Trying out the WHIRLWIND Bowling Swing (INSANE SCORES)

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  • @warheadsk8boards
    @warheadsk8boards Před 6 měsíci +94

    I'm honestly not surprised that you've finally found a form that works with you. You've been searching for the past year to find something to elevate your game and I think this arm motion works perfectly. The last half of your swing is correcting to make it perfect. it keeps your backswing low and more controlled all around.

    • @SkateClipsAndTips
      @SkateClipsAndTips Před 6 měsíci +8

      I agree, he needs to stick to this style

    • @shadowthagreat
      @shadowthagreat Před 6 měsíci +11

      @@SkateClipsAndTipsyup! Everyone bowls differently and if this is something that works and feels comfortable for him, he should definitely go for it..

    • @AudunWangen
      @AudunWangen Před 6 měsíci +3

      Never stop experimenting 🤩. I also think it's the swing. Personally I have no control of neither the direction nor the follow through with a big swing.
      It seems kind of counter-intuitive the direction should be off, because I had a very straight and smooth swing according to my coach and teammates. I mean, logic tells me the ball should go in the direction of the swing, right?
      Next I would love to see him throw some balls down the lane with no swing at all. Just start with the ball hanging, and let the momentum of your feet bring the ball behind you slightly. Possibly best with a 3 or 4 step approach. I moved from that to holding the ball very low on a 5 step approach to reduce my swing. It helped a lot on my accuracy.
      I'm definitely going to try this 😊

  • @ForrestKritzer
    @ForrestKritzer Před 6 měsíci +53

    Bro instantly turned into EJ Tackett

    • @cllxc
      @cllxc Před 6 měsíci +6

      He got ideas from the best player of 2023

    • @ignfoxx1120
      @ignfoxx1120 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Ay I found you on akinator by the way

  • @TheBlaikeHobson
    @TheBlaikeHobson Před 6 měsíci +18

    i think this is the smoothest i’ve ever seen your hand at the bottom. Some shots not so much but your getting used to it, just an incredible form and i think it fits you perfectly. with just a little more practice with it and i think your going to be really happy with it.

  • @WAMFIGURES971
    @WAMFIGURES971 Před 6 měsíci +35

    290 with that arm swing, that’s INSANE

  • @chronichappy
    @chronichappy Před 6 měsíci +41

    This is actually a better swing for you instead of your normal swing. Your form looks a lot better here.

    • @220avg
      @220avg  Před 6 měsíci +23

      Agree 😅

    • @SkateClipsAndTips
      @SkateClipsAndTips Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@220avg definitely stick with this style!

    • @nickmc7039
      @nickmc7039 Před 6 měsíci

      @@220avg I was wondering would a billiards strip bowling ball make it easier to make 7 or a 10 pin ? Have it drilled to where when you shoot it the strip lines up with the pin you are facing. Spare hack !? I would love to see a video on this

  • @deadpolymers3416
    @deadpolymers3416 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Ron Williams was my PSO for a lot of years. Great guy. He sold his shop to Del & Carolyn Ballard 5 or 6 years ago.

  • @ndfnd424
    @ndfnd424 Před 6 měsíci +8

    it's actually helping you keep your backswing under control, that's why it seems so good to you

  • @tbs7163
    @tbs7163 Před 6 měsíci +40

    It's a version of a figure 8 swing. Wes Malott is the "best" I know of using that type of swing. Wes does it to help clear his hip on the backswing. I've done it for years and yes it helps me "get up the backend of the ball better". I just have to remember to keep my foot speed on the approach...slow. Good luck and looking forward to the next video.

    • @bengoose2031
      @bengoose2031 Před 6 měsíci

      Walter Ray and EJ Tackett also use the figure 8

    • @gigeo48
      @gigeo48 Před 5 měsíci

      nope, tom Smallwood

  • @jamiehickey4808
    @jamiehickey4808 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Kudos dude honestly. Been watching your vids for a while and felt your struggle looking for a consistent swing.
    It's fantastic being able to see you find something that seems to be working wonders. It's hella motivating to make me work on my own. Only up from here, let's go 💪💪

  • @JamesNpersonal
    @JamesNpersonal Před 6 měsíci +8

    Great video and it looked really comfortable for you. Reminds me of Jim Furyk in golf. He has had a really successful career. 1993 the balls didn’t help your slight misses like they do now so I can see this being great for you. I took a ball and was trying it myself at home and I can definitely see how, once practiced, it feels really natural on the downswing. Nice job!

