Pin Up vs Pin Down and How to Use Them! | Ballsplanations Ep.7

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Komentáře • 143

  • @cowleysmobilewelding
    @cowleysmobilewelding Před 2 měsíci +25

    I bowled league and tournaments 30 years ago. I just got back into it this year. Crazy how much has changed

    • @cwagner4704
      @cwagner4704 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Same here my friend , just the amount of information and instruction that’s available now as opposed to back then is staggering . My best resource for instruction back then was Bo Burton’s tips on the PBA championships every Saturday

  • @TheShackGuy
    @TheShackGuy Před 2 měsíci +5

    And now I know WHY I prefer pin down drills. Another stellar video Mikey, please keep them coming!

  • @user-xe4hc6hc7s
    @user-xe4hc6hc7s Před 2 měsíci +3

    One of the best technical explanations of pin up bs pin down I have seen!

  • @ghettoshopper7509
    @ghettoshopper7509 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Love this, you are definitely one of the better people to explain and flesh out what you're teaching us. Thanks so much

  • @timmartin1354
    @timmartin1354 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Love the low flaring balls, I find most balls now are too aggressive for me so need to tame them down. Good to see the difference.

  • @thebigeasy8609
    @thebigeasy8609 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Good stuff EasyMikeBreezy! I really like my pin downs. Being a lefty and playing that typical lefty line pin down works really well for me. Thanks Mike for the explanation of the two. Preesh.

  • @danschweiger3700
    @danschweiger3700 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Great demonstration Mikey! Been watching yours and Darren’s tip videos for about 3 months and my average went from 185 to 200. Thanks for the help!

  • @melodicchronic5181
    @melodicchronic5181 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Very helpful. I'm new to bowling and I just had a new ball drilled and I noticed they drilled directly into the pin. I wondered what that meant. And everything online is "pin up vs pin down". No one talks about what directly into the pin does. So, Now I'm extra curious, why did they drill my ring finger into the pin and what does that do??

  • @bowlersoup
    @bowlersoup Před 2 měsíci +1

    Awesome timing on the vid. Been wanting to mess around with pin down layouts for a while now! 👋🏻

  • @dtsuinami
    @dtsuinami Před 2 měsíci

    okay much needed, i had no idea this related to the flare lines thank you Mikey

  • @lonnieschwartzkopf2185
    @lonnieschwartzkopf2185 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Just got my first personal ball from my brother in law and you, your brother , and Chris have helped me learn and figure out a lot over the past few months

  • @gysbritz2499
    @gysbritz2499 Před 2 měsíci

    Wow... ball and bag, can only dream

  • @Mathewtrades
    @Mathewtrades Před 2 měsíci +2

    thank you for the education on the pins! great content!

  • @giangdavis
    @giangdavis Před 2 měsíci

    love your explanations, keep it up

  • @CrAzYPiNoY_69
    @CrAzYPiNoY_69 Před 2 měsíci

    Another great ballspanation. Keep them coming 🔥🔥🔥

  • @THEKOBE7612
    @THEKOBE7612 Před 2 měsíci

    Excellently explained

  • @IronMaiden756
    @IronMaiden756 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This was SO good. Very easy to understand. Thanks!

  • @AyoMrB
    @AyoMrB Před 2 měsíci +1

    Let's go 30k! Love to see your channel growing. Seems like yesterday you were topping 20k.

  • @SteveSmith-mx1bu
    @SteveSmith-mx1bu Před 2 měsíci

    Your tips are fantastic thx u

  • @ericdelfosse6089
    @ericdelfosse6089 Před 2 měsíci

    Great explanation! Made so easy. Thank you

  • @BuzzsawBrent
    @BuzzsawBrent Před 2 měsíci

    Another awesome vid! Thanks Mikey!!😊

  • @darinbowling2740
    @darinbowling2740 Před 2 měsíci

    Great information!! Thanks for making this video!

  • @dredugan6893
    @dredugan6893 Před 2 měsíci

    Great vid. Gimme that ball and tote!!!

  • @williemorrison5006
    @williemorrison5006 Před 2 měsíci

    Excellent job

  • @tomharrison7346
    @tomharrison7346 Před 2 měsíci

    Fantastic explanation

  • @babygraceful
    @babygraceful Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for the video Mike! This helps me a lot. Keep these helpful videos coming please. 👏

  • @SteveJones-ul9ex
    @SteveJones-ul9ex Před 2 měsíci +1

    Very well stated and demonstrated so we could understand and make the decision for how we throw it. Keep up the good work!

