enough north that my bees haven't had flying weather since october.
jason great info. having reduce size of a few boxes as i have lost 2 hives this winter, not sure to what. lots of dead bees maybe 25 degree nites and not close together.
Kevin Jackson mites
@@larrytornetta9764
not sure good possiblity been checking them. been cold here in foothills of California. may need to insulate from wind
Did you have extra boxes added that you didn't need to have on? Were the dead bees wet? Did you see any mold or mildew? Did you treat for mites and when?
@@JCsBees mold in one box not the other one. had strong wind during rain storm 2 weeks ago
@@kevinjackson1840 mites and or stores of food???
Thanks, Jason! What is the purpose of the wood in the center of your spacer?
It's just for support no other reason.
Good video. I have a suggestion for you to do a video about how you plan your videos for youtube.
no uper vent why let the heat out vent in in the bottom
I am letting the moisture out. Beside the cluster is where the heat is.
Maybe slide some of that insulation board between 804 and the other nucs to compensate for the space created with the telescoping lid??
Great idea! Thanks for sharing the tip.
Jason, do you lift the backside of your nucs? I put a 3/4 " board in the back so moisture will roll forward. Also I put my insulation boards on top of my top. I use advantec and only cut a board to cover the nuc one flat board. Advantec don't warp. West of you on the Oklahoma Kansas line.
Wish you a great beekeeping season this year. Love your videos
Yes, I do lift the backside of all my colonies. That's a good habit to have. It teaches you what a heavy colony feels like compared to a starving colony.
Thanks! I hope your season is great too!
I insulated my single hive at the beginning of December
Did you get your BroodMinder installed?
@@JCsBees, I received it but no I haven't put it in yet because it has been to cool and with the holidays and my work. I know I shouldn't make excuses and just do it. I promise to do it as soon as the weather allows me to.
When you do add it, you don;t have to dis-assemble hive just lift boxes apart far enough to slide sensors in and call it done. Make sure you activate it first though.
@@JCsBees, I duct-taped the insulation to the lid. 1st timers blooper
Hit the hive with oxalic acid couple days ago, hopefully should take the my load to zero for spring build up. Girls are eating more sugar than I would have thought maybe 3 lb so far
If the weather is like it has been here (warmer than it should be) then they will consume more food than normal. Glad to hear you did a treatment!
My pro vap from Johno on bee source should be here by the weekend!
You better stick the hives together so that they’re insulated from the sides too.
No reason to do that. IF they are healthy they'll be fine.