  • @megaedge2762
    @megaedge2762 Před 6 měsíci +1

    3:56 this is my favorite aspect of bowling. So many unorthodox styles have been used over the years, but it doesn’t matter. If you are able to get consistent with it, then use it. It’s perfectly fine, and it’s really inspiring to see all the different styles people choose in bowling. There isn’t a single best one. Just choose which style fits you the most.

  • @squidly2112
    @squidly2112 Před 6 měsíci +4

    haha .. that was AWESOME Michael !! . I like your form with that swing. Your first game was unreal! .. fantastic bowling. I like that you explore different things like this. I believe it is a good way to improve your overall bowling. You really understand how balls and lanes react and all of the other little things that go with that. Great stuff Michael !!

  • @willjames6437
    @willjames6437 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I think this might be you. It is like a controlled figure eight swing. Your release and ball roll looks phenomenal. Also your body alignment looks solid. The pin action also looked damn good. You should really give this a try.

  • @DuffyJ1111
    @DuffyJ1111 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I've only had 30 clean frames like 5 times in my life. My greatest bowling moment is hands down when I threw a No Tap 900. Still chasing my 1st 300. Thanks for the video I might have to try that swing out myself.

  • @MinusLifeTV
    @MinusLifeTV Před 6 měsíci +5

    I may have to try this! It looks ridiculous on the backswing but then the control on the downswing is perfect. I'd say keep the swing especially if it feels comfortable to you man 😄

  • @rrajan123
    @rrajan123 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Great job! I remember watching Ron Williams bowl when I was in college so thanks 220 avg for making me feel old too! Can we see you try to do Amleto Monacelli’s swing next?

  • @stefaniesimon6725
    @stefaniesimon6725 Před 6 měsíci +31

    Yay it’s keeping your backswing low!!! Adopt this style!!! Do it!

    • @220avg
      @220avg  Před 6 měsíci +18

      I know I think I like it 😂

    • @steveboone1498
      @steveboone1498 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@220avg You should watch videos on the late Don Carter. He also had a unique bowling swing that was very hard to replicate.

  • @minecraftmax9503
    @minecraftmax9503 Před 6 měsíci +7

    290?!!!? Dawg! You need to switch

  • @gusreyes5447
    @gusreyes5447 Před měsícem

    I like that style of you not pushing the ball from the get go. Just the ball staying slightly lower than the waist with just one hand. Very simple and effective. I will try it.💪🏻

  • @Bowlstan
    @Bowlstan Před 6 měsíci +1

    Agreed that you look so much smoother and are in a really good position at release.

  • @colleenmiller864
    @colleenmiller864 Před 6 měsíci

    That form really works for you! Keep up the great work!

  • @mikes5918
    @mikes5918 Před 6 měsíci

    Agree with all the comments on the form and especially the backswing height is beautiful. looked soooooo smooth

  • @UhKimboze
    @UhKimboze Před 6 měsíci

    This new form I love watching it. Very fun to watch!

  • @jenbishop9238
    @jenbishop9238 Před 6 měsíci

    Awesome set! Starting my 3rd year of bowling, and I've yet to manage ONE clean game! Fun to watch :)

  • @moreepicrandomness9508
    @moreepicrandomness9508 Před 6 měsíci

    Honestly when you're first trying to fix your swing it actually reminds me of your old swing a little bit cuz you used to swing your arm out a little ways and then come back in to get the rotation you need. It looks similar and I do think it works really well for you

  • @BANONEGuitar
    @BANONEGuitar Před 6 měsíci +5

    Thanks for making me feel super old 220. There are those of us who remember Ron Williams. Lol.