  • @koreylo6082
    @koreylo6082 Před 2 měsíci

    Great Video. Congrats on 30k!!!

  • @user-fr2om7qf4u
    @user-fr2om7qf4u Před 2 měsíci

    Love your content. New to bowling. Very informative and helpful.

  • @jenniferboone-sz1lo
    @jenniferboone-sz1lo Před 2 měsíci

    Very helpful, Michael. You answered some questions I've been mulling for a while. Thanks a bunch.

  • @davidbeamon6726
    @davidbeamon6726 Před 2 měsíci

    another amazing video very informative

  • @markwilliamburright8160
    @markwilliamburright8160 Před 2 měsíci

    great explanation

  • @Chrisplayssports
    @Chrisplayssports Před 2 měsíci

    I was actually thinking of finally adding a pin down ball to the bag and this video sealed the deal! Thank you

  • @rc4361
    @rc4361 Před 2 měsíci

    Always very informative

  • @ninety9million928
    @ninety9million928 Před 2 měsíci

    Keep going with the dope content... Thank you!!!

  • @johnmaxwelliv8472
    @johnmaxwelliv8472 Před 2 měsíci

    Very informative, my favorite ball is pin down. It's my most predictable controllable ball. It leaves the fewest splits and most make able spares. I'm a right speed med-low Rev down and in bowler. I like stroking that "thang". This was extremely helpful. Thanks

  • @raycheljohnson304
    @raycheljohnson304 Před 2 měsíci

    Super helpful video, Mikey, thank you! My boyfriend and I have gotten into bowling this year, this was much needed. Surface change video next!!

  • @dalewilliams6440
    @dalewilliams6440 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for your tips. Now I'm learning what up and down pin are

  • @brandonsummersii9531
    @brandonsummersii9531 Před 2 měsíci

    Just started bowling and I love the timing of this video🎉🎉

  • @masondew-bw3sh
    @masondew-bw3sh Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks Mikey this really helps me when drilling a ball!

  • @AnotherNewBowler
    @AnotherNewBowler Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for the content! This pin-up/pin-down comparison answered a few questions I’ve been having

  • @benbugayong1577
    @benbugayong1577 Před 2 měsíci

    Great demo!

  • @txb4u
    @txb4u Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you for explaining the difference, it makes more sense to now.

  • @brianlevandowski3167
    @brianlevandowski3167 Před 2 měsíci

    Awesome bag!

  • @froop0330
    @froop0330 Před 2 měsíci

    Nice explanation Mikey!

  • @stevenjaragosky4633
    @stevenjaragosky4633 Před 2 měsíci

    Like the vid. Just started bowling and trying to learn.

  • @jasonwkamigaki2688
    @jasonwkamigaki2688 Před 2 měsíci

    That ball is so pretty! 🤩

  • @Dadpool_510
    @Dadpool_510 Před 2 měsíci

    My favorite videos by far.

  • @anthonydorazio9650
    @anthonydorazio9650 Před 2 měsíci

    Nice job Mike.👍

  • @michaelwoods2537
    @michaelwoods2537 Před 2 měsíci

    Wonderful content

  • @jennifergaudet3549
    @jennifergaudet3549 Před 2 měsíci

    Love your videos

  • @Cody7Lee
    @Cody7Lee Před 2 měsíci

    i like the dna coil and the new idol i can throw them both from my regular spot and move way right from the left side of the lane at the bowling ball demo

  • @mikeym4196
    @mikeym4196 Před 2 měsíci

    Definitely want to stop by your place when I come and do the pba lbc in IL

  • @CasualGamerPlays
    @CasualGamerPlays Před 2 měsíci

    Omg!! A bowling ball and tote giveaway! I need this, seeing that i'm getting back into bowling after 3 yrs away from it.
    Thanks for the video, i've asked so many pro shop managers the difference of reaction and movement of a bowling ball when its drilled pin up versus pin down. I'm also thinking about getting the Idol Optimum and Summit Peak.

  • @chungchu5426
    @chungchu5426 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hey Mike, where can i get the racers you are wearing?

  • @user-gt1wr1vh3i
    @user-gt1wr1vh3i Před 2 měsíci

    Another good one Mikey. For the next Ballsplanations video, can you talk about tape on the forearms and wrists? When to use them. That would be helpful.

  • @jasemook
    @jasemook Před 2 měsíci +1

    on tour, how often did you use different layouts? would it have been easier to keep ball changes as the only main difference in your arsenal? do some types of bowling balls benefit greater from pin up vs pin down layouts?
    Great vid Mikey!!!

  • @Jackal_Blitz
    @Jackal_Blitz Před 2 měsíci +1

    Probably also worth mentioning: The bigger the core, the greater the delta you'd see with a pin up/down comparison. Anything in the .020-.030 differential category is already flaring pretty tightly from the factory; going pin down on a small core can cause the ball to roll over its own oil and cause carrydown (yes, even if it's resin - nothing to do with urethane).

  • @mikedavis2895
    @mikedavis2895 Před 2 měsíci

    Keep the fire coming

  • @jeffs7773
    @jeffs7773 Před 2 měsíci

    Still planning on a visit for a couple new balls next month when I’m in Colombus. I’m really looking forward to some help from a professional

  • @minjoongkim3119
    @minjoongkim3119 Před 2 měsíci +1

    what would you recommend for different types of players between up and down on the house shot?

  • @blakecolcomb6826
    @blakecolcomb6826 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video Mike!! As a 2hander what layout does Chris have for pin under?

  • @TeamThrowItBetter
    @TeamThrowItBetter Před 2 měsíci

    That 5 1/4 with the 2-2 1/2 buffer is my absolute favorite layout. Had a ball with that pin down layout and I couldn't get a feel for it.

  • @MikeLoves2Bowl
    @MikeLoves2Bowl Před 2 měsíci

    I drilled my first pin down ball about a month ago. It's different since I'm use to throwing pin up. I've noticed my ball goes little longer but more skid flip in the back end. I'm throwing the bw3.0

  • @tenzz2428
    @tenzz2428 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Love the content! Can you do a video explaining what ball is good for high rev low speed players! 400+ revs 14.5 mph.

    • @umbra9273
      @umbra9273 Před 2 měsíci

      Is that 14mph at the break point?

    • @tenzz2428
      @tenzz2428 Před 2 měsíci

      @@umbra927315-15.5 off hand and maybe 14 by break point

  • @tomcasanover736
    @tomcasanover736 Před 2 měsíci

    I think that ball is going to be amazing

  • @edcgearpocketknife
    @edcgearpocketknife Před 2 měsíci

    Good video

  • @phieaglesbw
    @phieaglesbw Před 2 měsíci

    I bowl 3 nights a week and have 3 balls and a 2 ball bag. I absolutely love it

  • @jaijieha
    @jaijieha Před 2 měsíci

    Hi Mike, I wonder if it's the same concept for two handed bowlers as well?

  • @umbra9273
    @umbra9273 Před 2 měsíci

    What layout system did you use?

  • @cameronwieland7945
    @cameronwieland7945 Před 2 měsíci

    I have two of the OG Zen's one pin-up and one pin-down. I get mixed answers as to what surfaces match better with both. Should the pin-up have more surface on it to accentuate the earlier motion and polish the pin-down to do the same (accentuate later motion)? Or polish the pin-up and put surface on the pin-down (which may bring them to be too similar areas of the bag)?

  • @SoloBlessed
    @SoloBlessed Před 2 měsíci

    Before I watch does this matter for 2 handlers ?

  • @RitchieLeong
    @RitchieLeong Před 2 měsíci

    Hi Mikey, got a question. Legality aside, can I have a one-hander layout on my bowl while bowling two handed? Does it adversely affect the ball motion in any way? Cheers!

  • @louiskuamoo
    @louiskuamoo Před 2 měsíci

    Good job Mike! So pin down, the ball rolls longer than hooks? Watching you throw the balls, the pin down was a tighter line than pin up? Aloha

  • @jeffwatzig2213
    @jeffwatzig2213 Před 2 měsíci

    Good info MT, what about doing a short pin vs long pin comparison?

  • @pinslayerx
    @pinslayerx Před 2 měsíci

    Should I do a pin up and pin down on the same ball, or should I change to a weaker or stronger ball, if I want to have both in the same bag?