    • @220avg
      @220avg  Před 6 měsíci +4

      I wonder if Ron will see this video 😂

    • @BANONEGuitar
      @BANONEGuitar Před 6 měsíci

      @@220avg Haha. He may. Somebody may point him to it. I’m sure it’s been a while since he’s seen his name out there. But he had a pretty good run, he won titles.

  • @Slinginghotlead007
    @Slinginghotlead007 Před 6 měsíci

    Gotta agree with a lot of people here. This in some weird way is getting your down swing into the right arm slot or position so that you hand gets into a better spot at the bottom and through the release. Very cool. Thank you for taking us with you in your journey. It helps us to see that we can all make changes to our bowling and shouldn’t be afraid to try different things. 🙌

    • @coopergates9680
      @coopergates9680 Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's a way to get your hand inside the ball without twisting your wrist as much

  • @tallcatshortdog
    @tallcatshortdog Před 6 měsíci +3

    Looks good, seems like something to stick with based on ball roll/motion.

  • @TraumaER
    @TraumaER Před 6 měsíci +1

    For some odd reason, the second half of your swing is finally perfect. What can’t be explained is why. 😂

  • @jameshman5057
    @jameshman5057 Před 6 měsíci

    Nice,best bowling channel out there. Very entertaining.

  • @damarapoledna3636
    @damarapoledna3636 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Many years ago, Ron was giving me a bowling lesson. I asked him, "truthfully, what would you change about my game". Ron answered "truthfully?" Then he gives the flushing the toilet motion😶

  • @KennethPettay
    @KennethPettay Před 3 měsíci

    Your the second person I've seen be able to throw a good hook with your hand on the back outside of the ball. All the pros can get their hand way on the inside and I try that but my tricep and lat collide which doesn't allow my arm to get on the inside of the ball and makes my hand always end up on the back outside of the ball. I've been bowling stroker, or the suitcase throw for 25 years and 170s average and I've been experimenting with throws lately to improve my game and you have some great new insights

  • @ericpadilla2454
    @ericpadilla2454 Před 6 měsíci

    your release and finish seems consistent with this form. I'd say keep at it. dont matter what u look like, only what the results are!

  • @nicholas104
    @nicholas104 Před 6 měsíci

    I can't wait to see what video you make next about this.

  • @kyleasbury8438
    @kyleasbury8438 Před 6 měsíci

    220 avg bowler is back! 🎉 form looks great!

  • @schellentertainment
    @schellentertainment Před 6 měsíci

    It’s a great practice tool since it’s exaggerating your back swing to help keep your elbow tucked on the way down. If you stick with your normal form I suggest getting your push away started to the left so you can keep the same concept like the figure 8 swing.

  • @jayare7750
    @jayare7750 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Your whirlwind channel can be called 238 Average Bowler

  • @berniesmith9653
    @berniesmith9653 Před 6 měsíci

    Looked really good for you practice makes perfect good luck my friend

  • @Nateso_blessed
    @Nateso_blessed Před 6 měsíci

    Great video. The music made the video more enjoyable than it would normally be.

  • @bhcamaro2002
    @bhcamaro2002 Před 6 měsíci

    Nice to see you doing well! 👍

  • @BowlingNDrums
    @BowlingNDrums Před 6 měsíci

    I might have to try this too. Going to practice tonight

  • @emerygriffin6991
    @emerygriffin6991 Před 6 měsíci

    How cool… bet you will perfect that swing. Nothing about a swing is awkward if you are comfortable and it works.. Bravo!.

  • @sololegit
    @sololegit Před 6 měsíci +2

    Shots 11 and 12 you can see muscle memory coming back in. I like it though, at first it was really helping your timing/hitch at the top of backswing.

  • @jaegerbombgaming6635
    @jaegerbombgaming6635 Před 6 měsíci

    REALLY looks like it's keeping you back swing under control (forced to keep it short) but more importantly, it looks like it helping you sync up your timing.
    But I'm biased bc my back swing also only goes up that high.

  • @paulawhite8488
    @paulawhite8488 Před 3 měsíci

    You’re not thinking of your sky high swing so it feels and looks so much better. Good job love your content❤

  • @Safetyfirst-gz7qj
    @Safetyfirst-gz7qj Před 5 měsíci

    That’s crazy 290 that might be the highest most consistent game I’ve saw on this channel

  • @backtoschool9760
    @backtoschool9760 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hey I have a thought on your form here. So your normal swing is very high, I think it impacts your ability to smoothly release the ball.
    Here, because of the whirlwind you were not able to bring it so high. And it actually let you get under the ball and come through it more.
    So maybe try an episode where you dont swing your ball as high? It might help your game and could be a fun experiment regardless.

  • @mikeolkonen9740
    @mikeolkonen9740 Před 2 měsíci

    Do a video with one of my favorite bowling balls back in the day. It was a Sunstorm and it was a yellow emoji color. It always felt like it hit kind of soft in the pocket but would totally obliterate the pins for strikes with messengers galore...you know the kind of strikes that are great to show off when you like to showboat and run them out lol
    I bowled no thumb like Mike Miller back then.

  • @ricka.wetselphdbowler3526
    @ricka.wetselphdbowler3526 Před 6 měsíci

    For some reason it seems to help your timing, ball position during the downswing, and a more consistent release. It is insane. I would be interested to see how it would do on a sport pattern.

  • @bo3poptart260
    @bo3poptart260 Před 6 měsíci

    when u thought u were going to make a funny video of a interesting bowling style you saw but end up liking it and now most likely officially taking it for your own. Keep honing it and you'll become 240 average bowler

  • @rewop23us
    @rewop23us Před 6 měsíci

    Your touch and hand position at the bottom of the swing looks buttery smooth with this swing.

  • @shawncouch3863
    @shawncouch3863 Před 6 měsíci

    My boy Aaron in the building 😁 I miss delta bowl a lot of good ppl there

  • @justinpreston4152
    @justinpreston4152 Před 4 měsíci

    that was amazing and also still using the swing on the spares

  • @Baystream1991
    @Baystream1991 Před 6 měsíci +1

    that form is straight gas 😤

  • @leofarron6135
    @leofarron6135 Před 6 měsíci

    I think some portion of the swing is adding so much motion in the beginning reduces the amount of backswing. I always figured 80% of bowling was figuring out what swing is natural for your body's composition. Which is why there isn't a one-size-fits-all style. Or at least that's what I've told my students in the past. I usually said I can show you the fundamentals but it's on you to develop or find what will elevate your game.

  • @benjaminkriebel3569
    @benjaminkriebel3569 Před 6 měsíci

    I know you probably wont see this, but I noticed that you move the ball a ton when you're all the way back on your back swing. sometimes you wiggle it, sometimes it still, but it always impacts how you get around the ball at the bottom of your swing. i don't know if you're gripping the ball too hard during your backswing, but either way you should keep an eye on it

  • @allglorytogod12
    @allglorytogod12 Před 6 měsíci

    It seems like it makes the backswing longer (time wise) which helps sync things up better through the swing and release. Perhaps delaying your normal backswing by a half step or so could achieve the same results.

  • @crk140
    @crk140 Před 6 měsíci

    Never forget watching Ron Williams the first time, what a style

  • @michaelplum5362
    @michaelplum5362 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Slightly similar to Amleto Monacelli. This style keeps your finish much more square to the foul line. Your left foot is not finishing sideways to the foul line.

  • @BlackHeartedPanda
    @BlackHeartedPanda Před 5 měsíci

    Hi Mike, is there any reason you are not using your left hand to help hold the ball in your set up? I feel like that automatically weakens your overall potential energy and forces you to grab the ball considerably more throughout the approach.

  • @garranhein9660
    @garranhein9660 Před 6 měsíci +1

    How does the arm feel after..

  • @godis080plays6
    @godis080plays6 Před 6 měsíci

    Hey man what are your thoughts on a ten (10) rhino ball for beginners that curve? It does have some curve to it as well if i got it. I currently haveva 12 rhino with alittle curve or whatever its called but i actually think i cant through it ? So im thinking on getting maybe a pound or 2 lower

    • @220avg
      @220avg  Před 6 měsíci

      If you aren’t able to physically throw a ball because it’s too heavy for you I’d say definitely lower the weight

  • @bowlingxp8345
    @bowlingxp8345 Před 6 měsíci +1

    It's basically a cut down muscled 8 figure swing. I am a bit cautious...if something so old hasn't spread in 30 years...maybe it's not that good. Ron Williams also did it with a big bend of the elbow, you are doing it with no bend.