  • @greggas1
    @greggas1 Před 2 měsíci

    Every time my team bowls on the pair you do a video on, I bowl like crap. What are you doing to the lanes?🤣🤣

  • @daviddeiss7907
    @daviddeiss7907 Před 2 měsíci

    Hi mike, so I'm a low rev low speed bowler and I play league in a house that is medium to medium dry and I have been taking strong asymmetrical balls and drilling them short pin. After watching this video I'm kinda interested in drilling one pin down, how would a pin down layout look compared to a short pin layout? what can I expect to see? Will the pin down hook less or more and will it change the shape of the ball motion? I need to know, thanks for the video.

  • @Cazyman24
    @Cazyman24 Před 2 měsíci +1

    you used the word truncating the core with the pin in the palm layout as well. what's the difference in numbers and motion when comparing pin down and pin in the palm?

  • @jeremyfranklin1510
    @jeremyfranklin1510 Před 2 měsíci

    I'd like to see Chris Via do a pin-up and pin-down video for the 2 handers and no thumb bowlers and how the RG and differential numbers differ from a one handed bowler.

  • @ripvanrevs
    @ripvanrevs Před 2 měsíci

    I've bought so many balls lately, I'm ready for another 3 ball tote!

  • @AverageLeagueHack
    @AverageLeagueHack Před 2 měsíci

    Hello Mikey. Why do I track so high I'm damn near a full roller?

  • @GCare100
    @GCare100 Před měsícem

    I’ve been using pin up for 10 years and I’m about to try pin down tomorrow. I feel like because I am an “outside line. Bowler” I feel that pin down is going to be better for me

  • @abrianmontoya336
    @abrianmontoya336 Před 2 měsíci

    What about pin through the ring finger?

  • @wumj1606
    @wumj1606 Před 2 měsíci

    Ready for that giveaway 😍🥜

  • @zackoakes6382
    @zackoakes6382 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Let’s go 30K

  • @jamesguido9877
    @jamesguido9877 Před 2 měsíci

    What do you mean by house shot?

  • @thenatural3986
    @thenatural3986 Před 2 měsíci

    🔥

  • @clintonkahler2082
    @clintonkahler2082 Před 2 měsíci

    Hey Mikey...so if you learn your layouts...doesn't that determine if it's pin up or pin down anyways??? for example if I know my dual angle layout and give it to my pro shop guy ...would the ball just come back pin up or pin down based on what I gave him??? Thanks

    • @tvbowlingsupply
      @tvbowlingsupply  Před 2 měsíci

      I’d hope if I gave a pso my 2 1/2 buffer it’d come back pin up everytime

    • @clintonkahler2082
      @clintonkahler2082 Před 2 měsíci

      so I think that's your way of saying "YES" ??? lol sorry i just dont know drilling yet...only learned layouts recently@@tvbowlingsupply

  • @lpamaran22
    @lpamaran22 Před 2 měsíci

    Only if the Pro shop was in San Diego haha

  • @Dainslaif
    @Dainslaif Před 2 měsíci

    Since a pin down layout tends to be a slower/smoother arc and give you less overall board coverage, would it make sense to switch from pin up to pin down when the lanes start to get fried and you can't keep anything right of the headpin?

  • @jbivens3
    @jbivens3 Před 2 měsíci

    Hook up a homeowner! Holiday and palace all day!

  • @Agent510
    @Agent510 Před 2 měsíci

    Happy birthday to Chris!

  • @keithh.5217
    @keithh.5217 Před 2 měsíci

    Newbie question: Is the pin the pink dot or pink X?

  • @2854Navman
    @2854Navman Před 2 měsíci

    C'mon 30K!!!

  • @garla5851
    @garla5851 Před 2 měsíci +1

    6:51 The replay is a different shot , where is the 10 pin in the replay ??

  • @pocketrocket313
    @pocketrocket313 Před 2 měsíci

    I am looking forward to winning the ball and tote.

  • @Beamtron
    @Beamtron Před 2 měsíci

  • @sourdoughprince
    @sourdoughprince Před 2 měsíci

    I literally just taught myself the storm VLS system 🤦‍♂️ i should just always wait for Mikey to post a video, would have made it a lot easier lol

  • @iwilrage
    @iwilrage Před 2 měsíci

    I need a ball!