  • @mikekissinger8798
    @mikekissinger8798 Před 6 měsíci

    I watched this video and been using this for me and im hitting 220s with back up balls

  • @lo1bo2
    @lo1bo2 Před 6 měsíci

    I legitimately celebrated the SLOW strike on your first shot!

  • @btdubs03
    @btdubs03 Před 6 měsíci

    First shot in the second game was the exact hit I had for my 299 game in my high school match the other day😂

  • @robertl9863
    @robertl9863 Před 5 měsíci

    Hey Mike,
    Hey brother just wanted to let you know. I think its super cool you're messing with all these weird styles and I enjoy everything you're putting out. But just wanted to mention to you to please be careful with your elbow and arm health. I was messing around with Earl Anthony/Don Carter's excessive elbow bend after listening to Prather talking about incorporating more elbow bend for more revs. And I've now been suffering from bowler's elbow from hell for the last two-three months that just never goes away. You're a super in shape, yoked guy, so I'm sure your arm is probably strong enough to handle anything you throw at it. But just wanted to mention to this to you, so you don't go overboard too fast and risk injury. Love your videos, man and follow everything you do. 😇😎

  • @scottashley3906
    @scottashley3906 Před 6 měsíci

    Hey Mike! Although that arm swing is unorthodoxed, On the downswing, your arm and hand is in the slot like it supposed to be looking From the back

  • @boicrazee
    @boicrazee Před 6 měsíci

    I bowled against him in a tourney. I thought wow what an odd form. But he nailed the pocket most of the time. I know youre trying to mimic him but honestly its not very close. His style is 1 of a kind.

  • @steadfasttinsoldier5228
    @steadfasttinsoldier5228 Před 6 měsíci

    Looks a little like what I started doing a couple weeks ago. Keeping my wrist cupped thru the entire swing makes me do things naturally that I've been trying to do for years. I nearly bowled 3 200 games in a row, I've never done that before.

  • @playdiscgolf1546
    @playdiscgolf1546 Před 6 měsíci

    The King of the Hill!!!

  • @maxxhardcorebowler
    @maxxhardcorebowler Před 6 měsíci

    your "normal" form had a really high and muscled backswing, doing this motion forced your swing to get lower and your release looked smoother. keep it up man

  • @wingracer1614
    @wingracer1614 Před 6 měsíci

    I think it was working for you just for how much more relaxed your swing looked. You weren't muscling it as much or getting as crazy high in the backswing.

  • @Ragefire91
    @Ragefire91 Před 6 měsíci

    Man you got robbed on that first frame =(. Keep up the awesome content love this!!!

  • @BasketBowlers
    @BasketBowlers Před 6 měsíci

    There’s a guy that does a variation of the whirlwind, but he walks up to the line, COMPLETELY STOPS, and basically does a no step drill throw.

  • @robertjenkins2578
    @robertjenkins2578 Před 6 měsíci

    Want to try another unusual swing. Do the Johnny King swing from behind the back. It’s easy to find Johnny King on Championship Bowling shows on CZcams. Johnny sort of tucks the ball behind his back, and then sweeps it around.

  • @riktigaoakis
    @riktigaoakis Před 6 měsíci

    The difference is that with his swing you are keeoing your elbow tucked in instead of outside your body. Looks great! 🎉

  • @ScottyThompson-lt7wl
    @ScottyThompson-lt7wl Před 6 měsíci +1

    Cool video talk tech bowling open bowling Michael

  • @chadwhedbee5581
    @chadwhedbee5581 Před 6 měsíci

    Kinda got caught up in that wild type of swing, I kinda like it, but I meant to mention that it seems like you might be bowling a bit better with that style and if you refine and polish it up a bit, I think you could be in the 800 series club

  • @user-hp5qv9uy7g
    @user-hp5qv9uy7g Před 6 měsíci

    Hi 220! It is Jan 29. Check out Brad Miller’s vid from the practice round in Indy? There was a fellow there with a whirlwind swing. Wondered if you had seen that vid. I couldn’t read the name on the jersey
    Good luck with the change. I enjoy your content. Particularly the collabs with Kritser.

    • @watchtheherdgo
      @watchtheherdgo Před 6 měsíci

      I didnt see the video but probably the one that got arrested the other day

  • @Sancho5150
    @Sancho5150 Před 6 měsíci

    If your doing different styles. You should try that spinner style or helicopter spin that I see being done overseas

  • @racingaerials4493
    @racingaerials4493 Před 6 měsíci +2

    If Tim Cagle taught me anything, there's no correct way to bowl. If it works for you, that's how you're meant to do it! 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @rogercarlson2330
    @rogercarlson2330 Před 6 měsíci

    way more control. i love this .

  • @chadwhedbee5581
    @chadwhedbee5581 Před 6 měsíci

    That gutter shot, look where your slide foot is pointing, then rewind and look at the first couple shots, slide foot was great.

  • @marcmaz21
    @marcmaz21 Před 6 měsíci

    You look much smoother and more comfortable with this style. Plus your confidence is better. You need to bowl against Forrest with this style. I would say don’t tell him but he’s already seen the video. 😅

  • @daemontano3523
    @daemontano3523 Před 6 měsíci

    Good editing. Love the fart noises, they are *Chef Kiss*

  • @kylerose5981
    @kylerose5981 Před 6 měsíci

    Have you ever watched Brandon Novak? He bowls alot around here in Cincinnati and bowled in the World Series of Bowling on tv. He does the same concept I'd go watch him

  • @noahwhipkey6262
    @noahwhipkey6262 Před 6 měsíci

    oh my god its like you learned to bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!! congrats :)

  • @christofferekblad9045
    @christofferekblad9045 Před 6 měsíci

    One thong I noticed is that your backswing is mush lower than before. That’s perhaps one thing that makes it better than before 🎉

  • @BigSkyBowler
    @BigSkyBowler Před 5 měsíci

    I assume you've seen videos of the top one-handed bowler in the world right now, EJ Tackett? He is the most efficient one-hander I've ever seen and uses a figure 8 swing, out to in.

  • @ceciltuttle743
    @ceciltuttle743 Před 6 měsíci

    That’s a pretty studly score, was it on a sport shot bc that would be even more badass? Also the ball motion looks really really nice

  • @Waiting2inhale
    @Waiting2inhale Před 6 měsíci

    You gotta keep that index finger pointing to the floor before releasing if you look your pointing yours towards the gutter if you get you index pointing to the ground it keeps your hand behind the ball much better !

  • @BuzzsawBrent
    @BuzzsawBrent Před 6 měsíci

    Keep it! Keep it!

  • @SkateClipsAndTips
    @SkateClipsAndTips Před 6 měsíci +2

    I think you've finally fixed your back swing issue with this style, stick with it! Don't change after these results. It is obviously your style!

  • @brettgroves8910
    @brettgroves8910 Před 6 měsíci

    honestly bro after watching you bowl for what.... 15+ years this actually looks like your best form....

    • @220avg
      @220avg  Před 6 měsíci

      For real 🤣

  • @hoannguyen2443
    @hoannguyen2443 Před 6 měsíci

    This works for you because it keep theball close to your ankle at the point of release, which give good leverage and accurate.. I really think this works for you..

  • @enigmazero8624
    @enigmazero8624 Před 6 měsíci

    If this becomes a series, there was a lefty who made a couple shows in 1995 with an absurd setup position named Ken McNeeley. Look him up if you’re interested.

  • @peterthebowler
    @peterthebowler Před 6 měsíci

    Looks good on you.

  • @Bokeyjr
    @Bokeyjr Před 6 měsíci

    That's fits you perfectly my guy stick to that and you'll do very well

  • @davidaronson9475
    @davidaronson9475 Před 6 měsíci

    You been trying to get the top of your backswing to be somewhere inside the bowling alley instead of at the north pole. This gets it to where it is supposed to be, somewhere in line with your right shoulder. So it should work.